Episode 128 - Ghost - Meliora - Part 1

[00:00:00] Speaker A: Foreign. [00:00:05] Speaker B: This is our musical reaction breakdown and commentary analysis of this song. Under Fair use, we intend no copyright infringement and this is not a replacement for listening to the artist's music. The content made available on this podcast is for educational and informational purposes only. Notwithstanding a copyright owner's rights under the Copyright Act. Section 107 of the Copyright act allows limited use of copyrighted material without requiring permission from the rights holders for purposes such as education, criticism, comment, news, reporting, teaching, scholarship and research. These so called fair uses are permitted even if the use of the work would otherwise be infringing. Now on to the Rock Roulette Podcast. [00:01:14] Speaker A: Hey everybody. Welcome back to another episode of Rock Roulette Podcast. That's right, the crazy ass podcast that took over 1,400 albums, stuck them in a list, stuck them in a wheel, and typically every other week we spin the wheel. She picks a record for us and we go through a track by track. We talk about the music, the lyrics, the production, the melody and the arrangement and we just give it scores. Again, just a bunch of friends who wanted to do a podcast that love music. Just having some fun here. As always, we really want to thank anybody who listens. I know I've been saying it a lot lately, but it really is that we've been getting upticks every week. We seem to be going up even incrementally, but it's great. So we really want to thank everybody who's listening, spread the word and again, tell us what you like, what you don't like, any changes, any albums you'd like us to hear, any songs you'd like us to hear for the new bets. Just, you know, let us know. We'll. We'll reach out. Mark's always really good at reaching out. So tonight we are a trio. We have Frank. My name is Frank. And I'm sexy. [00:02:22] Speaker C: Thank you so much. Happy to be back. Thank you. [00:02:26] Speaker A: We have Mark. Oh, hi, Mark. [00:02:28] Speaker D: What's up, guys? [00:02:30] Speaker A: And I'm Seb. Ciao buena sera. So last week we wrapped up a pretty popular heavy metal, hair metal, I should say, album from 1985, rats, invasion of your privacy, which Mark actually wound up giving higher scores to, which I think he was. He was pretty surprised by that. But I mean, overall it's a fun record and it's not always that we find the favorite song on the second side. Mark, I think you especially like the second side. Correct. [00:02:58] Speaker D: Yeah, the second side was good. I think I liked the second side better than the first side. [00:03:02] Speaker A: Yeah, I think I did too. Overall, I mean, again, I think musically they're pretty good. I think the major criticism was Steven Piercey's melodies. I think kind of not always going places. I think a couple of albums after this, they really. He really started to change that and became the melodies, I think were a little bit more memorable. It's a fun listen. I mean, for what it's worth, having grown up in that era and kind of listening to music like that, I think it was pretty nostalgic. Frank, do you have any experience with this record? [00:03:29] Speaker C: Yeah. So Rat is one of my favorite 80s hair bands. Although this specific album is not one of my favorites, but is up there as one of my favorite heavy metal albums. I love all the music about it for. So for sure, it's great. [00:03:45] Speaker A: Obviously, before we get into the big Wheel, which we'd love to spin the mama wheel tonight, we get to do the. That's of course, it's always the first thing that we do, which is always fun. So Mark, if you're ready. [00:03:56] Speaker D: Right. Let me play this. [00:03:58] Speaker A: In a world where new music is. [00:04:02] Speaker E: Not easy to find. [00:04:05] Speaker C: Welcome to New Bets. [00:04:18] Speaker D: So can you see the wheel? [00:04:20] Speaker A: I see it. [00:04:21] Speaker D: All right, so here we go. Here's the new Bets wheel. [00:04:36] Speaker A: Oh, black crows wanting and waiting. [00:04:40] Speaker C: Oh, my God. No way. [00:04:43] Speaker A: I've heard a lot about this. This record. A lot of people say it's a return to form. Even though I've actually heard a lot of the other albums that I haven't heard. I'll return to. To form, get some. Some pretty good reviews. I'm looking forward to this. Frank, have you ever seen them? [00:04:56] Speaker C: I missed them by 4th and inches. They recently played in our area at the Capitol Theater and I missed it by 14 inches. Yeah. Was really upsetting. Get to watch them. Hey, listen, anyone who knows me knows that I love live music, so I had to go to Nashville for a business trip. And let me just tell you, there was not a night that the. So the com. So whenever our. Our events ended, like they typically ended around 5 or 6pm I was on the strip catching live music. Like 6:30. I just love live music. It's my thing. It's something that I will always do. I enjoy doing. And. [00:05:34] Speaker A: And at this point, it's just the. The two brothers, right, from. From the original band. [00:05:38] Speaker C: Yeah, exactly. Yeah, the Robinson Brothers. Yeah. [00:05:40] Speaker A: Yeah. Cool. Let's. Let's listen. [00:05:42] Speaker D: This is black crows wanting. [00:05:59] Speaker E: Sail cold exile Trying to stay friendly but feeling so hot down it's like I'm cold to the touch Won't you wear it down if I could have on my kiss no don't want your best Nothing but lonely wa. With no Just frozen mas Said the harsh thing of sorrow is what I recognize the truth of the matter isn't one you can't disguise I've been so lost on my own since the day you said good night I know we. We don't dare the chance but give it, give it this last dance I'm nothing but lonely Waiting and wanting Said I'm waiting and waiting for you all right. I'm nothing but lonely Waiting and all day never wanna Waiting for you I'm nothing but lonely Waiting and wanting Got it. And waiting for. [00:09:59] Speaker A: Mark, what do you think of that? [00:10:00] Speaker D: I actually like that a lot. He sounds really good. I'm surprised his voice is as good as it was. I figured he got a little bit older. It doesn't sound that much different, and I kind of like the whole thing about it. I'd be interested in hearing this album now. Since I heard the single. I thought it was pretty good. [00:10:14] Speaker A: Yeah, he sounds. He sounds like himself, just older, you know. Production's not bad. I like a little bit more fun. The drums, I think, but it kind of. It drew me in a little bit more as it went on as opposed to the beginning. I like a lot of the. The background voices and the gospel sounding voices, so I'd be curious to hear a lot of the more recent stuff because it's supposed to be pretty good. So, Frank, what. What did you think? [00:10:36] Speaker C: I love it. For me, it's that classic southern whiskey kind of rock that true to their roots in this one, so. Love it. [00:10:43] Speaker D: It was real good. I really like that a lot. His voice sounds great. [00:10:49] Speaker C: He sounds like a matured. He sounds like a matured version of himself, which is different than older version of himself. I love it. [00:10:56] Speaker A: Cool. So another one in the. In the books for. For the new bets. So, Mark, do you want to cue the outro? [00:11:02] Speaker D: Yep. Here we go. [00:11:06] Speaker A: In a world where new music is. [00:11:10] Speaker E: Not easy to find. [00:11:13] Speaker C: Welcome to. [00:11:26] Speaker A: Awesome. So tonight we get to spend, as we said, the mama wheel again. I know that everybody always has their thing about what they want, what they don't want. I know, Mark, you. You don't want any. Any more 80s at this point, I think. [00:11:39] Speaker D: Right. [00:11:40] Speaker A: You're kind of done with