Episode 159 - Oasis - Defintely Maybe - Part 2

[00:00:00] Speaker A: Foreign. [00:00:04] Speaker B: This is our musical reaction breakdown and commentary analysis of this song. Under Fair Use, we intend no copyright infringement and this is not a replacement for listening to the artist's music. The content made available on this podcast is for educational and informational purposes only, notwithstanding a copyright owner's rights under the Copyright Act. Section 107 of the Copyright act allows limited use of copyrighted material without requiring permission from the rights holders for purposes such as education, criticism, comment, news, reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research. These so called fair uses are permitted even if the use of the work would otherwise be infringing. Now on to the Rock Roulette Podcast. [00:01:03] Speaker A: Foreign. [00:01:14] Speaker C: Welcome back to another episode of Rock Roulette Podcast. That's right, the crazy ass pockets that took over 1,500 albums, stuck them in a list, stuck them in a wheel and typically every other week we spin the wheel. She picks a record for us and we go through a track by track. We talk about the music, the lyrics, the production, the melody and the arrangement and we give it scores. Just a bunch of friends who want to do a podcast. And tonight we are threesome again. We have Frank. [00:01:41] Speaker A: My name is Frank. [00:01:48] Speaker B: And I'm Sexy. [00:01:57] Speaker D: Hello everybody. [00:01:58] Speaker C: We have Mark. Oh hi Mark. [00:02:00] Speaker B: What's up guys? [00:02:01] Speaker C: And I'm se. Last week was the first brand new spin in a while and in her wisdom the wheel picked Oasis. First album, definitely maybe. Which I do remember liking and I even like more now. I can honestly say I'm really happy that it picked it. I think they're definitely great songwriters. Say whatever you want about them. You don't have to like them. I think they're pretty good and I think there's a reason they made a big name for themselves. Frank, I'm going to defer to you first because originally you had said that you didn't think you liked it, but it seems your scores are pretty decent. So what do you think overall so far? The first side. [00:02:34] Speaker D: First side is really good. It's not my cup of tea. Can't deny the fact they have good music, some really great songwriting going on. The musicianship is really good. Every song so far has been really good. [00:02:44] Speaker C: I really like the production on this one. Mark. I know you'd like more, I guess solo guitar, guitar in general, but I think loud and hard that's up front. Just maybe not in the, let's say virtuoso kind of way, but songwriting wise and production wise I think it's pretty much there. What do you think? [00:02:59] Speaker B: I've always liked them. I thought they write good Songs. Well, Noel Gallagher writes good songs. I think he's the really only guy writing songs here, from what I can gather. I was watching some stuff on YouTube and the loudness that we were talking about was ultimately what put them down on the third record, which is kind of funny. And then he tried to go back and mix it and he couldn't do it. He got to one song and he couldn't remix it. Now, in the last bunch of years, I forget exactly when, but, yeah, the loudness was 100% what they wanted to do. It was a production choice. [00:03:26] Speaker C: I think it works great. We've spoken about production here, where levels are too much or not enough, but I think their songs are loud and they're leveled. Well, I think the production's great. I know it's going to start great, at least. Least for me when we go back to it today. But I hope the rest of it is just as good. Before we go back to that, we have our new Bet section. [00:03:46] Speaker B: In a world where new music is. [00:03:50] Speaker A: Not easy to find. Welcome to New Bets. [00:04:05] Speaker B: Here is the new Bets wheel. [00:04:20] Speaker C: Awesome. I've been wanting to hear this. Alice Cooper, Black Mamba. Everybody's talking about this record and how good it is. I'm very excited by this. [00:04:29] Speaker B: This is the original band, right? Minus the one person who passed away, I think. [00:04:33] Speaker C: Yep, that's what I heard. Produced by Bob Ezrin. Yeah. [00:04:36] Speaker B: Yes, it is. I hope we actually get this album eventually. [00:04:39] Speaker C: I'm very curious. [00:04:40] Speaker B: I mean, I don't know if I want an original one first. And then this, which. That would be cool. [00:04:45] Speaker C: Like an older one. [00:04:46] Speaker B: Older one. And then do this. Maybe we could do a two first. [00:04:48] Speaker C: Oh, maybe. [00:04:49] Speaker B: All right. So this is Alice Cooper, Black Mamba. [00:05:06] Speaker A: I think I'll hide inside your bed sheets. Coiled into the folds of white. I'll just watch you while you're sleeping, darling? And decide if I should bite? I'm so beautiful to look at. [00:05:55] Speaker C: But. [00:05:56] Speaker A: Also dangerous to touch? You're just a slave to temptation, baby? Perhaps you want me much too much? I think I'll hide inside your bed sheets? Coiled into the false eyes? I'll just watch you while you're sleeping, baby? And decide if I should bite? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah? Come a little closer, darling? Look into my eyes. I ain't domesticated, I'm not that civilized? I'm crawling up your legs now, baby, you whisper in your ear A little poison right now, baby, you've got nothing to fear yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah I love your touch now, baby I love to feel your skin I want to slide inside and hide before I do you in Sam. Black mama slides black mama sways A word to the wise now, baby, you better get out of my way Black mama slides black mama sways A word to the wilds now, baby, you better get out of my way yeah. [00:09:45] Speaker C: That was pretty good. I like the overall feel of the song. I wish they'd done a little bit more than the yayas in the chorus. Honestly, I don't really like the drum sound. They're okay. They sound a little bit muffled. They don't sound that typical sound, but they sound a bit muffled. I do want to say I want to be remiss. I was listening to an older podcast and we did get the Phil X and I did say I did not like