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[00:01:03] Speaker B: Foreign.
[00:01:15] Speaker A: Welcome back to another episode of Rock Roulette Podcast. That's right, the crazy ass podcast that took over 1, 500 albums, stuck them in a list, stuck them in a wheel and typically every other week we spin the wheel. She picks a record for us and we go through it track by track. We talk about the music, the lyrics, the production, the melody and the arrangement and we rate it 1 out of 10. Again, just a bunch of friends who love music that wanted to do a podcast. And as always, we want to thank anybody who listens. Again, spread the word and talk to us. Tell us what you like, what you don't like. Maybe albums you'd want to hear. Listen, we can call Notable and pop anything we want to. So we really appreciate it. Want to reach out to everybody. Tonight we have a special. Technically two special things. One based on good news, one based on bad news. Recording this around the time of Ozzy Osbourne's death. So we are doing kind of a little bit of a tribute to him. Instead of having all 1500 albums in the wheel, we're actually just condensing and doing an Ozz solo wheel. We will be doing it as the album. We just don't know which one. That's the bad news, unfortunately. Obviously, you know, when it comes to metal, can't talk metal without Ozzy or Black Sabbath. They just had the show and again right after the show, a couple weeks later, he's gone. The good news is though, we do have a member that has not been on since, I believe, reading the lyrics of Social Disease in which he won a comment which in this business it's like winning a Grammy. First and foremost, we'd like to welcome back Steve.
[00:02:35] Speaker C: Steven, behave yourself.
[00:02:38] Speaker D: Steven, Beh yourself.
What up?
[00:02:54] Speaker A: As always, we have Frank.
[00:02:56] Speaker B: My name is Frank.
[00:03:03] Speaker A: And I'm sexy.
[00:03:11] Speaker C: Hello everybody.
[00:03:12] Speaker A: We have Mark. Oh hi Mark.
[00:03:14] Speaker E: What's up guys?
[00:03:15] Speaker A: And I'm Seth.
[00:03:15] Speaker D: Ciao Buenos Aires.
[00:03:17] Speaker A: Other than the Aussie thing. You're getting back to last week we finished off the debut album by Pretty Boy Floyd, which was a special treat for Frank since she mentions them in almost every episode and I think he was really trying to Jedi Mind trick Mark into loving it and swears that Mark gave it a whole bunch of sevens. But I'm pretty sure maybe one or two songs actually wound up on Mark's playlist for what it was. It's a genre. It is what it is. It was fun for the genre. Obviously the music matched the look. Without a doubt. It was an 89 record. So kind of toward the end of what was going on in that era. Again, Frank, I know I asked you last time, but just to reiterate, you still like it as much as you did? Yeah, yeah, I do.
[00:03:54] Speaker C: I mean, you know, to your point, listen, it is what it is. They did a very good job embracing who they are as a glam rock band, as Mark highlighted. Very well produced.
I personally like the music. I thought they did great in the musicianship department. The lyrics, it is what it is. So you're not expecting any life changing or any kind of song that's going to make you ponder on life. So I like Mark.
[00:04:16] Speaker E: Your final you tried to Jedi Mind trick me, but it didn't work. Listen, it is what it is. It's late 80s hair metal, pop, metal, whatever the fuck you want to call it. It was produced very well, can't go against that, and had decent arrangement and melodies and stuff. But you know, lyrics are bad. It was way more of a look thing than it was an actual music thing. I haven't changed that much, but I'm going to give them credit where credit is due. Production was great, I think through most of the thing. Unfortunately, you can't shine. That's just what it is.
[00:04:43] Speaker A: Can't shine a little bit. Not as good as I think Frankie made it out to sound that you complimented it, but it was fun to listen to. It's part of our past. Steve probably has no idea what the fuck we're talking about, but that's right, you missed the fun episode, Steve. But you know, no matter what, obviously we're glad to have you back, Steve, since you've been gone. We do have a new part of the podcast which we call the New Bets, which is a little baby wheel we call it, and it's got stuff that's been released pretty much within the last year, year and a half. We play the whole song and we check it a mark whenever you're ready.
[00:05:16] Speaker D: In a world where new music is not easy to find.
[00:05:22] Speaker B: Welcome to New bets.
[00:05:34] Speaker E: All right, so here's the new bets wheel. Here we go.
[00:05:49] Speaker A: Fame on Fire. And Sim chains the tower. Mark, any idea?
[00:05:55] Speaker E: I have no clue.
No clue. See, Steve, this is what we get. We get and we have no idea. Well, we're gonna find out.
[00:06:02] Speaker A: Now, Fame on fire is an American rock band from Palm Beach. Wow. They've been around since 2013. They do a lot of metal covers of pop and rap songs.
[00:06:12] Speaker E: All right, this is Fame on fire and sim the tower.
[00:06:32] Speaker B: I'm on a path you know what I'm thinking Cancel my thoughts subscribe to my demons I made up my mind no more deceiving I'm feeling the void Time to get even I just and move on Waited for so long the pain go beyond I can lie if I forget any sh.
Would I save us from this curse? Will we take to as and burn?
Do you think I make it worse?
All of my wage did I take it way too far?
With this c around my heart I know I be so if I buried all my pain ready to go to war what I was fighting for it is my purpose Cuz I become a prisoner of my insanity Mixed with the memories stuck in my head I don't know who I'm meant to be I cannot move on waiting oh so long Pain goes beyond if I forget these days Would I save us from this curse? Will we turn to our chamber?
Do you think we make it worse?
And with all of my rage Did I take you way too far?
With these guys around my heart I know from this curse will it burn? Do you think I make it worse?
And with all of my weight Did I take you back too far?
With these guys around my heart I know I'll be torn apart if I bury all night.
[00:09:24] Speaker A: As usual I will say I don't like the sound of the drums. There's parts of it that I do like. I like the heavier parts. I think if it stayed heavier the whole time, I'd appreciate it more as I appreciate screaming a little bit more now than I used to, believe it or not. It's okay. Steve, what do you think You're. You're new on the block here. What's. What do you think? I don't know.
[00:09:42] Speaker D: It sounded very. For the time, I guess heavy. I guess poppy heavy. Kind of mid 2000s thing that was going on. I don't know. Like that. That really heavy. And then the rest of the song, it didn't kind of mesh well. Or at least that's what it kind of seemed like to me. It kind of just seemed like it was thrown in there.
[00:09:59] Speaker A: Kind of refer to that stuff as boy band metal.
[00:10:02] Speaker D: Yeah.
[00:10:03] Speaker A: If that makes any sense. I think I would have appreciated more of this stuff earlier on where it would have sounded heavier to me.
Listening to heavier stuff recently that's like straight up heavy, like beginning to end stuff like this. It's not as heavy.
[00:10:18] Speaker D: No.
[00:10:18] Speaker A: I can almost speak for Mark, but we'll ask him anyway. Mark, what do you think?
[00:10:21] Speaker E: It's wannabe heavy. It has heavy guitar in it, but it's not heav all. Does that make any sense?
[00:10:26] Speaker A: Yeah, I figure. I thought you're going to just say stop.
[00:10:29] Speaker E: Well, that too. It's stock stuff. That was earlier on and it's continued now. It hasn't went away. They sing heavy. They can scream and do the scream thing, but then they do like a falsetto in the chorus. That just makes zero sense. It's for people who want heaviness but don't want heaviness.
You're right. It's boy band metal. I like that. Boy band metal is the name.
[00:10:47] Speaker A: Frank, what do you think?
[00:10:48] Speaker C: I'm not familiar with the group. Not sure what era they're from. When did you say they formed? One set. Did you mention that?
[00:10:53] Speaker A: I think they've been around since 2013. Apparently they've gained popularity by duo doing a lot of pop and rap covers. They had a big, I guess a version of hello by Adele that was popular.
