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[00:01:13] Speaker B: Hey everybody. Welcome back to another episode of Rock Roulette Podcast. That's right, the crazy ass podcast that took over 1300 albums, stuck them in a list, stuck them in a wheel. And typically every other week we spin the wheel. She picks a record for us and we go through a track by track and we talk about the music, the lyrics, the production, the melody and the arrangement and we just rate it again just based on personal opinions. Just a bunch of friends who love music, they wanted to do a podcast. Something fancy here. And again, we always want to thank anybody who's listening. Spread the word. If you like what you hear, you know, drop us a note. Hey, here's what I like, here's what I don't like. Things you can change, things you can keep. Give us some songs for the, for the Wheel, the new Wheel. Give us some albums, maybe that we, you may say something. And we don't even have it in the model wheel. Even though we have 1000 over 1300 albums, there might be stuff that's not there. So give us a holler. We are back as a duo again. We have Mark. Oh, hi Mark.
[00:02:10] Speaker A: What's up guys?
[00:02:11] Speaker B: And I'm sad.
So last week the Wheel picked Jailbreak by Thin Lizzy, which I think is a seminal album by them. And again, Mark and I both said, a band that we've heard so much about but don't really know other than a couple of hits here and there, so which we haven't even gotten to yet because it's not on the first side, but I think we kind of agreed that warriors, which was where the first site ended, was the best song. I think when I hear people talk about Thin Lizzy and the greatness of Thin Lizzy, it's something like that that I think of just a seminal straight up classic rock song from beginning to end. You got the loud solo. The production was pretty good. Jailbreak wasn't Bad either, in my opinion, a little bit up that stream. But I know the ones in between, to me, were a little bit more forgetful, I think. What do you think, Juan?
[00:03:04] Speaker A: For me, if I want to listen to Thin Lizzie, I think it would be Jailbreak. Warrior Boys are backing down Emerald for me. That's what I think it is. But again, I know very little about Thin Lizzy besides the hit stuff. It was good. I mean, even the stuff in the middle, you know, there was some interesting things in there, but I think those songs are kind of going to be the cohesive things in here. And I don't know what the other two songs on the second side are going to be like. I'm just interested in hearing this, and I would like to get some more Thin Lizzy later on to see if this is what they do all the time. But, yeah, it was good.
[00:03:33] Speaker B: Yeah. I mean, obviously, since we don't know what the Wheel picks, we don't. We fall sometimes in the category of, hey, this is their third, fourth album. So we don't know what's around it. Just like when we got Judas Priest, their first album, and obviously we know what they sounded like later on. And there's a little bit of hints here and there of, I think, of some of that stuff. Again, someone who comes into it and listens to that and doesn't know anything is like, wait, what? So. But, yeah, that's why it's interesting, spinning the Wheel, because you never know. So I'm interested to see what goes on beyond the second side, beyond the major hit. And the song that I don't Remember, that was covered by someone who's been on the show a couple of times already. But before we do that, we get to do another spin on the baby wheel, and we get to do our new bed section.
In a world where new music is not easy to find.
[00:04:26] Speaker C: Welcome to New Bets.
[00:04:34] Speaker A: Are you ready for the Wheel? Can you see it?
[00:04:36] Speaker B: I'm. I'm ready. Yeah, I do see it.
[00:04:38] Speaker A: Here we go.
[00:04:52] Speaker B: Dream Evil. The Tyrant Dies at Dawn. I think this is power metal. I'm almost positive. Unless I stand corrected, obviously. Dream Evil. Dream Evil, the name of a DO album. I'm pretty sure I've heard these guys before, and I kind of like some of the stuff that I've heard, but it's been a while, too.
[00:05:09] Speaker A: Yeah, I have no idea. So I'm curious. All right, so here we go. This is Dream. The Tyrant Dies at dawn.
[00:05:16] Speaker C: We sail across the mighty sea which hunts together we will kill our enemy the tyrants will be dead through rain and storm we carry on Nothing can stop us now we are afield we make them kneel for us Their fate is sealed A king they killed Nothing can save them now Their heads with roll and bodies with being Pa.
[00:06:19] Speaker B: We.
[00:06:20] Speaker C: Sail across the mighty sea which cost to Gaeta dawn we will kill our enemy the tyrant dies they dawn we will fight we will fight, they will die Bring honor to our king Our swords will strike in harmony the tyrants will be dead when reaching land with swords in hand we ride like the father storm we ride through the night Only gathered by moon's light Their castle is near Battle fear We strike when they least expect their blood where we ran and know we'll be dead tonight we sail across the mighty sea We.
We will kill our enemy the tyrant dies Their doors We will fight. We will fight they will die Bring armor to our king Our swords will strike in harmony the tyrants will be dead at dawn Let us go.
We sail across the mighty sea which to gain a drone we will kill our enemy the tyrant dies their doom we will fight. We will fight they will die Bring another two king Our swords will strike in harmony the tyrants will be dead at dawn.
[00:09:05] Speaker B: So you go first.
[00:09:08] Speaker A: It's so old school.
[00:09:11] Speaker B: That's power metal.
[00:09:12] Speaker A: It's power metal. It's. The theme is like, you know, like Dungeons and Dragons kind of theme. Like stuff that Early Dio did and stuff. And this shredded guitar all over the place. Sweet picking. And it's such a throwback thing. It's. No, not so funny.
[00:09:31] Speaker B: I think it's fun. You know what I mean?
Do I think it's the greatest song? No, it's all right. But I just. I mean, again, it's. It's just fun hearing stuff like this, especially if you don't listen to it after a while.
