Episode 61 - Blink-182 - Enema Of The State

[00:00:00] Speaker A: You. [00:00:04] Speaker B: This is our musical reaction, breakdown and commentary analysis of this song. Under fair use, we intend no copyright infringement and this is not a replacement for listening to the artist's music. The content made available on this podcast is for educational and informational purposes only, notwithstanding a copyright owner's rights under the Copyright Act. Section 107 of the Copyright Act allows limited use of copyrighted material without requiring permission from the rights holders. For purposes such as education, criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship and research. These so called fair uses are permitted even if the use of the work would otherwise be infringing. Now on to the Rock Roulette Podcast. [00:00:49] Speaker A: You. [00:01:13] Speaker C: Everybody. Welcome to other episode of Rock Roulette Podcast. That's right. The podcast that took 1103 albums according to Mark, stuck them in a list. And every other week we spin the wheel and she picks an album for us and we go through it side by side. And typically one side per week. Talk about the music, production and lyrics. And we score each of them on a scale of one to ten. Again, we're just a bunch of guys who just wanted to do a podcast and we love music and just want to talk about it. And we do want to thank everybody who's listening. Supposedly we had a major spike in listeners recently, so we hope that that is true and not just some conspiracy. But again, anybody who's interacted, who's listened, we'd really thank you. Leave comments. Tell us what you like, what you don't like, maybe something you'd like us to do. We're all ears, man. And we'll always answer Mark answers right away. So again, thank everybody. So tonight we have Frank. [00:02:13] Speaker B: My name is Frank. [00:02:27] Speaker D: Hello everybody. [00:02:30] Speaker C: We have Mark. Oh, hi, Mark. [00:02:34] Speaker B: What's up, guys? [00:02:35] Speaker C: And I'm sav. [00:02:37] Speaker D: Ciao. [00:02:37] Speaker C: Buena. So last week we wrapped up Stevie Ray Vaughn's second studio album, Couldn't Stand the Weather. We had special guests chaz and Schatz from Rush Rash. We really want to say thanks to those guys again. It was a lot of fun having them on the show, and hopefully we'll do it again soon. Either we'll jump on their podcast or they'll jump on ours. And again, shout out to those guys. Listen to them. It's rush rash. And they're also part of the Deep Dive Podcast network, which I usually mention at the end, but why not give it a little shout out in the beginning? [00:03:13] Speaker B: Big plug. Big plug. [00:03:14] Speaker C: Mark, I know what you thought of the album, because you're a massive Stevie Ray Vaughn fan, right? [00:03:18] Speaker B: Yeah, I love the album. I thought it was great. I'm curious to see what other people thought who would really know the record. That's my thing. [00:03:30] Speaker C: I liked it. Other than kind of like that jazzy song. And there was another one too. Maybe the instrumental, was it? Or that was the jazzy instrumental, right? [00:03:40] Speaker B: There was two. There was one at the beginning and then one at the end. [00:03:43] Speaker C: Yeah, but I mean, listen, overall, definitely what I expected. But again, I found myself really loving his style and listening to him play. I really enjoyed his solos. Again, I'm a guy who likes guitars. Guitars who play solos would feel like David Gilmore and Theory. Ray Vaughn definitely delivers and he had a pretty good voice too. I mean, definitely a good vehicle for the lyrics and the stuff that he was playing. What about you, Frank? What do you think? [00:04:13] Speaker B: Is he gone? [00:04:14] Speaker C: I don't know. I think he's muted. [00:04:16] Speaker B: He's always muted. [00:04:20] Speaker C: Hey, this is Frank and I loved it. Okay, perfect. [00:04:22] Speaker B: Okay. There we go. Thanks, Frank. [00:04:23] Speaker A: We appreciate that. [00:04:27] Speaker D: What did I do now? [00:04:29] Speaker C: There we go. You missed your cue, man. What'd you think about the record? The Stevie Ray Vaughn. [00:04:36] Speaker D: I liked it. I really did. My experience with Stevie Ray Vaughn was always listening to Mark's Car when he played every now and again and maybe a couple of hits when you listen on the radio. But listening to the album from start to finish was really cool. I liked it. I really did. I enjoyed the whole thing. It definitely is on my next to listen to list in spotify. [00:05:03] Speaker B: Nice. [00:05:05] Speaker C: Awesome. So this is a wheel spinning week. I'm sure we're all excited by that. [00:05:12] Speaker B: Always excited. [00:05:14] Speaker D: Why don't we always excited about the wheel spinning? [00:05:16] Speaker C: Exactly. So Frank, what do you think? What do you think she's going to pick for us today? [00:05:23] Speaker D: I'm in this little bit of a 90s kick right now. I don't know what it is. Maybe because I guess because a lot of great albums were celebrating a 30 year anniversary of a lot of great albums from the 90s, influential albums. Maybe that's why I'm hoping that we get a 90s kind of thing coming up. So that's what I'm feeling right now. [00:05:47] Speaker C: Mark, what are you feeling? [00:05:49] Speaker B: I don't know what to feel. Every time I pick something, it doesn't really work. I don't know. I'm still going to hope for some 80s hair metal of some sort, even though I don't think that's what we're going to get. I'm just surprised. And I obviously added more records to the wheel, so we're up to like 1100 and whatever it is at this point. It hasn't went down since we started the podcast. It just keeps going up. [00:06:19] Speaker C: Well, there's always stuff you think about, right? Stuff that we may remember the first time we actually got together and started talking about it. And there were bands, there was like ten or twelve bands that weren't even on the list. [00:06:30] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. [00:06:31] Speaker C: And we started editing it's like, oh, I forgot about that. Forgot about them. I know Doc can just release an album, so I don't know if I. [00:06:42] Speaker B: Didn'T put that on the list yet, but yeah, it's going to go on the list, probably. [00:06:45] Speaker C: I'm thinking it's going to be something batshit nuts, something weird that's what I'm feeling. Something odd. [00:06:55] Speaker B: Yeah. I don't know what to think anymore. I wasn't expecting the last album to come up. [00:06:59] Speaker D: Do you think we're going to get the dancing one instrumental? [00:07:05] Speaker B: We're going to get what? [00:07:06] Speaker D: The dancing instrumental. [00:07:08] Speaker B: The dancing instrumental? No, probably not. [00:07:11] Speaker C: Okay. [00:07:12] Speaker D: Is that in the wheel? [00:07:13] Speaker B: No, it's not. [00:07:14] Speaker D: Why not? It's dancing, bro. [00:07:17] Speaker B: I don't know. We might have to add it. [00:07:21] Speaker C: So every week I have to add when I do my intro, I have to say the crazy podcast that took 1200 1314. [00:07:32] Speaker B: Oh, it's getting close to 1200, so well, it's not really 1200. It's eleven three. That's a lot. [00:07:40] Speaker D: I'm surprised you didn't put the dancing one, the instrumental. [00:07:46] Speaker C: No, I think you should have a point. Is it? [00:07:49] Speaker B: I'd have to look. Yeah, if it's there, we'll probably get it because Frank keeps saying it. [00:07:54] Speaker C: Exactly. [00:07:57] Speaker B: Well, there is no Village people. You can be assured of that. It's not on here. So are we ready to do this? [00:08:04] Speaker C: Ready. [00:08:05] Speaker D: By the way, do we have Elvis in the wheel? [00:08:08] Speaker B: No, we do not. [00:08:10] Speaker C: Wow. [00:08:12] Speaker B: I don't know. Do people want Elvis? I mean, we could put Elvis on. I haven't really went back that far. I think the farthest I went back is Kaim probably like mid sixty s. I haven't went farther. [00:08:21] Speaker D: Mid 60s. All right. [00:08:23] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:08:25] Speaker C: Okay. [00:08:26] Speaker B: But if we decide we want Elvis on there, we can do that. [00:08:29] Speaker D: By the way, I just want to share something really quick here. So flying back in to JFK, I got to see the TWA terminal. Okay. So the TWA terminal is kind of like a very big thing at JFK. It was like, considered one of the most epic terminals ever created during the guess. Right. And apparently that's where the Beatles went and all these celebrities hung out and things like that. And if you ever walk through the terminal, it's pretty cool. It actually feels like you go into a time warp into the 60s when it first launched. [00:09:08] Speaker B: Yeah, because it's not in use anymore. Right. [00:09:11] Speaker D: Well, they convert into a hotel. They convert into a hotel now, right. From that era. And they made it into a cocktail lounge that you have to make reservations to go and hang out. So it's actually got me to a point I'm like, you know, maybe it might be worthwhile driving to JFK to the airport terminal to hang out in this terminal of a plane to have a cocktail only you would throwback. What happened? [00:09:54] Speaker C: I love airports. Honestly, it's a throwback. [00:09:58] Speaker D: I mean, it's like literally in that terminal, you feel like you're in the 60s all over again. It's crazy the way they have everything set up and the way that they have even the way that they have all the different uniforms that they wore during that time, the pilots and the flight attendants and everything. Actually, I have to say, it's pretty damn cool. It feels like you're walking through a time warp. But honestly speaking, it's something had even like when the Beatles first landed in JFK in the US. They came through JFK and they have pictures of that. So that's pretty cool to watch. [00:10:53] Speaker B: Did your music, Frank. [00:10:57] Speaker D: Thank you. Appreciate you. I'm glad I can open about my feelings and you mock it. Thank you. [00:11:02] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:11:02] Speaker B: You never know. We're probably going to get 60s now because you talked about that. [00:11:06] Speaker D: We're going to get Led Zeppelin tonight. We're going to get Led Zeppelin tonight. [00:11:11] Speaker B: That would be fine with me. [00:11:12] Speaker C: That would be cool. Maybe some weird zeppelin. [00:11:14] Speaker D: Me, too. Let's see. Let's see what happens now. [00:11:17] Speaker B: Are we ready? Here we go. Frank is right. [00:11:45] Speaker D: What is it? What is it? [00:11:46] Speaker C: Wait, is it dancing? [00:11:47] Speaker D: We got dancing. [00:11:48] Speaker B: No. 90s. [00:11:50] Speaker C: Is it 90s? [00:11:51] Speaker D: Here we go. [00:11:53] Speaker B: Blink 182. Enema of the state. I know Sabina. Sabina loves Blink 182. It's his favorite band. [00:12:02] Speaker C: Oh, you just caught it. June 1, 1999. [00:12:07] Speaker B: Oh, wow. Frank. See, isn't this, like, their biggest album? Probably, right. I would assume. [00:12:17] Speaker C: Well, it has all the small things. [00:12:20] Speaker B: Yeah, I think it has a bunch of songs on it. There was a short one. [00:12:26] Speaker C: Maybe if we shut up, we can do the whole thing. [00:12:28] Speaker B: Is it short? [00:12:29] Speaker D: I mean, Mark correct me what an album is. Songs. [00:12:34] Speaker B: Well, no, there's a lot of songs on here people know. I meant a lot of songs that people know. Yeah. [00:12:44] Speaker D: And this is pretty much the end of the. [00:12:50] Speaker C: Trailer. [00:12:52] Speaker B: Yes. Who produced this thing? Let's see. Jerry Finn. Jerry Finn and Tom Lord. Algae mixed it. He's popular. He mixed a lot of stuff. [00:13:10] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:13:12] Speaker B: I don't know who jerry Finn, 2008? Yeah. Wow. He worked with it with a lot. [00:13:19] Speaker C: Of within this genre. Blink 182 AFI some 41. The alcalentria was really good. [00:13:24] Speaker B: Rancid. Wow. That's crazy. Nuts. [00:13:41] Speaker C: My daughter knows Travis Barker very well because she watches the Kardashians with my oh, there you go. [00:13:47] Speaker B: I feel for you. I feel for you. [00:13:49] Speaker C: I'm going to tell her. She's going to be so excited. [00:13:53] Speaker B: So it says Mark Hoppers on bass and vocals. Tom DeLong on guitars and vocals who just came back to Blink 182. [00:14:00] Speaker C: Yeah. I was going to say didn't yeah, they just yeah. [00:14:03] Speaker B: And Travis barkhar on judge. Well, I think what happened because Mark Hoppass got cancer and I guess he beat cancer and I guess they were broken up for a while, so I guess they figured, why we're not doing this. Which sometimes it takes that to get people back. A big tom DeLong is a big UFO conspiracy theory guy. I think he went off and did that meanwhile, and then he what? Angels and airwaves. Isn't that his band when he wasn't in Blink? [00:14:34] Speaker C: I think so. It sounds familiar. I mean, I don't know a lot about him, we're going to be honest. I just know. [00:14:40] Speaker B: Pretty positive. Yeah. Angels and airwaves. I actually like a bunch of songs on here. I don't hate this record. I know. I've heard the whole thing at one point all the way through. But it's been a long, long time. [00:14:54] Speaker C: I've never heard this all the way through. [00:14:56] Speaker B: Oh, wow. [00:14:57] Speaker C: Yeah. Well, I was never a fan, honestly speaking. [00:15:00] Speaker B: I know. Well, that's what I was saying. It's your most favorite record. [00:15:03] Speaker C: I mean, listen, I didn't hate them, but I just never really kind of followed on them. All the Small Things is a fun song to play on the drums. [00:15:17] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. I think their stuff is very catchy. They have a good catchy stuff. [00:15:25] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:15:27] Speaker B: It's typical of the genre, right? Pop, punk. I don't remember all the songs. I think What's My Age Again is one of my favorite songs from them. [00:15:38] Speaker C: I think I know that song. I just don't know by the title. [00:15:41] Speaker B: I'm sure you know it. Once it comes on, you're going to know what it is. You're going to know what it is. But they were big. Technically, I think they're still big. I don't know if I put their new record on here, but Frank got his thing just by one year. He got it at the end. So are we ready to do this? [00:16:11] Speaker D: Like I said, 1999 was a very awkward year. It really was. When it comes to everything, music, Y two K overall, pop culture, it it was like an age of transition. [00:16:29] Speaker B: Well, everybody expected the planes to fall out of the sky and then the computers to