[00:11:03] Speaker C: I was reading, saw a band this week or maybe during the weekend. It was called Pistol by Dawn. It's kind of like that sound, that early 2000, mid 2000s pop rock kind of the sound for what it is, that genre. I like this song for that. Is it something I would rock out to on repeat? Probably not. I don't hate it. Pretty good. The drums do sound manufactured a little bit. There's something about it that doesn't sound authentic. I don't know what it is. And how about the bass was in there some. It's.
[00:11:27] Speaker A: I don't know. I wasn't paying attention to the bass, honestly.
[00:11:30] Speaker C: Yeah, no, it just sounded very manufactured. Very manufactured.
[00:11:33] Speaker E: If you guys like it, let us know. If you don't like it, let us know. Let's put a rubber stamp on that. Here we go.
[00:11:39] Speaker D: In a world where new music is not easy to find, welcome to New Bets.
[00:11:56] Speaker A: We are doing a straight up Aussie solo wheel tonight. Before we get into it, I'm sure we all have some Kind of memory of when we first knew or heard about Ozzy. I want to say that I knew him as a solo artist before I knew he was in Black Sabbath. It was one of those, oh, he was the singer. Black Sabbath kind of deals. Crazy Train, I would say, over the Mountain, that stuff. At least I definitely remember that stuff being out before, like, Bark at the Moon came out and knowing about Randy Rhodes and what happened to him. So that was kind of my trajectory. And then learning that he was in Black Sabbath and obviously knowing Black Sabbath and maybe not putting two and two together at that point, because I don't even remember how old I was. Pretty young. We're all pretty young. Steve, what about you? What's your earliest memory of Ozzy?
[00:12:40] Speaker D: Earliest was probably like listening to Black Sabbath with my dad when I was younger. We used to go on fishing trips and things. And, you know, it would always be like either Black Sabbath, Led Zeppelin, Deep Purple, something like that. Yeah, that's when I first got introduced, when I was younger, five, six years old.
[00:12:58] Speaker A: Frank, what about you?
[00:12:59] Speaker C: My earliest recollection of seeing Ozzy, and I'm pretty sure, well, I definitely know it was at Mart's house and we were watching the Moscow Music Festival. Ozzy was on there, Malik was also there, Bon Jovi, Scorpions, and I forget who else there were a couple of bands, but that was the first time that I saw Ozzy's.
And it was maybe perhaps a few months later on that I got a CD player for my birthday. And it was my own CD player. And I went nuts. And I remember I connected it, got it up to my room, plugged it all in, and I went down to this record shop called Sam Goody. And I was like, okay, what's going to be my first cd? What am I going to buy? And the first CD that I bought was Ozzy. Diary of a Madman bought it and I just rocked it out. And the second CD that I bought behind that was no Rest for the Wicked. Believe it or not, those are the very first two CDs that I still have to this day in my collection. But those are the very first two. Rocked it out. And I think that's when I became an Aussie fan.
[00:13:51] Speaker A: Mark, what about you?
[00:13:52] Speaker E: I think, like you, I think I heard his solo stuff before I heard Black Sabbath, I think. I don't remember, but I remember Crazy Train. I remember the Randy Rhodes stuff. So that's kind of where I came in. I was never a gigantic Ozzy fan. I became more of an Aussie fan. I think later on than I was back in the day. But yeah, I think it was more solo stuff that I heard first. And then obviously we played Black Sabbath stuff in the band then. I kind of knew that. But I think, you know, being 12, 11, whatever, when, you know, seeing the IM magazines of him with a bat in his mouth and all that kind of stuff, I think it was solo stuff before it was Black Sabbath.
[00:14:27] Speaker A: And obviously he has a history of having amazing guitar players. Randy Rose, Jakey Lee, Zach Wilde. Good musicians behind him, obviously, on drums as well and bass. Been surrounded by talent for his whole career, without a doubt. And I have to say, out of. Since we do have the solo albums, I did think about, oh, what would I like? And I think I would like something I haven't heard. I haven't heard a lot of. Of his stuff past no More Tears. I would say that's something that I would appreciate listening to. Something that I haven't heard before. Mark, what would you like?
[00:14:58] Speaker E: I don't really know. I would like to have any of it, actually. And one hand. I'd like to have no Rest for the Wicked, maybe because I like that record. I remember liking that when that came out. Then again, do I want Randy Rhodes stuff? So the first couple of things from Randy Rhodes would be great. And then, like you, I would say, hey, maybe I would like something new that I haven't heard that he's done the last ten years or so. So I'm up for anything. Whatever comes up, I'm going to be good with.
[00:15:18] Speaker A: Frank, what about you? Do you want something familiar, unfamiliar?
[00:15:21] Speaker C: Getting Ozzy is like pizza. No matter what it is, you take it because it's great. Given a choice, I love to hear no Rest for the Wicked, something I haven't heard in a long while. Probably like Osmosis. I only heard that one and I don't remember much of it.
[00:15:34] Speaker A: And Steve, what about you?
[00:15:35] Speaker D: Kind of want to hear something I haven't heard? Something new? Yeah, maybe just because I've heard all the other things before and I need something new.
[00:15:43] Speaker C: How many solo did he put out? Not including the live stuff?
[00:15:46] Speaker E: 12. All right, well, here's the wheel. All right, here we go. Here is the whee.
[00:15:54] Speaker B: In.
And it's the ultimatum.
Did you just say Ozzy Osborne?
[00:16:08] Speaker A: Cool. Osmosis it is.
[00:16:11] Speaker C: Shut up.
[00:16:13] Speaker A: Well, I'll be honest with you, Frank. I've never heard this one.
[00:16:15] Speaker C: Yeah, Osmosis, it's one of those albums I heard once.
[00:16:18] Speaker A: I probably know one or two songs from here, but I Don't think I know the rest of it.
[00:16:22] Speaker E: This is 1995. Five personnel on this are Ozzy Osbourne vocals, Zakk Wild, guitar, Geezer Butler, bass, and Dean Castronova on drums. It's pretty long. And there's long songs. I mean, six minutes, six minutes, four minutes. There's nothing under 450. It's a lot of songs. Perry Mason's on here. I've heard that. And maybe I might have heard one other one, but I don't think I've ever heard the whole album. Straight through.
[00:16:44] Speaker A: Oh, see you on the other side is on here. That's popular.
[00:16:46] Speaker E: Yeah, that was written with Lemmy. Let's do this. This is for Ozzy Osbourne. This is Per.
[00:18:00] Speaker B: On his way to dinner. When he took him by surprise and we won't pull out the trigger he would vanish overnight Dancing by the roadside holding up on the light Then a gun from out of nowhere May the winner of his wife Way out of mind Single mile down the way and I feel my friend over and over again who. Can we get our case?
We?
Yes. I want to put you in place.
[00:19:14] Speaker A: Is a mirror as a production, a little muffled. I don't know if it's the way it's coming through on my headphones. Tones. It's not crisp sounding. I could be wrong. I mean, obviously, I definitely remember this song. And this was definitely played on the radio. This and the ballad. I remember that.
[00:19:27] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:19:28] Speaker E: It's a little bass heavy, but not like bass guitar heavy. It's just very bassy.
[00:19:32] Speaker A: Like, drums sound a bit muffled to me. They're not really crisp. I like the timing that they're doing is a little bit of an off time. I think I like it better now than when it came out. But, yeah, just that production's a little bit.
[00:19:43] Speaker D: I was kind of just rocking along it, to be honest, so I wasn't really paying attention to anything. I was just kind of reading the lyrics.
[00:19:50] Speaker A: You remember it, though, right, the song?
[00:19:52] Speaker D: Oh, yeah, for sure.
[00:19:53] Speaker C: I think you're right. It sounds a little muffled. I mean, you hear all the instrument, you hear everything going, but it just sounds a little bit muffled.
[00:20:00] Speaker E: Yeah. And that's Rick Wakeman playing the melotron on that. And this is produced by Michael Beinhorn. Red Hot Chili Peppers Sound, Garden Hole Corn, Marilyn Manson. I don't know why it sounds a little muffled unless it's just a time frame. It's not really Loudness wars yet, so I don't know why. Steve, why don't you read some lyrics? I'M so happy Steve's here. He can read lyrics now. I wish you were here last week and the week prior so I didn't have to read fucking Pretty Boy Floyd lyrics.