[00:09:45] Speaker A: No, yeah, I know. It was just. It had every cliche power metal thing that you could have. The one cool part was that little double time thing, that halftime thing in the verse. Second verse. That was cool.
[00:09:56] Speaker B: Yeah, they're from Sweden. Switches.
[00:09:59] Speaker A: Yeah. I can almost tell by the vocal. You could hear a little bit of an accent thing going on. I mean. But they've been around since 99, though.
[00:10:08] Speaker B: Yeah, no, I've definitely heard them before in my. In my commutes of listening to. Trying to listen to as much as I can. I remember listening to something by them thinking, oh, it's not bad. I mean, straight up power metal. But it's fun, you know?
[00:10:21] Speaker A: Yeah. No, that was super fun. Cool. I like that.
[00:10:24] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:10:24] Speaker A: Awesome. All righty. Here we go.
[00:10:27] Speaker B: In a world where new music is.
[00:10:31] Speaker C: Not easy to find, welcome to new bets.
[00:10:43] Speaker A: Now comes the big mama of everything.
[00:10:45] Speaker B: Yeah. Let's see what, what side two holds for us.
[00:10:49] Speaker A: Well, side two, it starts off with the biggest song of their career. Top 10. Let me go into this thing. If they say anything about Boys Are Back in town, it's number 272 on Rolling Stones 2021 edition of the 500 Greatest Songs of All Time.
[00:11:05] Speaker B: Nice halfway. That's not bad.
[00:11:06] Speaker A: It sold 600,000 copies in the United Kingdom. It was number one in Ireland, number eight in Canada, number eight in the UK, and number 12 in the US Billboard Hot 100.
[00:11:19] Speaker B: This is a song that I bet you I don't know how many people probably know and don't even know who sings it. It's just, you know what I mean? If you're not, let's say, a rock fan, but you kind of, you know what I mean? Like, you'll know the song. Like, yeah, the Boys are Back in Town. Like, it's very accessible, I think. And whether people even know who it.
[00:11:38] Speaker A: Is, they may not. Yeah, I think you're right. Here we go. The boys are back in town.
[00:12:07] Speaker C: Guess who just got back today Them wild eyed voice that had been away haven't changed had much to say but man, I still think them cats are crazy they were asking if you were around how you was where you could be found Told them you were living downtown Driving all the old men quizzing the boys are back in town the boys are back in town.
[00:12:36] Speaker B: I said the.
[00:12:37] Speaker C: Boys are back in town the boys are back in town the boys are back in town Boys are back in town Boys are back in town Boys are back in town.
[00:13:01] Speaker B: So here's what I think. I think that what they were trying to do on the first side when they were going for the hit failed in comparison to this. I felt, I feel like this is more honest a song where those other ones weren't as much maybe. And again, we don't have a lot to compare it to. But if I'm going, let's say this was their only album. And I'd say, okay, he was going for a hit. For the other song, I'd be like, okay, but why didn't you do it like this way kind of. I mean, this just sticks in your head. The production, I think overall is better. The little guitar lines are better. The other thing obviously I will mention again is that it's very spring Steeny. And to even prove that point, if you think about these lyrics, couldn't you even picture Jon Bon Jovi singing these lyrics or doing this song, in a sense, when we talk about his similarity. Right. To some of the influence from Springsteen.
[00:13:51] Speaker A: Yeah. I'm surprised that Bon Jovi never covered this song.
[00:13:54] Speaker B: Oh, they may have. They probably did somewhere. I'm surprised we never did this song.
[00:13:59] Speaker A: This is really true.
[00:14:00] Speaker B: We've never done this. Maybe it was too obvious. We just figured people maybe didn't want to hear it. I don't know.
[00:14:06] Speaker A: Maybe.
[00:14:07] Speaker B: But it would have fun song to do.
[00:14:09] Speaker A: The thing is, is that guitar line that comes after the chorus is such a memorable thing. It's as memorable as, like, Hotel California thing. You know, the dual guitar in that. It's just as. It's just as memorable. Like, it's so catchy and so perfect. It's almost perfect.
[00:14:26] Speaker B: It's just as memorable as the chorus.
[00:14:28] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:14:29] Speaker B: And I mean, I think the melody is. Again, he's doing kind of that speaky singing thing, but it just. It works better here, you know, the chorus is all repetition. Fine. Yeah. I mean, again. And I almost forgot about that.
I'm like, wait.
[00:14:43] Speaker A: Oh, yeah.
[00:14:44] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:14:46] Speaker A: This to me, takes all the good stuff from Jailbreak and the warriors and puts it together into one song. That's really, really good.
[00:14:53] Speaker B: It's a really good song.
[00:14:54] Speaker A: All the good things I'd like from both of those things.
[00:14:56] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:14:57] Speaker A: All right, so first one, Guess who just got back today those wild eyed boys that been away haven't changed haven't had much to say but, man, I still think them cats are crazy they were asking if you were around how you was where you could be found Told them you were living downtown Driving all the old men crazy the boys are back in town over and over but this, because it does do a story, but it does a story in the best way to know when you wrote this song. Right. That this had to be something. This is. No way. When you recorded this, they recorded this and they came out. This has got to be a big fucking hit. I mean, you would think someone had to heard that and went, oh, we finally got what we wanted out of that. I mean, it's like you said, it's funny. I wonder if they. Were they trying to write a hit song for this? I'm trying to think. That doesn't really say here.
[00:15:44] Speaker B: I don't.
[00:15:44] Speaker A: I don't.
[00:15:45] Speaker B: I don't even know if they.
[00:15:46] Speaker A: Yeah, it's pretty cool. Here we go.