work. [00:16:36] Speaker D: Putting that whole Y two K thing aside, it was a very awkward change from this free loving life is a party kind of 1990s era to this whole seriousness of the 2000s. If you really look at it right, like that whole time, that conversion to the 2000s, life was very simple in the this is pretty much the tail end of that fun era into a more serious time frame. [00:17:10] Speaker B: Yeah. And the Internet wasn't as big through two or three years. Not everybody had it still. It was just when everyone was starting to get that kind of stuff but. [00:17:21] Speaker D: Didn'T have it, it's bizarre. My first experience with the internet was Arizona State. So here I am at Arizona State University, and they were, you know, you have to go to register your classes. And I'm with Jen Black at the time. For those who don't know, Jen Black is a longtime friend of mine. So we went down and she was like, okay, we need to register. We go down. And it was like, you have to go on the Internet. It's like, the Internet? [00:17:47] Speaker B: What the fuck is that? [00:17:50] Speaker D: This is 95. That was 95. And it was like, go to the Internet. Mind you, back in the east coast. Here I am in junior college. And if you're in the East Coast and you went to college, if your college had the dial by registration you were advanced, most of us had to go and stand in line and it looked like a zombie acropolis because you had to run to your classes and go and register. Whatever the case was, it was insane. But anyway, the whole thing is like 1999 for me, was like the end of this whole age of party and innocence and the dawn of seriousness. [00:18:33] Speaker B: And then when you went on the Internet, you heard this. [00:18:37] Speaker D: Oh, yes. [00:18:43] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:18:43] Speaker B: I never want to hear that sound again. It just meant, oh, you're connected, and it's going to be slow as shit. It's hard to even remember how bad that was, but that's crazy. All right, well, I'm excited for Savina to listen to this because I know he's not a big fan of these guys, so maybe this will turn him around, who knows? All right, so the first song is Dump Weed. Do you have a recollection of this, Frank? I think I remember the song, but I'm not positive. [00:19:21] Speaker D: A little bit. A little bit, yeah. Not too much. [00:19:24] Speaker B: Here we go. It it's super catchy, man. Even instrumental now. We remember this 100%. I hadn't listened this in a long, long time. But, yeah, I played this album a lot. I think from what I remember, I liked it a lot. [00:20:00] Speaker C: I have never heard it. No. [00:20:01] Speaker B: You've never heard that? Wow. Frank, do you remember the song? [00:20:06] Speaker D: Yes, I do. [00:20:07] Speaker B: Yeah. As soon as I heard it, I was like, oh, yeah, I know this song. [00:20:11] Speaker C: I mean, it would have to be a big hit for me to have heard it. [00:20:14] Speaker B: It's super catchy. It's super duper catchy. All right, let's continue. [00:20:23] Speaker A: To stay I said I'd leave I can never leave her if I did, you know I'd never cheat her and if I ask do I want to know? How would you feel if I should just go? Another guy, you think you'd be unlike me another guy you think you'd want to fight me here on the go and it's way too late I can train I heard it once. Yeah. [00:21:10] Speaker B: So I'm going to read you some lyrics. Savino, you ready? [00:21:14] Speaker C: I'm ready. [00:21:15] Speaker B: Okay. It's understood I said it many ways too scared to run I'm too scared to stay I said I'd leave I can never leave her if I did, you don't know I'd never cheat her but this I ask this is what I want to know how would you feel if I chose to go? Another guy do you think he'd be unlike me? Another guy do you think he'd want to fight me? And then the chorus is she's a dove? She's a fucking nightmare. Unpredictable is my mistake to stay here on the go it's way too late to play I need a girl that I can train so, not horrible. Not horrible. Well, yeah, he's a good drummer, though. He's a good drummer. I don't expect any spectacular things to come out of the lyrics, but they could be way worse. [00:22:06] Speaker C: I'm waiting for the UFO stuff. [00:22:08] Speaker B: I don't know if there's any UFO stuff. [00:22:10] Speaker C: No, I don't know. I mean, I read a quick thing. They said there might have been some stuff that crept in early in this record. [00:22:17] Speaker B: I'm sure there probably is. And to me, I got to say, though, the guitar stuff, even though I don't consider this like a big guitar record, for me, I think the pieces are very catchy. Like the little guitar things that he does, they're very catchy. They're not complicated or super hard to play. But I think as you go through, you're going to hear that's the kind of style of what he does. And for me, it's a two minute and something song, but it's super catchy. [00:22:46] Speaker C: I don't think things need to be complicated to be good. I mean, never mind. The Bullocks is one of my favorite albums of all time and I can probably play every riff. [00:22:55] Speaker B: Yeah. There you go. What do you think, Frank? [00:22:59] Speaker D: I like it. It's very catchy, very upbeat, even though. [00:23:06] Speaker B: The lyrics are not super. [00:23:09] Speaker D: You know, one of the things I want to call out here is, is this the beginning of that whole I know I'm going to butcher the whole thing. Mo movement. [00:23:21] Speaker B: Emo. No, this is not emo. [00:23:22] Speaker D: Emo? [00:23:23] Speaker A: No. [00:23:23] Speaker C: Really? [00:23:24] Speaker D: You don't think so? [00:23:25] Speaker B: No, this is pop. This is still pop punk. This is the stuff that started with Green Greed. [00:23:31] Speaker D: Yeah, but it kind of has the undertones. I mean, we're going to hear the rest of the album determine then, but I think they kind of start I think they were the dawn of that genre. [00:23:42] Speaker B: I mean, I could be wrong. I don't hear much emo. Emo is a little more depressing than this. [00:23:46] Speaker D: Okay, well, let's just hear okay, let's continue. [00:23:51] Speaker A: I'm sure I heard it twice. My dad. You see me, all of his advice. You say, you got to turn your back and run. Now, come on, son. You ever got a chance? Now she's a duck. She's a fucking nightmare. I forget the balls. On the go and it's way too late too righty girl that I can't try to she's a fuck nightmare I forget the boy on the go it's way too late too I need a girl that I can trade a girl that I can trade need a girl that I can trade turn your back and run now you ever got a chance now that I can't train need a girl that I can't train you ever got a chance now. [00:25:09] Speaker B: And he has that he has that little the way his voice sounds, it's very he's got a little bit of. [00:25:16] Speaker C: Accent that goes nasal thing going. [00:25:18] Speaker B: Yeah, definitely. So I heard it once. I'm sure I've heard it twice. My dad used to give me all of his advice. He would say, You've got to turn your back and run now come on, son, you haven't got a chance now. And then the chorus is again, she's a dub. She's a fucking nightmare. Unpredictable it's my mistake to stay here on the go and it's way too late to play I need a girl that I can train now what does he mean by a girl that can train? Do. What is my question? To actually listen to him, I guess she's just a hard girl to deal. [00:25:55] Speaker C: With, to be the way he needs her to be. Maybe because she's a dove. But she's a nightmare. She's unpredictable. [00:26:02] Speaker B: So she can be super nice at one point and the next it could be a nightmare. So basically, they repeat that twice and then the outro is I need a girl that I can train I need a girl that I can train turn your back and run now you haven't got a chance now and they repeat that again, so super fast. I like the guitar parts. I don't know. I can't tell you why I like the guitar parts, but it's super duper catchy. So obviously, I'm not like, saying this is the best rock song in the world, but I don't hate it. I don't hate it. So obviously you can go first because I know you. Yeah, you go first. [00:26:52] Speaker C: I don't know, man. I don't know. Five on the lyrics because I think they're just kind of made to rhyme. I'm going to say a six on the music only because of the drums. Production is fine. I'll say seven on production. I just not my cup of tea at all. [00:27:16] Speaker B: That's way better than I thought it was. [00:27:20] Speaker C: I'm being nice. [00:27:23] Speaker B: You can say whatever you want, but. [00:27:24] Speaker C: I'm saying, unless somebody plays this song for me again, I will never listen to this song again. I promise you. This stuff is just not my cup of tea. Why don't you go, Mark? [00:27:36] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:27:37] Speaker B: I'm going to say five in the lyrics. I don't think the lyrics are spectacular, I think they could be way worse. So I'll give them a five just for that. [00:27:45] Speaker C: They definitely could be, yeah. [00:27:47] Speaker B: Musicianship, six. Is it anything spectacular? Like, listen. Is he? As good as guitar player Steve Ray Vaughan. Not even on Steve Ray Vaughn. If he had hand cramps and was playing the guitar the wrong direction and. [00:28:03] Speaker C: Think if he had listen and this is not to knock, because, again, like I said, I like punk, the simplicity of it. So I'm not knocking. I think a lot of it has to do with the voice. That voice just great to me. No end. [00:28:21] Speaker B: Yeah, well, there are two singers, so maybe the second other singer won't be as bad for you. [00:28:25] Speaker C: It could be, yeah, that's what I mean. Is this the guy who sings all the small things? [00:28:32] Speaker B: Forget it. [00:28:33] Speaker C: Doesn't sound like it. It sounds a little bit more, but I could be more. [00:28:37] Speaker B: Compass is the bass player, so this is Tom DeLong. So the nasally thing is Tom DeLong. And production. Yeah, it's fine, actually. You can hear everything. Everything's separated pretty good. So I'm going to give it the obligatory seven for production. I don't hate it, Frank. [00:28:58] Speaker D: Yeah. You know what? I know exactly what songs it'll make the playlist. When we decorate for Savino's tree decorating party, it's going to be Blink 182, so it'll make sure it makes it there. Honestly, speaking, to me personally, I think this is ushering in a whole new generation of music. Right. Music that maybe is a little beyond what we're used to. So, for me, I'm going to give the whole production an eight. I really do. I think it captures what it's supposed to be, exactly how it's supposed to be. So I'm going to give that an eight. I'm going to give the musicianship an eight. The lyrics, not so much. I'm not crazy about the lyrics, honestly. I don't know where they're trying to go with it. So I'm going to give it a five. [00:29:50] Speaker B: Yeah. I agree that the lyrics could be lyrics could be better. Lyrics could be better. Again, it's short, so don't worry. You're not going to listen to it for very long. [00:30:01] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:30:02] Speaker B: Okay. So this is Mark Hoppas this time. This is. Don't leave me. I remember this one, too. I like the drums. Drums are really good. [00:30:25] Speaker C: Yeah, that's what I liked about the first song. [00:30:30] Speaker B: I think this is less poppy punk. This is a little more punky punk to me. Even the guitar tone sounds a little different. [00:30:38] Speaker C: Yeah, that whole polished punk thing, too, just wasn't a massive green day. Punk is meant to be dirty. When it gets this polished, it's pseudo punk to me. [00:30:54] Speaker B: Yeah, I can understand that. [00:30:56] Speaker C: Me personally, I mean, listen, I know a lot of people, obviously, that it's just me. I like that raw, dirty style of it. [00:31:07] Speaker D: I'm right there with you, Seth. I'm right there with you. Punk is supposed to be raw, unedited. This is what you got. Take it or leave it. [00:31:17] Speaker B: What did this thing sell? [00:31:19] Speaker C: It's had to sell. [00:31:20] Speaker B: Well, it was a lot. Right. I'm trying to look here. If it tells me, I want to. [00:31:25] Speaker C: Say it's got to be at least a couple of million. [00:31:28] Speaker B: I think it might be more than that. 15 million copies? [00:31:36] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:31:38] Speaker B: That's a gigantic record. It's diamond. I figured. All right, I'm going to back. [00:31:44] Speaker C: I was judging it by today's standards. [00:31:46] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:31:47] Speaker C: Wrong era. [00:31:48] Speaker B: Yeah. If you sell a million today, it's like 50 million. All right, here we go. [00:31:54] Speaker A: Don't leave me all alone just drop me off at home I'll be fine it's not the first just like last time, but a little worse. And she said that I'm not one that she thinks about it she said it stop being fun I just bring it down she said to let my door hit you. [00:32:36] Speaker B: I kind of like that little breakdown. I like when he hits the ride at the end of that. Like, he does the he does the hitting the snare and then hits the ride. I kind of like that. [00:32:42] Speaker C: There's a lot of little accents and stuff like that. I mean, I like stuff like he's definitely a good drummer. He does suffer interest. [00:32:51] Speaker B: So, you ready for lyrics? Here we go. Don't leave me all alone. Just drop me off at home I'll be fine. It's not the first just like the last time but a little worse and she said that I'm not the one that she thinks about and she said that it stopped being fun I just bring her down I said don't let your future be destroyed by my past that's a good line, but they can't fucking help themselves. And then he goes she said, don't let the door hit your ass so obviously she's kicking him out, right? I'm assuming she's leaving him and she wants him to go. But that's a good line. Don't let your future be destroyed by my past but they can't hold on to it. Yeah, I know. I mean, couldn't they rhyme it with something else again? It's written for teenagers. Right. I don't know how old they were here. So what is this? This is 99, right. [00:33:48] Speaker C: I don't think they were kids at this point. [00:33:51] Speaker B: No, they were in their 20s. I'm sure they were at one time. [00:33:55] Speaker C: Well, I mean, kids listen at this point. I consider 25, 26 year old kids at this point. [00:34:01] Speaker B: So he was born in 72. I know now he was born in 72. So in 99, he was what, 82, 92? He's 27. Yeah. [00:34:13] Speaker C: He's older than I was in 99. [00:34:15] Speaker B: Yeah. And Tom DeLong. How old is he? He was born in 75. So Tom DeLong is one year younger than you. But