the drum sound. So for whatever reason, I re listened to that podcast. I heard the song again and the drum sounded pretty good. So I did want to say that now, saying that. Mark, what do you think of this one? [00:10:15] Speaker B: I think it's really, really good for you to put out like this this many years after. I don't think you can ask much more than that. You wish all your favorite bands could recreate themselves like this and sound like they did back in the day. I love everything about this song. I think it's great. [00:10:29] Speaker C: Yeah, the vibe is great. I just wish the drums had a snare. If anything, a little bit more of a pop. It's not a major complaint. It doesn't ruin it. The general feel of the song, I think, is great. They really captured a really cool vibe. Frank, what do you think? [00:10:43] Speaker D: Like Mark was saying, it sounds like we were back in the 70s. Really great sound. It's not for me. Can't deny he sounded really good. Overall, I think the production of the song was really good. [00:10:52] Speaker C: I am very curious to hear the rest of it. I'm looking forward to it. [00:10:55] Speaker B: Yeah. Hopefully the Wheel decides it will grace us with this, but since we want it, it'll probably will never do it because the Wheel sucks like that. [00:11:04] Speaker C: Their next album will be out by the time we get it. [00:11:06] Speaker B: Yeah. If you like it, let us know. If you don't like it, let us know. Let's rubber stamp it. Here we go. In a world where music is not easy to find, welcome to new Bets. Now we're going to have Supersonic, which I think is one of my favorite songs in this record. I know it's maybe Savino's favorite song. [00:11:37] Speaker C: Amazing song. [00:11:37] Speaker B: Frank, before we get going, do you remember this song from back in the day? [00:11:41] Speaker D: No, I don't remember my title. I'll put it that way. [00:11:43] Speaker B: I think you remember it. So here it is, Supersonic by Oasis. [00:12:15] Speaker A: I need to be myself I can't be no one else. I'm feeling supersonic. Give me Ted and Sonic? You can have it all but how much do you want it? Make me laugh. Give me your honor Brown Can I ride with you in your BMW? You can sail with me and my yellow submarine. You need to find out. Cause no one's gonna tell you what I'm on about. You need to find a way for what you want to say. But before tomorrow. Cause my friend said he'll take you. Sits in a cal he waterfall. Nobody can see him. Nobody can ever hear him call. Nobody can ever hear him call. [00:13:58] Speaker C: Bouncing in my chair side to side Bopping my head singing along. Love this song. Such a great song. [00:14:04] Speaker B: It's an awesome song. They don't use Supersonic as much as you would think. Wouldn't the chorus, using the verse. So I always like that. I think it's a great song. I think it went to number 11 on Alternative United States. On the mainstream Rock, it was 38 the Hot Singles. It was 18 in 2014. I don't know why it was in 2014. That's weird. [00:14:25] Speaker D: It was probably a movie or a show. [00:14:28] Speaker B: Yeah, probably. It was bigger in the UK than it was here. It sold 2 times platinum, which is 1.2 million in the UK. This was all over the place. You couldn't get away from this song either. [00:14:38] Speaker C: First time I heard it was when I bought the cassette. I don't even remember hearing it on the radio. Believe it or not, I heard it here when I bought it. [00:14:44] Speaker B: Yeah, it was great. Frank, do you remember it now? [00:14:45] Speaker D: Yeah. Again, one of those songs. They got a ton of radio play. [00:14:48] Speaker B: Yes. A little alternative. It's a little psychedelic, has a little bit of grunginess, and it's a mixture of lots of different things. And it has that loud production that we were talking about, which obviously was a very purposeful production choice pretty much for this album. The next album and the third album, they Wanted to be Loud. He actually has lyrics in this, so I actually have to read lyrics. Verse 1. I need to be myself. I can't be no one else. I'm feeling supersonic Give me gin and tonic. You can have it all, but how much do you want it? You make me laugh, you give me your autograph. Can I ride with you in your BMW? BMW? You can sail with me in my yellow submarine. Pre chorus. You need to find out because no one's going to tell you what I'm all about. You need to find a way for what you want to say but before tomorrow and then choruses. Because my friend said he take you home. He sits in a corner all alone. He lives under a waterfall. Nobody can see him, nobody can ever hear him call. No one can ever hear him call. Yeah, everything's good about this thing. Melody lyrics are pretty good. All right, let's continue. [00:15:54] Speaker A: You can't be no one else. I know a girl called Elsa, she's into apply seltzer she sniffs it through a cane on a supersonic train and she makes me laugh. I got her autograph, she done it with the doctor on a helicopter she's sniffing a tail when she finds out no one's going to tell her what I'm on about. You need to find a way for what you want to say but before tomorrow. As my friend said, he'll take you home. Sits in a car alone. He lives under a waterfall. Nobody can see him. Nobody could ever hear him call. Nobody could ever hear him call. Sam. [00:18:16] Speaker C: I like how they add elements. They have the hand claps there at the end, the tambourine. Build it up a little bit, and as soon as that song's over my game, I'm gonna listen to it again. I think it's just so infected. I just think it's a great song. One of my favorite Oasis songs, hands down. [00:18:32] Speaker B: Yeah, it's one of my favorites on the album. I like the fact that it actually has words. He didn't decide to use old words that use the first verse again. He changed it all up. I kind of like that. It's great. Bass is good, Drums are good. Even a little guitar playing, it's good. It's right for the song. It's nothing technical whatsoever. It fits the song so well. What do you think, Frank? [00:18:51] Speaker D: Yeah, it's good, you know, I like it. This is one of those songs that got a ton of radio play during its time, and I was surprised to hear that. It didn't rank as high as I thought it would when it initially released, but overall, really good. And I like the lyrics. I like everything about it, so. Excellent. [00:19:04] Speaker B: Okay, so let me read the rest of the lyrics. You need to be yourself you can't be no one else. I know a girl called Elsa, she's into Alka Seltzer. She sniffs it through a cane on a supersonic train and she makes me laugh. I got her autograph. She done it with a doctor on a helicopter. She's sniffing in a tissue, settling the big issue pre chorus. When she finds out no one's going to tell her what I'm on about. You need to find a way for what you want to say but before tomorrow because my friend said he'd take you home. He sits in a corner all alone. He lives under a waterfall. Nobody can see him, nobody can ever hear him call. Nobody can ever hear him call. Do we even know what this is about? I know the Elsa part is about a dog. It's not a person. It's about the sound engineers. 