that. [00:11:41] Speaker D: Yeah, I'm done with the 80s. I don't need the 80s anymore. [00:11:43] Speaker A: I mean, I'd like something different, something unique maybe. Obviously something we haven't haven't heard before. Or even a different style of music that's within the genre, but maybe on the outskirts. So, Frank, any. Any particular thing that you want to hear or looking for? [00:11:59] Speaker C: I hope we get something a little bit obscure, Kind of like American angel, the first album kind of thing. Or Pretty Boy Floyd. Love to hear them come up. If Pretty Boy Floyd is not on this list, I'm gonna protest it. [00:12:14] Speaker D: It's on the list, don't you worry. [00:12:16] Speaker C: Electric Boys or Electric Toys? I love that album. [00:12:19] Speaker D: You know what? This sounds like Pretty Boy Floyd. Does it? Okay. [00:12:22] Speaker A: I mean, I'm ready. Mark, you wanna spin? [00:12:25] Speaker D: Yeah. Can you see the wheel? [00:12:26] Speaker A: Yep, I see it. [00:12:27] Speaker D: All right. [00:12:50] Speaker A: So, Mark, you must be excited about this Ghost. [00:12:54] Speaker D: I know you've never heard them. [00:12:56] Speaker A: I've heard one thing, but I don't really remember it. I'm curious. Clearly. They're incredibly popular band for. They've been popular for a while. The. The album is Melioria, by the way. For anybody say, which one is it? Yeah, I'm. I'm curious, Frank. Do you have any. Any experience or any knowledge of. Of the band? [00:13:15] Speaker C: I know that they play often. They tour a lot. That's it. [00:13:20] Speaker A: I mean, I'm. I'm. I'm ready, Mark, if you want to start it, man. I'm curious to see if this is the one that I listen to or if not, what it's like. [00:13:29] Speaker D: Yeah, well, this is their third record. It came out in 2015, so I know that Tobias Forge kind of does everything. Like, he's the singer and he changes the character. And I think all the band guys are called the Nameless Ghouls, which is kind of okay, because then you can, like, take anyone in and out of this. No one needs to even know who's in the band. And I think for a long time, no one even knew what he was. It was kind of a KISS thing. Like, who was behind the makeup? Nobody knows. So it's one of those things where, you know, they're using some of the things that KISS did to try to make themselves popular, which makes sense because they're a very theatrical band. [00:14:08] Speaker A: Yep. From what I've seen. [00:14:11] Speaker D: Yeah, There's a couple of songs on here. I know. So I think. I think I'm gonna like a bunch of this. But again, I've never listened to a whole Ghost record all the way through, so I'll be excited to kind of go through this and excited for you, because you've never really heard a lot of them. I know you've heard some stuff, but who knows? I don't Know if it's earlier or later stuff, so. So we'll see. [00:14:31] Speaker A: I don't know either. I don't remember which album was. Honestly, it was pretty poppyish or catchy ish from what I remember, but it was going back years, so. [00:14:40] Speaker D: Yeah. All right, well, this is the first song. It's called Spirit. [00:15:54] Speaker E: Throw yourself into the vessel of possibilities. You're queen. I. Spirit. [00:16:53] Speaker A: Yeah. So a little bit, I guess, of what I was expecting that that intro actually reminds me of the Scooby Doo show and. Which was the second set of cartoons they had done, I think. And it also reminds me of Elvira's movie Macabre. It's kind of like a mix of that. So not. Not as heavy as I would like it to be, I think. I mean, I know that there's. There is a discussion where you see them and you think it's going to be super heavy, but it's. It's not. So. But yeah, I mean, I think if that. It's a little bit heavier and then the melody is a little monotone. I think I like the chorus better than the verse. But. Mark, is this one of the ones that you know or. [00:17:44] Speaker D: No, no, I don't know this, but I do agree that his voice is super mellow. Like you expect it, but you expect even the music to be a little bit heavier because it starts a little heavier, but it kind of mellows out. So I think technically a lot of their stuff is like that. Like it's kind of pseudo metal, but there's a lot of pop in their stuff and it's very theatrical. So it's not going to be as like, you know, you're not going to get like super heavy, like metal out of them. But I guess there is some kind of metal ish stuff going on in there. [00:18:17] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean, the voice. His voice sounds familiar and I don't know if it's because I've heard. I don't think so. I mean, it's a little reminiscent of like Marilyn Manson kind of like that talking, almost singing. And obviously there's a little bit of sounds a little 70 inch Prague is a little bit in there. And you can hear the influence, I think too of some of like, you can hear King diamond doing this song, but obviously kind of be heavier and he'd have that. [00:18:50] Speaker D: So, yeah, I think his voice can get as annoying as King Diamonds can be. You know, King diamond is so high and. And I liked it when he didn't sing as high. I thought it was better here. I Think it's the same kind of thing. Not that it's annoying, but it's very monotone. Monotone, straight. Like he's. It's not a lot of inflection going on. And I don't know what kind of range he has because you can't really tell. So I don't know. So, Frank, what do you think about that? [00:19:18] Speaker C: I mean, so far, I kind of, like. I view them as a theatrical metal act, and I'm a big fan of that so far. I like it. [00:19:26] Speaker D: Yeah, I think we forgot to talk about that. Like, he sings, but like a mask, like, prosthetic thing on with makeup. And guitar players at this point have, like, the hoods and the pointed thing, or they have, like, the devil masks. I'm not sure what part of it we're up to. Yeah, I'm not versed enough in Ghost. [00:19:43] Speaker C: Neither am I. But. But. But the little I know about them is very, like, Mad Max, Fury Road kind of metal. Very theatrical. [00:19:51] Speaker D: So first one is, throw yourself into the vessel of possibilities, your green museum, the apparatus for soul mobility. A gateway to secrecy. Spirit, absinthe. Spirit absent. [00:20:04] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:20:04] Speaker D: So about absinthe, I guess. And I guess it's a little bit of a love story, I think, too. It's just weird that, you know, they kind of use the Catholic Church, but flipping it around and making it Satan, which is kind of. It's an interesting idea. [00:20:17] Speaker A: Well, I think I was reading it's. Some of the stuff is kind of written that way, but it's more of a criticism and I guess, like, how Black Sabbath use the devil more for, like, government and. [00:20:28] Speaker D: And they're from Sweden, I think, right? [00:20:29] Speaker A: I believe so, yeah. Which makes sense if someone's like, where do you take that from? I'd say Sweden. Norway. [00:20:36] Speaker D: Well, there's a lot of metal in Sweden, isn't there? [00:20:38] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean, the Scandinavian countries have a lot of different type. Power, Black, Crazy goes on up there. [00:20:43] Speaker D: Cold. They got nothing to do, I guess. [00:20:45] Speaker A: Yeah, they're always the happiest countries, so something's going right. [00:20:48] Speaker D: All right, let's continue. [00:20:57] Speaker E: Devilish creatures, Trumpets, the end of time. And I say where was. [00:21:47] Speaker A: Kind of the. The same. And it sounds like it's going into a. A solo. [00:21:52] Speaker D: Yeah. I have noticed, though, that there seems to be a little bit of rainbow going on there, too, with that little keyboard thing at the end of the verses. [00:21:59] Speaker A: I can hear that. [00:22:00] Speaker D: Yeah. I think they have a little bit of 70s Prague happening. [00:22:03] Speaker A: It's like Genesee Genesis, Genesisy kind of thing. A little bit. I can hear as well. Maybe. [00:22:09] Speaker D: Let's see what kind of soul they do here. [00:23:10] Speaker A: Honestly, that's my favorite part of the song so far was the. The instrumental part. It reminded me of someone. I just. I can't put my finger on it. It's probably so obvious. [00:23:21] Speaker D: It's very worked out. [00:23:23] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, absolutely. [00:23:24] Speaker D: This is not something he went and just winged, I don't think. I think he went and worked. No, exactly. Yeah. Because especially with the drums and the thing together, the keyboard parts together. That's something they worked out, which actually, for this music is probably better. [00:23:35] Speaker A: Yes, yes. Especially if. If you. If you're imagining a show to go along with it, you're probably like, oh, if I play like this, we could do this and this and that. So I would. I would definitely think this was worked out. [00:23:45] Speaker D: Verse two is seven seals, devilish creatures, trumpets, the end of time, cloven hooves, anti saint wormwood, catapulting your mind into the jaws of death. So it's so funny, but the words aren't bad, really. I actually think the words, as far as construction and stuff, better than rat, I think, overall, yes. Not as fun, obviously, but better, I think. [00:24:12] Speaker A: Yeah. I mean, from a hard standpoint, I guess it's cool. You know. From a Sleep with my crucifix now. Yeah. [00:24:18] Speaker D: All right. Yeah, Go find it quick. [00:24:20] Speaker A: I mean, from a horror standpoint, it's. It's pretty cool, I think. [00:24:23] Speaker D: You have any holy water around? Because we might need that. [00:24:25] Speaker A: I do. I do, actually. Somewhere in the house. I think it's from. From Italy or Portugal. [00:24:30] Speaker D: Start sprinkling it around because you may need. [00:24:32] Speaker A: I'm going to put it here. My water. [00:24:34] Speaker D: Or everything is going to go up in flames, probably so. All right, let's continue. [00:24:53] Speaker E: From the excursion possibilities, you're at the center gate. Spirit. [00:25:59] Speaker D: Very theatrical. It's very grand sounding. Very. [00:26:02] Speaker C: Very surround sound. [00:26:04] Speaker A: Sounds like it's probably going into the next song. I like that little crescendo at the end. [00:26:08] Speaker D: Yeah, it's good. I like the background vocals in the chorus, too. The choir thing, I like that too. Gives it a mood. [00:26:17] Speaker A: Just like I said. It reminds me of something. I just don't remember what it was. [00:26:21] Speaker D: Yeah, no, it's very familiar. Just whatever reason. Let me read out lyrics at the end and stuff. So the verse three is. There's no return from this excursion of possibilities. You're at the seventh gate. And then the outro is. Let none of this earth inherit this vision of my spirit. It is a little concept. Y Right. It's a concept album. I guess he's telling the story. [00:26:43] Speaker A: Yeah. I mean, I don't know how the rest of the songs go. This definitely sounds like an intro type song. Like it's going somewhere. [00:26:50] Speaker D: Yeah. So what do you think? [00:26:51] Speaker A: Let me see. I mean, it's okay. I say I'm gonna say six on the lyrics. I could kind of like the horror vibey things it's got going on or horror eves. Not exactly how to say that. The melody I'm not really crazy about. I think it's kind of monotone. It doesn't really go anywhere. So I'm gonna say five on that. That. I mean, the music is okay. I say six on the arrangement because, I mean, I do like the way it's arranged. Production is okay. I'll say six. I wish there was a little bit more oomph music. I know it's okay. We'll say five on the music. I know I'm going kind of low again. It's not played badly. It's okay. What do you think? [00:27:27] Speaker D: I think I'm gonna give 600 lyrics. They're not bad. I kind of like them. They're okay. Melody wise. It's a little lacking. There's sometimes I feel like some stuff is shoehorned in just because they want to kind of get those words in there as opposed to the melody itself. So I think I like the chorus melody too, better than the verse melody. So I'm gonna say five. I think I'm gonna do six on the rest. I mean, you know, solo was good. I like the arrangement. I like the background vocals. You know, it's setting a tone, I think, for what the rest of the record is going to be. I assume so. I thought that was good, Frank, for me. [00:27:57] Speaker C: Music, production, arrangement. I'm gonna give this a six. I think they all go hand in hand. Again, it's that theatrical metal. And I think this one kind of miss a little bit of the mark of that theatrics. The lyrics. I'm gonna give that a five. Melody. Yeah, I'm gonna give that a five. There's nothing here so far. I don't know. It does. It just doesn't sit well. So I gotta give that a 5. This song missed that whole theatrical mark in my eyes. [00:28:25] Speaker D: All right, so the next song is from the Pinnacle to the pit. This is one of my favorite songs on here. I do like this a lot. I like the riff. I like. I've heard this song a bunch of times. [00:28:35] Speaker A: I've never heard this song? [00:28:37] Speaker D: No. You've never heard it? [00:28:38] Speaker A: Well, not from the title. [00:28:39] Speaker D: Oh. You know, I was gonna ask you before we go into this, what did you think about the drum sound? I didn't think the drum sound was bad. I thought it was good. [00:28:45] Speaker A: No, it wasn't bad. Like I said, I wish I had a little bit more. The actual sound of them weren't. It wouldn't, you know, they didn't sound bad. [00:28:50] Speaker D: Yeah, I noticed that right away that I was like, oh, this sounds like drums. It doesn't sound like a sample. [00:28:55] Speaker A: Yes, it didn't have. It did seem to have. Exactly. [00:28:59] Speaker D: All right, well, here we go. From the pinnacle to the pin it. [00:29:26] Speaker E: You have the power. You wear the crown from the pinnacle through the pit it is a long way down. You wield a scepter. You wear the gown. [00:30:02] Speaker C: From the pinnacle. [00:30:04] Speaker E: To the pit, it is a long way down. In your empire they star it frown. From the pinnacle to the m. It is a long way down. You are cast out. Out from the canons to the ground, black and feathers falling down. You are cast out from the canons to the ground, black and feathers falling down. You wear your independence like. [00:31:08] Speaker D: Like a cry. [00:31:14] Speaker A: I like that main riff, that. The bass riff. The verses aren't bad. I don't really like the chorus. And again, he's very monotone. It's almost the same complaint that we were kind of having about Steven Piercy last week. It's not bad. I mean, I do like the verse. I do like them, that main riff and that little whatever thing, that dude, whatever they're playing over that. But yeah, I like it better than the first song so far. [00:31:40] Speaker D: Yeah, I always like this song. I like the riffs in the song. I think the riffs are really good. There's riffs in the verse I like and I do enjoy that. From the pinnacle to the pit. I like how he changes like the voice there. I kind of like that the course is okay. I mean, I don't hate the chorus. That's all right. It's fine. That's not really the part that I like. I really like the verses better. I like the riff and the verses and there's like other riffs that are going on in the verse that I like like. I like the music of it a lot. And I do like the verses, melody and that. He changes up his stuff on that pinnacle to the pit. I like that. They don't use pinnacle to the pit in the chorus. They use it in the verses. So that's pretty cool. Arrangement wise change it up. It's like