still, this is nothing new. Rock stars have been writing about teenage stuff. So this was big because it was a teenage. Lot of teenagers bought this record, starting with what, Dookie was, what, 95, I think. Right. So that's kind of where this poppy punk stuff kind of came into the mainstream. [00:34:44] Speaker D: Absolutely, yeah. [00:34:46] Speaker B: Four more years later. Right. [00:34:47] Speaker D: And this record absolutely started Green Day in 95. Yeah. [00:34:52] Speaker B: I mean, it was always around probably in the Underground. It's just when it got super popular. All right, here we go. [00:34:59] Speaker A: One more chance. I'll try this time. I'll give you yours. I won't take mine. I'll listen up. Pretend to care. Go on ahead. I'll meet you there. She said that I love what? That she thinks about it. She says I'll be fine I just bring her down and let your future be destroyed by my bad she said I don't one let's try this one more time one more time one more time one more time. [00:35:54] Speaker C: I like the. [00:35:54] Speaker B: Double vocals on that. That was pretty neat. [00:35:57] Speaker C: Yeah, I like his voice better. [00:35:59] Speaker B: Yeah, I. [00:35:59] Speaker C: Figured it's deeper. [00:36:01] Speaker B: Yeah, it's not as nasally. And the other guy sings all the. [00:36:06] Speaker C: Small things he's got to be. [00:36:07] Speaker B: Yeah. And Tom DeLong has some other weird inflection in his voice, too, besides the nasal thing. I could see why that would drive people crazy. All right, so one more chance. I'll try this time. I'll give you yours. I won't take mine. I'll listen up. Pretend to care. Go on ahead. I'll meet you there. And she said that I'm not the one she thinks about. And she said it. Stopped being fun I just bring her down. I said, don't let your future be destroyed by my past. She said, don't let the door hit your ass and then the bridge is let's try this one more time with feeling. So not a lot of lyrics. [00:36:48] Speaker A: But. [00:36:49] Speaker B: I like the drums, and it's weird you can tell the different writers because there's a lot less of the fun little guitar pieces like they were in the first song. But that bridge, I think they do similar bridges in this record, like the way that bridge comes in, the speed of it, and if I remember correctly, there's a little bit more of that, so they have a kind of style when it comes to that stuff. All right, let's continue. [00:37:21] Speaker A: She said it stopped being fun I just bring her down I said to let your future be destroyed by my past she said, let my door hit you right don't leave me all alone just drop me off at home and I'll be fine you. [00:38:00] Speaker B: Holding that cord. It's a little long. I don't hate it. [00:38:04] Speaker D: It's weird that it was that long. You took the horse right out of my mouth. I wanted to say, Mark, how do you feel about that ending? [00:38:11] Speaker B: I actually don't hate that ending. It's a little long. I don't think it need to be that long, but I don't hate it. [00:38:18] Speaker A: I think they do that on purpose, though. [00:38:20] Speaker C: You know what I mean? Just one of those things. [00:38:22] Speaker B: Oh, I'm sure you just kind of. [00:38:23] Speaker C: Let it go and see how long it goes. And it's fine. [00:38:26] Speaker B: Yeah, it's fine. It's fine. It's fine. Frank, why don't you go first? [00:38:37] Speaker D: Can you guys hear me? There you go. I like it. I like it a lot. I think, again, the music is very fitting for what they're targeting for, and the whole engineering part of it is it just captures everything. So I'm going to give that an eight. The music an eight. The lyrics, I understand where they're going with it. I can't relate to it. But trying to be neutral, I'm going to give that a seven. So seven, eight, and. [00:39:11] Speaker B: SAF Seth. [00:39:18] Speaker A: You. [00:39:18] Speaker B: Got to rate the lyrics one more than the last one just because of that one line. [00:39:21] Speaker C: I do like that song. I do like that couplet. So I'm going to say what I say last time. Six. [00:39:28] Speaker B: No, five. [00:39:30] Speaker C: All right. I'll say six this time. [00:39:33] Speaker B: Okay. That's still better than I thought. [00:39:38] Speaker C: Music. I don't know if I liked it better or less than the last one. I was saying again, I like the drums. I'll say six just because of the drums. And reduction. Seven. Everything is clear. But again, not a song I'll ever go back to. I'm being respectful. And again, please, everybody, understand, this is just not my cup of tea. [00:40:04] Speaker B: Oh, you can hammer this if you want. I have no problem with that. [00:40:07] Speaker C: I don't like hammering anything, because as musicians, you know what I mean, there's stuff you're going to like. There's stuff you're not going to like. I don't want to be like a dick about things. Oh, my God. I mean, again, this is not my I just think within what they're doing, it's fine. But as far as me ever listening to this stuff, again, definitely not. [00:40:30] Speaker B: Okay, mark, I'm giving the same six, six, seven that you did. I like the drums. I think I like the way his voice sounds a little bit better. At least on this song. Production is still the same. It sounds good. It's not horrible. I can hear everything. There's not as much little guitar thingies riffs and little pieces that they puts in. So I do miss that part of it, but I don't hate it. [00:41:02] Speaker C: Breakdown that started was cool. [00:41:05] Speaker B: I like the little part when he was hitting the Snare and then he went to the ride at the end of it. I like that he does a lot. [00:41:09] Speaker C: Of little accents, which, as a drummer, I really appreciate. I like when they do stuff like that. [00:41:14] Speaker B: Well, so the next one. The next one's. Aliens exist. So here's your alien song. [00:41:20] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:41:20] Speaker B: And this is Tom DeLong again. So here we go. [00:41:30] Speaker A: There's something in the back room hope it's not the creatures from above you used to read me stories as if my dreams were boring we all know conspiracies are dumb what if people knew that these were real? I leave my closet door open all night. I know the CIA would say what you hear is all hearsay. Wish someone would tell me what was right all night long. And there's something very wrong. And I know it must be late because yesterday I'm not like you guys. I'm not like you're. [00:42:47] Speaker B: It so what do you think about that? I think the drums are really good in this song. Yeah, I like the drums a lot. [00:42:55] Speaker C: He's actually playing I like that he's playing behind the beat at one point. So it's almost like he's off time, but he's not. And it's just right on the verge, which is really cool. I mean, lyrically, to me, it's more interesting than what's come before it just because I like stuff like this. But I mean, again. [00:43:15] Speaker B: Well, it was kind of funny when he did the second verse and he said, what if people knew these were real, I knew there was going to be a repeat and delay on that. I'm like, oh, here it comes. Now. That could just be because I've listened to the song a bunch of times or it's just kind of like stock to what to do. For me, the guitar playing is what it is. I'm not making this out to be any more or better than any other punk I've heard. You know what I mean? It is what it is. It's not very interesting in the fact of riff wise and stuff. There's not a lot of that going on again, but I appreciate the drums. And his voice is unique. I mean, I could see why people wouldn't like his voice, though. Here we go. [00:43:57] Speaker C: I mean, I think within this genre, he sounds exactly like everybody else. [00:44:00] Speaker B: You think so? [00:44:02] Speaker C: Absolutely. That high nasaling. [00:44:08] Speaker D: Who's everybody else during that time who. [00:44:11] Speaker C: Would newfound glory whatever band you want to. All right. What's his name has a more unique voice. The dude from what's his name? Billy Joel. Billy joe. [00:44:24] Speaker D: He's 95. He's five years. [00:44:27] Speaker C: I mean, if you're going to classify this in the same genre, though, right? And again, listen, if anybody listens like, no, that's not the same type of music. I mean, to me it sounds like that. [00:44:42] Speaker B: Well, here are some lyrics, so hey, mom, there's something in the back room hope it's not the creatures from above you used to read me stories as if my dreams were boring we all know that conspiracies are dumb what if people knew that these were real? I leave my closet door open all night. I know the CIA would say what you hear is all hearsay. I wish someone would tell me what was right. And then the chorus is up all night long and there's something very wrong and I know it must be late been gone since yesterday. I'm not like you guys. I'm not like you. So I think lyric wise, it's getting a little bit better anyway. [00:45:22] Speaker C: Yeah, definitely my favorite so far. [00:45:25] Speaker A: Okay. [00:45:26] Speaker B: Yeah. Going to break him down. Here we go. [00:45:32] Speaker A: I am still a skeptic, yes, you know me been best friends it will be till we die I got an injection, a fear from the abduction my best friend thinks I'm just telling lies all right. And I know it must be gone since yesterday I'm not like you guys I'm not like you. [00:46:55] Speaker B: Back this up so I can read some lyrics. I'm still a skeptic, yes, you know me been best friends and will be till we die got an injection of fear from the abduction my best friend thinks I'm just telling lies all right, and then back to the chorus again. I like the little end of the chorus that they change it up a little bit. The part I'm not like you guys. [00:47:19] Speaker C: Before, that little middle break part was. [00:47:22] Speaker B: So that's dark and scary. Ordinary explanation, information nice to know your paranoia where's my mother biofather? So I kind of think that the lyrics in the song a little bit better than his lyrics in Dump Weed. So it's a different subject, too. Something I guess he really is passionate about. He writes a little bit better lyrics. [00:47:46] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:47:48] Speaker B: All right, let's finish it up. We got 30, 32 seconds. [00:47:55] Speaker A: All night long and there's something very wrong and I know it must be late it's gone since yesterday not like you guys twelve majestic lie does the. [00:48:34] Speaker B: Same chorus, except at the end he says, I'm not like you guys twelve majestic lies. That's catchy. Yeah, it's catchy. I'll go first, I guess. So I'm going to give seven on the lyrics. I think it's better than any of the lyrics that came prior. Musicianship, to me, is still in the sixes because I don't think it's super hard to play it. I like the little riff. I like that it broke it up a little bit. Just being power chords all the way through the whole thing. And production, I'm still giving seven. I still think everything's still produced very well, regardless of whether I like everything that's being done. I can hear everything and there's not really any muddiness. Everything's separated pretty good. So I like it. Nick? Nick's not here. [00:49:27] Speaker C: Savino yeah, I'll say seven on the lyrics. I mean, I love stuff like, um, music. I'll say six again. I mean, again, just because of the drums, or else these are probably all be fours, maybe fives. [00:49:46] Speaker D: There you go. [00:49:46] Speaker C: And again, production on seven. I'll say seven on the production. Frank. [00:49:55] Speaker D: You know what, Mark? You were thinking about Nick because I'm about to give you a reason to think about Nick. So for me, the lyrics, I like the sevens. Right? I'm right there with the lyrics, the music, I think they're right there for the time that they were coming out. The genre they're going for. So it's right there. So I'm going to give it a seven. And the engineering, guess what? I'm going to give it eight. No, seven. [00:50:24] Speaker B: I gave all the other ones an eight. Well, I get it now. I know. Hold it, hold it. [00:50:34] Speaker D: So I give this a seven on this one here. [00:50:37] Speaker B: I got you, Nicky Titty, baby. [00:50:39] Speaker A: Seven, seven, seven. [00:50:41] Speaker D: There you go. [00:50:43] Speaker B: Nick's here now. [00:50:44] Speaker D: Yeah, Nick is here. But I have to say, I think so far they're right there for their era. For me, personally, I know the two of you are looking at from a different angle when it comes to the music and the composition and things like that. I'm just looking at it from the listener perspective and what they're trying to capture in that moment in that era. And I think they're right there. [00:51:08] Speaker B: No, yeah. I mean, this genre was popular from the mid to the late ninety s, and it's produced very well, at least production wise, as far as playing wise. Obviously, Travis Barker is the most talented person in this band, from my opinion. As far as a musician goes, I don't think it's very hard to play any of the stuff on guitar that's being played right now. But you know what? Sometimes that's okay, because if you're a kid trying to learn how to play guitar, it's good that things are not super hard to play. Right. It feels like you can accomplish something because you can actually play this stuff. [00:51:45] Speaker A: Wow. [00:51:45] Speaker B: I can play this whole song. So in that way you can look at it a couple of ways, I guess. [00:51:50] Speaker D: Yeah, exactly. You can look at it from all kind of angles. Right. Say, okay, this is not that complicated, so we're not going to give them a high score. But at the same time, are they capturing the sound of the time that they're producing? And that's what I'm listening to. And I think this is a very good job of capturing the sound that they were at the time that they were recording this. [00:52:16] Speaker B: I agree. Okay, so the next one is going away to college. [00:52:23] Speaker A: You. [00:52:42] Speaker B: I could see Savino writing that riff for me and giving that to me. [00:52:46] Speaker C: I think I did. [00:52:47] Speaker B: You might have. [00:52:48] Speaker C: Bastard stole it from me. Honestly, it does sound familiar, though. You know what? I was thinking the same thing, so. [00:52:54] Speaker B: I really was like, Sabina would write a riff just like that. [00:52:58] Speaker C: Yeah, that's the extent of my that's. [00:53:03] Speaker B: Okay. Hey, listen, again, we said doesn't have to be complicated. [00:53:06] Speaker C: No, I honestly was thinking the same thing again. It's always about complicated, man. Look at the stones. Right? Come on. I mean, it's not all complicated to be whatever. [00:53:17] Speaker B: True. All right, here we go. [00:53:33] Speaker