9 stone or 126 pound rottweiler with a flatulence problem. That's why it needed Alka self. [00:19:57] Speaker C: Let me tell you what I thought it was about because I never knew, believe it or not, that it was supersonic train. I thought it was supersonic tray. When I say a girl called Elsa, Alka Seltzer sniffs it through a can on a supersonic tray. I'm thinking she's sniffing in a tissue, selling the Big Issue. [00:20:17] Speaker B: I think the Elsa name came from the dog, but I'm sure it has something to do with drugs. There's no way this is not a cocaine reference of some sort of. It's funny how they use things in their personal life. They'll use names and stuff and then change it around. So you think, oh, the Alka Seltzer is coke. But is it really or is it really about the dog? Who knows? That's what it says here. Does that really mean what it is? [00:20:40] Speaker C: It could mean something else. I mean, that's how I always took it. [00:20:43] Speaker B: I mean, it could also be about prostitution too if you think about it. [00:20:46] Speaker C: She done it with the doctor. [00:20:47] Speaker B: Yeah. You decide what this is about? It's probably about 126 pound Rottweiler, but you know, know whatever you want. [00:20:55] Speaker C: Frank, you go first. [00:20:56] Speaker D: All this time I just thought it was about a cuckoo with a cocaine problem hearing now that it's a dog with an ass gas problem. I don't know. I like the song so much. [00:21:04] Speaker B: Well, it could be whatever you want. It could be about the hooker with cocaine issue. That's fine too. [00:21:09] Speaker D: This is one of those songs Tonario play. Even I would sit down and listen to it. Ate across the board for this. Even with the new revelation that it's really about a dog with a flatulent problem, I still think it's solid. [00:21:19] Speaker A: Solid. [00:21:22] Speaker C: I was gonna go lower in the lyrics, but it. I'm just gonna go nines across. I think it's a great song. I've never gotten tired of hearing this song. Anytime it comes on a playlist or I rediscover it somewhere, for some reason it just comes on. I just can't stop getting into it. And I always pictured us doing this as a song at some award show and just getting everyone up in the crowd and clapping along to us because, like I said, it's just so infectious. The nines across from me Me Mark. [00:21:49] Speaker B: I think I'm going to do eights, but I'm going to do nine on the arrangement because it's a weird arrangement where it just goes together and then the solo just runs it out. So I like that. I think it's a great song. It's one of my favorite Oasis songs. Next one is Bring It On Down. [00:22:15] Speaker A: Sa. [00:22:47] Speaker B: Don'T. [00:22:57] Speaker A: Why was that? Sound the outside. Because you live in space every day I know you got a problem like the devil Sands from the Solar. [00:24:00] Speaker C: Another strong song for me. A little bit heavier riff. I like the melody, actually. Like the words. Definitely some Johnny Rotten vibes again in his delivery. Without a doubt. Good. I think it's another really good song. [00:24:12] Speaker B: I totally forgot about this song. This could have surpassed Supersonic almost. For me, it's pretty damn close. I actually like the riff in this. I like the guitars in this. This, like the drums. Everything's really good. [00:24:21] Speaker C: Yeah, Very strong. [00:24:22] Speaker D: I don't think it's as good as Supersonic, but. But, man, it's good. [00:24:25] Speaker B: I just like the driving riff. I like the uptempo ness of it. I just think it's more what I would like to hear. I do like that. I think the guitar playing is a little bit better here too. Yeah, it's just my opinion. Whatever. I don't know anything. I just like it better. [00:24:37] Speaker C: You know what you like. [00:24:38] Speaker B: I know what I like. Verse 1. What was that sound ringing around your brain Today Was just a blur you got a head like a ghost train brain what was that sound ringing around your brain? You're here on your own who you gonna find to blame? And the chorus is, you're the outcast, you're the underclass but you don't care because you're living fast? You're the uninvited guest who stays till the end. I know you've got a problem that devil sends. You think they're talking about you but you don't know who I'll be Scraping their lives from the soul of my shoe tonight. Those are cool lyrics. [00:25:07] Speaker C: Yep. [00:25:08] Speaker B: Oh, and I didn't mention the verse for the last song. They use the yellow submarine. Did you notice that? [00:25:12] Speaker C: Yes. They make beetle references, I'm sure on purpose. They don't hide that. [00:25:17] Speaker B: No. Well, you. You can't hide it. It is there. I don't think it's as bad as everyone says it is. I don't think everyone said, oh, my God, there would be a drip off. I don't think that's the case. He has a little bit of a John Lennony thing going on in certain times in his voice. I think that's what does it too. Okay, here we go. [00:25:39] Speaker A: Everybody can follow me. Everybody. Overall, I know we got. [00:26:24] Speaker C: And Mark there, you have the megaphone voice, but it was the era, the 90s of the megaphone voice. Right? [00:26:31] Speaker B: Everybody needs to have the megaphone voice. I don't hate it. [00:26:34] Speaker C: We had it. [00:26:35] Speaker B: I know. We had it too. You know what the though? I wish he would have done it