three verses in a row. Like, I didn't want to stop until I got to the chorus, but it was taking forever. [00:32:23] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:32:24] Speaker D: So I had to stop. We're halfway through the song already and I didn't even stop. [00:32:27] Speaker A: Oh, nice. [00:32:28] Speaker D: Obviously the chorus has to be. Is it. I assume it's Satan falling from the heavens to the ground. Blackened feathers. So his wings went from white angel wings to black Satan wings. [00:32:38] Speaker A: That's what it sounds like. Yeah. [00:32:40] Speaker D: I mean, obviously, very literal. Verse one is, you have the power. You wear the crown from the pinnacle to the pit, it's a long way down. You wield the scepter. You wear the crown from the pinnacle to the pit, it's a long way down. In your empire they stare and frown. From the pinnacle to the pit, it's a long way down. And the chorus is, you're cast out from the heavens to the ground. Blackened feathers falling down. You're cast out from the heaven to the ground. Blackened feathers falling down. You will wear your independence like a crown. So basically saying that he got kicked out of heaven, now he's in hell. Right. But he's going to wear the crown here because you're the master of this thing. [00:33:20] Speaker A: Yeah. This is all yours. [00:33:21] Speaker D: Yeah. All the words about like, you wield the scepter, you wear the gowns. Now he's wearing the scepter. Down there, you have the power, it's your empire. Everyone stares and frowns at you, but this is where you rule. So it's. It's the pro Satan thing, which is. And I know it's probably not really about that. They lean into it so hard. [00:33:39] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:33:40] Speaker D: But hey, if anyone protests your. That means you're probably doing the right thing. You used to get popular when they protest your stuff. [00:33:46] Speaker A: Yeah, for sure. Well, they are popular. I mean, I've heard their name been mentioned for years. [00:33:50] Speaker D: They've been around for a while now. All right, so let's do the solo. [00:34:21] Speaker A: I like that, too. I mean, obviously it's based off the. The verse. I think production was better in that part than it was throughout the rest of the song. I mean, again, I'm just saying I would like a little bit more oomph. What. What did you think of the solo? [00:34:32] Speaker D: Yeah, that was good for what it is. It matches the song. Again, there's a little more. It's not as worked out. I think there's a little bit more improv, I think, in there. A little bit like he was playing around and figured out what he wanted to do, as opposed to the other one, which was very worked out because it was going with the drums and, like, he had to do parts that were fitting that. I liked it. I thought it was good. Frank, what did you think? [00:34:51] Speaker A: I don't know. [00:34:51] Speaker C: It's like. Like, I feel like this is like the Mike Tyson of rock bands. So here they are, right? You see Mike Tyson is this big, muscular guy, and then when you hear him talk, you'd be like, really? So I see the COVID of the album. You see them with all this mask, you see all this thing. Don't see the music, like, really. Like you're expecting something a little bit stronger maybe, and maybe they get there, but I don't know. So far, it's like the look doesn't match the voice, if you will. [00:35:20] Speaker D: I can see that. I can understand why people would say that. I think that too. Like, you expect super duper heavy. It starts out heavy, but then it ends up not being as heavy as you want. There's a lot of. A lot of melody and a lot of melodic stuff going on here that has nothing to do with the heaviness of what you think is going to be there. [00:35:38] Speaker C: I don't know, it just. It just doesn't. There's something off so far for me. [00:35:43] Speaker D: All right, so we're almost done here, so let's. Let me back it up a little bit and then we'll run it out. Here we go. [00:35:58] Speaker E: You stand your ground. The form is figured. [00:36:08] Speaker C: What? [00:36:09] Speaker E: Splat looks round from the benefit. Gone to the pit. It is a long way down. You are cast out from the feathers to the ground. Blackened feathers falling down. You are cast out from the feathers to the ground. Black and feathers falling down. You wear your independence like a crown. [00:37:14] Speaker A: I wasn't expecting to end my thing. Maybe that was him hitting the ground. [00:37:19] Speaker D: I like the ending, though. I'd like to. So what'd you think? [00:37:24] Speaker A: I like the chorus better the second time around than I did the first time around. I think they did something different because the music, I think, dropped out the first time. I could be wrong, or it just became. It wasn't as strong. I'd say five on the lyrics. I mean, I don't know, there's. There's not much to that. I'll probably see a 5 on the. On the melody. I'm just. Again, I'm not crazy about what he's doing musical, so it's funny. I like half of it. So technically I should give it a five because I do like that main riff, the solo But I'm just. The other part of it I'm not too crazy about. Yeah, I guess five arrangement is fine. I'll say five in the arrangement and six on the production. I know it's a little low. I think if I want to bump those up. Yeah, I'll give them a six on arrangement. [00:38:10] Speaker D: You know what? [00:38:11] Speaker A: I'll give him a six on music, too. I like half of it. I mean, production. Honestly, that might be one where I might ding it a little bit more. I'm gonna say 5 of production. A little angry with the production. I think it needs it to be a little bit heavier. What do you think? [00:38:21] Speaker D: I like it. I think the chorus got stronger at the end, so I thought that was good. I like the riffs. I. I don't really hate. I like. This is one of my favorite songs I've heard from them, so I really do like it. So I'm gonna do triple sevens across. There's only one Way to rock, and it's Quinniple seven. Nikki Titty Baby. There you go. That's just Sammy Hagar. I know you wanted it nice. [00:38:41] Speaker A: I didn't know who it was at first. [00:38:43] Speaker C: Oh, Jesus Christ, here we go. Don't bring that. Don't bring that topic up again, please. Please. We already had that topic. Sammy Hagar, please. I like him. Listen, I like him as an independent artist in the story. It's like bringing Tom Brady to the New York Giants. Don't give me that. I don't care who he is. [00:39:03] Speaker D: He doesn't belong four episodes ago. He's still upset. [00:39:08] Speaker C: I'm that passionate about my Van Halen, bro. [00:39:12] Speaker D: I enjoy the song. It's one of the ones that I like from this record. I'm trying to think, you know, it's very strange, like you guys said, it's so familiar in lots of ways. And I can't put my finger on where the familiarity is on all the parts. [00:39:26] Speaker C: Me neither. Me neither. I wonder if it's just a culmination of different bands and sounds that we heard over the years, but I. I just. I just can't put my finger on. I'm just. I'm. I'm jogging my memory banks and trying to pinpoint. I just haven't been able to so far. It's great. I like the band. I like the sound, but I just. They sound so familiar. Just. It's driving me crazy. [00:39:47] Speaker D: So, Frank, what do you think? [00:39:49] Speaker C: I like the song. I like. I'm gonna give this seven soul across again. I. I really like the sound. The production, the music, everything about it, it's just. It's just great. It's one of those songs that I can picture myself listening to over and over again. So, yeah, I get it at seven across. [00:40:05] Speaker D: Nikki Titty, Baby Quintuple. Seven. All right, well, the next song is. I think you pronounce it Cersei. Cersei. Is that how you pronounce that? Cersei? I think