A: It's so cold out tonight I'll put blankets on the bed I won't turn out the light just don't forget to think about me and I won't forget you all right. You won't reach you dead. [00:54:00] Speaker B: There'S a little cool little drum thing that was going on. That little off time thing. [00:54:03] Speaker C: Yeah, it's like that kind of instead of going right back into it, there's like that step. [00:54:10] Speaker B: Yeah. He impresses me, though. I've never really listened to the drums that intently on this record. But, yeah, again, I think, talent wise, I give him more of the props in that situation for me. All right, here we go. [00:54:28] Speaker C: Well, I mean, he's following what they're playing, too, right? You give them some props, too, kind of every once in a while, throwing in that little off thing, which is cool. I mean, I like stuff like that. [00:54:42] Speaker A: Why does it feel the same to fall in love or break it up? And if young love is just a game in I must admit the kick up don't depend on me to ever fall through anything I go through hell for you and I haven't been scared in a long time and I'm so unprepared so here's your Valentine. Who cares? A simple melody this world but you're so beautiful of me. [00:55:23] Speaker B: So let's do some lyrics here. So please take me by the hand. It's so cold out tonight. I'll put blankets on the bed, I won't turn out the light. Just don't forget to think about me and I won't forget you. I'll write you once a week, she said. And then second verse. Why does it feel the same to fall in love or break it off? And if young love is just a game then it must have missed a kickoff. I don't depend on me to even ever follow through on anything but I'd go through hell for you. And now the chorus. I haven't been this scared in a long time. I'm so unprepared. So here's your Valentine bouquet of clumsy words a simple melody this world's an ugly place but you're so beautiful to me. Not horrible, but again, this is definitely geared right toward the teenage boy and girl, right? Pretty much, yeah. [00:56:19] Speaker C: That's what it sounds like. [00:56:21] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:56:21] Speaker C: Well, it's actually college. What's the name of that? Going to college. [00:56:25] Speaker B: Going away to college. So, yeah. [00:56:31] Speaker D: Very emo. [00:56:33] Speaker B: You think this is emo? I don't think this is emo. [00:56:36] Speaker D: I think it is. Emo is all about listen, I just. [00:56:38] Speaker C: Ran angry reddits of people who call this emo really happened. No. To people getting angry at people who call it emo. [00:56:49] Speaker B: Yeah. I don't think this is emo. They hate you, Frank. They hate you. [00:56:53] Speaker D: They could suck a know, all of them. They're so fucking sensitive. You turn on the lights too bright, they fucking cry. They could suck a so anyway, my whole point is this sounds very emo. Okay? [00:57:06] Speaker B: It's a departure. [00:57:10] Speaker D: You know what? Okay, all kidding aside, in respect of the music and the genre, this is a departure from that whole Seattle sound that I was used to, where life was miserable and depressing and we hung out in coffee shops to talk about it, right? To this whole, like, hey, I'm going to express myself openly. And that's what this whole emo right. [00:57:34] Speaker B: Emo thing emo. [00:57:36] Speaker D: Okay. Emo is about that right. Hey, I'm not going to repress my feelings. I'm going to express it out there. I'm going to put it out there. You can take it or leave it and I'm not going to be upset about it. And that's that whole movement was about so what we're seeing is a transition from 98, 99, 2000. We saw this new transition to this new genre. And that's how I view it. At least personally, that's how I view it. So I respect the music. It's not for me, but I respect it. [00:58:05] Speaker B: Okay, well, here we go. [00:58:18] Speaker A: I'll think about the time she kissed me after classes. She put up with my friends. I acted like an assigned ditch. My lecture is my picture. I haven't had mistake in a long time and I'm prepared. So here's your valentine. Okay. Once you were a simple melody this was a lovely place but you're so beautiful. [00:59:17] Speaker B: And you know the funny part about that, too? I can hear Savino playing that same exact drum part. [00:59:21] Speaker C: Yeah. And Nick playing that bass over, huh? [00:59:24] Speaker B: That's pretty crap. Oh, crap. We're pop punk. How'd that happen? [00:59:29] Speaker D: I have to tell you, I love the drums. The drums are great. [00:59:32] Speaker C: I mean, I know we had some songs that sounded like that, but it wasn't. [00:59:36] Speaker B: No, I know. It's just funny. When I heard, I was like, oh, deservino's riff again. And look, the drum thing, he would probably do the same thing. [00:59:42] Speaker C: That was funny because I was thinking, oh, I could put your nickname in that bass. [00:59:47] Speaker B: All right, so here's the verse. I'll think about the time she kissed me after class and she put up with my friends I acted like an ass I ditched my lecture to watch the girls play soccer is my picture still hanging in her locker? And back to the chorus. I haven't been this scared in a long time I'm so unprepared so here's your Valentine bouquet of clumsy words a simple melody this world's an ugly place but you're so beautiful and then the little instrumental piece. And then basically it's going to be chorus going out. So let's chorus ourselves out in a long time. [01:00:24] Speaker A: And I'm so unprepared a simple melody place but you're so beautiful. [01:00:43] Speaker B: Now they love that end, obviously. So now I'm going to talk about the ends. Do they have to end every fucking song with just a chord? The fuck? I liked it the first time. Is it? Yeah, I guess. [01:00:57] Speaker C: I think so. [01:01:01] Speaker B: All right, Sav. Go ahead. It's your turn. [01:01:05] Speaker C: All right. I mean, here's the deal. I like the sentiment behind the mean. I gave the last one a seven. So I'm just going to give it a six, though, just because I like the other one better. But I do appreciate the sentiment of the song. Again, the music is same to me. I'll say six again because they do a couple of cool things and I like the drum and production is a seven. So believe me, I'm waiting for that song where I'm like, oh, shit. You know what I mean? I'm waiting for it. But. [01:01:40] Speaker B: No, I get it. I had a feeling this is a tough ride for you. [01:01:44] Speaker C: Listen, there's just some stuff that sticks with people and then some stuff that. [01:01:56] Speaker B: Before we frankincense, this really wasn't our demographic at the time. So again, I can understand. Like if you were in high school and this came out, you super love this stuff and you're probably still going to see Blink 182, you know what I mean? Now that they're back together. All right, Frank. Go ahead. [01:02:17] Speaker D: You know what? I agree with you 100%, Mark. This is not my cup of tea. This is my time. This is my era. It's kind of like a roller coaster, right? At the end of the ride, you're coasting back to where you got off and got on and it's like, okay, that was fun, and whatever. The ride starts over again. This genre is, for me, like a new ride that I never got back on. So I can't relate to it, but understand what they're going with it, the lyrics. I'm going to give it a six like Sav. And again, I guess it's just I just can't understand it that well. The music ship and the engineering, I'm going to give those a seven. I mean, the music is right there. It's great. The drumming is great. I like it a lot. And the engineering, just everything sounds so clear and it's awesome. So six, seven, seven for me. [01:03:12] Speaker B: Okay. I'm doing the same thing. Six, seven, seven. It's kind of funny. Like I'm saying, Savino doesn't like this thing and my scores are the same scores as his. I think Savino, if he really wanted to give scores, they would be much lower than this. I think he's holding mean listen, ultimately. [01:03:27] Speaker C: Like I said, I do have respect for the musicians and what they're doing and these cool elements. But again, I promise you, as of right now, there's not a single song that I'm going to go back to on this record. [01:03:41] Speaker B: Without a doubt, I know I get you well again. [01:03:47] Speaker C: You don't want to be we've definitely heard worse. [01:03:55] Speaker B: Yeah. I think the songs are they're super fast. You got to give them credit. They're not dragging things out in and out. So even if you don't like it, really, the longest song in this record is four minutes, but most of the songs are under three. [01:04:11] Speaker D: But you have to also understand, it's a transition. This album came out during an age of transition in music, where you had a lot of complex melodies and lyrics and compounded meanings and delivery of music. Right. So all of a sudden, everything's going to be light hearted, straightforward. Here it is. And that's that. And I think Blink 182 was one of those bands that just said, we're going to keep it simple. Our lyrics are simple. Here it is. And that's that. [01:04:43] Speaker B: Yeah. It's not as depressing as the early mid 90s stuff. [01:04:46] Speaker D: Exactly. It's not depressing. [01:04:48] Speaker B: It's the hair metal of the 90s. It's all fun, generally. Fun, light hearted. I guess that's why it's 15 million records. I don't know what we're saying. Obviously, 15 million records. A lot of records. [01:05:04] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:05:04] Speaker D: But even then you think about the hair metal of the 90s, we still had complex music riffs and guitar solos and drum solos and all that other stuff. [01:05:12] Speaker C: Right. [01:05:12] Speaker D: We don't have this here. No, they're just keeping it straightforward and simple. That's it. And I think sometimes when you come from something that's complex and something simple, it seems foreign and it's like, this is really good. It's so simple. But sometimes simple is easy and it's great. [01:05:34] Speaker B: Oh, I agree. Well, so the next song is one of the biggest songs on this record. It went to number what number did it go to? I'm looking to see, trying to see number four in the US. Alternative songs. I guess they're still called alternative here number four, us. Rock and metal, number one. Alternative airplane number two. I mean, it's saying the Billboard top 100 only 58, it sounds like. I remember this being way bigger of a song. [01:06:15] Speaker C: So they were a. [01:06:18] Speaker B: Power trio? No. [01:06:23] Speaker D: And if it's a song I think you're coming up with, I will be really surprised to hear those numbers. [01:06:27] Speaker B: Mark well, you're going to see right. [01:06:30] Speaker C: Now, so I know the title of this song. I can't remember the song, though. [01:06:36] Speaker B: Really? [01:06:37] Speaker C: I have to hear it. But again, don't forget stuff like this came on. I turned it off. [01:06:42] Speaker B: I got you. All right, so what's my age again? [01:06:58] Speaker A: I took her out there was a Friday night I walk alone to get the feeling right we started making out and she took off our pants but then I turned on the TV and that's about the time she walked away from me nobody likes you when you're 23 and I saw more of you my TV show. What the hell is Add? My friends say I should ask my age, what's my age again? What's my age again? [01:07:29] Speaker B: Do you know it now? [01:07:30] Speaker C: Yeah. Well, I know that one part and that's away from me. I know that part. I didn't know before or after. [01:07:40] Speaker B: Oh, really? Frank, is this the song you thought it was? [01:07:45] Speaker D: Yeah. I'm really surprised it did not rank higher than that. [01:07:49] Speaker B: Yeah, me too. I wasn't very surprised. I like the little beginning riff. And again, the drums are great. It's catchy, super catchy. It's a little weird for me. I'm trying to figure out what age he's talking. He's saying, when you're 23. So I took her out. It was a Friday night I wore cologne to get the feeling right we started making out and she took off my pants but then I turned on the TV and then it goes for the chorus. And that's about the time she walked away from me. Nobody likes you when you're 23 and are still more amused by TV shows what the hell is Add? My friends say I should act my age. What's my age again? What's my age again? So he's saying that he's acting a lot younger right. Than his 23 and how old am I, really? [01:08:44] Speaker D: Yeah. He's scared of getting laid. That's what it sounds like to me. [01:08:47] Speaker B: Well, yeah, no, yeah, but I'm just saying but it's more about like he's acting a lot like he's a kid. When he's 23. [01:09:01] Speaker C: He should be more interested in one thing, but he's not. [01:09:04] Speaker B: He says he's still amused by TV shows. He doesn't know what Add is. Add. I have add lyrics a little lyrics. A little more serious, I guess. Not serious, but not as flaky as some of the earlier stuff. All right, here we go. [01:09:32] Speaker A: Later on, on the drive home I called her mom from a pay phone I said I was the cops and your husband's in jail the stainless stead on sodomy and that's about the time that bitch enough. I need nobody loves you when you're 23 what the hell is called I need my birthday I should average what's my age again? What's my age again? Me. And that's about the time she walked away from me nobody likes you when. [01:10:26] Speaker B: You play I'm going to pause it and go back and I just want to go back a little bit so we could talk lyrics. So then later on, on the drive home, I called her mom from a pay phone. I said I was the cops. And your husband's in jail. This state looks down on Sodomy, and that's about the time that bitch hung up on me. Nobody likes you when you're 23 and are still more amused by prank phone calls. What the hell is call ID? My friends say I should act my age. What's my age again? What's my age again? So he's still confused about what he's doing wrong. And the little interlude had whatever you could call, I guess that's the most you're going to call is a solo. [01:11:11] Speaker C: Yeah. There's no solos, right? So far? I'm surprised. [01:11:14] Speaker B: No, I don't think there's anything in any of this. What is that noise? Frank. [01:11:18] Speaker D: Oh, shit. I thought it was on mute. Sorry. Why are you dirty motherfucking, cock sucking piece of sorry. I'm sorry. I was just listening to it as I rip up. I don't know what the fuck I'm ripping up over here. Junk male, I guess. What's my age again? [01:11:38] Speaker B: What's your age again? [01:11:41] Speaker C: You know what? [01:11:41] Speaker D: I kind of like it. I kind of like this. You guys are too much. [01:11:50] Speaker B: You