[00:15:48] Speaker C: That chick that used to dance a lot. Every night she'd be on the floor shaking what she'd got. Man, when I tell you she was cool, she was red hot. I mean, she was steamer.
And that time over at Johnny's place, well, this chick got up and she slapped Johnny's face. Man, we just fell about the place. If that chick don't want to know, forget her.
The boys are back in town the boys are back in town I said the boys are back in town the boys are back in town the boys are back in town Boys are back in town Boys are back in town Boys are back in town.
[00:16:31] Speaker A: I mean, there's nothing to say the boys are back in town yeah, I never really noticed that. The stereo thing, they do one on one side and then on the other side.
[00:16:41] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, that is. That's cool too, man. It's very cool.
[00:16:45] Speaker A: It's super cool. I wanted to stop it before we got into the next part. But everything is good about the song is his vocal is good, his melody is good. Yeah, the lyrics are good because the story that they tell, Just like the Bon Jovi stuff, Just like the Bruce Springsteen stuff. The popular things. You can see what exactly they're trying to do. They paint this paints a very good picture.
[00:17:03] Speaker B: Yeah. Character names and situations.
[00:17:06] Speaker A: Verse two is. You know that chick that used to dance a lot? Every night she'd be on the floor shaking what she's got. Man, I tell you, when she was cool, she was red hot. I mean, she was steaming.
And at that time over at Johnny's place, well, this chick got up and she slapped Johnny's face. Man, we just fell about the place. If that chick don't want to know, forget her Boys are back in town. And then we get to the cool guitar riff again, which is super duper memorable.
[00:17:30] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:17:48] Speaker C: Spread the word around.
Yes, Friday night they'll be dressed to kill down at Dino's Bar and grill the drink will flow and blood will spill and if the boys want to fight you better let em set you box in the corner Blasting out my favorite songs the nights are getting warmer it won't be long Won't be long till summer comes now that the boys are here again the boys are back in town the boys are back in town the boys are back in town the boys are back in town the boys are back in town the boys are back in town Spread the word around the boys are back in town the boys are back in town Boys are back, the boys are back Dam.
[00:19:58] Speaker B: I actually forgot about that other little guitar part. Too.
But I liked it, too.
[00:20:06] Speaker A: Yep. There's nothing about this song that is bad. There's a bridge that says, spread the word around. Guess who's back in town. You spread the word around. And then verse three is Friday night They'll be dressed to kill down at Dino's Bar and Grill the drink will flow and blood will spill if the boys want to fight, you better let them that jukebox in the corner blasting out my favorite song. The nights are getting warmer it won't be long Won't be long till summer comes now that the boys are here again in chorus.
And then the outro is, the boys are back in town again Been hanging down at Dino's the boys are back in town again Smart. They repeat that riff that's super duper catchy. I don't know what else to say about this.
I'm very on the. On the thing of doing nines or tens all across. I don't know if I want nines all across or tens all across. It could almost be tens all across.
[00:20:56] Speaker B: I don't know.
[00:20:57] Speaker A: Could be. There's nothing wrong with the song. All the little pieces they do, even at the beginning where they. There's that little guitar bass thing that goes together while they're doing the riff is super cool. The lyrics are super cool. The melody is cool. There's no bad parts here that you can go, oh, they should have changed that. I don't know.
[00:21:11] Speaker B: Do you want to go first? Then?
[00:21:12] Speaker A: I think I have no choice to tend this across. There's nothing here I can say is wrong with this. And this might be the first time I get to use this quintuple 10.
[00:21:21] Speaker C: The best of the best.
[00:21:24] Speaker B: Nice. That's like, in a time. It sounds like that guy.
[00:21:28] Speaker A: It's the same guy.
[00:21:29] Speaker B: He was gonna say, in a time, in a world.
[00:21:31] Speaker A: I don't know what else to say. I mean, the song is great when you don't even know who sings a song. Like you said, people don't know even who sings a song, but they hear the guitar riff or they hear the chorus, and everybody knows this. To me, that kind of almost transcends. I'm giving it tens, but it's the best song ever. No, but on this album, this thing stands head and shoulders above everything else, pretty much. How much better could you get here? I don't even know. That's my opinion, anyway.
[00:21:54] Speaker B: It's like, well, this one goes to 11, pretty much.
[00:21:58] Speaker A: If I could do 11, I'd do 11.
[00:22:00] Speaker B: I'm gonna be slightly Lower. Don't get upset. Just slightly lower.
[00:22:03] Speaker A: Really? How slightly?
[00:22:06] Speaker B: Just slightly. I'm gonna say again, I may get killed for this, but seven on the lyrics.
[00:22:11] Speaker A: Oh, my God.
[00:22:11] Speaker B: And nines on the rest.
[00:22:13] Speaker A: Really? The lyrics, seven.
[00:22:15] Speaker B: They're okay. I mean, they're fine. I know for what it is. It's. It's cool. I'm just saying, you know, a couple of things here and there. I don't know that I can go higher. I was gonna do eight, but I'm like, yeah, eight is too low. It's got to be at least nine, because, I mean, even hearing it now, I've heard this song 15 billion times, but it's been a while. And it was, like, nice to hear it again.
[00:22:33] Speaker A: It's a great song.
[00:22:34] Speaker B: But, yeah, I mean, it's. It's a great rock song. You know what I mean? You just can't, I think. I know it's people that probably can't stand this song. And I'm not talking about. Because they've heard it a million times. I just don't like it. They don't like it.
[00:22:45] Speaker A: And there are people who don't like it because they've heard it a million times.