for the half of the verse and then used his regular voice for the rest. That's the only thing. I don't think he needed it through the whole thing. [00:26:45] Speaker C: I agree. I agree. It doesn't ruin it for me. I mean, it's song. It's still driving. I'm like, okay, they're just trying to do something a little bit different. And sometimes when you think of working class and kind of like the Foremans and the whatevers. Right. Kind of like that Mega. Get back to work. [00:26:57] Speaker B: Yeah. It was just such a stock thing for every 90s band and even into like the 2000s to do. [00:27:03] Speaker C: Oh, it's going on now. I mean, it's a throwback, I guess, Right? It sounds cool. I do like it, though. I've always liked that. [00:27:09] Speaker B: That I think it can be overused. I think when it's used right. It's good. I think when it's overused, when it's done like this, the whole verse is just too much. I wish it was cut in half and then use the. His regular voice for the rest of it. But I can see why they did it here. It's fine. It doesn't ruin it for me at all. Verse two is bring it on down. Bring it on down for me. Your head's in a fish tank. Your body and your mind can't breathe. And then he repeats that again. Starting to get a little lazy now. And the chorus is the same as. [00:27:33] Speaker C: It was before, but give credit. At least they put the title in the verse. Right. As opposed to like they do with Supersonic, as opposed to putting it in the chorus. So they change that up. [00:27:42] Speaker B: Yeah. I always enjoy when the chorus has nothing to do with the name of the song. I kind of like that. [00:27:47] Speaker C: Me, too. [00:27:47] Speaker B: All right, here we go. [00:28:06] Speaker A: It's sa. [00:29:16] Speaker C: Great Loud. I like that part at the end. Again, he does more of guitar pieces, I think, than solos. He does do something different. He could just kind of play out the rift through the rest of the thing, but he doesn't. He always does a little. At least a little something. So I. I appreciate that. What do you think of the end, Mark? [00:29:32] Speaker B: I thought it was good. The guitar playing is basic. When it comes to the lead stuff, you have to give credit to the songwriting because I think that's really what this is about. It's less about how good he plays guitar and more his songwriting skill. Because the guitar solo stuff, I think most people could do that if they played as long as he was playing. You almost expect more, but that's really not where his skill set is. I thought it was great. [00:29:50] Speaker D: Oh, yeah, 100%, I think. I'm surprised at how forward the guitar playing was in this one. And just loud. I think this was the loudest song so far that we've heard. [00:29:59] Speaker C: I think Columbia, maybe. Is that the name of the one on the first side? That one could have been louder, but I think this is probably the heaviest in terms of the mix of the loud and kind of the anger in it, as opposed to the other ones. Yeah. Great song. [00:30:13] Speaker B: I'll go first. I'm going to give it 8 across. I think it's a great song. I said it might have been better than Supersonic. In some ways I like it better than Supersonic, but in other ways, I think Supersonic is a better song. Frank. [00:30:25] Speaker D: I'm going to give it 8 across as well. Just really good guitar playing in this one and just a really forward, loud song overall. Liking it for all those reasons. Well produced, too. [00:30:37] Speaker C: You get to play it again, Mark. I'm going to go you to cross the as well. [00:30:40] Speaker D: It's great to be here. [00:30:43] Speaker C: Wow. His voice changed completely. Frank, you sound different in English than you do in Spanish. [00:30:50] Speaker B: The next one is Cigarettes and Alcohol. [00:31:05] Speaker A: Satisfied. I was looking for so much y But all I found was you can work for a lifetime to spend your days in the sun. You might as well do the wider Eye. Cause when it comes your song, you gotta make it happen. You gotta make it happen. You gotta make it happen. You gotta make it happen. Sation on the theme. [00:33:05] Speaker C: It's kind of of like T. Rex meets the Rolling stones. Played at 11, sung by partially Johnny Rotten and then by Liam Gallagher. I think it's still cool. It's not necessarily my favorite one so far, but it still has a cool vibe to it. And you can see how this song goes across well live. [00:33:23] Speaker B: I'm not big on the production. I'm not sure what the production is doing here. It feels a little muddy. I don't know if everyone else feels that way. Just feels very muddy. The music is basic blues, chord change changes. It's just not great for me. I like the words. I think the words are great. I mean, not that the music's bad. It's just very stock. It feels like to me, it is a very Rolling Stoney groove, which I wasn't expecting. [00:33:46] Speaker C: And I can hear that bang a gong kind of thing going on there. I agree with you. This one is a bit jacked up. This could be 12 instead of 11 and maybe that's where some of the mud is coming from. It starts off too, that little feedback throw thing. I was like, oh, that's loud. [00:34:03] Speaker D: Not my favorite. Not liking it like the other one so far. I don't know why I hear Bad Medicine in there, but I do. This is one of those songs that to me sounds like a filler track. [00:34:13] Speaker B: I can hear that. [00:34:13] Speaker C: I guess it's a big hit for them. I listen. I'm not saying obviously none of us are crazy, crazy about it, but as far as filler track, it's not for them. This is a big song for them. [00:34:22] Speaker B: I think he loves the song. What I gather. Oh, no, no. Gallagher. [00:34:26] Speaker C: Yeah, it's fun. And I can see where this is one of those songs you don't necessarily go crazy for on the record, but you hear it live and it kind of. You start singing along because you know it and you kind of get into it and you assume that everybody in the crowd's probably singing along to it. To me, it's one of those live songs. Hear this live and you'll probably appreciate it more than you do on the record. And I have heard it live and it does sound pretty good. Not me live, but televised. [00:34:49] Speaker B: Yeah. I think for me, just either the over saturation or the production is just