like. [01:11:53] Speaker D: Do it's catchy. It's a catchy. Little do, you know? And someone who kind of has a Peter Pan syndrome, in my opinion. [01:12:04] Speaker B: Look at that. Frank's making it all he's making it all like they're actually thinking about. [01:12:14] Speaker C: I mean, some of the lyrics are a little goofy, but I think ultimately they're dealing with serious topics, right? Like heartbreak and I mean, you can you can relate to some of the stuff that they're I wasn't this much better when I was 23 or 25 or 26 or 27. [01:12:33] Speaker D: Yeah, I'm not always that much better. [01:12:36] Speaker C: So believe me, I can relate to some of this stuff. [01:12:39] Speaker D: Yeah, I really can. I mean, some really deep emo things. [01:12:47] Speaker B: Emo, bro. [01:12:49] Speaker D: You know what I mean? [01:12:50] Speaker B: Emo. All right, here we go. [01:12:57] Speaker A: And that's about the time she walked away from me nobody likes you when you're 23 and you feel like you're impression year what the hell is wrong with me? My friends say I. Should have rage with me but what you say. [01:13:53] Speaker D: Mark? [01:13:55] Speaker B: How many times are they going to do that? [01:13:58] Speaker C: I like the ending a little bit better. [01:14:00] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:14:01] Speaker B: It's not like I said, I do like this song, so I'm not going to bag on too much. I'm going to finish the last chorus because there's a bunch of different things and that's about the time she walked away from me nobody likes you when you're 23 and you still act like you're in freshman year what the hell is wrong with me? My friends say I should act my age what's my age again? What's my age again? That's about the time that she broke up with me no one should take themselves so seriously with many years ahead to fall in line why would you wish that on me? I never want to act my age what's my age again? What's my age again? What's my age again? So, yeah, it is taking on a little bit more of a serious thing, even though it's in a very happy, poppy kind of song. [01:14:47] Speaker C: Yeah. I mean, it gets a little goofy with the whole. [01:14:57] Speaker B: You'Re talking about what. [01:14:58] Speaker C: When you go first, Mark. [01:15:00] Speaker B: Okay. I'm going to say seven on the lyrics. I don't know, it's hard for me because I'm just thinking about other records I've given less lyrics to, so I can't really go higher than seven, I don't think, unless something really says, oh, this is really that great. I like the song a lot. I'm going to give the musicianship an eight more for just the structure and stuff. I don't think the playing is much better as far as guitar and bass goes. Drumming is really good, obviously, and I like the production. I'm going to give that an eight. I think they knew this was going to be the single. I think it's produced just a tad bit better than the other stuff. Again, I'm not too sure why every song has to end on a chord that fades out, but whatever, it was fine at the beginning. Now it's starting to bother me, so I didn't even realize that happened that many times. What is it like? Out of the five songs we listened to, how many? Like four, right. [01:16:05] Speaker C: At least, if not all of them. I don't remember how they all ended, but yeah. [01:16:10] Speaker B: All right, you go next again, I really like the song. It was one of my favorites from this. [01:16:17] Speaker C: Yeah. I mean, I'll say six on the lyrics. I mean, obviously, I gave seven to the other ones. I can't give I like the first part up until it gets to the second verse and chorus and it gets a little silly, I think. I think he hit on a good topic in the beginning and then at the end he got, like, vindictive and childish. So for the first part, I'll just say that I'll say seven on the music. I mean, this definitely by far is my favorite one so far, overall. It's one that I can probably go back to production. I'll say a seven. Again, my issue is everything is clear. I just wish I had a little bit more of, like, low end. It is kind of trebly and tinny, but it is clear. It's not too bad, you know what I mean? It's not to the point where it bothers me, but I'm a low end guy, so frank. [01:17:32] Speaker D: You know something? I never really paid attention to it until tonight. Obviously, we're listening to the lyrics. We have to give our feedback and things like that. So what I really like about this song, and I didn't realize it until this moment, it really addresses the whole, like I said before, the Peter Pan syndrome. Some guy who just refuses to grow up. And honestly, this is one of those songs that you can make a pop up circus out of it, right? You can say, okay, when was this release mark? 99. [01:18:06] Speaker B: Yeah, 99. [01:18:07] Speaker D: Okay, move over. Ten years later, now he's 33. Ten years after that, he's 43. Ten years after that, he's 53. Create a timeline with this person. Are they growing up where they're at? And things like that. So I'm going to give this song a triple eight across the board. The lyrics, the music and the engineering, everything like that, I just loved it. I really do like it a lot. Again, I was surprised it wasn't as big as a hit, but as we listen to the lyrics and analyze it a little bit more, I'm even more surprised it was a bigger hit than what it was, and the band could have expanded on it too. Just continue the story years later. So where this person is at, this is very true. [01:18:49] Speaker B: Maybe you should tell them to do that. [01:18:52] Speaker D: I just did in this podcast. [01:18:54] Speaker B: Okay, so the next one, Tamina, is already probably going to give this thing a when I say the name of the song, he's going to be like, really? So this is Dysentery. Gary. [01:19:11] Speaker A: Raise. All this is me, my name want to make a deal because I love your little motion you and your big bell. What an excuse with another night jailer Johnny I would like to find a Friday night hanging out with mom drawing on a color tight life just I lost our one I'm giving up she found someone. [01:20:22] Speaker B: Like the riff I know his voice is probably driving you crazy on the song, I'm sure. Yeah, it's a little harder for me too. Got a lot of heartache. He's a fucking weasel. His issues make my mind ache. Want to make a deal? Because I love your little motions you do with your pigtails. What a nice creation worth another night in jail. He's a player. Diarrhea Giver tried to grow his hair out. Friends were listening to Slayer. I would like to find him friday night hanging out with mom and trying on his father's tights. Life just sucks. I lost the one I'm giving up. She found someone. There's plenty more girls. There's plenty more. Girls are such a drag. Now are they trying to say that she went with this guy? [01:21:13] Speaker C: I assume I think that's the understanding, like, this guy is kind of as bad as he is. She still went with him. [01:21:25] Speaker B: I like the riff a little bit. I like when they do little when they actually put riffs and it's just not just chords just banging on top of you know what I mean? So I like when it's broken up a little bit with that. But, yeah, his voice is a little hard on this one. What do you think, Frank? How you like it so far? [01:21:43] Speaker D: I like know just trying to figure out where he's gone with know a little salty, but I like it a little salty over a breakup. [01:21:55] Speaker B: It is a little salty. [01:21:56] Speaker D: He's a little salty over a breakup. So let's just see where it goes. [01:22:05] Speaker A: You'll come up to me, maybe I'll tell you lie. Got a lot of heartache. Get a fucking weed off. This isn't really my mate. Want to make a deal? Just never you want all along Tuesday, bump the guy that you ran away. He's a player diary. Giver joy. I just want a Friday night hanging out with mom and join on a park. I just I lost someone. I'm giving up. She found someone. Plenty more girls are. [01:22:57] Speaker B: I like that little that drum thing he was doing. Was it with the block? [01:23:01] Speaker C: Yeah, the wood block. [01:23:03] Speaker B: Yeah. It was pretty cool. I didn't expect I didn't remember that was in there, but I didn't expect it. I got to say, for me did he? For me, Travis Barker is like the just like I said, Ted Nugent was the MVP. Travis Barker is the MVP of this record. [01:23:18] Speaker C: Yeah, I agree. [01:23:20] Speaker D: Yeah, he is. Yeah. I knew he was good, but this is the first time listening to the entire album from start to finish, didn't realize he was this good. Yeah, he elevates everyone around him. [01:23:39] Speaker C: It's funny because I knew the name. I don't know what band he drummed for, though. [01:23:43] Speaker B: Oh, really? That's so funny. [01:23:44] Speaker C: Kidding. That's a little I really knew when. [01:23:49] Speaker B: I put this on the list, right? I almost didn't put it on the list. I was like, I know Savino hates these guys, because I remember when we were doing the COVID band, I wanted to do a Blink 182 song, and you just didn't want to do that. I don't want to do those fucking songs. [01:24:03] Speaker C: No, we didn't wind up doing it. [01:24:05] Speaker B: We, did we? [01:24:07] Speaker C: Oh, yeah. [01:24:07] Speaker B: I don't think so. Did we? I don't remember that. [01:24:10] Speaker C: Yeah, I think it was in every show because it was a quick little whatever, and it was popular enough. [01:24:17] Speaker B: Yeah. I was surprised you let that happen. [01:24:21] Speaker C: I don't want to veto. [01:24:24] Speaker B: All right, well so all you little ladies be sure you choose the right guys you'll come back to me maybe I'll shower you with lies got a lot of heartache he's a fucking weasel. Decisions make my mind ache want to make a deal and then obviously Mark Hoppis does the bridge because it's a different voice, right? Ease away the problems and the pain the girl will choose the guy that makes you want to kick and scream all along you wish that she would stay fuck the guy that took her and ran away then back to the chorus. He's a player. Diarrhea Giver tried to grow his hair out. Friends were listening to Slayer. I would like to find him Friday night, hanging out with mom and trying on his father's. [01:25:09] Speaker D: Salty. He's a little bit salty. [01:25:11] Speaker B: Yeah, salty. [01:25:12] Speaker D: Where's he going with this whole listen to Slayer thing? I want to understand that layer. [01:25:15] Speaker B: I think he thinks he's a poser. He's growing his hair out. Right? He's a poser. He's growing his hair out, and he's trying to listen to Slayer, like, to make himself be more that guy. Salty. [01:25:32] Speaker D: Salty. [01:25:34] Speaker B: So let's play the end. And then I'll read the chorus, and the end out. I like the bass part right there. That's pretty cool. I like his little high bass things. I don't really pay attention to that much on this record, his bass playing, but I like it right there. Hopefully there's more of that I like. [01:25:57] Speaker A: It's a war I hate you all alone with my dog the girls decide just let me. [01:26:26] Speaker B: I like that ending better. Woohoo. [01:26:28] Speaker C: There you go. [01:26:29] Speaker B: It's about time. All right. So cut and dry life just sucks I lost the one I'm giving up she found someone there's plenty more girls are such a drag fuck this place I lost the war I hate you all your mom's a whore. Where's my dog? Because girls are such a drag it's really salty. He's not very happy. Does it say if dysentery Gary is about a specific person? [01:27:00] Speaker D: I don't know, but it's very, very right there. Very angry, very upfront with their feelings. And salty. [01:27:14] Speaker B: It's very salty. I do say emotional damage. See emo emotional damage. Who wants to go first? Frank, why don't you go first? He's talking to himself again. Is he talking to himself again? [01:27:50] Speaker C: Well, no, I think he's muted. [01:27:53] Speaker B: Of course he's muted. [01:27:57] Speaker C: Why don't you go back until he comes back? [01:28:00] Speaker B: Okay. Yeah. I mean, the lyrics are salty, but the lyrics aren't great. I'm going to give it a five. I like some of the music stuff, so I'm going to say maybe six. And I don't know, do I like the music stuff? But I'm going to say six. And I'm going to do seven on the production again. It's fairly the same for me. I can understand about no low end. There's not a lot of low end on that. [01:28:28] Speaker C: No. [01:28:29] Speaker B: Yeah, why don't you go? [01:28:34] Speaker A: Um. [01:28:41] Speaker C: Yeah, I guess I'll say five of the lyrics. I mean, I can understand the sentiment of it. [01:28:49] Speaker B: Well, I think all of them really do have they're trying to actually talk about speak about stuff. [01:28:54] Speaker C: Yeah, no, I mean, they are, right? And I can understand how I think at any age, sometimes you just go through stuff where they're not mature problems, you know what I mean? They're kind of like teenage problems, the way you deal with things. And it kind of brings back memories of things like, oh, man, I feel like this is the way I was acting when I was a kid or when I was younger or whatever. So these things do relate sometimes in early ages and later ages. Yeah. Music. See, here's the deal. A lot of this stuff maybe has to do with the voice more than the music, but I'm going to say five. I kind of tuned out after a while. Production is a seven. I mean, again, everything is clear, but I would like a little bit especially even a song like this, like a little bit more raunch. Right. A little dirty, too. I mean, it's a dirty song. It's got a kind of a dirty vibe to it. But again, I know the production. I can't imagine there's going to be any production on this record that's not going to sound exactly the same. [01:30:17] Speaker B: No. If anything, it's very consistent. [01:30:20] Speaker C: Yeah. And again, listen, it's clear it's not turned to eleven where everything overrides everything, and you have to turn it to two or else if you put it on three, it's going to blow out your speakers. From that standpoint, do we get Frank back? [01:30:39] Speaker B: Frank, you there? [01:30:40] Speaker D: Yeah, I'm here. I'm here. [01:30:41] Speaker B: All right. [01:30:42] Speaker D: I don't know what happened. The whole app just kind of froze on me for a moment there. [01:30:48] Speaker B: Well, why don't you give your ratings? [01:30:51] Speaker D: I like know, kind of like Sav was saying, some of his relatable, very teenage young adulthood drama. You look at it as like, okay, this is a major issue. Then later on in life is not that big of a deal. Kind of like when you flunk out of your taking your New York state regions exam and you realize it doesn't matter in the rest of the country. Kind of know, I like it. I like the songs, I like