that's what it is. I think I've heard this one, too. So let's. Let's do that. So this is Cersei. [00:41:43] Speaker E: I feel your presence among star. You cannot hide in the darkness. [00:41:54] Speaker C: Can. [00:41:55] Speaker E: You the rumble can you hear the rumble? It's calling I know your soul is not tainted Even though you've been told so. Can you hear the rumble? Can you hear the rumble that's calling? I can feel the thunder that's breaking in your heart I can see through the skies and inside you I can feel the thunder that's breaking in your heart I can see through the stars inside you. [00:43:03] Speaker A: The very intro with the acoustic is a. Almost like the Guard TV theme. Kind of reminds me of the beginning riff. Reminds me of like a Slayer intro. And then the main riff it kind of goes into is a little bit. Kind of like Metallica, like Black Forward. [00:43:19] Speaker D: That's. [00:43:20] Speaker A: That's the vibe that it's given me. I mean, it's a little, for me, a little bit more. [00:43:25] Speaker E: Give me fuel, give me five, Give. [00:43:26] Speaker C: Me that which I desire. [00:43:29] Speaker D: It does sound metallic ish. Yeah, it sounds metallic ish. I like it, though. I thought the ribs really good. It's never going to be as hard as you want it to be. There's always going to be that sheen over it. [00:43:38] Speaker A: Yeah, that's. That's. That's the vibe I'm getting. [00:43:40] Speaker D: Yeah. It's never going to be the way you think it's going to be. I think his voice, though, I think on this has a little less monotone than the first two. There's a little more emotion, I think, in this, personally. I think so. [00:43:50] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:43:50] Speaker D: There's this more range, but I do like this a lot. Here is the. The verse. I feel your presence among us. You cannot hide in the darkness. Can you hear the rumble? Can you hear the rumble that's calling? I know your soul is not tainted Even though you've been told so. Can you hear the rumble? Can you hear the rumble that's calling? And then. What are those big things behind those boom, boom? Is that Tim Poly's? What are those things Those big bass drum things, what are they called? [00:44:20] Speaker A: They could be that. Yeah, the timpani, dear Castro. [00:44:23] Speaker D: Yeah, it's like Tim. [00:44:24] Speaker A: Potty or timpani. Tiffany. Drums. [00:44:26] Speaker D: Timpani. [00:44:27] Speaker A: I don't know. I think it's simply God. It's not to say that obviously. [00:44:30] Speaker D: I'm not a drummer. [00:44:31] Speaker A: People like you. Idiots. [00:44:34] Speaker D: So the chorus is, I can feel the thunder that's breaking in your heart. I can see through the scars inside you. I can feel the thunder that's breaking in your heart. I can see through the scars inside you. Is he talking about people who have. Automatically have sin when they're born? Is that what this is? [00:44:49] Speaker A: I. That reference to the something that you have on that you're born with? Yeah, I would think so. I definitely think that's what's in. In reference to it. [00:44:56] Speaker D: I know your soul is not tainted. That part. So maybe this is a little bit of a criticism of the Catholic Church. [00:45:02] Speaker A: Yeah, that's what it sounds like. It's. They actually want a Grammy for this song. It says that. It looks like the pronunciation is Cersei. [00:45:11] Speaker D: That's what I thought. [00:45:14] Speaker A: Is that. [00:45:15] Speaker D: I don't know. [00:45:16] Speaker A: Yes. Reese, maybe. Listen, I'm sure there's a. Anybody who hears this and knows are probably like this. I pronounce it, you idiot. But I just kind of went by what I just saw, and then it said, lyrics approach the listener warmly, like a pastor, assuring them that they belong and they're accepted by Satan. Of course. [00:45:37] Speaker D: So, Frank, what do you think about this? [00:45:39] Speaker C: I mean, for me, so far, they sound very Faith no More, kind of. Which is great, by the way. This song. This song I like a lot because of that. [00:45:46] Speaker D: You know why, though? Because Faith no More, the big song, is very worked out. It's very like this. It's got the keyboard parts. It's very similar in structure and just the way it's put together. Maybe that's what it's giving you, a little bit of Faith no More. Maybe. [00:46:02] Speaker C: Yeah. But the vocals and I. And I can understand what Sav is saying is very familiar. I just can't pinpoint where as well. And It's. It's a 90s vocal. It's a 90s vocal, Seattle sound, vocal. I just can't pinpoint. Oh, yeah. [00:46:16] Speaker D: Yet. All righty. Let's continue. [00:46:27] Speaker E: A candle casting a f globe. [00:46:33] Speaker D: You. [00:46:33] Speaker E: And I see eye to eye. Can you hear the thunder? I can hear the thunder that's breaking now. There is nothing between us from now our work is eternal. Can't you see that you're lost. [00:47:05] Speaker A: Can'T. [00:47:05] Speaker E: You see that you're lost without me? I can feel the thunder that's breaking in your heart. I can see through the stars inside you. I can feel the thunders breaking in your heart I can see through the stars inside you. [00:47:41] Speaker A: I will say I like the chorus better when there's something underneath it. The first time around, I didn't really like it as much, and the way this started and like it as much. But then I think once they bring the music into it, it elevates the chorus. So I definitely like it better now than I did before. Yeah. [00:47:58] Speaker D: And I like that little end part right before the solo, right before the chorus again, where they kind of like, cut it out. So that was good. And then that little riff going right before the solo, that's so Metallica sounding. [00:48:08] Speaker A: Yeah, they're kind of under them, too. Yeah. [00:48:11] Speaker D: Yeah. All right, so first two is a candle casting a faint glow. You and I see eye to eye. Can you hear the thunder? How can you hear the thunder that's breaking now? There is nothing between us from now our merge is eternal. Can't you see that you're lost? Can't you see that you're lost without me? And then the chorus comes back again. And then there's a little riff. I'm gonna. I want to play that little riff again because I like that. This was definitely not stolen, but it's definitely influenced by certain parts of Metallica. It's just. You can hear it. I think Metallica likes them. I think, too, what I hear. Yeah. Here we go. Solar time. [00:48:53] Speaker E: In your heart I can see through the stars inside you. [00:49:45] Speaker A: Not the last part, but the beginning a little bit. Was a little bit of kind of like 80s AOR. I felt like. I don't know if I want to say, almost journeyish. [00:49:54] Speaker D: There's a lot of stuff in there that's very familiar, and I'm not too sure why. There's so many pieces, and I feel that, like, I've heard that before. I've heard that before. But not like a rip, though. [00:50:03] Speaker A: No, an influence. [00:50:04] Speaker D: Yeah. And his solos, they're very worked out. Like, he has a beginning, middle, end. That's good. Like, I like this one, too. He changed it up, up. Like, the first part was really melodic, and then he made a little more shreddy. [00:50:14] Speaker A: A little. [00:50:14] Speaker D: Not really shreddy, but, you know, a little more technique. And then he put the whammy pedal in there at the end. That was pretty cool. I have nothing bad to say about the solos. I think they're good. [00:50:23] Speaker A: Yeah. I mean, honestly, there's some of my favorite parts, really, of these songs. [00:50:26] Speaker D: Yeah. And there's some interesting arrangement choices. First chorus, no music. Second chorus, music. Then that little break between the third ver. Is that the third verse? The verse two, and then the second chorus. So it's pretty cool. I mean, I think they do a lot of interesting stuff. Listen. I think a lot of people think that they should be heavier than they are just because of what they look like. But this is what it feels like to me. This is a theatrical band. It's like saying Alice Cooper should be heavier because it's Alice Cooper. And then you hear their music and it's super poppy, too. [00:50:55] Speaker A: I guess this is metal. I mean, I guess I would say that. I wouldn't just call this like rock. I mean, again, if theatrical metal is a thing. But I'm sure there's different versions of that too. I mean, there's so many genres and sub genres. [00:51:07] Speaker D: The metal light. [00:51:08] Speaker A: Yeah, metal light. [00:51:10] Speaker D: There are parts of metal in this 100%. [00:51:13] Speaker A: Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. [00:51:15] Speaker D: It's just weird. Like, even the guitars, even though they're distorted, they're very smooth. So it's not like some metal be just in your face. Not really in your face. It's heavy, but it's not like bashing you over the head. This is a fairly long song. It's over six minutes. 