[00:22:49] Speaker B: But, yeah, I just think that, again, it's just a song that's out there. It's in the public domain as a massive song and for a good reason.
[00:22:59] Speaker A: Now the next song is Fight or Fall. How do you follow this song? This almost should be the last song, Right?
[00:23:06] Speaker B: Well, you know what? Think about this, right? From a CD standpoint, right before this, you have warriors, which we said was the best song, the first side. And you're probably like, okay, well, what's next? Let's say you never heard it before. And then you get to this and like, okay, it's not the same type of song, but damn, it's a good song.
[00:23:24] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:23:25] Speaker B: So we'll see. Maybe the second side is ult strong.
[00:23:27] Speaker A: It makes more sense on the vinyl side because that. This would be the start of side, too, right?
[00:23:31] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:23:31] Speaker A: And you're coming strong out of the gate on side, too.
[00:23:34] Speaker B: Yep. And you're ending the first side really strong as well.
[00:23:36] Speaker A: Y. So that's when sequencing meant a lot.
[00:23:38] Speaker B: Right.
[00:23:38] Speaker A: Because they flipped it over and then the second side comes on. It didn't mean as much on the CD time. It meant some on tape, too, because it would be the same, probably.
[00:23:46] Speaker B: Yep.
[00:23:47] Speaker A: When CDs came out, didn't really matter as much because it was just all together.
[00:23:50] Speaker B: Yeah. You had to think about a different type of sequencing.
[00:23:53] Speaker A: Oh, 100%. It's funny, I was. I forget what I was listening to. I was playing some records last week because I have a bunch of vinyl stuff and I was. I think I was playing Boston's first album. Like, you forget how short it is. Like you have to flip over what songs are where just because, you know, you don't really listen to it like that anymore. It's a different experience than listening to it either streaming or on CDs.
[00:24:12] Speaker B: Yep.
[00:24:13] Speaker A: So here we go. So this is fight or fall.
[00:24:32] Speaker C: Brothers Here I stand Spread my wings and be command God, he just looked laughed the boy become a man after all this time I tell myself that I not just wasting time oh, you know, I'm not that weird, man.
[00:25:12] Speaker B: I mean, listen, I'm not going to compare it to this. Two songs before. He does have a similar. I noticed inflection when he sings. I feel the way he couples things, the lines and everything. He definitely has his own little thing going. So I don't know what this is. It's just kind of like a ballady mid temple melody thing. What do you think?
[00:25:32] Speaker A: Kind of a little yacht rocky. Yeah, sort of.
[00:25:34] Speaker B: I hung it out there, man. But I was going through, for whatever reason, I was on Amazon and I was looking for playlists. I was like, you know what? Let me. Let me throw up a yacht rock playlist. Tell you, man, it's a lot of good shit there. A lot of good stuff.
[00:25:48] Speaker A: Yeah, this is more in that easy listening, you know, lighter side of rock.
[00:25:53] Speaker B: Yeah, but there's some good stuff, you know, but it's still kind of got a little bit of that rock tinge, you know, Not a lot. I mean, not heavy, obviously, but still got a little bit of, you know, there's some guitar and there's some. There's a lot of good songs, man, on that list.
[00:26:06] Speaker A: 100. All right, so verse one is brothers, here I stand Spread my wings and take command the sky he justly planned the boy became a man and of course is. After all this time I tell myself that I'm not just wasting time oh, you know I'm not that way inclined so I haven't heard the name of the song yet. I don't know if we will. Definitely different than the last song. Again, it's a hard song to follow.
[00:26:31] Speaker B: But it's different than the slower stuff on the first side too, though. I think it sounds more like something that would be on this record when you listen to the last song and the one before it and the first one I kind of feel if that makes any sense.
[00:26:45] Speaker A: So you think that those three in the middle are more outliers than this is?
[00:26:49] Speaker B: Yeah. I mean, again, I listen. Are they that much different than Boys Are Back in Town? The vein of them? I don't think so. I just think that Boys are back in Town. I'm. Again, I don't know what order they wrote this album in. Was what those songs wanted to be but weren't, even though it's by the same band on the same album. To me, again, like, I felt Boys Are Back in Town was. Was more natural to them.
[00:27:13] Speaker A: I can see that. Yeah. No, I got you. All right, let's continue. Here we go.
[00:27:24] Speaker C: But as if you hear Raise your flags and make it clear There is more to fear if we wait for another year after all this time I tell myself I tell myself, tell myself, tell myself, tell myself, tell myself that I just passing through town.
[00:28:14] Speaker B: Solo Loud.
[00:28:17] Speaker A: Loud. Yeah. Again, I'm gonna read the verse. Brothers, if you hear Raise your flags and make it clear there's more to fear if we wait for another year and then he did the. After all this time I tell him myself I tell him myself that was interesting across the stereo thing.
[00:28:33] Speaker B: I like that. Yeah, I like that, actually.
[00:28:35] Speaker A: Yeah. I thought that was pretty cool, guy. He drugged that out a little bit differently.
[00:28:39] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:28:40] Speaker A: I tell myself that I'm just passing through time it's pretty cool.
It's mellow.
[00:28:46] Speaker B: Yeah. To me, that's like a headphone song.
[00:28:49] Speaker A: Oh. 100%.
[00:28:50] Speaker B: You know what I mean? Like, you kind of put it back, right? Like just kind of kick back and listen to it.
[00:28:54] Speaker A: Well, let's see. See what he does solo wise. I'm hoping for something cool here. Here we go.
[00:29:16] Speaker C: After all this town I tell myself that I not just wasting time oh, you know, I got that weird back.