the lyric. I like the whole sentiment. So for me, I'm going to give those across the board another seven. The music, I'm going to give it an eight and the recording an eight. Again, the drumming is just really is awesome, the drumming in this whole thing so far. [01:31:34] Speaker B: Yeah, he's really good. I think he saves it for me. I think he saves it for me. Even though I've listened to this album a lot, I listened to it a lot in the late 90s. [01:31:45] Speaker D: Yeah. [01:31:46] Speaker B: I didn't really key in on how much he holds this thing together. And he makes it a lot very he makes it very interesting where it could be very boring if it was a different drummer. I think playing yeah. [01:31:58] Speaker D: He makes everyone around him sound better, I think. [01:32:01] Speaker B: I agree. [01:32:02] Speaker D: And that's not easy to do for some artists. [01:32:04] Speaker B: No. [01:32:05] Speaker D: Especially from a drumming position. It's even more challenging to make everyone around you sound better from your drumming. [01:32:15] Speaker B: All right, so the next song is Adam's song. Hey, it's Metallica. [01:32:36] Speaker C: I know. I was just going to say is that one? [01:32:43] Speaker B: Yeah. It sounds good, though. Again, drumming is really good. Again, I like when they do parts like this on their songs. I like that a little bit. So this is the longest song on the record at 410. So here we go. [01:33:03] Speaker A: I never thought I'd die alone? I laugh the loudest hoot of known? I drink the cord back to the wall? No wonder it was never plugged in at all. I took my time, I hurried up? The choice was mine I didn't think enough I'm too depressed to go on. You'll be sorry me when I'm gone. I never conquered really came 16 just have such better days things when I felt alive we couldn't wait to get outside the world I couldn't wait till I got home to pack the time in my. [01:34:17] Speaker B: I think you're going to like the lyrics here. I think the lyrics going to be better for you. [01:34:25] Speaker C: Yeah. Listen, again, I do understand the sentiments and what they're trying to do in the songs and the experiences that they're trying to portray. So I do appreciate that. Just some of the stuff just gets a little goofy. [01:34:45] Speaker B: It gets a little goofy and cheesy. This is true. [01:34:47] Speaker C: That's my only thing. [01:34:51] Speaker B: Well, I'm now remembering this song, too, and this is one of my favorite songs on this record. I think the lyrics kind of bear that out. I never thought I'd die alone I laughed the loudest who would have known? I traced the cord back to the wall no wonder it was never plugged in at all. I took my time, I hurried up the choice was mine I didn't think enough I'm too depressed to go on. You'll be. Sorry when I'm gone I've never conquered, rarely came 16 just held such better days. Days when I still felt alive. We couldn't wait to get outside the world was wide too late to try the tour was over we'd survived I couldn't wait till I got home to pass the time in my room alone. So it's kind of like he's looking back, right, and saying he's depressed now. And he didn't think he was going to die by himself. Is this a drug thing? Like, I'm not too sure what it's about. It's inspired by the loneliness he experienced on tour. While his bandmates had significant others to return home to, he was single. He was also influenced by teen suicide by a teen suicide letter he read in the magazine. [01:36:00] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:36:05] Speaker B: For them, this is very serious. [01:36:09] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:36:12] Speaker B: And I think the lyrics aren't bad at all. [01:36:14] Speaker C: No. [01:36:15] Speaker B: Saying that he was better when he was 16 he felt more alive when he was 16 he couldn't wait to go outside now he's just kind of like, stuck in this tour thing. He has no room to go home, too. All right. [01:36:41] Speaker A: I never thought I'd die alone another six months I'll be unknown give all my things to all my friends you'll never step foot in my room again you'll close it off. Board it up. Remember the time that I spilled the cup of apple juice in the hall? Please tell mom this is not her fault. I never conquered when it came 16 just helped us better days days when I still felt alive we couldn't wait to get up the drummer was over. We survive I couldn't wait till I got home without the time in my room alone sam, you I never conquered when we came to days when I could still feel alive when I can't wait to get outside the world I can't wait till I get my mind. [01:39:13] Speaker B: To think they're doing that on purpose. Now to me. [01:39:18] Speaker C: But they have those lead into the next song, too, right? Like, you can hear it went to the next song, so I get sometimes that faded chord kind of yeah. [01:39:29] Speaker B: Maybe this is a production thing and I'm not realizing it till now. All right. So I never thought I'd die alone another six months I'll be unknown give all my things to all my friends you'll never step foot in my room again you'll close it off, board it up remember the time that I spilled the cup of apple juice in the hall? Please tell mom this is not her fault. I've never conquered rarely came 16 held such better days days when I still felt alive we couldn't wait to get outside the world was wide too late to try the tour was over we'd survived I couldn't wait till I got home I passed the time in my room alone and basically, they doubled the little instrumental part. And then they doubled and they do the chorus out. The only thing I would say I'm going to go first. The only thing I would say is I wish he would have changed the chorus up a little bit and not just repeat the chorus. If you just changed a couple of lyrics in each chorus, I would have liked it better. But I'm going to give the lyrics an eight, I think, so far, that's the best lyrics there. Obviously, it's the most serious lyrics. I like the music. I'm going to give that an eight and I'm going to give production an eight. I like the song so far. I think this is my favorite song on the record. I like that it's not super goofy. So what do you think, Seth? [01:40:47] Speaker C: Yeah, I mean, this is actually a song I could picture listening to again. [01:40:51] Speaker D: Wow. [01:40:52] Speaker B: Are you sure you're okay? Take your temperature. [01:40:55] Speaker C: No, but clearly it's the most different I think it's not the most grown up. Yeah. I'm going to give the music an eight. I'm going to start with the music because I'm not sure about the lyrics yet. I'm going to say seven on production. [01:41:18] Speaker B: I mean, the lyrics have to be better than the other one, don't don't they? [01:41:21] Speaker C: Yeah, well, I mean, I gave a seven to the UFO song because I. [01:41:25] Speaker B: Like that stuff, and I think these lyrics are better than the UFO song. [01:41:31] Speaker C: Well, I mean, for what it's worth, it wasn't only the topic. I actually liked the lyrics to the song in general. I think they were very witty for that song. So it wasn't just the subject. I think he actually did a really good job. He was very witty. So I'm going to say seven again, based on the fact that there's not much different. And my one complaint musically is just I feel that the chorus and verses are very similar. But I do like at least that the second part of the chorus, everything kind of comes in, so it elevates the chorus. [01:42:09] Speaker B: Yeah. Everything just comes on. It makes it much bigger. [01:42:12] Speaker C: Yeah. Like I said, just a little bit difficult. I mean, as of right now, this is definitely by far my favorite song. Like I said, I could definitely picture at least this one. I may not go back to the alien song, but I'd probably come back to I do like this one. So this is definitely my favorite so far. [01:42:30] Speaker B: Wow. They're breaking them down, Frank. They're breaking them down. [01:42:37] Speaker D: Yeah. You know what? I have to say, this is so far one of my favorite ones I heard so far. I really like the lyrics. I think they're I don't know, they're going into a deeper meaning concept kind of thing. Right. So I'm going to give lyrics an eight here. The music I really like there. It follows the same thing as the album, so I'm going to get a seven. And the production the production really has been great so far throughout the entire listening, so I'm going to give that an eight. [01:43:15] Speaker B: And again, if we didn't, say a travis Barker's playing is great on this song, too. [01:43:20] Speaker D: Yeah. I mean, again, you know, he's just he's just carrying the entire album so far. I think. [01:43:26] Speaker C: I think his first album with them is it? [01:43:29] Speaker D: Oh, is it? [01:43:30] Speaker C: Yeah. Okay. [01:43:31] Speaker B: I didn't realize that. See, I don't know enough about just. [01:43:34] Speaker C: I just read a little side note. First release with drummer Travis Barker, who replaced the original member, Scott Rayner. [01:43:42] Speaker B: Well, let me just next song is all the Small Things. Obviously a song we did, and this one was won on. Well, this was Billboard Hot 106. Alternative airplay, one mainstream top 48. So this is the top ten. This is a top ten song. I'm sure that helped in the whole thing of making this of making this 15 million selling record. All right, here we go. [01:44:26] Speaker A: All the small things true care truth brings I'll take one lift your ride best trip always I know you'll be at my show watching, waiting commiserating stay I will not go turn the lights off carry me on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on. [01:45:12] Speaker B: The mere fact that you could write a chorus that's Nana, nana, nana and get away with that. [01:45:19] Speaker C: Well, they said it was what do you call it? To the Ramons. [01:45:25] Speaker B: I can definitely hear that. [01:45:26] Speaker C: Yeah. It was a tribute to that nana nah part. I don't know why I thought the other guy sang this song. [01:45:33] Speaker B: No. It's time to learn. [01:45:34] Speaker C: It's so weird. Like, even hearing it now, I'm like, this doesn't sound right. Isn't the other guy singing? [01:45:39] Speaker B: No. [01:45:40] Speaker C: That's so weird. I don't know why I thought the other guy sang this song. [01:45:45] Speaker B: Well, all the small things true care truth brings I'll take one lift your ride best trip always I know you'll be at my show watching, waiting, commiserating they got commiserating in there. How often do you hear commiserating in a song? I give them credit. Say it ain't so I will not go turn the lights off kyrie home and then the nana. Nas. [01:46:08] Speaker C: Oh, you're not going to sing all. [01:46:09] Speaker B: The no, I'm not going to sing all the nanas. I think everyone knows what the nanas are. Yeah, but it's super catchy. This obviously had single written all over it. [01:46:21] Speaker C: Oh, yeah. [01:46:26] Speaker A: Sat. I know she left me roses by the stairs surprises let me know she cares say it ain't so I will not go turn the lights off carry me high on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on jenny. Carry me home keep your head still I'll be your nightmare I will not carry me away close. Um. [01:48:12] Speaker B: Okay. 100%. They're doing that on purpose now because the same little synth thing comes at the end of everyone. [01:48:20] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:48:23] Speaker B: So we thinking we like that. It's very catchy. [01:48:28] Speaker C: I like it. [01:48:29] Speaker B: I know you can't deal with his voice. Let me do verses. Late night come home work sucks I know she left me roses by the stairs surprises let me know she cares just say it ain't so I will not go turn the lights off carry me home I like what he plays in the drums in the pre chorus a lot. It's very interesting. And then the middle part has a little more of the military snare thing going on that he likes to use, it seems. [01:48:59] Speaker C: Yeah, he definitely is that a lot? [01:49:04] Speaker B: And then so basically say it ain't so. I will not go turn the lights off carry me home keep your head still I'll be your thrill then that will go on my little windmill and then I like how they use that same bridge part in the chorus. So that was interesting. They changed it up a little bit. I give them credit for that. I guess we'll let Frank go first. What do you you know, I like it a lot. [01:49:29] Speaker D: I can understand why it charted where it did in the music during that time. So the lyrics gonna give that a know it's right there. I like it a lot. And the music ship. I like this a lot. This is going to be an eight. And the production, I'm going to give that an eight as well. Again, Travis Baker just pops off the soundtrack here and in turn makes everybody else just pop as well. So I'm going to stick to those ratings there. [01:50:04] Speaker C: I'm going to say a five on the lyrics, kind of goofy. I'll say six on the music and a seven on the production. I mean, it's definitely tolerable. It's a fun song. So it's not like, whatever, but mark? [01:50:26] Speaker B: Yeah, no, I can get it. I mean, I don't think the lyrics are great. I like the melody more than like the lyrics on that fact. I'm just going to give it a six. I don't really think that the lyrics are great. The music's fine. It's catchy. I'm going to give it a seven. I don't think I like it better than Adam's song, but obviously it was a big hit, so what do I know? Production give a seven, too. So now the next song is the party song. Here we go. [01:51:03] Speaker A: Do you want to come to a party, my friend? Pick me up in a truck at 1136 out of five house the people are cool there were lucky and I follow but I never dreamed there would be someone there who would catch my attention I wasn't out searching for love or affection. So I paid my free and the girls got a free shine the beer for tequila, and we headed into the party. And then in the backyard, the Terry looked up and some money in the background was doing a case and the places, the lame all these girls are the same all these guys have no game I wish I would have sitting back at home watching TV and people I picked up a penny. Wish they tried to inbox the cake up to give and head after the party. And then I saw her standing there with green eyes and long bond hair. She wasn't wearing underwear. At least I prayed that she might. Be the one maybe we'd have some fun maybe we'd watch the sunrise but that night I learned some girls try too hard some girls try too hard some girls try. Too hard. I couldn't believe what the city was saying. [01:52:16] Speaker B: Let's back this up. So this song, to me, feels like if you had back in the day, if you want to relate it to, like, 80s rock, this is like the Cheesy Ta song you'd have tits