killing it for me. I don't hate it. I'm not going to give this thing crappy. I Think that maybe the two loudness has hit its max right here for me anyway. Verse 1. Is it my imagination or if I finally found something worth living for? I was looking for some action but all I found was cigarettes and alcohol. Pre chorus. You could wait for a lifetime to spend your days in the sunshine. You might as well do the white line because when it comes on tops, you got to make it happen. You got to make it happen. You got to make it happen. You got to make it happen again. Chorus and the name of the song, not in the chorus. I'm all for that, but I don't know about three songs in a row like that though. That'd be my only criticism as far as the words go. I do like them though. Let's continue. Here we go. [00:35:50] Speaker A: It's a crazy situation but all I need a s and alcohol. Oh, you can wait for a light time to spend your days in associate you might as well do the white light cuz when it comes time you got to make it happen. You got to make it happen. You got to make it happen. You got to make it happen. [00:36:42] Speaker B: I think that the lyrics in here are bringing up a sentiment that was a lot in the 90s. Your aggravation, trying to find what you want to do. Is this worth doing? I think that was a major 90s thing that he's going through here. I don't know if you guys agree with that. [00:36:55] Speaker C: I will tell you that in 94. I love cigarettes and alcohol. Without a doubt. I know that. I can relate to that sentiment. That's for sure. Frank, you have any relations to this? [00:37:06] Speaker D: Yeah, I'm right there with you. Oh, yeah, 94. It's all about the cigarettes and beer and everything else. That was fast. [00:37:13] Speaker B: See, Frank, you and no Gallagher, you know exactly what's going on. [00:37:16] Speaker D: All I know is that thank God we didn't have social media back then like we do today, because zero dollar would have been canceled along with a lot of other people. We'd have been canceled. He'll put us on a rocket ship to the moon. They're like, yeah, I gotta get rid of this. These people. [00:37:29] Speaker B: You know what, though? Nothing ever happened. There's no evidence that anything happened. So what happened? No, I don't know. [00:37:33] Speaker D: Nope, nope, nope. [00:37:34] Speaker C: Our honesty on this podcast is the only proof. [00:37:37] Speaker B: Yeah, pretty much. All right, here we go. [00:38:01] Speaker A: You gotta face it, you gotta, you gotta, you gotta make it, you gotta, you gotta, you gotta face it. Sa. [00:39:08] Speaker C: I actually like that end. Kind of weird, but I do kind of like it. Mark, any New lyrics to read or are we just in repetition again? [00:39:15] Speaker B: The outro is just, you gotta, you gotta, you gotta make it. You gotta, you gotta, you gotta, you gotta fake it. And then he repeats that again. I don't hate the song. I think I'm gonna go first again. I'm gonna do seven across. I don't hate it. I think the production is just a little too much. But as far as actual song goes, I don't hate it. It's very Rolling Stonesy. The more I listen to it, the more Rolling Stones I hear. I mean, it is a little stock. You know, when you say some of the 80s bands did losey kind of things, it's a little stock in that thing. But I think it has enough of the swagger that it kind of overrides the stockiness of it. So I'm going to say seven. [00:39:44] Speaker C: It's groovy, man. [00:39:45] Speaker B: It's quintuple seven, Nikki Titty Baby. Frank. [00:39:48] Speaker D: Yeah. Like I said before, to me, this sounds like a filler track. [00:39:51] Speaker C: Good. [00:39:51] Speaker D: But it's still a filler track. So for me, I'm going to to go sixes across the board. [00:39:56] Speaker C: I'll go with sevens as well. I was going to do sixes across, but it did get better as it went along. I'm not crazy about the production, but it's not horrible. And sometimes it does feel that maybe hearing it here isn't always exactly the way, like, I mentioned the FILX song. So, yeah, I'm going to go sevens across as well. Music can change the world because it can change people. And it's quintuple seven. [00:40:18] Speaker B: Nikki Titty baby. [00:40:21] Speaker C: I would love to see him do that live. [00:40:23] Speaker B: I haven't busted the Bono out in a little bit. I figured I had to do that for you. All right, so the next one is Diggsy's Diner. [00:40:46] Speaker A: You. What a life it would be I I'll treat you like a queen I'll give you strongers of a K Then like friends that I'm going for my these could be the best days of our lives But I don't think we be living what it was oh, what. [00:41:39] Speaker C: A life would be I feel the production's a little muddled one as well. Could just be me. I think it's very catchy. And the fact that it is called Diggs Designer, kind of assume it's someplace that they know. And the fact that it is and the fact that this actually is something that this person said kind of makes it cool, because it doesn't make sense when you think about you like, oh, what the hell are they talking about? But when you think about it's actually somebody who said these things, it makes it personal. And I kind of like that because sometimes you just really write about experiences that you've only had. And, you know, sometimes people can just relate it to experience that they've had. Not specifically the lyrics. But, oh, yeah, this other guy knew. He said this other weird thing, too. It's like, I can understand. [00:42:17] Speaker B: From what I was reading, it was misspelled on the US Release. It's not Diggsy's Diner. It's Diggsy's Dinner. They messed it up. [00:42:25] Speaker C: You're right. Diggsy's Dinner. You're right. [00:42:27] Speaker B: I do see that. So supposedly, he had a friend called Peter Diggsy Dreary. He started singing nonsensical things about having lasagna for tea. And he promptly inspired a romantic vignette about asking a girl out. He hated the song. And then he made some other lyrics up about Noel's nose. It's just a silly kind of song. It's interesting. It's. To me, this is more filler than the other song. [00:42:48] Speaker C: I just think it's fun. I don't think it's as involved as some of the other ones. Without a doubt. I guess for what it is, it kind of makes sense. It's like a ditty almost. [00:42:56] Speaker D: It seems like it's starting to run out of steam. Another filler track, to me, just doesn't have momentum. They lost me with this one. [00:43:02] Speaker B: Oh, here he comes. I knew it was gonna have to happen eventually. It's coming. 