[00:29:47] Speaker B: I like. I mean, I like that. I like that thing at the end, too, kind of. Yeah.
[00:29:51] Speaker A: He did that same thing where he went across. Across the chorus.
I do think it's a little loud, though.
[00:29:57] Speaker B: Yeah, I guess. You know, they said, hey, let's make the solos loud.
[00:30:03] Speaker A: I got. I noticed though, there's on the. On the vocals, there's a little bit of reverb on the guitar. It's not as dry. Some of the stuff earlier was super dry. And this. They made it a little space here because they. Maybe they wanted that sound to happen.
[00:30:15] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:30:15] Speaker A: Yeah, it was cool.
[00:30:16] Speaker B: Yeah. I'm kind of digging this.
[00:30:18] Speaker A: Here we go.
[00:30:28] Speaker C: All brothers, brothers hear the call after all this time I Tell myself that I am not just western town oh, you know I'm not that reinclined Brother, brother, brother, brother, brother, brother, brother, brother, brother, brother what you want?
Brother, brother, brothers we gotta fight for one another Brother, brother, brother, brother.
[00:31:25] Speaker B: I like that outro. I thought it was kind of loud.
[00:31:28] Speaker A: Yeah, the brother brother part could have been a little lower.
[00:31:30] Speaker B: You know who it reminded me of? What's his name?
The dude from King's X. I wonder.
[00:31:36] Speaker A: If that's an influence on him or Phil Line's an influence on him. It's very possible. They're both singers. They both play bass. I wonder if it was. Yeah, so verse three is brothers fight or fall it's man for man and one for all no one can, no one no more can we crawl Brothers, brothers, hear the call Obviously the outro. Brother, brother, brother, brother, brother Fight or fall. So fight or fall is in there, just not in the place you would think, which I appreciate.
[00:32:05] Speaker B: I like that too.
[00:32:06] Speaker A: Okay, I'm gonna say I like the lyrics. I'm gonna say seven of the lyrics. I like the melody. I'm going to say seven. I'm gonna still do seven. On the musicianship arrangement, I'm gonna give it a six. Only because the guitar solo is loud again. Otherwise it was fine. And production, I'm gonna give it a six. I probably could go a little bit lower. I don't know what happens between the Boys are Back in town and this. But obviously they're not doing the same thing as far as production wise on this as they did on that. So it's interesting how that changes.
What do you think?
[00:32:38] Speaker B: I'm gonna say six on the lyrics? Actually, they're okay, but I think I'm gonna go sevens on the other stuff. I like the melody, I like the music. I was okay with the production. Yeah. Like it was loud and the brother brother was loud. And it didn't bother me as much. I mean, I'll be honest with you, the brother brother bothered me more than the solo, believe it or not. Because I just like the sound of the solo, I guess because of the sound of guitar. And that other one, when it came in loud, it was very trebly. So that hits you even harder. But this was a little bit mellower, so it's kind of mellow loud.
I like this. I wasn't when it first started, I'm like, eh. But the more went on, the more I liked it. I think it's a pretty good song. I mean, I think side's two for two.
[00:33:21] Speaker A: Alrighty. So the next one is called Cowboy Song.
[00:33:25] Speaker C: I am just a cowboy Lonesome on.
[00:33:31] Speaker B: The trail.
[00:33:35] Speaker C: The starry night, the campfire.
[00:33:39] Speaker B: Light.
[00:33:45] Speaker C: The coyote call and the howling wind's wheel so I'll ride out to the old sundown I am just a cowboy Lonesome on the trail Lord, I'm just thinking about a certain female.
The nights we're spent together riding on the range look at Get Back.
It seems to spring.
Roll me over and turn me around Let me keep spinning till I hit the ground Roll me over and let me go right near the rodeo.
[00:35:06] Speaker B: I was so he rides on the rodeo. Not a steel horse, I bet you. To cowboys that hear these songs and like, why try and do my job?
[00:35:18] Speaker A: Yeah, it's funny. You're not cowboys.
[00:35:21] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah, it's not bad. There's a similarity in the. In the. A little bit to the boys are back in town. If you. I think the melody to it, not completely, but a little bit.
But again, I think it's just like I mentioned before. The way he couples things, I think is just a thing that he has. What do you think?
[00:35:45] Speaker A: The second verse definitely is more boy's back in 10. I think it flows better like the first verse. There's that big gap between the first two lines and the second two lines, which I don't particularly like. I felt like it needed to go. Like in the second one. It went right away. Yes, but they had a big pause in that first one. I didn't particularly like that too much.
[00:36:05] Speaker B: Yeah, I'm thinking that was for effect. You know what I mean? Kind of like you think about the cowboy strumming the guitar right around the fire after the day's work and whatever.
[00:36:15] Speaker A: I guess.
[00:36:16] Speaker B: I don't know.
[00:36:17] Speaker A: Yeah, I just didn't like that part. I just. I would rather it just continued and not have the big pause. So the words are, I'm just a cowboy Lonesome on the trail A starry night, a campfire light the coyote call the howling windswell so I ride out to the old Sundance down Verse two. I'm just a cowboy Lonesome on the trail Lord, I'm just thinking about a certain female. The nights we spent together riding on the range Looking back, it seems so strange. And then the chorus is, roll me over and turn me around Let me keep spinning till I hit the ground Roll me over and let me go Riding in the rodeo. You know, it's straightforward. It's talking about exactly what it is. I don't think there's any hidden meaning in this at all.
[00:36:55] Speaker B: I Don't think so either.
[00:36:56] Speaker A: No. But what is definitely, like, the second verse is definitely in the vein of the Boys Are Back Attack. Even the guitar playing behind, which I kind of like. I like when they do that. So, yeah, I like it.