602 to be exact. Yeah. All right, let's. Let's finish it out. [00:51:37] Speaker E: I can see that you lost without me I can feel the thunder that's breaking in your heart I can see through the scars inside you I can feel the thunder that's breaking in your heart I can see through the sky stars inside you I can see through the scars inside you I can feel the thunders breaking your heart I can see through the stars inside. [00:52:46] Speaker A: So they are definitely not a fade bantam. [00:52:50] Speaker D: The end. The end song's really weird, though. The end. Well, because this is very. This is very theatrical. This is very concept, this. So it's not. There's not going to be a lot of fades, I don't think. [00:52:58] Speaker A: Yeah. Plus, I guess if they're imagining a live show. I don't know if every live show is different. How much it. It incorporates the. The record or how they do it or what they do it. I've never seen. I've only seen kind of bits of him singing. And that's really it. Not the rest of it. That probably has something to do with it too. Just kind of End where you can stop and then go into something else. [00:53:19] Speaker D: So, yeah, I enjoyed this song a lot. I really like this song. Song. I think all the changes were pretty cool. I like the end. He actually had some singing power at the end, too. He didn't just monotone that thing all the way out. [00:53:30] Speaker A: It's actually funny that you. He does at the end. To me, it starts like. Like Bennington and then fades into Bach. [00:53:40] Speaker D: And that's not two bad things to be. No, no. [00:53:43] Speaker A: That's what I'm saying. I wish he. I honestly wish he used his voice a little bit more like that instead of the kind of. Of thing that he seems to do a lot. [00:53:51] Speaker D: I think that's 100 on purpose that he's trying to convey a certain thing. Yeah. [00:53:56] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. [00:53:57] Speaker D: Oh, yeah. [00:53:59] Speaker A: Yeah. I'm sure it's a. You know, it's a style choice, which is fine. I mean. [00:54:03] Speaker D: All right, well, I'll go first this time. I think I like this song just as much as the other one, so I'm gonna give it sevens across. I'm not gonna go over everything I said before, but I do like it a lot. I like the changes. I like the guitar solo. I like the riffs in here. I like the different, you know, choruses without music and with music. I think they took a lot of chances, which. It could have been a much simpler thing, but they did do a lot of stuff, and I kind of like that. So I guess I'm going to do triple sevens again. And if I do triple 7s, that means I have to do another one of these. Who am I going to do this time? Let's see. Oh, I know what to do. Here we go. [00:54:38] Speaker A: Keep one eye open. It's Nikki Titty Baby Quinniple seven. [00:54:42] Speaker D: That seems like the right one. [00:54:44] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:54:44] Speaker D: All right. Why don't you go. [00:54:46] Speaker A: I'm going to. I mean, lyrics. I mean, not that they're bad, but it's just kind of really the same thing over and over. So I think I'm gonna say five on those again. But, I mean, I do think this song is stronger than the one before it again, because I wasn't crazy about the chorus the first time, but I think once the music went on behind it, it was better. Production's a little weak, but it's fine. I'll just make it easy. Just say sixes for everything else. I think that's the easiest thing to do. [00:55:10] Speaker D: Frank. [00:55:10] Speaker C: I like the song. I like. I'm gonna give this seven, so Lacrosse again. I. I really like the sound, the production, the music, everything about it, it's just. It's just great. It's one of those songs that I can picture myself listening to over and over again. Yeah, I get it at 7 across. [00:55:26] Speaker A: Music can change the world because it can change people. And it's quintuple seven Nikki Titty Baby. [00:55:34] Speaker C: And by the way, the lyrics match the tone of the song. Song, you know, so that's why I'm giving it sevens across because it just matches. You know, you. You know, when you have great lyrics but there's horrible music behind it and vice versa. You have great music with horrible lyrics. This is one of those situations that they both match. And that's why I think this song is so great. [00:55:55] Speaker D: And like Frank said, there's so many things that are familiar that you're not sure where the familiar parts are. Like you just know, you know things from here, but you don't know where it's coming from from. [00:56:04] Speaker C: I know that personally speaking, this weekend I'm going to be spending listening to my 90s remix kind of playlist just to pinpoint where it is. I mean, so far for me, there's some Faith no More in there for sure. I can hear that there's more to it for sure. [00:56:19] Speaker D: I hear some 70s Prague in there somehow. I hear some heavier Metallica ish stuff. There's a bunch of mix of things that he all mushes together there. All right, well, the next thing is instrumental, so we're probably not going to rate this, but this is, I guess, how you say this is spokesonat, which means, I think Ghost Sonata from what I read. [00:56:43] Speaker A: Oh. Oh, nice. [00:56:45] Speaker D: Yeah. So this is only like 50 something seconds. Let's play this through. Here we go. [00:57:39] Speaker A: That was a long note at the end, so it doesn't even sound like it goes directly into the. The next one. [00:57:44] Speaker D: Yeah, no, I think that fades out there. It's interesting. A little dissonance in it. I mean, it's. [00:57:50] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:57:50] Speaker D: I don't know, it's a weird thing to put in the middle, but I guess they're trying again, trying to be very concept with this. So there's a reason why it's there, I assume. [00:57:58] Speaker A: Yeah. This reminds me of something like King diamond puts at the beginning and maybe have some kind of speaking over it and then it kind of goes into the rest. [00:58:06] Speaker D: Yeah, I see some parallels between King diamond and this and Merciful Fate probably too. Right. [00:58:11] Speaker A: Yeah. I don't know them as well, but I mean, they're another band, man, that gets Talked about a lot, so maybe they'll come up one one day. I know we had King diamond already. We've never had Merciful Fate, so. [00:58:23] Speaker D: No. And they're on the list. [00:58:24] Speaker A: I figured. I was about to ask you, but I'm like 1400 albums and. And Merciful Fate is on it. That'd be kind of a surprise to me. [00:58:32] Speaker D: Yeah. No, it's there. All right. So we're at the end of the first side. So this song is called He Is. [00:59:00] Speaker