90s Frank is coming back. [00:43:07] Speaker C: Took a while. [00:43:07] Speaker B: Yeah, it took a little while. Okay. Verse. What a life it would be if you could come to mine or tea. I'll pick you up at half past three. You'll have lasagna. I'll treat you like a queen I'll give you strawberries and cream Then tell your friends we'll all grow green for my lasagna. And the chorus is. But these could be the best days of our lives. But I don't think we've been living very wise. Oh, no, no. You see, again, not the name of the song in the chorus. That's like four in a row. I like when it's used sparingly. I don't like when it's used that much. [00:43:35] Speaker C: Well, I figured when it's used this much, it's a style. That's how I kind of see it. And the fact that they Happen to be placed in together. Who knows what they were doing when they put the songs together. [00:43:44] Speaker B: Okay, let's continue. Not much more to say. Kind of more of the same. Piano solo. Interesting. I guess I do like the piano. [00:44:22] Speaker C: Bar, saloony kind of piano little thing there. It's catchy. I mean, I'm still kind of bobbing my head to it. [00:44:28] Speaker B: It's a little fillery, though. [00:44:29] Speaker D: I mean, you're just a fanboy at this point. That's why you still bopping around. [00:44:34] Speaker C: Hey, maybe. I think this filler track is better than some other filler tracks we've heard on this podcast. [00:44:40] Speaker B: I don't know if this is going to be getting great scores from me. Tens, baby. [00:44:43] Speaker C: No, just kidding. [00:44:45] Speaker B: Frank is right. It is filler. Even the whole story about how it came together is filler. [00:44:50] Speaker C: Mark. I have a question for you then. [00:44:51] Speaker B: What's that? [00:44:51] Speaker C: Is this filler track better than a filler track on the Pretty Boy Floyd album? [00:44:55] Speaker B: Ooh, yes, I think so. [00:44:57] Speaker D: Blast. Blasphemy. [00:45:01] Speaker B: All right, let's continue. Here we go. [00:45:06] Speaker A: Can we be living? Very wise Set out oh, no what alive you will be if you become somebody I'll make you the world that I see When I I'll treat you like a queen I'll give you something so free Then got friends when I found. [00:45:51] Speaker C: There'S parts where it sounds like he's playing double bass in the drums. It's weird. I'd have to listen to it again, but sometimes it sounds like I'm like, is that double bass? I can't really tell. It's quick, though, right? How long it is. [00:46:02] Speaker B: Is that song 232? It's a quick song. [00:46:04] Speaker C: They were in and out. They knew what they were doing with this one. They just had a goof. [00:46:07] Speaker B: And so the outro is interesting. It's a little different. I'll treat you like a queen I'll give you strawberries and cream Then your friends will all go green Then your friends will all go green Then your friends will all go green for my lasagna so it's kind of funny. Oh, your friends are going to be all jealous. He's going to have my lasagna. It's silly. It's a silly, silly song. All right, Frank, you go first. [00:46:26] Speaker D: It's one of those songs that you hear just before closing time. Somebody throws this on the jukebox and they have a bunch of shit. Face you it with all their heart and soul. And they really mean the lyrics, too, even though they're singing about Lasagna again. Filler track. Not into it. Fives all the way across for me. Sad. [00:46:42] Speaker C: I'm going to say seven on the melody. I really like the melody. I think it's catchy. It reminds me of something else. I just can't think of what it is. I'll say five on the lyric. I was going to say six, but I'll say six just for. Because it's personal. Take it from whatever. I'll say five and I'll say six on everything else. I still like it. I don't think it's quality, though, some of the other ones. But being 232 and being what it is, I think it's exactly what it's supposed be to. To be. It was kind of a fun song. I'm not taking it too, too seriously. Like some of the other stuff. [00:47:10] Speaker B: Mark, this song has the most repeated lyrics out of any of the song. Just for that, I have to give it a four. It's just the same over and over and over and over. It's a silly, silly, silly song. And then fives on the rest. To me, it is a filler thing. I don't like as much of the other stuff. It's definitely not a serious song. I mean, damn, he used the same verse three times in a row. I mean, if you're gonna make it silly, you could make it silly with different lyrics. Lyrics, I think. But he hasn't been doing that on this side. This side, he's been fairly good about actually writing lyrics. This is the only one he's kind of repeated himself over and over. So that's why the four on that. Otherwise, you know, it's silly. Whatever. Okay, next one is Slide away. [00:48:06] Speaker A: Slide away. I give it all you got my today fairy from the top. I dream of you and all the things you say I wonder way why now hold me down all the world asleep needs you now you knock me off my feet I dream of you I'm talking growing up but you sh these bounds sliding and baby, together we'll fly I tried playing, but I don't know what you're saying to me. Now that you're mine we'll find a way I'm chasing the sun Let me be the one who shines with you in the mountain we don't know what to do so I will die we'll find a way do what we done Let me be the one who shines with you and we can slide away Slide away, slide away. [00:49:57] Speaker C: And just like that, they're back. I think this Is great too. Great melody, great music. It was written on a guitar that was lent to Noel by the great Johnny Moore of the Smiths that he got from Pete Tyler. Announce it. Enough said. [00:50:12] Speaker B: I like the chorus a lot. I think the chorus melody is really, really, really good. And they finally started using the actual slide away in the chorus. That's good. Like you said, they're coming back strong on this. It's a long song. It's like 650. It's, you know, the