[00:20:24] Speaker D: So sorry.
On his way to dinner when it took him by surprise and with one pull of the trigger he would vanish overnight Dancing by the roadside holding on for dear life Then a gun from out of nowhere Made him a widow of his wife I don't mind Single file down the Runway Feeling fine and I'll see you, my friend over and over again who can we get on the case? We need Per Mason. Someone to put you in place Calling Perry Mason again Again I always wondered.
[00:20:54] Speaker E: Why he wrote a song about Perry Mason. When I heard the song, I'm like, why is he writing about a TV show detective?
[00:20:59] Speaker A: Well, I mean, apparently they had the riff and he just started mouthing lyrics about Perry Mason, and it kind of went there. I guess they kept it.
[00:21:05] Speaker D: Oh, okay.
[00:21:06] Speaker E: That sounds about right.
[00:21:07] Speaker B: What would they own, man?
[00:21:09] Speaker E: But didn't Geezer Butler write most of the lyrics for Sabbath?
[00:21:12] Speaker A: Yeah, my understanding, Gizzy wrote a lot of it.
[00:21:14] Speaker E: He only writes one song, I think, on this album. That's it. Or two Ger Butler rights. I'm sorry, two. Ozzy Osbor's writing everything here, too, which he didn't really do in Sabbath at all. So we'll see how those go so far. I mean, guitar playing is good, obviously. Zach Wild's going to be good. And the guitar sounds a little weird to me, too. It's not as upfront as I think it would be.
[00:21:31] Speaker A: No, I feel it's buried in the production as well.
[00:21:33] Speaker E: Yeah, his voice sounds great, though.
[00:21:35] Speaker D: Yeah, for sure. Sounds good.
[00:21:36] Speaker E: All righty, let's continue. Here we go.
[00:21:43] Speaker B: See it on their faces how they love the wind to blow Minding my own business like my mama always said but if I don't try to help them they could wind up on the front face I don't mind Draw the line and draw me an arrow Feeling quiet See you, my friend over and over again who can we get on again?
Someone to point to again in wake me when it over Tell me it's all right Just keep on talking, baby I've been doing this all night how much did you give me? Tell me be all right.
[00:23:18] Speaker A: I didn't mind the production as much as that. I don't know if I just kind of got used to it or it wasn't as bad, but it was better. That's. Oh, yeah. Not a bad song.
[00:23:25] Speaker E: What I noticed. I Think that in the verses, it feels like the guitar is so eating up all the frequencies of the bass. You don't even hear the bass until that part, which is super cool bass part too, by the way. I can imagine what really is playing behind there. You can't really hear it whatever reason. The guitar is just sucking all the frequencies up up there. I think that's why it kind of sounds a little muddy, because the bass is kind of hidden on the verses anyway. And the chorus until it gets to that part.
[00:23:46] Speaker D: Yeah, I kind of agree with you on that. I was starting to listen a little more to the music rather than just rock out to it. And I was noticing, like, the guitar is not up front. There's no bass to be found except for that one part. And then the drums are a little. You know what it is. But there's something with the drums that overall still.
[00:24:03] Speaker C: So far, I'm with you guys. Production is. I don't know. There's something off about it. Very muffled.
I was kind of rocking out a little bit. Kind of like that little breakdown there. But, hey, listen, it's still Aussie, still good. It just sounds a little weird, that's all.
[00:24:15] Speaker E: Steve.
[00:24:15] Speaker D: Lyric time Riding painted horses oh, the kids, they love it so you can see it on their faces how they love the wind to blow Minding my own business like my mom always said, if I don't try to help them, they could wind up on the front page I don't mind Draw the line Then draw me an arrow Feeling fine and I'll see you, my friend over and over again who can we get on the case? We need Harry Mason. Someone put you in your place Calling Perry Mason Again Again Wake me when it's over Tell me it's all right Just keep talking, baby I've been doing this all night how much did you give me? Tell me it'll be all right.
[00:24:52] Speaker A: I have no idea.
It sounds like the first one talks about murder or whatever and made a widow out of his wife. I'm like, okay. And then it kind of goes into this other stuff, and I have no idea if it's in relation to anything in the books or the show. I'm saying, like. Like, wait, what? What the hell are you saying now? What do you need Perry Mason for? I think you need Perry Mason to playing the lyrics.
[00:25:13] Speaker E: Maybe in the second verse. Riding, painting horses. Or the kids, they love it. So that means that's a carousel. Painted horses, the kids are riding it. Then it says, you can see it on their faces. How they love the wind to blow when you're going around. You get that fast wind, and then maybe they're minding their own business. Mom always said if I. Yeah, maybe about kids getting abducted or something. Maybe.
[00:25:32] Speaker A: Yeah, I guess so. I think the problem was I kind of wasn't really paying attention when he was singing and when Steve was saying it.
So I guess it makes a little bit more sense. Sorry, Steve.
[00:25:42] Speaker D: It's okay.
[00:25:43] Speaker E: All right, so here we go. Zack Wild. I'm gonna back it up because I think I want to play that bass part again. Here we.
[00:25:58] Speaker B: All.
Sam.
[00:26:52] Speaker A: I actually like. The party was playing over when Ozzy came back on. Then the. So not that the solo was bad, but it's kind of tame. I felt a bit tame. And then he did that really cool thing, that boom, boom o.
[00:27:02] Speaker E: Once Ozzy came back in, comparatively to last week's solos. This thing eats those things alive.
A really good guitar player obviously plays good solos. You don't get bored. You don't go, well, maybe that doesn't fit the song. He knows exactly what he's doing. He's a great guitar player. If you had to listen to stuff, you would rather listen to this. I'm not saying it's my favorite Zack Wild thing that he's ever done, but it was great. Fits. The song has a middle beginning and. And he knows exactly where he's going, exactly what he's playing. I thought it was great. Yeah.
[00:27:32] Speaker D: I kind of started, like, noticing at the end, the change in the riff. I could hear the bass better. It was kind of weird. I don't know if anyone picked up on that. That's that end riff that they were playing through at the solo, it kind of sounded like the bass just like, you know, I don't know. I noticed it better. I don't know why. Maybe they did that because of the solo. They were trying to mute down the guitar a little and keep the bass going, but definitely heard it better. That was also, like, a classic one. Zack Wild solo.
[00:27:55] Speaker C: Zak Wild. Of course. He's a great guitarist for his genre. Just like Crash was good. His genre.
Love the Solo 100%. It's just something about Zach. He just knows exactly what to play to fit character with the song. It's just. He knows how to arrange it, how to put it together. It's just really great to hear.
[00:28:19] Speaker E: All right, let's finish this up. We got about a minute. Here we go.
[00:28:29] Speaker B: Jesus.
I want to put you in place again.
[00:29:24] Speaker A: Perry Mason by Ozzy Osbourne. It's A good lead off track. Bad.
[00:29:29] Speaker D: Yeah.
[00:29:29] Speaker E: I thought it was pretty good to start it off. Who wants to go first?
[00:29:32] Speaker A: I think Steve should go first.
[00:29:34] Speaker E: Steve hasn't done the new ratings in a little bit, so someone else should go first.
[00:29:37] Speaker A: Oh, that's right. You gotta pay attention, Steve. So Frank can go first.
[00:29:41] Speaker C: I'm gonna give this lyrics. Melody. I'm gonna give sixes just because I just don't know the direction of the song. Everything else I'm gonna give sevens again. The guitar playing could have been a little bit better. Overall, I like it a lot. Seth.
[00:29:55] Speaker A: I'm going to say five on the lyrics, a five on the production, six on the music, six on the melody, and a six on the arrangement. Not a bad song. I think I do like it better now than I did before though. That's a good thing. Mark.