E: We're standing here by the abyss and the world World is in place. [00:59:09] Speaker A: Two star crossed lovers reaching out to the beast with many names. [00:59:23] Speaker E: He'S the shining in the light without whom I cannot see that he is insurrection He Spike he's the force that made me be he is no he. [00:59:55] Speaker A: The beginning melody reminds you a little bit of sound, of silence sense. Because it's like kind of like I want to say. And then the Latin part that they throw in reminds me of she's so high. Because it's like. I don't know. I mean, it is what it is. What do you think of this one mark so far? [01:00:20] Speaker D: I kind of like it. It's very interesting. I do like the verse and the chorus. I think they're both good. I want to see where it goes to. But I'd be curious to see what happens here because they usually surprise me about what they're going to do. He puts some interesting things together. You know, you can make it just a heavy record, right? He puts a lot of melody and a lot of popness in and then familiar things that you're not too sure about where it comes from, but you're like, huh. So, Frank, what do you think about this? Do you like it? [01:00:47] Speaker C: Yeah. A little bit different, what we heard so far, right? I like it. I'm just was thrown for a loop on this one, I guess. [01:00:57] Speaker D: So the words are. We're standing here by the abyss and the world is in flames. Two star crossed lovers Reaching out to the beast with many names he is. He's the shining and the light without whom I cannot see and he is insurrection he is spite he's the force that made me be. He's nostro dispatter. He's Nostra ama mater. He is. It's just, you know, I just. Every time I read those words, I'm just like, if it's what it's supposed to be. It's just so funny because the way they fit it into like the Catholic stuff and then this. I don't know. There's a double meaning here. I don't know what kind of double meaning there could be here. I don't see much double meaning. [01:01:38] Speaker A: So, apparently the song was originally written in Italian with the title Leia, which means she is. So I guess they changed it to influenced by prog rock. It says in religious music I can. [01:01:52] Speaker D: Hear the Prague a little bit. [01:01:54] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean. I mean, it just. It depends on where they go with it, you know? [01:01:58] Speaker C: Now, if this song was sung in Italian with this melody, I would swear to God this is something you could play in the Exorcist. It'll freak me the out. It really would freak me the out Out. If you sang this song in Latin. It would freak me out. [01:02:12] Speaker D: Yeah. I mean, they're trying to do a concept here. They're. They're trying to push their concept, right. About what they go. What they're doing. I see why people like them, but this has to be like an escapism. And I'm sure when people go to the concerts, there are people who dressed up like them, too. Kind of like when Kiss does it. And, like. You know what I mean? People dress like Kiss. It's got to be very similar. [01:02:31] Speaker C: Oh, yeah. Yeah. So they played re. They played this past summer, not too far away from us. And. And that concert was sold out. And yes, fans showed up in cosplay for sure. [01:02:41] Speaker D: They got something good going on. Good for them. Alrighty. And let's continue. Here we go. [01:03:01] Speaker E: House are now destroyed. The guidance of the Morning Star will lead the way into the void. Me, Insurrection. [01:03:51] Speaker A: I mean, I'm really not feeling this one. 1. It's fun to kind of. I don't know. Mark, you like this one? [01:03:58] Speaker D: I don't hate it. It's interesting. It's very poppy. It's very glossy. I like. The guitar parts are good. They have a little piano in there, so it's interesting. It's. It's obviously not a heavy song by any stretch of imagination. I don't hate it. I don't think I'd like it as much as from the Pinnacle to the Pit and Cersei. Is that how you say Cersei? Right. Yeah. I don't think I'd like it as much as those two. It's interesting thing. [01:04:19] Speaker A: Remember? Yeah. Or Cerise. [01:04:22] Speaker D: Cerise. I don't know. People probably yelling at me. All the ghost fans. Like where you. You don't know how to pronounce it. It's this. It's this. I don't know. I'm sorry. The time we start getting Latin in here, idiots. Yeah. Pronounce ghost. We're lucky we. We can pronounce ghost. [01:04:36] Speaker A: Well, I think it's actually Guast ghost. [01:04:42] Speaker D: We're hiding here inside a dream and all our doubts are now destroyed the guidance of the morning star Will lead the way into the void and then back to the chorus. It's just very uplifting. [01:04:54] Speaker A: Yeah, I'm sure people who worship Satan are like, hey, man. [01:04:59] Speaker D: All right, let's get into solo. Here we go. [01:05:26] Speaker A: It's funny. So the beginning of that solo reminded me a little bit of a Queen Drag song. Another Reading Night with that. And then it kind of went into the Eagles a little bit. And. Not that it sounded. I'm saying sounded exactly like that, but it was reminiscent, I think, of that. But I do think those first notes, it's a variation of that, of the beginning of that song. [01:05:46] Speaker D: It's just funny. Like, maybe that's where I heard that before. There's so many pieces. [01:05:50] Speaker C: Oh, wow. Yeah. You know, they just had that. So many sounds that you heard before. But, Sav, you just nailed this one. I think you nailed this one. [01:05:59] Speaker D: And think about it. We can't figure out where this stuff is from. We know we've heard things that are similar. Right. So he's doing a good job of injecting things in there that make you feel like you know this, but you're not sure where it comes from. [01:06:12] Speaker C: And that's genius. Right? Because they're not ripping anybody off. They're just taking elements of different sounds and making it their own. That sounds very familiar to the people. I like that. I really. I'm all of a sudden. Maybe be a ghost fan. [01:06:29] Speaker D: Oh, man. See? Crazy. I mean, it is sort of kind of genius if you can inject these things in here and have people feel that it's familiar and don't rip it off. [01:06:37] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah. And to me, that's their original sound. The fact that you can take other people's sound and mash it up in a way that sounds original, that makes it your personal sound. It makes it genius. Not too many people can do that, by the way. [01:06:52] Speaker D: Well, not without you going, hey, that's a ripoff. [01:06:54] Speaker C: Exactly. And no point so far have we said this is a ripoff from this band. Massive influence, but they made it their sound, which makes it original. [01:07:06] Speaker D: This band's from Sweden. That makes sense. There's a lot of metal. Ish. Kind of best. I mean, you do call it metal, though. I mean, you can, I guess, call it metal, but is it metal like Metal metal? Or is it like. I don't know. What kind of theatrical metal? Theatrical metal. [01:07:20] Speaker C: To me, it's more theatrical metal. I mean, just look at them, bro. They brought the drama just in their dress up. Maybe not their sound so much, but definitely the way they look. They brought a lot of drama. [01:07:30] Speaker D: I think he records most of this stuff. It's funny because on the Trisonnell listing, it's Papa Emeritus 3, which is Tobias Forge and the Nameless Ghouls. So everybody's nameless. So he says some of his influences are Susie and the Banshees, Kim Wilde, Rainbow Kiss, Motley Crue. [01:07:46] Speaker C: I definitely don't hear any Motley Crue in here. No Motley Crue in here. All I know is that I never heard them before. I knew who they were. I never heard the music before tonight. I'm starting to like