[00:37:06] Speaker B: I'm not crazy about the chorus, though. I like the first. I wasn't crazy about the chorus, though. But who knows? I mean, maybe go through it again.
[00:37:13] Speaker A: Maybe it'll kind of grow on us as it goes along. Maybe. I don't know. Yeah, we'll see. All right, here we go.
[00:37:19] Speaker C: I was took in Texas I did not know her name Lord Obvious Southern girls they seem the same down below the border in a town in Mexico I got my job busting Bronx for the rodeo Roll me over and turn me around Let me keep spinning till I hit the ground Roll.
[00:38:46] Speaker B: That solo, especially the beginning part, reminds me so much of another solo. I can't think of what it is like. I'd have to re. Listen to it, but it just reminded me of something, even the way it's put together.
But, I mean, I thought it was good. It fit the song. I mean, yeah, it was loud again.
[00:39:02] Speaker A: But it was very good for the song. I think it was very well done. I liked the song a lot. I thought it was good. It didn't, like, really hiccup. And he was going in the right direction. He ended it up, up, started it good. Had a good middle and end. So I kind of like that. I didn't think it was bad.
[00:39:19] Speaker B: No, no, I liked it. It just reminded me of something. But, no, I thought it was. It was definitely really good for the song and good overall.
[00:39:26] Speaker A: Yeah, the chorus is starting to grow on me a little bit.
[00:39:29] Speaker B: Yeah, I gotta listen to it again because I do like the verse.
It's not bad, though, the chorus, you know what I mean? It's not like, oh, they get to the chord, it's like, no, it's good.
[00:39:39] Speaker A: All right, so verse three is, I took in Texas I was took in Texas I didn't know her name Lord all these Southern girls Seem the same down below the border in a town in Mexico I got my jobs busting Bronx for the rodeo Roll me over and turn me around Let me keep spinning till I hit the ground Roll me over and let me go Running flea with the buffalo Here I go. And then the solo comes. And now I think we're gonna. It's gonna like it very low now.
[00:40:10] Speaker C: Roll me over and I'll turn around and I'll move my fingers up and down, up and down it's okay, amigo Just let me go right near the rodeo Let me keep spinning till I hit the ground Roll me over and let me go right near the rodeo Roll me over and set me free the cowboys love is the laugh for me.
[00:42:14] Speaker B: Cha cha cha.
[00:42:16] Speaker A: It needed a fade.
[00:42:18] Speaker B: Yeah. I didn't like that ending. Or even. Even if not a fade, kind of like the symbol, you know what I mean?
Something like that. It's so fun. I was gonna say it's so funny. Right. I feel like either the guitar player gets no solo or he gets long solos.
Like, he definitely gets a lot of room when he gets room.
[00:42:42] Speaker A: Yeah. And they're in weird places, though.
[00:42:44] Speaker B: Yeah. But you know what, though? I liked it, though. I like that arrangement. What they did with this, I thought it was, like. To me, I thought it was interesting. Me, personally, I thought that was going to be an outro solo. But it wasn't. You know what I mean?
[00:42:58] Speaker A: No, I know. I have question about this lyric, though, that I'm not sure what the hell's happening here.
Roll me over and I'll turn around and I'll move my fingers up and down, up and down. What the is that supposed to mean?
Are we not in the rodeo anymore?
[00:43:14] Speaker B: Exactly.
[00:43:16] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:43:17] Speaker B: I'll move my fingers up and down, up and down.
[00:43:20] Speaker A: I'm just confused.
[00:43:21] Speaker B: I don't know about rodeos. I mean, does that something they're doing rodeos?
[00:43:26] Speaker A: I don't know.
[00:43:27] Speaker B: I don't know.
Maybe he's a rodeo clown. I mean, I'm saying if there's no.
No other meaning.
[00:43:36] Speaker A: I don't know. I'm confused. Yeah, because you talked about a girl before this. So is this about the girl here? This little. Just randomly in the middle, everything. Because then the next thing is okay. It's okay, amigo. Just let me go riding in the rodeo. I'm confused. I don't understand.
[00:43:51] Speaker B: I don't. Right now I'm doing the motion. I'm like, wait, I've never watched the rodeo. I'm moving my fingers up and down. It's like, is this what they do? Like, how many fingers?
[00:44:03] Speaker A: I have no idea. I'm confused.
[00:44:05] Speaker B: Yeah. I don't know.
[00:44:06] Speaker A: Because all the other stuff makes sense, I guess.
[00:44:10] Speaker B: I mean, listen, this is. This is an Irish guy writing about. Right, The American cowboy. So maybe he's like. Yeah, it's like, you know, I've seen the. The fingers.
[00:44:20] Speaker A: I don't know. Anyway, why don't you go first?
[00:44:23] Speaker B: This is a little bit hard because in the beginning, I was Like, Yeah, but I mean, the more went, the more I, like, liked it. I mean, the lyrics. I'm gonna do lyrics last because I'm not sure about the lyrics. I'm gonna say seven on the music. I mean, I think it was. It was actually pretty good. The production was good. Again, some of the stuff is here and there, but I'm gonna say seven on the production because overall, I did like it. The melody was pretty good. I think I'm gonna do sevens on everything but lyrics. I'll do six on lyrics. I'm not really gonna ding. I mean, you know, obviously he paints a picture, whatever picture it is. But, I mean, yeah, the more. The more I. The more I went on, the more I liked it. And I did like what they did with the music. I did like the solos. What do you think?