[00:30:08] Speaker E: I like the lyrics a lot. I'm gonna give them a six. Melody was pretty good. I'll give that a six. Musicianship. I'll give a seven because I like Zach Wild. I think he did a great job. Even think the drums were really good. There was some cool stuff in the solo that Dean Ca was doing and the bass breakdown was pretty good. So I like that. I think it was arranged well. 7. I'm going to ding production to 6 because I think it's a little muffled. I'm wondering if it's just the single mix. Maybe it'll get different on the next song. I don't know. Steve.
[00:30:31] Speaker D: All right, so you might have to walk me through this side of things here. Lyrics. I'm going to say a five, only because I don't know who the hell Perry Mason is. I'll say a six. Those are right. Musicianship. I'll say seven. Solid song to start out. Classic Zack Wild solo riff. Everything. Production, I'll probably say it. We'll say six too, because there was some points where it didn't sound as good as it should. Muffle than bas not being there in a lot of. It's probably say six on the arrangement wasn't bad, but that would be a little better.
[00:31:01] Speaker E: I think it was a good start.
[00:31:02] Speaker D: It's definitely a good opener.
[00:31:04] Speaker E: The next one is I just want you. This is Ozzy Osbourne and Jim Valance. This should be interesting. Here we go.
[00:31:21] Speaker B: There are no unlockable doors There are no unwinnable wars There are no unrightable wrongs or unsinkable songs There are no unbeatable odds There are no believable gods There are no unnamable names Shall I Say it again yeah There are no impossible dreams There are no invisible things each night when the day is true I don't ask much I just want you I just want you.
[00:32:17] Speaker A: The production is out on this, too. The drums sound weird, especially the bass drum in the beginning. I tell you, Mark, you may not hear, but I hear something. I hear Ace Fraley singing this. I feel like he's channeling Ace Freely with the way he's singing this. I can almost hear him. I want. Yeah, like that.
[00:32:35] Speaker E: I don't think his vocals are as good in this one as they were in the one prior.
[00:32:38] Speaker C: No.
[00:32:38] Speaker D: But I will say the. The guitar and the bass are a little better mixed on this one. That might be only because as like, just looking out. Whatever.
[00:32:46] Speaker E: Yeah. Maybe it wants to be first or second Ozzy album, though. The keyboard and stuff. That's what kind of gave me that when it came in. Oh, this could be something. That sounded very early Ozzy.
[00:32:56] Speaker A: Yeah. I haven't always been a fan of his slower stuff, like the ballads and things. Okay. I'm not completely judging it yet. Kind of want to keep going and see where it goes and how it comes in with the second part, hopefully with the drums underneath and everything.
[00:33:09] Speaker C: I don't know about this one so much. I think Mark is right. Trying to be a little bit early here. The vocals, I don't know. Sounds a little bit. We. Let's see how it goes the rest of the way.
[00:33:17] Speaker E: Steve, read him out.
[00:33:19] Speaker D: There are no unlockable doors There are no unwinnable wars There are no unrightable wrongs or singable songs There are no unbeatable odds There are no believable gods There are no unnameable names Shall I say it again, Yale? There are no impossible dreams There are no invisible dreams each night when a day is through I don't ask my much I just want you so I.
[00:33:44] Speaker E: Don'T know exactly what he's trying to say there.
[00:33:46] Speaker D: I don't know where he's going yet.
[00:33:47] Speaker E: Well, let's see. Here we go.
[00:33:59] Speaker B: There are no one criminal grinds There are no one run There are no identical grains of but keep it within There no incubators There no unkillable thrill One thing and you know it's true I don't ask much I just want you I just want you I just want you you I just want you I'm sick and tired of being sick and tired I used to go the highest yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah I think I buy myself some plastic water I guess I should have met We.
[00:35:07] Speaker A: I actually think his voice sounds the best right there in that last part. I feel like he's giving it a little bit more. The other stuff is monotone on purpose. So I do kind of like that last part a little bit better.
[00:35:19] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:35:20] Speaker D: I don't know. I still don't know if I'm feeling it. I remember listening to this way back when. I was kind of on the fence about it and still kind of. I don't know.
[00:35:28] Speaker C: It's okay. Guitar playing for me is what's saving it right now. In the bass.
[00:35:32] Speaker A: I wasn't even hearing the bass.
[00:35:33] Speaker E: I think that's gonna be the best part of the song. I do like his vocals on that last part. I think whatever key that's in for him is better than the other key is. Maybe the other one's too low and it just doesn't sound right. It sounds weird. As far as the bass goes, I'm having a hard time hearing it even here. I mean, it's there, but it's not mixed very well or it's not in the right range of frequencies. Other things have to be taking it up because you can barely hear it. I'm trying to listen, but it's hard to tell.
[00:35:55] Speaker A: Overall production, it's not that great. Great. Again, very muffled.
[00:35:58] Speaker E: Yeah. I don't understand that. He's a good producer, too. I don't get it. I've never heard this song, so I have nothing to compare this to. I've never heard this back in the day. I want to like all Ozzy stuff, but I don't know if that's possible.
[00:36:09] Speaker C: Maybe it's just the copy that you're playing.
[00:36:11] Speaker E: Well, I mean, this is the expanded edition. I don't know. This is the only one that's out there that I can get. Have they done something to it? I don't know.
[00:36:17] Speaker A: First he bust your balls about Ping. Pretty Boy Floyd. Now he's saying you're playing the wrong version.
[00:36:22] Speaker E: It's all my fault. I get it.
[00:36:24] Speaker A: Schisms.
[00:36:26] Speaker E: Here we go. Guitar solo. Zack Wild saved the day. Let's see.
[00:36:49] Speaker B: Sam.
[00:37:19] Speaker A: I think it fit the song. I think the only problem is, though, it comes in so loudly, which technically isn't bad, but just because I feel everything else gets buried during the rest of the song. It jumps out so much. You fit the song. I don't know. Mark, what do you think?
[00:37:32] Speaker E: I liked it. I like that he was using a Leslie rotating speaker. Was pretty cool. I think it's the best part of the song. Tells you that. And the part right before the solo, for me at least right now, there were some interesting things going on behind the solo. That was cool, too. I'm still having trouble hearing bass, the mic, what happens kind of along with.
[00:37:47] Speaker D: The lines of it to the song. Probably the best part of the song that was kind of listening to some of the music behind the solo. And like you said, the bases and early there could be a little better.
[00:37:59] Speaker C: Like you guys are just pointing out the guitar playing is what really saving the song for me. I don't know. I guess I was expecting something different. His vocals sounded better as the song progressed, but I don't think this is a great fit for his vocal style.
[00:38:11] Speaker E: Makes sense to me. That's what I'm thinking. Steve, why don't you read the second verse? I know I skipped that on you.
[00:38:15] Speaker D: There are no uncriminal crimes There are no unbreakable rhymes There are no identical twins or forgivable sins There are no incurable ills There are no killable thrills One female that's true I don't ask much. Chorus. I'm sick and tired of being sick and tired I used to go bed so high and wired yeah, yeah, yeah I think I'll buy myself some plastic water I guess I should have married Lennon's daughter. Yeah. I still don't know. Effects.
[00:38:45] Speaker A: I think one of the issues, too, is that during the verses, he has that effect on his voice. And that last one, I don't think he had it. I think that could be why, to me, in general, it sounds better, ultimately, what he's saying in the song, there's things are hopeless. I don't care about these things. I just want you yeah, that's what it sounds like to me.
[00:39:02] Speaker E: I think you're right. Let's continue.
[00:39:09] Speaker B: Soul There are no indisputable truth and there ain't no fighting of you each night when the dead I don't ask much I just want you I just want you you I just want you I just want you I just want you I just want you I just want you I just want you I just want you I just want you Hey.
I just want you I just want you.
[00:40:42] Speaker A: Some of the lyrics are hopeful. Some of them are unhopul, I guess, kind of looking back.
But again, I guess at the end of it, I think again, all he's saying is no matter what to say is good or bad, I just want you to. I think his vocals got better as well. That last verse, he sang it like the other one. And I think the chorus going out. His voice was really good, too. Steve's got to read the last. Whatever that last thing was.