and ass song you'd have in the 80s by hair metal, but in pop punk form, that's how I look at it. So that first part where he's whispering, he says, Here you go, motherfuckers. Do you want to come to a part? Yeah. Do you want to come to a party? My friends pick me up in a truck at 1130 this thing's at a frat house but people are cool there. Reluctant I followed I give him credit for the reluctant I followed song Lyric reluctant I Followed but I never dreamed there would be somebody there who would catch my attention I wasn't out searching for love or affection so I played my three in the girls. I got in free, shined on the beer for tequila, and we headed into the party. And then in the backyard, some terrible sky band. Someone in the background was doing a keg. Stand? The place is so lame? All these girls look the same all these guys have no game I wish I would have stayed in my bed back at home watching TV alone where I'd put on some porn or have sex on the phone. Far from the people I hate down from anywhere state trying to intoxicate girls and give them head after party. And then I saw her standing there with green eyes and long blonde hair. She wasn't wearing underwear. At least I prayed that she might be the one. Maybe we'd have some fun. Maybe we'd watch the sunrise. But that night, I learned some girls try too hard. I got to say, the parts that I like here is when, like, this part says she wasn't wearing underwear. At least I prayed that. But then he goes right into she might be the one. So is he saying that she wasn't wearing underwear? I prayed that or I prayed that she might be the one. I like that. [01:54:10] Speaker C: I don't know if he means the one for life or the one for the night. You know what I mean? [01:54:16] Speaker B: No, but I'm just saying but it's saying you can take it either way. But the way it's sung, just the way he's putting those lyrics together, I give him credit for the inventiveness of doing that. Like, there's another part, too, up before this. Where is that? Oh, in my head, in my bed back at home watching TV alone. What is that? The part that I was thinking, I don't know. There's another part up here that was similar. [01:54:43] Speaker A: Um. [01:54:48] Speaker B: I just like that I like that little breakup thing he's doing there, not making it. You're not sure what he's talking about. Is he saying, I wish she didn't have any panties? On or is she the one? It's just the way it's melodied out. I kind of like at least it kind of makes it a little more interesting because in general, it's a stream of consciousness just coming at you. And then the chorus is Dana. NA NA NA NA DA NA NA some girls try too hard some girls try too hard to impress with the way that they dress with those things on their chest and the things they suggest to me so this is definitely teenage or early college, maybe. Well, it's still teenage. Right? So it's teenage stuff. But the lyrics, aside from that interesting little thing in the middle, the lyrics are just a stream of consciousness across. [01:55:51] Speaker C: Yeah. I mean, there is a general sentiment that runs throughout most of the record. I think it's kind of like anthems for the losers kind of thing. Pretty much, which is fine. I mean, again, I know these guys are in their late twenty s at this point. Mid to late 20s. [01:56:11] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:56:12] Speaker B: But they're writing about stuff that they went through. [01:56:14] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:56:14] Speaker B: They're writing about experiences, probably. [01:56:16] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:56:20] Speaker A: I couldn't believe what the city was saying. The nature was shopping, the game she was playing. She gave me this guy who's like, my God, now it matters, but never would bother until I can turn out another cool. Out of party. So when you see her standing there with green eyes and love on hair she won't be wearing underwear and you'll discover this girl's not the one and she'll never be fun you should just turn and run because you'll find out that some girls try too hard? Some girls try to hold? Some girls try too hard to dress with the things on their chest and the things they suggest to me? Some girls are too hard and. [01:57:31] Speaker B: Changes his stuff all around. So basically saying he knows what this is and if you would have known better back then. Right? He would have changed what he did. [01:57:44] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:57:46] Speaker B: So I couldn't believe what this lady was saying. The name she was dropping, the game she was playing. So at the beginning, he's more positive, right about what it is. And now in the second part is not as positive anymore. The name she was dropping, the game she was playing. She dated the guy who now rides for blackflies. How she's down with the wise, well constructed disguise. That's a good line. How she's down with the wise, well constructed disguise now, I'd rather go dateless than stay here and hate this her volume of makeup her fake tits were tasteless so I said I'd call her but never would bother until I got turned down by another girl at a party. That's pretty funny. So when you see her standing there with the green eyes and long blonde hair she won't be wearing underwear and you'll discover this girl's not the one and she'll never be fun and she just turn and run because you'll find out that some girls try too hard. [01:58:40] Speaker D: Salty to me. [01:58:42] Speaker B: Yeah, it's a little more salty. It's like every other song, we got salty going on. But as much as I don't really like the song, I like the way he changes it around and tries to do that thing in the chorus where you're not sure what he's trying to say is it the first part of the line? Is it the second part, so I give him credit for that. [01:59:03] Speaker D: I agree. [01:59:06] Speaker C: It's amusing. [01:59:08] Speaker B: It is amusing. We've all been in that situation. We went to a party. Even going as far back as old as we are, you can kind of. [01:59:18] Speaker C: Remember that stuff happening, the parties at the speakeasies. [01:59:23] Speaker B: We're not that fuck, but you know what I mean? I mean, it doesn't change at all from whenever he was teenager and when we were a teenager. I mean, it's very similar time frames anyway. But yeah, it's just too funny. The lyrics are not great, but for the inventiveness and what it is, I want to give it more just because I like the inventiveness of the way he's playing around with the meter and time and stuff. So I'm going to give it a seven just for that. I don't think the lyrics are great, but I think the construction and what he's trying to do is interesting. Music is whatever it is. I'm going to give that a six. I can't get lower than six because the drumming is okay. I think this is the one song where I'm not a super fan of the drums, so I'm going to give it a six. If the drums were a little bit better, I would probably hit seven, but I'm going to say six. And production, I don't know. Seven, I can't tell you. But I was more interested in the construction of the lyrics and more than anything else. Frank? Yeah. [02:00:39] Speaker D: I have to say, the lyrics sound a little bit darker than we heard from Poor and really like it was storytelling at its best. So for me, personally, I'm going to give that a seven. The music, there were some spots that were really good, other spots that were kind of thinned out. I'm going to give that a seven as well, and I'm going to go ahead and give the engineering an eight. I think the engineering has been super stellar the entire time, especially enhancing the drum set in each song. They've done a really good job of all of that, so kudos to them. Mark. [02:01:21] Speaker B: Sav. Yeah. [02:01:24] Speaker C: I'm going to say six on the are. The way he writes the stuff is inventive and the way he says it, clearly he's painting a picture that a lot of people on both sides can on any side can relate to music. I'll say I'm going to say a six only because I'm not really crazy about the chorus, the verses, by the time he gets to the pre chorus. Actually, the chorus is kind of catchy, so I'll save it from a five. But like you said, the drumming is fine. It's not as, let's say, unique as some of the other stuff that he's doing, but it's fine because even all the small things didn't really have but you're not always going to do whatever accents and things like that. Sometimes the song just doesn't call for it. And yeah. Production. I'll say seven again. [02:02:29] Speaker B: Okay. Yeah. It's definitely not the worst we've heard out of all these. I'm just trying to look at Savino's ratings through this whole thing. Sixes, sixes, 7676. That's about where I thought. [02:02:51] Speaker C: Yeah. I mean, again, I don't want to be a dick about this. I'm being respectful, even though, overall it's not my thing. [02:03:04] Speaker B: Listen, you can't like everything, so just the way it goes. All right, the next song. We only got three songs left. This is mutt. That's a weird drum sound. Isn't it different than the rest of the thing? [02:03:25] Speaker C: Yeah, it's a little bit tinnier. [02:03:27] Speaker B: Yeah. And the snare is super tinny, right? [02:03:29] Speaker C: Yeah. It's very weird. Very tight. [02:03:33] Speaker B: This is the first time I've heard it sound any different, though. [02:03:37] Speaker C: Yeah, they may switch. We'll see what happens. [02:03:42] Speaker B: Yeah. [02:04:22] Speaker A: Oh, yeah they don't even care about Jesus and I know he's only looking to score and it is way too healthy often they typically. [02:05:05] Speaker B: Bass tones are really aggressive, especially on the verses. It's like a totally different it's recording a totally different thing place with totally different instruments and totally different recording everything compared to the last nine songs we heard first. [02:05:20] Speaker C: Yeah. I mean, once all the music comes in, the snare blends in a little bit better. But when it's kind of like isolated, it does sound a little bit definitely sounds a little bit different. [02:05:29] Speaker B: Yeah. So he pauses shaving and he tells himself that he is the bomb. She has her curler set, her credit cards are paying the funds. He's not that old, I've been told. A strong sexual goal. They go out every day. She goes every way? Oh, yeah. They don't even care at all. She's open, waiting for more. And I know he's only looking to score and is way too unhealthy often. They've typically been starved for attention before. What do you think about that? [02:06:02] Speaker C: It's okay. I feel like the song is a little bit disjointed. [02:06:09] Speaker B: Yeah, I think so, too. Let's see. [02:06:27] Speaker A: He doesn't seem to notice the smell. He took his feet off his own bike because the way that it felt. He wants to bow. I know she is ready to blow. They go out every night. He fans are. Super hot oh, yeah they don't even care at all you you waiting for more and I know he's only looking to score and it is way too unhealthy often they typically start for attention before. [02:08:12] Speaker B: It'S a weird song. [02:08:16] Speaker C: I don't even know about a surfer that he lived with that had sex all the time, apparently. [02:08:23] Speaker B: Okay. [02:08:24] Speaker C: And this movie was in American Pie. [02:08:27] Speaker B: The song was American Pie. Really? [02:08:29] Speaker C: That's what it says. [02:08:31] Speaker B: Wow. Did you know that? [02:08:33] Speaker C: I've never seen it, believe it or not. [02:08:35] Speaker B: You've never seen American Pie. [02:08:37] Speaker C: So when it came out, we could never get into the theater to see it. It was always sold out back in the day when we went to theater, waited in line to get the tickets, and then I just kind of forgot about it. And I've seen bits and pieces of it, and maybe now is not the time for me to see it because I'm like, I don't find this funny. [02:09:06] Speaker B: There were some funny parts in there. [02:09:07] Speaker C: Listen, I've never seen the beginning to end, so I'm not going to judge. I may watch it one of these days and then say, okay, but yeah, back in the day when it came out, I was super popular. [02:09:21] Speaker B: Yeah. [02:09:22] Speaker C: Just couldn't get in. [02:09:24] Speaker B: So I'll let you go first. I'm curious to see what you say. I knew you were going to do that. [02:09:35] Speaker C: I'm going to say a five on the lyrics. So there's parts of the music that I like. There's parts that actually remind me of, like, Ned's Atomic Dustbin where the guitar kind of has a bass tone, but the bass is playing something else. So it's almost like two basses going at the same time. So I'm going to say a six on the music because of that stuff. Production, I'm going to say a six. It didn't feel as tight as the other ones. A little bit tinny all around, I guess. I wish it would again. I mean, the whole album, I wish I had a little bit more in, but this one felt even less of that, so frank. [02:10:26] Speaker D: I don't know. It's just trying to decipher for it all. I like the lyrics. I don't know, I'm just kind of hung up on this. I'm just trying to decipher. I'm going to give this get it a six. The music, I like it. It's there. I'm going to give that a seven. And the composition, the engineer, I'm going to give it a seven as well. Overall. Well, I don't know. This one's my least favorite. [02:10:59] Speaker B: Yeah, me too. So I'm going to give lyrics a four. [02:11:03] Speaker C: Nice. [02:11:04] Speaker B: Because I really don't like the lyrics at all. There are parts that are okay, but it just does nothing for me. Musicianship I'm going to give. I want to give a five. Wow. Is what I want to do. I want to give it a five and that's what I'm going to do. I was super okay with most of this stuff. It just does nothing for me. I don't know why. I don't know if it's the sound and production, I'm going to give a five. I don't like the production at all. I don't like the way the drums sound, even though it does blend in. The Snare does blend in with the rest of the stuff eventually. I just don't like the way I would never want it to sound that way. Maybe that's what they wanted, which is good for them. But out of all the songs on this record, it does nothing for me. Does nothing for me. [02:11:55] Speaker D: It's not my favorite. [02:11:56] Speaker B: Yeah. It's an overall kind of thing. And I'm sure that I don't know if it's going to get better or how it's going to end strong or what's going to happen, but I'm curious. Well, the next one's wendy clear. I don't know what the fuck that's about. [02:12:18] Speaker C: His boat. [02:12:18] Speaker B: It's about his boat. Okay. [02:12:20] Speaker C: Yeah. [02:12:22] Speaker B: All right. Is this queen like bicycle he had to ride about a bicycle? He had to ride