[00:45:03] Speaker A: I wasn't too sure if I was going to like this or not at the beginning, but I did. The more I listened to it, the more I liked it. So, yeah, I'm going to say six on the lyrics, seven on the melody, seven on the music arrangement. I mean, I don't know about the solo being in that spot again, but I might just ding that to six. And production. I'll say seven is a little bit better. The solos, even though loud, it wasn't as bad. Yeah, but he comes in weird places with the solos, though. Strange places over choruses. But not at the end of things. I would almost think I would have rather had that at the end. That it faded on that maybe. I don't know. That's what I would think. What the fuck do I know? Believe it or not, we're at the end of the album, right?
[00:45:40] Speaker B: Yeah. Back when albums used to be eight or nine songs.
[00:45:43] Speaker A: Yeah, this is nine songs. And this is Emerald now. Emerald. I've heard before. I've heard the Ace Fraley version, who. He did on his Origins record. I was always wondering why he picked this to do.
[00:45:55] Speaker B: I wouldn't know this song for Madam, even. Even that. And even though he did it live, remember we saw him do it live and we were like. We're like, wait, what? Why would you do this one? So I didn't. I didn't give it a chance.
I really didn't give it a chance because I think at that point, right, he had already done two Origins albums.
[00:46:12] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:46:12] Speaker B: This is a cover you pick. And I think it also had to do again with some of the other songs that he picked to do from Kiss, from, like, dude, come on, you've got so many songs. In your repertoire that you could be doing. And this was that show after Covid, too. Right when we heard it, when it was like, you know, a thousand people packed into, like, a 300 person spot.
[00:46:30] Speaker A: Yeah, it was bad.
[00:46:31] Speaker B: Yeah, that was bad.
[00:46:32] Speaker A: And the chants, by the way, in Poughkeepsie, man, that was bad.
[00:46:36] Speaker B: I mean, listen, a great place. They got some great bands, especially if you're into the 80s stuff.
[00:46:40] Speaker A: Yeah, there was too many people there.
[00:46:42] Speaker B: Oh.
[00:46:42] Speaker A: It was literally right after Covid. So. Yeah, like the first show after Covid.
[00:46:46] Speaker B: I mean, I basically spent the whole night in somebody else's. I can't remember if it was a stomach or a back.
[00:46:53] Speaker A: Yeah, I got pushed a bunch of times there. I was just like, I don't know if I can do this much longer. So here we go. So this is Emerald.
[00:47:03] Speaker C: Down from the glen came the Majin with their shields and their sword to fight the fight they believed to be right Overthrow the Overlords to the towns where there was plenty they brought plunder, swords and flame when they left, the town was empty and children would never play again.
[00:47:56] Speaker B: That's good.
I like that.
[00:47:59] Speaker A: I really like a lot.
[00:48:00] Speaker B: Yeah, it's like. It's like new wave of British heavy metal, kind of.
[00:48:03] Speaker A: Yeah, it's very weird because I think the Ace Freely version was a lot slower than this.
This is definitely better.
[00:48:11] Speaker B: Yeah, I'm gonna. I'll. After the thing, I'll check it out because. Yeah, I like this. I mean, this is memorable to me. When he did it, I wasn't.
[00:48:18] Speaker A: No, this is definitely better. I like. I like the way this sounds better. I hadn't heard the original before I heard this, so I didn't like the COVID but this is yet way better.
[00:48:27] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:48:28] Speaker A: Yeah. So it's about Irish Emerald Isle, so it's historical. I guess so. Verse one is, down from the glen came the marching men with their shields and their swords to fight the fight they believed to be right Overthrow the Overlords to the towns where there was plenty they brought plunder, swords and flame when they left, the town was empty and their children would never play again I like the little instrumental break there. I'm sure there's gonna be a lot of guitar in this, I'm sure.
[00:48:53] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:48:54] Speaker A: So. All right, let's continue.
[00:48:58] Speaker C: From their graves I heard the fall of above the belt by that bridge near the border There were many born today Then onward over the mountain Outward towards the sea they come to play the alone without it they could not leave.
[00:49:32] Speaker A: I'm gonna read stuff before we get into it because I think there's gonna be a lot of music here. So.
[00:49:37] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:49:38] Speaker A: Verse two is from their graves I heard the fallen above the battle cry by that bridge near the border There were many more to die then onward over the mountain Outward towards the sea they came to claim the emerald without it they would not leave.
[00:49:52] Speaker B: You know what I noticed they do, too? The flange. Right. Every once in a while, they kind of throw it in there.
[00:49:57] Speaker A: That's a 70s, like, even here.
[00:49:59] Speaker B: Yeah, but I'm saying it's not. It's. It's weird. It's almost not even. It's kind of like a chord will have it, and then he kind of stops. It's like.
But it's cool because you kind of pick up on Even, like, Boys Are Back in Town. I picked up on some effects that I hadn't picked up on like, even on his vocals. And I'll tell you what, though. I mean, one thing I kind of have noticed is that even though really knowing one major song from them, hearing them play guitar in other songs, I'm like, okay, this sounds like that style. So I think there is at least something to what they do where it's kind of. You know what I mean? Like, their own. Where you hear and you're like, oh, that sounds like a Thin Lindsey song.
[00:50:39] Speaker A: And we would never really know that if you only heard, like, one or two songs from them. Right?
[00:50:42] Speaker B: Yeah. You kind of pick up on it, like, okay. You know, it's similar.
That's pretty cool.
[00:50:47] Speaker A: Yeah. So I think we're gonna have a lot of dual guitar happening in here. Pretty positive.
[00:50:50] Speaker B: Nice. Let's do.
Yeah. That was awesome.