[00:41:03] Speaker D: There are no achievable goals There are no unsalable souls no legitimate kings or queens. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. There are no indisputable truths and there are no fountains each night when the day is through I don't ask much, no matter what.
[00:41:20] Speaker E: I'm a little upset that the production's so sucky.
[00:41:22] Speaker A: Yeah, Production's off it, but I'll go first.
[00:41:24] Speaker E: Five on the lyrics. Lyrics, six on the melody, six on the music, six on arrangement, and five on production. I don't like this one as much, and I haven't heard it as much, so maybe it'll grow on me the more I listen to it. And, you know, since he's passed away, you would like to say everything is great. He's done. I don't think any artist, everything they do is great. And especially an album like this, which is. We didn't really say anything about this. Is smack dab in the middle of grunge or at the tail end, I guess, because Cobain died in. 94. Is 95. It sold double platinum. It's great.
[00:41:51] Speaker A: Oh, wow.
[00:41:51] Speaker E: In that time frame frame where all the grunge stuff was added. That's a good thing.
[00:41:55] Speaker A: Well, yeah. Like I said, at least two of these songs were definitely played on the radio in the middle of whatever was getting played. I know that for sure.
[00:42:01] Speaker E: Yeah.
[00:42:01] Speaker A: I don't know. Maybe that's what the production is in response to kind of that muddiness.
[00:42:05] Speaker E: I don't know. Not good, Muddy. No, sad. Why don't you go next?
[00:42:08] Speaker A: Lyrics. Okay. I'm trying to think if they're better than the ones before. They're not bad. But some of this stuffy strings around is.
Yeah. I'll say five in the lyrics, a five on the melody, a six on the music, a five on production, and a six on arrangement. I don't think it's a terrible song, although those scores are whatever. Something better there. But it kind of didn't come out. I felt. I mean, I'd probably listen to this again, though. I think I'd listen to both of them again. This isn't a case where the score is alone. I'm like, I'm never going back. This. Probably go back to this at some point, you know. Let me check this out again, Frank.
[00:42:40] Speaker C: I'm gonna give lyrics a five melodies a five. The music again. You know, you have Zach in there. So the music is Always gonna be around the 7 range of plus. So I'm gonna give that a 7 production. I'm gonna give it a 5. An arrangement of 5. I think there's a better fitting song for Ozzy somewhere, and this is not it, Mark.
[00:42:58] Speaker D: I might just give this one fives across the board and kind of like with everyone else, if it wants to be something better, there could be something better. Just not there.
[00:43:08] Speaker E: Okay. The next song is Ghost Behind My Eyes. Ozzy Osborne, Steve Dudas, Mark Hudson. Who's Mark Hudson? The Hudson brothers. He worked with a bunch of people. Share, Ringo Star, Aerosmith, Azie Hansen. So I don't know what we're going to get out of this. Yeah, Hanson. That's always good.
[00:43:26] Speaker D: Hanson.
[00:43:29] Speaker E: Bop. All right, here we go. Ghost behind my eyes.
[00:43:45] Speaker B: There is a person living in my head she comes to visit every night in bed I fight the demon but it just won't fall the voice is in my dungeon starting to call this fight is dancing on the wall so inside of love we could have had it all and it is you, you are the ghost behind my eyes I d you, you are the ghost behind my eyes the ghost.
[00:44:56] Speaker A: There'S so much effect on the guitar. Guitar. There's just so much. It's just so muddled. And there's kind of a Beatlesque quality to it. But he doesn't get that melody the way they would, I think.
[00:45:09] Speaker E: I don't hate the effect on the guitar. I don't think that's where the problem is. I think his vocals are decent. It's more in his range. There's not that weird effect on it. But I think you're right. I think he's trying for a Beatles kind of thing. And maybe it'll pull me back. Coming after the next verse and chorus. I don't hate it. I don't. I think I like this better than the last one. Personally.
[00:45:27] Speaker A: It's.
[00:45:28] Speaker D: Right. I'm kind of getting a melody of something else. It might be another track on this album that's later on, but I don't know. But I'm getting a melody that I've heard from all of you before.
[00:45:39] Speaker C: I hear the Beatle list kind of vibes in there, but I don't know. I'm not digging it so far.
[00:45:45] Speaker E: I gotta say one thing. At least I can hear a little bit more bass in the song.
[00:45:48] Speaker D: I wasn't even paying attention to that. Now I have to.
[00:45:51] Speaker A: Neither was I. I heard Geezer Butler.
[00:45:53] Speaker E: In the back there a little bit. It wasn't where I would like it to be as far as in the mix, but at least I heard something. All right, Steve, why don't you do Lyrics?
[00:46:00] Speaker D: There's a person living in my head she comes to visit me every night in bed I fight the demon but it just won't fall the voices in my dungeon start to call the spiders dancing on the wall. Suicide of love we could have it all and it is you. You're the ghost behind my eyes I can't see through you you were the ghost behind my eyes. Lies the ghost that tells me lies.
[00:46:22] Speaker E: Drugs maybe.
[00:46:23] Speaker D: I don't know.
[00:46:24] Speaker E: I don't know where he was in his sobriety.
[00:46:26] Speaker A: He was okay. I mean, he's. I think once he did no more tears, he kind of. I listen, I don't know. I don't know everything that went on in his life, but I know obviously he thinned out a lot for no more tears. I don't think he ever really gained it back, at least from that standpoint. Obviously he had issues. And I mean, obviously you abuse your body that much, I think there's always going to be ghosts left behind.
[00:46:47] Speaker E: Ghost behind his eyes, Eyes, nose, mouth, lots of teeth. All right, here we go. Let's continue.
[00:46:56] Speaker B: The princess of the dark has made my mind home My haunted head and her only be enough she dances on my heart with fire in my soul.
I hate that feeling when I'm losing control.
The spiders dancing on the wall Suicide of love we could have let it out and it's you you are the ghost behind in my eyes I d you you are the ghost behind my eyes the ghost that tells me light I wish to God that I could sleep again oh peace again and wake up from this nightmare Me again, free again oh me again.
Sam There is a woman living in my head she comes to visit every night.
[00:49:21] Speaker A: I mean, no offense. If I didn't have to listen to this whole song on this podcast, I would have skipped this already. Me personally. Personally, I mean, this isn't hitting me at all. Like I said, I would probably go back to the first two at least to say, hey, you know, these weren't too bad. Let me see if I like them more now or or less. But this one, I just find it boring.
[00:49:38] Speaker E: Do is okay. I mean, I understand the very repetitive nature of the song. It wants to be something that it can't be. It's definitely Beatles inspired. I know Beatles are a big influence on him. Not surprising he wanted to try to do something like this, but I get it if this doesn't really do anything for you. I mean, it's not the greatest thing in the world for me. I thought I liked it more than the second one. Maybe not that much.
[00:49:58] Speaker C: I'm not too sure I would sav on that one. I would have skipped this already. I just not digging it one bit.
[00:50:04] Speaker D: Yeah, kind of. With the rest of us, it's kind of just. I do hear what you're saying with the beetle thing and the base, but it's. I don't know, it's kind of just forgettable. Skippable.
[00:50:15] Speaker E: Why don't you read the lyrics up until where we're at?
[00:50:17] Speaker D: The prince of darkness has made mind home My haunted head and her won't leave me alone. She dances on my heart with fire in my soul. I hate that feeling when I'm losing control. Got a chorus.
And then I wish to God that I could sleep again oh, peace again and wake up from this nightmare. Free again, free again, me again There's a woman living in my head. She comes to visit me every night in bed. Horus.
[00:50:42] Speaker E: And the more I hear this, the more I think it's a drug reference.
[00:50:44] Speaker D: Yeah, I'm thinking that too.
[00:50:46] Speaker E: I didn't find anything about where he was as far as his sobriety goes in 95, so I don't really know. The last thing I saw was he came back from the Moscow Peace Festival. He tried to choke Shek and Osborne after he was all drugged out from that concert.