them. [01:07:57] Speaker D: There's so much things they feel like, other things that it makes you feel like you've heard the song before because there's so many extra stuff in there. But it's okay. I'm okay with that, though. [01:08:04] Speaker A: I mean, if you're. If you're influenced by things and it creeps up in the music. I mean, I'm sure there was stuff in our music where people would have been like, oh, yeah, that sounds like this. Like that, like this. Whether we kind of noticed it or not, I'm sure. [01:08:15] Speaker D: All right, let's play this out. Here we go. [01:08:21] Speaker E: My cannot see Insurrection he is mine he's the focus that made me be he is he's the shining in the light without whom I cannot see. [01:08:46] Speaker A: Let. [01:08:46] Speaker E: This obedience that holds us together. [01:09:43] Speaker A: They do seem to do that a lot, though, right? The. That where they hold the cord and let the cord fade. I think I've heard that a couple times before. I like that end part. I think that's about it. [01:09:55] Speaker D: I like the melody at the end again. It's very poppy. I don't hate it. I don't think it's my favorite, but why don't you go first? [01:10:00] Speaker A: It's reminiscent to, like, an 80s ballad, I think, kind of. I'm trying to think of. I don't know if it's November Rain. I'm kind of like in that style of ballad. Maybe it's just the piano that's doing it, but I think the ambience of it. I do think the production on that one is better. God, I think I'm going to go fives across on this one. Man. I really wasn't feeling this one. [01:10:20] Speaker D: What do you think, oh, wow, that's rough, man. I'm gonna give it. [01:10:25] Speaker A: Well, listen, if. Hey, if we were three categories, we'd do 666 for everything. 666. The number of the Beast. [01:10:33] Speaker D: The number of the Beast. For lyrics, I'm gonna do five. Melody. I'm doing six. I like the melody a lot. Musicianship I thought was good. I'm gonna give that a 7. I really liked it. I like the things that they did in there. I like the solo. I like. I. I thought they did a good job. Arrangement, five. It's okay. And production. I give that a six. It's not horrible. It's not my most favorite on the side. It's not bad. [01:10:55] Speaker C: Frankie, you know, again, I really like this a lot. I'm gonna give it seven across. I really like the production, the music, the lyrics match to the music. Everything about it. I just. I really do like it a lot. So I'm giving a seven across. [01:11:07] Speaker A: It's groovy, man. It's quintuple. Seven. [01:11:10] Speaker D: Nikki titty baby. So what do we think? We like that we got this. I thought it was. It's a different thing. We don't really get too much in this time frame. Like 2010s. Anytime it comes up, I'm like, oh, maybe we're gonna hear something we haven't heard. I'm glad we got it. It. [01:11:22] Speaker A: Yeah, I was. I mean, I'm happy came up. I mean, I've heard so much about them, and again, I heard one record. This isn't it, though. I'm pretty sure this isn't it. They're talked about so much, and obviously they. They've been going for a while. Their live shows are pretty infamous. Liking it or not, I am glad that we got it. [01:11:38] Speaker D: I mean, you're not giving a horrible score, as you know. It's doing decent. [01:11:41] Speaker A: Yeah, it's okay. I don't. I don't know that I'd go back to this, though. [01:11:44] Speaker D: Not any song. You wouldn't put anything on the list. I even Pinnacle to the pit or. [01:11:47] Speaker A: I'm not missing anything. It's okay. They just. Meds immense. [01:11:53] Speaker D: I didn't like Pinnacle to the pit at the beginning either. The more I listened to it, the more I was like, oh, I really like this song. It's one of those things I had to listen to a bunch of times before. I was like, oh, okay, I get it. I didn't like them right away because I was like, oh, they're doing the makeup thing, you know, who they stealing from now as a kiss thing, Slipknot, Alice Cooper, whatever. But then I was like, oh, I mean, I gotta kind of not think like that. And I, you know, know, I like some of this stuff. I even like some of the newer stuff too. Not bad. I generally like it. And again, to me, this is a concept thing. [01:12:20] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, I, I was, I was expecting a little more theatrical sound than we got. The poster didn't match the movie kind of thing right now, you know, they have this big look and I was expecting a big theatrical kind of sound. Kind of like tool theatrics. And we didn't get that. We got more like a Seattle sound, pop top kind of thing so far. Which, by the way, I like. I think it's great. [01:12:45] Speaker D: I think it's very theatrical. Personally, I think super theater. [01:12:49] Speaker C: You think so? [01:12:50] Speaker D: I do. [01:12:50] Speaker C: Like, like. Okay, let me ask you this question. Like, if you compare this to gore theatrics or, I mean, they deliver in spades. You're gonna get theatrics out of them. Almost like a Rocky Horror Picture show kind of thing. [01:13:07] Speaker D: It's not like that kind of theatric, but it is theatrical. I mean, you couldn't say this is like straight ahead, non theatrical. There's no way. There's lots of theatrics that go in this. I mean, from their look to, you know, the message that they're trying to portray, whether that's real or being, you know, tongue in cheek or, you know, being other stuff. I think they're doing a good job at presenting what they're trying to present. And even though, you know, some of the music's a little heavier, his voice is so poppy. That kind of throws you off a little bit. [01:13:35] Speaker C: Yeah, exactly. It's like it's the Mike Tyson effect, right? Yeah, it's like, okay. [01:13:44] Speaker D: It's just the message is silly the way it's put together. Not silly and like, haha, silly. You know, you can't really take this for any more than being just shock. We're going to be the Church of Satan and. But we're going to take all this Catholic stuff and we're going to make it into the Church of Satan. It's just very fun, me. I mean, even their look. Do you ever see what he looks like during this time? He's got the robe, the pope robes on. [01:14:04] Speaker C: Well, all I want for the record to show for all the ghost fans. Mark called them silly, not me. [01:14:13] Speaker D: I think it's a good stick. It's a good stick. They got a good look. They got a message they're trying to push that would piss off parents. And really, if you think about it, that's what the rock and roll should be for. Your parents shouldn't like it it and. [01:14:27] Speaker C: Help you get a paycheck at the end of the day anyway. [01:14:31] Speaker D: Why don't you do your thing? [01:14:33] Speaker A: Yep. So we are part of the Deep Dive podcast network again, like I always say. Great bunch of guys took us in right away. If you want individual podcasts about bands, it's probably on there. You name it. Rush, Judas Priest, Tom Petty, Uriah Heap, Queen. So I mean check them out, man. And Mark, where can they find us. [01:14:51] Speaker D: On the interwebs Rock with lead pod on all the social media Rockwell podcast dot com. Please go there. We have album olds. You can leave a new bets for the wheel. If you want us to put an album on the wheel that's not there, you know, can submit it over there too. Please put us on the auto downloads because we release every Tuesday. And please give us five stars on wherever you listen to podcasts because that moves us up the algorithm and always works it out. So next week we get to finish this out. So it'll be exciting and then we'll get to spin again. We're glad you're on this journey with us of discovery and rediscovery. We will see you next week. [01:15:26] Speaker C: Thank you so much. Great show. [01:15:27] Speaker A: Ciao. [01:15:28] Speaker D: Later. [01:15:46] Speaker E: It.