[00:53:27] Speaker A: I really like that.
[00:53:28] Speaker B: I mean, this is what I'm talking about, you know? Like. Okay, now I get it. I wasn't getting it so much on the first side until we got to. I mean. All right. Like, again, Jailbreak. Fine. It's. It was. It wasn't bad. But I mean, until we got to Warrior and kind of like, okay, well, boys are back in Town. But, I mean, stuff like this and warriors, kind of.
[00:53:48] Speaker A: That's.
[00:53:48] Speaker B: That's the standout stuff to me.
[00:53:50] Speaker A: Yeah. No, this is really awesome. I did not know this was as good of a song as it is. Yeah, I like it a lot.
[00:53:57] Speaker B: It's funny because I'm looking up to see. I mean, because that reminded me so much of Iron Maiden. So much.
[00:54:03] Speaker A: I was just going to say they must have pulled a lot from that.
[00:54:08] Speaker B: Yeah. But they're saying some people say yes and some People say, no, it wasn't them. I'm trying to find this. Like it was somebody else who kind of didn't. Did the same thing. But I mean, I was just like. But even the bass, the bass was great in that song.
I mean, that's really where I'm like, holy. Like it stood out to me. Yeah, that was really good.
[00:54:28] Speaker A: You know, it was super cool. I like it. I'm gonna be super easy on this. This is gonna be easy. An easy thing. Here you go, eight across. I like it a lot. The COVID did this no justice at all.
[00:54:43] Speaker B: I got.
Now I'm like, what'd you do, Ace? I mean, it's a straight up guitar song. How do you mess this up?
[00:54:50] Speaker A: I don't know. I didn't like it when he did it.
[00:54:53] Speaker B: Fans often cite Din Lizzie and their lush twin harmonies as a point of origin for Maiden Zool guitar type. But it's the lesser known Wishbone Ash that shoulders that responsibility. I think if anyone wants to understand Maiden's early thing in particular, the harmony guitars, all they have to do is listen to Wishbone Ash's Argus album. Harris stole Guitar World, then Lizzy too, but not as much. He affirmed. Okay, so is Wishbone Ash on the list?
[00:55:20] Speaker A: I don't know.
[00:55:20] Speaker B: You gotta get that album on there. Argus. It'd be funny if it sounds nothing like this. Really? Dude, come on.
I know. I've heard of them. I don't really. And I don't know that I really remember hearing them. I'm matching it. All eights. Quintuple.
[00:55:36] Speaker A: Yeah, it was awesome. See, this is what I want to get. I want to get things like this. Like. Ah. See, we've been missing this all our lives. This is what I want.
[00:55:43] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean, you know a song like this, you hear and you're like, what the fuck? Like, where. Where was this?
We said that about. What do we say? Journey. Right. Whatever song that was. And we're like, oh, come on, man. Where was this song when we were growing up? And I'm sure people probably knew about it, but. And I have this damn record and I don't remember this song. Which goes to show I really wasn't paying attention. So I apologize.
[00:56:10] Speaker A: This is awesome. This. See, this is. This again. This is why I want to have a record that I never don't know a lot about. Because you get stuff like this. Like this can definitely go on a playlist.
[00:56:19] Speaker B: Yeah. I mean, to me it's a couple stumbles where. I don't know. I felt like they Were trying too hard to. But if you do something like this, well, just do it.
Well, at least based on this one record. I don't know, but I'm assuming people keep talking about the, you know, the twin melodies and everything, so I'm pretty sure that there's stuff like this on their other records.
[00:56:38] Speaker A: Oh, it has to be. This can't be the outlier. Mm, no, I wouldn't think.
[00:56:45] Speaker B: Great way to end the fucking record, man. For sure.
[00:56:47] Speaker A: 100%. Yeah. I'm super happy that this is how it ended up. They came out super strong in the second side.
[00:56:53] Speaker B: Yeah, I like the second side better than the first, like, hands down.
[00:56:56] Speaker A: Yep, I agree. All right, so why don't you do your thing?
[00:56:58] Speaker B: Yeah. So we are part of the Deep dive podcast network again. Like I always say, great bunch of guys took us right in. If you want more individualized podcasts about bands like Rush, Judas Priest, Zeppelin, you name it, it's on there. So definitely check them out. And mark, where can they find this?
[00:57:12] Speaker A: On the Interwebs rock roulette pod on all the social media. Rockwelletpodcast.com submit your new bets so we can listen to some more new stuff and we'll get some more power metal. That'd be cool, right? Set your podcast player to auto download so you get all new episodes, which are released every Tuesday.
And, you know, if you can leave a five star review wherever you listen to podcasts, that'd be awesome. That would let us move up in the algorithm and more people get to hear us rant and talk about things that we know nothing about.
[00:57:42] Speaker B: Yeah, in general.
[00:57:44] Speaker A: Cool. So next week we get to spin the wheel again, which is nifty. And we'll have another new Bets again.
[00:57:49] Speaker B: Yeah. Looking forward to it. I mean, hey, if you think about it, right, New Bets started with Striper, and we all said that song was power metal.
[00:57:55] Speaker A: Oh, there you go. I almost wanted to say that that thing sounded a little bit like Striper. I was going to say that it's.
[00:58:00] Speaker B: It's in that. It's in that power metal vein. You know, the Halloween and then. So, I mean, it's.
[00:58:06] Speaker A: Yeah, it was cool. It was fun.
[00:58:07] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:58:07] Speaker A: All right, guys, we will see you next week.
[00:58:10] Speaker B: Yeah, ciao, ciao.
[00:58:12] Speaker A: Later.