[00:50:58] Speaker D: Amazing.
[00:50:59] Speaker E: Yeah. And that's the last thing that's in there until 2003. So I don't know what's happened between 89 and 2003. Maybe he was clean and this is just a reflection back of how he felt. All right, let's finish it up. Here we go.
[00:51:21] Speaker B: Now.
And it is you, you are the ghost behind my eyes.
You, you are the ghost behind my eyes?
You, you are by the ghost behind my eyes.
Behind my eyes.
The behind my eyes there goes behind the go behind in my eyes.
[00:52:29] Speaker A: I can appreciate the sentiment there, but as a song, no me gusta, no mi piacha.
[00:52:36] Speaker E: Oh, you can go first.
[00:52:37] Speaker A: Then I'm gonna say four across.
I'll say a five. On the production, maybe because production is not terrible. I do think that the guitar is oversaturated for. With me for effects, it kind of loses itself. I wasn't a fan of that song at all, Steve.
[00:52:52] Speaker D: Yeah, I think I'm gonna mirror you on that. I wasn't a big fan of it. Didn't like it.
Like I said, it kind of reminded me of Other melodies I've heard in either Ozzy Osborne songs. So that's what I kind of kept on like thinking of what song is that this? Or where have I heard this before rather than actually paying attention to this one.
[00:53:12] Speaker E: Mark, I'm gonna do very similar. I'm gonna do fives across. I didn't think the lyrics were that bad. I thought I liked it better than the second song. But the more I listen to it, I do feel that it's very boring. And I don't hate the effects like Savino hates. I don't hate that. It may be a little bit too wet in the effect area. That could have been a little toned down. But I can see why it would get a little frustrating listening to this. I probably wouldn't go back to this.
[00:53:34] Speaker C: Frank giving it fives just because it's odds I would have skipped this song already. There's nothing about it that I'm really liking or digging or even understand the context or anything like that.
[00:53:44] Speaker E: Next song is Thunder Underground. Ozzy Osbourne, Geezer Butler and Zach Wilde. I'm having higher hopes for this and see what happens. Here we go.
[00:54:00] Speaker B: Sam.
Compromising, self centered, patronizing your image supersede your soul you find it misdying some human so annoying you can have me under control oh, you believe you need forever you don't find that profile you won't be when you hear thunder underground.
All right, now.
[00:55:42] Speaker A: That intro reminded me a little bit of Once. The buildup was coming of We Die Young by Alex K and Chained. I like the music better overall. I don't like the fact that he's singing it so high. I think if he would have been lower, it would have served the song better. Digging the music and I think the production on this one's a little bit better as well.
[00:55:59] Speaker E: I don't hate the highness of his vocals. It is at the top of his range though, which is kind of funny. He has that little delay thing. I'm gonna start calling it the Aussie delay. We're at the end of the line. That always does that one repeat thing. He did that in Sabbath. He's done that earlier stuff that he's done. And you can definitely tell that Geezer Butler is helping writing for this because it's much better. And they got right now. That was definitely a nod back to the Sabbath. I like this much better than last song.
[00:56:24] Speaker D: I'm digging this verse a lot better. It sounds almost like is this when you started Black Label Society kind of time? That's what it's Kind of given vibes of. Or at least that's what I'm feeling, at least. Overall, good, better. Although I don't know with the vocals, I guess with the. Maybe the high, but also like the effect. I don't know if I'm a big fan of them. It's definitely better than the rumor.
[00:56:45] Speaker C: Yeah, Steve, I'm with you. It sounds a little bit like early version of Black Label for sure. You hear sound in there a lot better than the previous song. Sure. And forward to the rest of it.
[00:56:54] Speaker E: D why don't you do lyrics?
[00:56:56] Speaker D: Your thoughts are compromising, self centered, patronizing your image supersedes your soul you find your mystifying subhuman so annoying you can't have me under control you think you live forever? You don't find that profound? You won't think you're so clever when you hear thunder underground.
[00:57:14] Speaker E: All right, now I have a question, Savino, we haven't talked about drumming here at all. Do you think he's the right drummer for this?
[00:57:20] Speaker A: I think that Dean Cashova can play anything. I don't think he's doing a bad job. I think in general, the production is to me where this is suffering more than anything. I don't think his drumming is bad. They did some cool things, especially in the first one. He's played with Journey, he's played with bad English, he's played with Marty Friedman, he's played with a bunch of people. He can do anything. In a situation like this, if you're, let's say you're like, like his drumming, you probably say, okay, well what could and couldn't he do?
[00:57:47] Speaker E: I don't think his drumming is bad. I just wonder if he was the right choice for this. I don't think anything he's doing is really bad. I just don't know if some of the things he's doing fit this correctly. And I'm not saying it's his fault whatsoever. I'm just saying there might have been a better choice.
[00:58:00] Speaker C: I think it's by design. It's not playing to his strength. I don't think he had really much say in what gets jammed in there. That's what it sounds like. It's just here we need a drummer. Go.
[00:58:09] Speaker A: Because he's a great drummer.
[00:58:12] Speaker E: Oh yeah, I know that. I'm not disparaging his drumming.
[00:58:15] Speaker A: Oh yeah. I mean, I understand what you're saying. Just wondering how much of it was, hey, here's what you can do. Because especially in this, he's really. I would say he's a hired hand.
[00:58:23] Speaker E: Oh, yeah. I wonder, did he tour with him though for the Osmosis store? I wonder.
[00:58:27] Speaker A: I don't remember his name being associated with Ozzy. I don't know if where he was in his career at this point.
[00:58:32] Speaker E: Yeah, no clue. Let's continue. Here we go.
[00:58:45] Speaker B: Point of view.
This statement of illusion confirms your self illusion.
And after all this could be you.
You.
Yeah.
You don't find that profound?
You won't be just a.
When you hit Under Underground.
Here we go.
From the pain.
[01:00:24] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean, the vocals are bothering me in this song.
It's just. I feel like it's at that tip of his range. Me personally, he's not hitting it and I don't understand because the song is so low like that and he can sing in that range. And I think to me it would be better served if he at least did part of it in that range. And I think I would like the song more. It's just hard for me to get past his vocals in this. And being Castro Nova, did tour with him on this, at least partially, they said. And he actually toured with a very famous Italian singer, Vasco Rossi, for Trujillo years, actually. I think after this, which I never knew either.
[01:00:58] Speaker E: I understand about the vocals. It's not bothering me that much. I know it's at the top of his range, though. There's no doubt. Can't go any higher than what's going on here. Although I do think that the lyrics are better. And you can definitely tell the Geezer Butler influence in the lyrics, especially on that part right before the solo cup that's gonna be coming up now. I think if he would have wrote more with him on this would have been probably a better album so far at this point.
[01:01:19] Speaker D: Yeah, definitely digging this song a lot better. The lyrics are, as I'm reading them, they're a little tricky to read. Yeah, I definitely like way they're going. Yeah, we're all going the right direction with this song.
[01:01:30] Speaker C: I'm digging it. This is the Aussie that I expect to hear. So, yeah, the vocals, it's at the top of his range, but he's doing a great job at it. I think the music is great. And as we already discussed the drumming, it comes across may. Perhaps he was just told what to do instead of giving that creative liberty. It's good though.
[01:01:46] Speaker E: All right, Steve, read the lyrics out.
[01:01:47] Speaker D: Your morbid fear of losing destroys the lives you're using the only one point of view the stigma of delusion confirms your self illusion and after all this could be you, Horus and the Bridge could it be that I found my mind? I've gone insane Roller coaster of madness and there's only me to blame the ever faithful hand of doom will take the pain away I'll never know the answer to it all till my dying day.
[01:02:15] Speaker E: Yeah, I definitely know that Geezer Butler is helping there. It's just a. I don't know how I know that, but you can just feel the lyrics have a little more weight behind them compared to the last bunch of songs.
Sabina, do you notice that at all, or is it just me?