typical 90s. Okay. We can put a six minute song on things, which I don't mind six minute songs as long as it's good. Oh yeah, that's true. And it's coming to a solo now, so I'm sure the arrangement is probably gonna be a little interesting, which I think that I'll probably like. But so far so good. [00:50:40] Speaker D: Yeah. This one, they came back strong. You know, it makes you wonder again, how often times do we talk about it? What point did they record what songs? Six minute song followed by a two minute song. So it makes you wonder. Okay, maybe those other two were written towards the end and say, okay, we need to put two more songs to make this happen. And threw it in there. Wow, what a great comeback. [00:50:56] Speaker B: Verse 1 Slide away and give it all you've got My today fell in from the top. I dream of you and all the things you say I wonder where you are now hold me down all the world World's asleep Need you now you've knocked me off my feet I dream of you and we talk of growing old but you said please don't slide in Baby, together we'll fly I've tried praying But I don't know what you're saying to me now that you're mine we'll find a way of chasing the sun Let me be the one who shines with you in the morning we don't know what to do Two of a kind we'll find a way to do what we've done Let me be the one who shines with you and we can slide away Chorus, melodies, is really, really good. And then slide away Slide away Slide away away I assume we're going to be getting some kind of solo production's back. Better on this than the last two. I have high hopes that the solo will be good. Let's see. [00:52:03] Speaker A: Sa I dream of you and all the things you said I wonder where you are now Slide in baby together we'll fly I tried playing and I know just what you say to me now that you're mine we'll find a way Chasing the sun Let me be the one who shines with you it will matter we don't know what to do but you are the guy we'll find a way we do every time Let me be the one it shines with you and we can slide away Slide away Slide away Slide away Slide away way Slide away Slide away Slide away. [00:55:44] Speaker C: My only critique would be I could use a few less slide aways. I still think it was pretty good. And it isn't something that they've done in the other songs. If you wanted to keep saying slide away, I'll let him go with this one. That's pretty good. I mean, I really like that one. [00:55:59] Speaker B: Again, the laziness of not writing lyrics just frustrates me a little bit because I think he could have done something with this. I don't know why it frustrates me. Like the songs, I hate when they're that lazy and they just take the same words again and just use them again. It's a little bit frustrating. I think the outro could have been a little bit shorter. Just a little bit shorter. [00:56:16] Speaker C: Yeah. Agree. [00:56:17] Speaker B: It seemed a little self indulgent. A little bit self indulgent. And the guitar playing again, to me, as far as lead guitar playing, it's very simplistic. Sometimes I would like something a little more ripping, maybe. Again. I just don't think he's that kind of guitar player. This song could have easily been four and a half minutes. 5. You could have cut a minute and a half off of this. Really easy, but still good. And they said the actual name of the song in the chorus, which I was waiting for for the last five songs. Songs. So I want you go first. [00:56:43] Speaker C: I will say seven on arrangement. I wasn't gonna ding them. I'll ding them a little bit. But at the end of the day, I think the song is very good to go back. I can always stop at a certain point. But I will say eight on everything else. I think it's a really good song, right? [00:56:56] Speaker D: Yeah. This is a really good song. I do like it a lot. The production is great. So for me, I'm gonna go sevens across for it. It's great to be here. Thank you. It's quintuple 7 just for Nicolo, Nikki Titty, Baby Mark. [00:57:08] Speaker B: Okay. I get okay with lyrics. I like the lyrics. I do not like that he's so lazy. He can't write another verse. That just irks the out of me. I'm gonna have to ding it on lyrics. Because it's happened way too many times now and it's starting to piss me off. I'm gonna say 5 on that melody I like. I'm gonna say 6. Musicianship. 7. The arrangement could have been a little shorter at the end. I'll say six. And I like the production. I'll say seven. I really wish he would write more lyrics instead of being lazy and not writing any lyrics. And you say, yeah, it. We'll just repeat that lyrics again. Still a good song, though. Could be better. And the last song is Married With Children. [00:58:06] Speaker A: There's no need for you to say you're sorry goodbye, I'm going home I don't care no more so don't you worry goodbye, I'm going home I hate the way that even though you know you're wrong you say you're right. [00:58:39] Speaker B: I. [00:58:39] Speaker A: Hate the books you read and all your friends your music shine it keeps me up all night up all night there's no need for you to say you're sorry goodbye, I'm going home I don't care no more so don't you worry goodbye, I'm going home. [00:59:11] Speaker C: Little Beatlesque. I like it. I'm kind of. I like the. The melody. It's simple. It sounds like an album closer. [00:59:18] Speaker B: Definitely an album closer. Are definitely very, very, very Beatles influenced. I don't know what song it sounds like, but I can swear I've heard the Beatles do this. Very similar, no, very stripped down. I like the melody. I like it so far. It's definitely an end of the album track. [00:59:33] Speaker D: I kind of like how it's ending. It's definitely end of album. And like Mark said, I like it. [00:59:37] Speaker B: Frank just wants the album to end. I think that's what it is. Please end, Please Lyrics. There's no need for you to say you're sorry goodbye, I'm going home I don't care no more so don't you worry goodbye, I'm to going going home Verse. I hate the way that even though you know you're wrong you say you're right I hate the books you read and all your friends your music shite. It keeps me up all night up all night. And then back to the chorus again. It's catchy. I like it so far. Good way to end the album. All right, let's continue. Here we go. [01:00:05] Speaker A: I hate