[01:02:28] Speaker A: I do think overall, the lyrics are better to this one. I do agree. I think the rhyming is better as well. Some of the other stuff was a little bit. I noticed.
I would say, lyrically, this might get my highest vote so far.
[01:02:41] Speaker D: Cool.
[01:02:41] Speaker E: I agree. Here we go.
[01:02:47] Speaker B: Do it.
[01:03:27] Speaker A: That was good. I liked it. Not a ton going on, but I. I kind of like the vibe of it. And I do think that overall the production is better on this one. Mark, what do you think?
[01:03:35] Speaker E: I like the swallow. It's very sludgy. There wasn't a lot of super shred going on there, which was okay because this song doesn't really need that. I think they did a great job.
[01:03:43] Speaker D: Yeah. Dug it. It's kind of like all the rest of the solos. They kind of just fit the song. And this one didn't need a ton of. Although there was a little, like a little run here and there kind of thrown in. But it was good for the song.
[01:03:53] Speaker C: Yeah, man. Really? So far, this has been my favorite that we've heard. His guitar soul is awesome. Everything about it, I just love it. This is the Aussie I was hoping to hear tonight.
[01:04:02] Speaker E: All right, let's finish this off. Here we go.
[01:04:08] Speaker B: Your bullshit culture thinking can't stop the dead words taking your only mortal after all your every take all it's a mighty fall you think you live forever.
You don't find that profound?
You won't be ever when you hear thunder underground Here we go now, Sam.
[01:06:13] Speaker A: So, Mark, how long Was that song?
[01:06:14] Speaker E: 6:30.
[01:06:15] Speaker A: Yeah, it felt like these songs are all. Been pretty long, right? It's not just me.
[01:06:21] Speaker E: No. Most of them in six, five.
[01:06:23] Speaker A: And everything feels like it's about to end. And then it just goes on a little bit more.
[01:06:27] Speaker E: Although I noticed in verse three, he had one line in there. I don't know if you noticed it where I think his vocal went to the level that you wanted it at the second line of the Third verse.
[01:06:37] Speaker A: I think he's done it in all of it. There is that one line where I notice where it's like, oh, yeah. To me. How he sung in that. That level, the whole song. I would have liked the song more.
[01:06:45] Speaker E: I can't argue with that. Steve, why don't you read the lyrics for the last verse?
[01:06:49] Speaker D: Your culture licking can't stop the death wish ticking the only mortal after all your appetite for power Subvert your hour but every time the mighty fault of course yeah, I like this LS a lot more.
[01:07:03] Speaker E: All right, then. Why don't you go first, Steve?
[01:07:04] Speaker D: Then I'm thinking everything. Are you going to Sevens Sinking Rap? Yeah, I think I'm gonna do that because the production was pretty good. I could hear things, obviously. The music was great.
This was awesome. And banging my head throughout the whole thing. Melody.
I'll probably give that like a six is all right lyrics. Now, looking back at them, I think I might go 8 on them. Production. I'll probably see 7 just because I kind of heard a little bit of everything in there. Although the vocals were. I don't know, the effects on some just, I don't know, kind of bothered me a little.
It was all right. Probably could have shortened it up a little bit. Other than that, the best song so far.
[01:07:49] Speaker A: Say seven on the lyrics. I was gonna do six, but I'll do seven. I'll say six on the music, six on production, five on arrangement, and four on the melody. Because I have to ding it somewhere. I guess that's I what square would be his vocal. I don't know where else to ding it. That's what I would say, Frank.
[01:08:07] Speaker C: For me, the lyrics and the melody is a 5, 7 across. For everything else, there's nothing in the lyrics that much, you know. The music continues to be great in this track. The guitar playing, as we mentioned many times, is awesome. The production has been really great. And it does sound like early version Black Label for me.
[01:08:22] Speaker E: I think I'm gonna do seven on the lyrics. I do like them a lot. I think they're the best lyrics so far.
[01:08:27] Speaker D: Far.
[01:08:28] Speaker E: Six on the melody, seven on the music, six on the arrangement. I like the production here a little bit better. I'm going to say seven on that. All righty. So now we're at the end of the side. This is see you on the other side.
[01:09:07] Speaker B: Voices A thousand thousand voices Whispering, whispering, whispering the time has passed for choices golden days are passing over yeah I can't seem to see you, baby Although my eyes are open wide But I know I see you once more When I see you I see you on the other side Yes, I see you I see you on the other side.
[01:10:11] Speaker A: I've personally never been a big fan of this song. I don't think it's terrible at this point. I think it would have flipped over to the other side.
[01:10:19] Speaker E: I'm not sure. I forgot to mention that this was written with Lenny Kilmister. You actually have bass on here, which I appreciate a lot more bass than you heard on anything else. Kind of like the chorusy guitar. It's not too bad, but I could see why, you know, you come off the other song, which is a lot heavier, then come back to this. And again, it's a little more popular, poppy and whatever. But his vocals, I think, are more in the range that you like, aren't they?
[01:10:40] Speaker A: Yeah, no, his vocals are good here and I think the production is pretty good too. I remember it being more ballady, so it's maybe just a little cheesy, which is fine. I think AA is uncheesy before and he can get away with it. It's not terrible. It's just for me, it's never been one of my favorites. So I'm going to see if it kind of grows in me a little bit more as it progresses since I really haven't heard it probably since it was released.
[01:11:01] Speaker E: The radio 30 years can do something.
[01:11:03] Speaker A: Yeah, can't. Absolutely.
[01:11:05] Speaker C: Me personally, honestly, I didn't know this was an Aussie song. I thought it was going to be treated to a special rendition of Purple Rain. Here's some Purple Rain influence in there.
[01:11:13] Speaker E: It is very poppy.
[01:11:14] Speaker A: It is that.
[01:11:19] Speaker C: Honestly, when I first heard the song, I thought we were going to be treated to a special rendition of Purple Rain. It's very poppy sounding. It has that vibe. Vibe to it. I'm liking it so far. But it would have been nice if it was just a rendition of Purple Rain.
[01:11:31] Speaker E: I didn't hear Purple Rain, but I get you. And just as a note for Eddie Mike, Steve had to jump off because he had to get to work and we're recording this kind of late. We had Steve for three quarters, which I guess we should be happy about.
[01:11:41] Speaker A: Yeah, we did all right.
[01:11:42] Speaker E: Yeah, he did good.
[01:11:43] Speaker A: Hopefully he'll be back next week. Just these songs are very long.
[01:11:45] Speaker E: That means I have to read lyrics now. Crap.
[01:11:47] Speaker A: At least it's the last song.
[01:11:48] Speaker E: Well, this is true. Verse 1. Voices, a thousand voices whispering the time has passed for choices golden days are passing over Pre chorus. I can't seem to See you bathing maybe Although my eyes are open wide But I know I see you once more and the chorus is when I see you I'll see you on the other side yes, I'll see you I'll see you on the other side I don't remember hearing this. I assume this was a single of some sort.
[01:12:11] Speaker A: You don't remember this song?
[01:12:13] Speaker E: No.
[01:12:13] Speaker A: At least I played all the time.
[01:12:15] Speaker E: I must have missed it. I have no idea.
[01:12:16] Speaker A: Either that or you changed it like hindent.
[01:12:18] Speaker E: I might have.
Who knows? All right, let's continue. Here we go.
[01:12:24] Speaker B: Leaving, leaving, leaving I hate to see you cry Breathing, breathing, breathing I hate to say goodbye Just stand as forever from no I know we must be as sure as des are in the sky I'm going to see you when it comes to glory and I see you I see you on the other side Yes, I see you I see you on the other side on the other side.
[01:13:23] Speaker A: Reminds me of I wonder if it's the cars who's going to take you home Tonight's got that.
[01:13:30] Speaker E: It does sound like that. Yeah. I'm not digging this too much. I like the other song before this. I. I don't know what I'm going to do with this.
[01:13:36] Speaker A: It's in his wheelhouse. But you have to like when he does this stuff. That's what it is. I think that's what it comes comes down to.
[01:13:42] Speaker E: I don't mind the kind of song it is. I just don't know if I like the song. I don't like the verses. I could say that now. I don't like the endings of the verses. I like the pre chorus. I think the pre chorus is pretty good. And the chorus is okay. The verses leave me a little bit wanting. I don't like the melody in there. I like the delay thing going from left to right. That's cool. That's different than his normal.
[01:14:00] Speaker A: And he does that thing too, that repetition thing.
[01:14:02] Speaker E: He said usually the Aussie delay is the one at the end of the line. This time it's like a double in the beginning of the line. It's a little different. It's okay.
[01:14:10] Speaker C: Yeah, I do like it. I do hear the car. You hear so many songs in this one. Do hear the cars. I also hear into the night by Ace FR in there with that bass like that.
[01:14:20] Speaker E: I didn't notice that. I thought I heard what Sabina was hearing with the bass. Okay. Versus leaving. I hate to see you cry Grieving I hate to say goodbye Dustin Ash forever. Yeah. Pre chorus, though. I Know we must be parted as sure as the stars are in the sky I'm going to see you when it comes to glory and then back to the chorus. Chorus again. I guess we're gonna get a solo here. I'm gonna back it up a little bit. Here we go.
[01:15:22] Speaker A: I mean, it's very 80s. It could have been on an 80s record. I think even that solo, it's not a bad solo. It's more melodic. There's. There's nothing wrong with it. But even the solo to me hints back to 80s. Almost like home sweet Home kind of solo. Even the song to me has a little bit of that vibe in it too. Like I said, I don't remember having it. That doom, doom, doom thing coming. I thought it was more straightforward, just like a straight up ballad. It's not a terrible song, but it's just not something I ever really liked. Or we'll go back to. What do you think of the solo, Mark?
[01:15:50] Speaker E: Solo wasn't bad. I do agree that it's very 80s is. I just don't know if I like the song that much. That much. I was expecting a little bit different when we got this. I figured we were in the 90s. We were going to get a little more heavier. Aussie. I don't think I've ever heard this whole album short of Perry Mason. So I don't know what I was expecting. But I think Thunder Underground so far, to me, is what I really want. I don't know if I'm gonna get any more of that in the second side. No clue.
[01:16:13] Speaker C: It's okay. I'm not crazy about it. I wish we got something different. It's not terrible either. It's within his wheelhouse. Very 80s sounding. Yeah. You know, came from that era. Overall, I think it's a good song.
[01:16:23] Speaker E: All right, let's continue. Here we go.
[01:16:39] Speaker B: But we together it help me die I'm falling far away Far away Far away Distant voice is calling I'm so cold I need you, darling Lying straight across the great divine I know you're crying But I stop you crying When I see you see you on the other side Yes, I see you, see you on the other side I'm going to see you, see you on the other side God knows I see you, see you on the other side I'll see you, see you on the other side I'm going to see you, see you on the other side God knows I'm See you, see you on the other side I want to see you see you on the Other side See you.
[01:19:27] Speaker A: Do you think the song is over and it just keeps going? I mean, I guess it's funny. See you on the other side at least for anything you had to flip over on a cd. It doesn't really matter, but you can appreciate it.
[01:19:38] Speaker E: If he was doing that. I don't know if that was even in his head while he was doing that. I don't know if they were making vinyl when this came out. They may have still been 95. It's possible.
[01:19:45] Speaker A: Oh, they're definitely cassette, if nothing else. Right?
[01:19:48] Speaker E: This is true. Let me read the rest of this so we can do our ratings. Verse three is hold me, hold me tight I'm falling far away Distant voice is calling I'm so cold I need you, darling Pre Chorus I was down but now I'm flying Straight across the great divide I know you're crying But I'll stop you crying Chorus When I see you I'll see you on the other side yes, I'll see you See you on the other side I'm going to see you See you on the other side God knows I'll see you See you on the other side yeah, and then a bunch of C on the other sides. For the outro. Why don't you go first, Frank?
[01:20:19] Speaker C: I like how he ended the side with a ballad again. I mean, it's classic Aussie sound. I'm actually gonna give these sevens all the way across. I like the guitar, I like the bass playing. I like the lyric. I really do. They're one of the better lyrics ever list I've heard so far. For me, seven is all the way across.
[01:20:34] Speaker E: There's only one way to rock and it's Quinniple seven. Nikki titty baby Sad why don't you go.
[01:20:38] Speaker A: I'm going to say a six on the production and five on everything else. Just never been one of my favorites or one I'll go go back to. I can appreciate it, but it's just not something I really like. Sorry, Aussie Mark.
[01:20:51] Speaker E: It's gonna be tough because I don't hate it, but I don't like it either. I don't know, I'm gonna probably go in the middle somewhere and do sixes across. Kind of in between you and in between. Frank. It's not something I wanted out of him and I guess that's kind of what it is. I would like more of Thunder Underground if I was gonna hear anything else from this. And, you know, for us it's. This is kind of like our tribute thing for Him. So you want to like what you got. But we also got an album that at least I don't know very much about. And I didn't hear back in the day. For me, this is brand new stuff. And I don't know, maybe I would have liked to have possibly have gotten something older just because I would have been more familiar with it and I would have had more of a positive thing to say. I don't think we gave it horrible scores all the way through. Not as good as I thought it was going to be.
[01:21:32] Speaker A: Like I said, I remember Perry Mason and I remember this one because they would definitely play it on the radio. I mean, I do like it better now than I did before, but I do remember people saying, like, this was an okay record. I don't remember people bragging about it back then. I said, oh, this is a great album for my dream appeal, saying, it's okay.
[01:21:49] Speaker E: I mean, this was a four year gap between no More Tears and Osmosis. Supposedly he was kind of a little bit in a retirement thing suppose and he came back and he got rid of the whole band that he had on no More Tears, besides Zack Wilde. That's maybe why D. Castro Nova was in here.
[01:22:01] Speaker A: Well, the tour was called Retirement Sucks Tour.
[01:22:03] Speaker E: Is that what it was called? That's funny. Yeah. I don't know, I was expecting more. Again, we're doing this. You know, we made an audible because of what happened and he passed away. So we wanted to do an Aussie thing. But I, you know, I'm glad we got this. Even though it may be not the one we all would have rather had.
[01:22:17] Speaker A: I'm happy to get. Like I said, I wanted something that I didn't really know. I didn't really know this one other than what I'd already heard. I was curious and yeah, I guess I was expecting something heavier as well. I thought the rest is stuff would have been heavier. I think Perry Mason was a little bit heavier than I remembered. This song wasn't as straightforward as I remember, but I do remember it definitely being a ballady type song. Listen, we got a whole other side for next week.
[01:22:42] Speaker E: Hopefully Steve will be back, we can get him back again and he can finish the whole side out. Yeah, but we shall see. Sav, why don't you do your thing?
[01:22:48] Speaker A: You're part of the Deep Dive Podcast Network again, like I always say. Great bunch of guys took us in right away. If you want individualized podcasts about bands, check them out. You got Tom Petty, Rush, Judas Priest, Uriah, Heap, Van Halen's up and you name it, it's probably on there. So check them out. And mark, where can they find this.
[01:23:04] Speaker E: On the Interwebs rock roulette pod and all the social media. Rock roulettepodcast.com do your polls, do your merch, send us a new bets, send an album in, put on the wheel. You know what to do. Put us on your auto download so you get us every week. Do a five star review wherever you review your podcast because that helps us out and we'll see what happens next week. Maybe there'll be a saving grace on the second side. Everything here has been kind of middle of the road. Fives and sixes. Not the worst, not the best. I do agree with you that I think I like Perry Mason now more than I did when it originally came out. Alrighty, we will see you next week.
[01:23:35] Speaker A: Ciao ciao.
[01:23:36] Speaker C: Good night everybody.
[01:23:37] Speaker E: Later.
[01:23:47] Speaker B: It.