the way that you are so sarcastic and you're not very bright you think that everything you've done's fantastic your music shine it keeps me up all night up all night and it will be nice to be alone for a week or two But I know that I will be right right back here with you with you with you with you with you with you with you there's no need for you to say you're sorry Goodbye, I'm going home I, I don't care no more so don't you worry Goodbye, I'm going home. [01:01:44] Speaker C: It'S the fun little album closer. I like the little guitar thing he did. I like the intimacy of his voice that he used. This kind of shows that he can kind of do the quiet thing as well. I like the production. I liked it. [01:01:54] Speaker B: Funny thing about this song, it was recorded on an eight track in the product in one of the producers houses. It wasn't even done in a real studio. This is back in the day when you had eight track recording, a little eight track recorder. It's pretty funny. I like the guitar playing. I thought it was better than some of the other stuff. Still simple but worked perfectly for the song. I like the lyrics, like the melody. It's a cute little song for ending the record and then knowing what the next record is going to be and how big that thing's going to be. It's just setting themselves up for a big next couple of years. Let me read some lyrics and then we can get our scores. So he does change it up a little bit here, which I. I appreciate. I hate the way that you are so sarcastic and you're not very bright. You think that everything you've done is fantastic. Your music's shite. It keeps me up all night. Up all night. Only other part is the bridge. And it would be nice to be alone for a week or two. But I know then I will be right, right back here with you. With you, with you, with you with you, with you, with you. Supposedly it was about a relationship he had with his then girlfriend and the American sitcom Married with Children. But I don't know where the Married with Children bar comes in. [01:02:53] Speaker C: Maybe that's how she wanted things or maybe. [01:02:57] Speaker B: I don't know. I think I'm just gonna do six across on this. I think it's good. I think it's a good way to close the album. [01:03:03] Speaker D: Frank, I'm gonna give this one sevens. I like it. I like how they closed it out. They showed it. They can lighten it up after such a loud album. Just a really good way to end it. [01:03:13] Speaker C: Yeah, it's Steve and it's Quintuple seven Nikki Titty Baby. I'm glad we got Steve. At least his voice in this episode. Episode. I'll say six on the lyrics and seven on everything else. I liked it. That was good. I like the music. I actually like the way it sounded and the melody. Good album. Closer. Nice little thing. [01:03:32] Speaker B: I'm glad we got this. As I say all the time for records that I haven't heard in a long, long time. I actually wish it was the second one because I do like the second one a lot more than this. But this is a good record. There's a lot of good songs on here. It's very similar in some of the ways he's writing. I wish his lyric writing would be a little bit more and he wouldn't just copy himself over and over and over. It's a great record. I think even Frank has a little more respect for this thing now, comparatively, than when it was in the 90s, probably 100%. [01:03:57] Speaker D: I may not have been a fan of rock, but I cannot deny the fact that it had its influences in the 90s music revival. And when you really think about Brit rock in that time frame, a lot of great bands came out from that little time, I think span maybe two years. Just really good bands. A lot of great music. With Oasis normally being the face of that movement. Like we said a couple. A couple of times about this show, it seemed at one point they were constantly on the radio, constantly getting radio play, or constantly being played at some bar or somewhere. You just constantly heard it. And I think Supersonic was one of those 90s theme songs from that era. That really does capture it really well. Overall. Yeah, I'm not a fan of them. I don't like their music. But I can't deny it's great album overall. [01:04:39] Speaker C: I agree. I think it's a strong record. Obviously a big playlist from this one. I'm glad we got it too. I got. Had to revisit it. I don't think I gave it enough attention when I bought it. It was after I gotten the first one. It's a good lead into the next one. Without a doubt. And again, this is a band. I've said before that I kind of let go after the second. The third one came out like Master Plan. Whichever one of those came out first, I wanted the actual third one. But even going back to that, even skimming through, I said I missed a lot of good stuff here. Glad we got this one. [01:05:09] Speaker B: When I gather no Gagger has that album. Liam Galler likes that album. Like we. I said at the beginning, it's just one of those things. Where he said that the loudness thing finally got too much. But what can you do? You can't be on top forever, right? That's just the way it goes. Sav, why don't you do your thing? [01:05:24] Speaker C: So we are part of the Deep Dive Podcast network. Like I always say. Great bunch of guys took us in right away. If you want individual podcasts about Banch, check them out. We got Van Halen, Rush, Judas Priest, Tom Petty, or I Heap, you name it. It's probably, probably on there. So check them out. And mark, where can they find us. [01:05:40] Speaker B: On the Interweb rock roulette pod on all the social media. Rockroletpodcast.com leave a new bets, get some merch, go do the polls, you know what to do, stuff you should be doing. Interact with us. We want to hear what you have to say about these things. It's not just us talking into the microphone. We want to hear what you think about these albums and about the songs that we go through on the new bets. Put us on your auto download and rate us 5 stars wherever you rate your podcast because that helps us out. Next week we get to spin again, which is always awesome. And we'll see what happens. See if the wheel is going to be as favorable as it was this time. Who knows. And I guess we'll see you next week. [01:06:13] Speaker C: Ciao, ciao. [01:06:14] Speaker D: Have a good night. [01:06:15] Speaker B: Later. [01:06:32] Speaker A: It.