about a boat. [02:12:27] Speaker C: It's going to be like Red Bargetta by Rush, I'm sure. [02:12:33] Speaker B: I'm sure it is. Here we go. [02:12:54] Speaker A: Did your job just one day I wish you didn't have to be so bad it might be the way that baby I wish it didn't have to be so bad. But I play with fire to break the ice and I play with the nuclear device it is hoping I regret for doing what I can't get. I wish it didn't have to be so bad. [02:13:30] Speaker B: Now, is it just me or is this sound like another song on this record? Like that Rick at the. [02:13:38] Speaker C: Other songs or six other songs on the track? [02:13:40] Speaker D: Yeah, it's starting to sound all the. [02:13:42] Speaker B: Same now, but it sounds really like some other song on here. I mean, I know it's all in the same style, but I don't know. [02:13:49] Speaker D: Yeah, no, I know what you mean, Mark. It sounds something else and it's reached. [02:13:55] Speaker B: Where it's like but it's not as good of a version of something else. [02:13:58] Speaker D: That'S the I don't you can't hear the lyric really well and it sounds all over the place. [02:14:04] Speaker B: So let's take the boat out on the bay forget your job for just one day I wish it didn't have to be so bad it might be inappropriate because either way our band gets dropped. Oh, yeah, I wish it didn't have to be so bad. But I play with fire to break the ice. I play with a nuclear device. Is it something I'll regret or do I want what I can't get? I wish this didn't. [02:15:07] Speaker A: Have to be so bad. But I played Friday and I played the Nuclei. This is nothing I regret. But you want what I can't have to be so bad. I'll be moving on. Moving on? Moving on moving on moving on moving on but I play with fire to break the ice and I play with the nuclear device is it something I regret? Would you want what I can't get? I wish it didn't have to be so bad. I wish it didn't have to be so bad. I wish it didn't have to be so bad. I wish it didn't have to be so bad. [02:16:36] Speaker B: Okay, so supposedly it's about his boat. Wendy clear. And how boaters end transmissions by letting other boaters know the channel is open for use or clear. But he wrote the song while on tour having a crush on someone they are not supposed to like. In this case, it was specifically someone who worked at Blink 182s, then record label MCA, which doesn't really have anything to do about his boat. It's just Wendy Clear is just a transmission thing from the boat. That's just the name, but I know. Okay, Frank, go ahead before you do it. [02:17:20] Speaker D: I'll read the last yeah, read the last. [02:17:22] Speaker B: The three date theory's getting old. Everyone is getting left out in the cold. I wish it didn't have to be so bad I'll see you with another guy who pretends not to hear you when you cry oh, yeah I wish it didn't have to be so bad but I'd play with fire to break the ice I play with a nuclear device. I like that. That's all right is this something I'll regret or do I want what I can't get? I wish it didn't have to be so bad and then moving on, moving on, moving on and then chorus. Okay, go ahead. [02:17:55] Speaker D: Yeah, like we said, the song sounds now it's starting to sound all the same. Not crazy about it. The lyrics are pretty cool, but not great. So for me, I'm going to give the writing, going to give it a five. And the music and the production I'm sorry, it's hard to hear. It sounds all over the place. I'm going to give each of those a five as well. So five. [02:18:22] Speaker B: Five and five for OOH, frank is fucking killing that. Go ahead. [02:18:31] Speaker C: Oh, I'm up. [02:18:32] Speaker B: Yeah. You're. [02:18:36] Speaker C: Going to say a four on the lyrics? [02:18:39] Speaker B: Oh, here it comes. It took this long? [02:18:44] Speaker C: Yeah. Well, I mean, because like I said, some of the other stuff is it gets goofy at points, but there's a story there that's kind of relatable. And here, technically, there could be something relatable, but it's just I don't know, at a certain point, it sounds like a commercial. I mean, let's take the boat out on the bay forget your job for just one day. [02:19:11] Speaker D: Music very mentally, very mentor, boring. [02:19:16] Speaker B: Would you say mentos? [02:19:18] Speaker D: Yeah, it's like a very mentos kind of lyric commercial. [02:19:21] Speaker B: That's pretty funny. [02:19:22] Speaker C: Exactly. You could picture him doing the I'm going to say five on the know again. Travis Barker does some cool stuff. He does this really fast thing on the ride that I like a couple times. I mean, the drums definitely sound better in this one. There's definitely a difference. But overall, I'm not crazy about the production on this one either, so I'm going to say six. [02:19:44] Speaker B: Yeah. [02:19:45] Speaker C: Lord. [02:19:49] Speaker B: Yeah. I'm going to give it five on the lyrics only for the one lyric that says I play with fire to break the ice and I play with a nuclear device that gives it one point better than the last one. Musicians five. Yeah, there's nothing that does anything for me. And it's not that it's sounding the same, it's just this stuff is not as good as the stuff at the top and that they're going to twelve songs here, which they maybe should have not done. I mean, we'll see what the next the last song brings, but I think we all could live without Mutt or this one on this record. And then production, I'm going to give it a six. I'm not a big fan of the way it's sounding right at the moment. I don't know if it's just they were getting tired. [02:20:37] Speaker D: Yeah, I think that's what it might be, too. [02:20:40] Speaker B: Maybe that's what it is, I don't know. Anyway, so here's the last song. This is anthem. [02:20:45] Speaker D: Okay. [02:20:45] Speaker C: Wasn't this a hit, too? Anthem. I remember hearing the name Anthem. [02:20:49] Speaker B: I'm pretty positive. Yeah, it did something. Here we go. [02:21:17] Speaker A: Forgive our neighbor Bob I think he hunts a dog but you think come to those who wait cut. She laid me and mom and dad possess the key it's a slave already no need explain the window even farther I'll pack my bags I swear I'll run wish my friends were 21. [02:21:49] Speaker B: Yeah, I don't know if this was a single or not. I don't think it was. From what I can tell. Home show. Mom won't know run out the back door he's passed out on the floor third time. Been caught twice. Forgive our neighbor Bob. I think he humped a dog. But good things come to those who wait cause she laid me and mom and dad possess the key. Instant slavery. No need to explain the plan no need to even bother I'll pack my bags I swear I'll run wish my friends were 21 teenage Angst. I mean, that's where it kind of gets the goofiness, right? But it would be something that a 15 year old would say, right? I don't know if this is much better than the other stuff that just came before it, but no, it's not. [02:22:45] Speaker A: Eyes on the mall christmas with lipstick better call their father sleeping with your daughter what could he jump? You know you babe cause she laid me and mom and dad cause that's the key instant slave I ray no need explain the plan no need to even bother I'll pack my bags I swear I'll run wish my friends were 21. You don't want you carry on. You went there all you had your mind got me along that lady bomb I time bomb I. Time bomb I. Time bomb I. Time bomb I. [02:23:57] Speaker B: The drums are just going nuts. It's just a constant super fast beat. I mean, there's some fast fills in. [02:24:03] Speaker C: There and it feels like the guitar is not playing, like they're playing two different songs. [02:24:09] Speaker B: I mean, I'm assuming that's the point. I guess what they're trying to do, because even over here, like, the guitars are doing really slow lines, but the drums are doing super fast stuff. So I don't know, I'm not too sure what's going on here, but all right, let me read lyrics. White lies bloodshot eyes, breath of alcohol stole it from the mall house chris marked with lipstick better call their fathers sleeping with your daughters but all things come to those who wait because she laid me and mom and dad possessed the key instant slavery. No need to explain the plan. No need to even bother. I'll pack my bags, I swear I'll run. Wish my friends were 21 you don't belong, you left the kids to carry on. You planned their fall. Too bad you're wrong. Don't need a mom dad sleeve drives song itime bomb, itime bomb, itime bomb, itime bomb. [02:25:39] Speaker A: In death but that's the key instance play by him no need explain the plan. No need to even bother. I'll pack my back, I swear I'll run. Wish my friends were 21 years to carry on your road me drive song I time bomb, I time, I time bomb I time bomb, I cry. [02:26:38] Speaker B: Who wants to go first? [02:26:41] Speaker D: I think you should go first, Mark. [02:26:44] Speaker C: I'm going to say a four again on the lyrics. I don't know, at this point, I feel like, okay, stop thinking about this shit, you know what I mean? I don't know. Music is a mess. So I'm going to say four on the music. [02:27:09] Speaker B: There it comes. [02:27:11] Speaker C: Maybe five. I'll do five because there's still some drumming stuff. That's cool. [02:27:17] Speaker B: And it's got to be hard to play that fast for that long of a time. [02:27:20] Speaker A: Yeah. [02:27:22] Speaker B: It feels like there's a stamina thing going on there. [02:27:25] Speaker A: Yeah. [02:27:25] Speaker C: Production. I mean, I'll see six again on production. [02:27:33] Speaker B: Mark I'm going to say five run lyrics only because they don't say anthem at all in the song. So I'm going to give the one point over you just for that. [02:27:44] Speaker C: All right? That's fair. [02:27:46] Speaker B: Music. I don't know. You're right. It sounds like a different song. I mean, there's some fast drumming, there's a lot of fast fills. I mean, I have to give it a five just for his drumming alone. I think that really does it. I'm not a big fan of the melody or his vocals on this specifically. And production six, I think we could have ended this record at the party. Song that's my opinion. Frank. [02:28:23] Speaker D: Yeah. This sounds like a last minute throw it in, let's get this album over with kind of filler song. So the lyric I don't know, man. I'm going to give that a five. There's nothing that pops. It's okay, but it's not like something that stands out is going to carry the torts of you, the musicianship. I don't know, man. It sounded all over the place. I don't know. I mean, I like the drumming, appreciate the drumming. But this is one of those soundtracks that the drumming just wasn't enough. So I'm going to give that a five and the production engineering part of it, I don't know if the song was all over the place. I mean, how can you make it sound even better or clearer? I don't know, but I'm going to give that a five. So I'm going to give a five across the boards. [02:29:23] Speaker C: So we made it through an mark. [02:29:32] Speaker D: I don't know. I think we lost mark. [02:29:34] Speaker C: I think he's muted. [02:29:35] Speaker B: No, I was muted. Sorry. Okay. Yeah. I knew you wanted to get through it, so I let us go through it because I know that this is not your favorite thing in the world. [02:29:47] Speaker C: It's not my genre. It's just really not. Hey, listen, for what it's worth, when I said the beginning something super weird, I know this is not super weird, but this is the kind of thing that I kind of envision something where I'm like that adam song sticks out a lot to me, without a doubt. [02:30:12] Speaker B: Yeah, I know. [02:30:17] Speaker C: Obviously, Travis Barker's drumming. And listen, within what they're trying to do, it's fine, but you just have to be a fan. [02:30:30] Speaker B: Well, like I said, I know. I listened to this record a lot during when it was new, so I don't hate this record. I like a lot of things about it. I don't like everything about it. So for me, you can kind of see after the party song, it kind of falls off. It kind of falls off whatever was interesting and things that were going on. I think those lasting tracks feel like we just jammed in there for the sake of jamming them in there. [02:31:12] Speaker C: Hey, listen, no matter what, I think 15 million copies sold. [02:31:16] Speaker B: This is very true. [02:31:19] Speaker C: Sitting here rocking in my chair. [02:31:22] Speaker B: Yeah, it is. [02:31:27] Speaker C: Kudos to Blink 182. [02:31:30] Speaker D: Yeah. [02:31:30] Speaker B: For getting having a diamond record. You can't complain, right? [02:31:33] Speaker C: No. Give them credit. [02:31:36] Speaker B: So what did you think overall, Frank? [02:31:38] Speaker D: It's kind of right there, what I was expecting. Like that time where we're transitioning to a new genre, new generation of music and things like that. So Blink 182, it's just that bridge band that captures that transition really well. Overall, the album I thought was okay. It was really good for what it was what it was doing at the time. So is it something I want to listen to again? Yeah, probably. Is this something that I'm going to go and reach for and put on my playlist right away? No, because then again, it's not for me. The genre of music is just not for me. I'm not saying it's bad. It's just not for me. [02:32:21] Speaker B: Yeah, I agree. I mean, I like two or three songs on here that I could put on a list of stuff, but I haven't listened to a record a long, long probably since it was new. More than likely. So it shows you that I don't go back and listen to them. I just knew when I put it on the list, I'd like, this is going to come up for Savino and he's not going to like this at all. Although you ended up liking a couple of songs, which I was surprised you actually didn't slam it until it got to the end. [02:32:46] Speaker C: No, I mean, like I said, ultimately, as somebody again sitting here and whatever, I do want to be respectful because again, even the stuff that we've written, not everyone's going to like, and again, this is more of a case of it's just not my cup of tea. And listen, we're going to get other stuff, other types of music too, like SCA. Not a massive fan of SCA. So once we start getting into that, I'm going to probably be saying the same thing. [02:33:20] Speaker B: Yeah, I get it. Well, we got through a record for the second time all the way through. [02:33:26] Speaker C: I know. [02:33:27] Speaker B: So we get to spin the Wheel again next week. Woohoo. [02:33:30] Speaker C: And it's not even 02:00 in the morning. [02:33:32] Speaker B: No, this is very true. [02:33:33] Speaker C: Yeah. [02:33:34] Speaker B: So, Sabina, why don't you do your thing? [02:33:36] Speaker C: So we are part of the Deep Dive podcast network. Again, great bunch of guys, more individualized in terms of what they do. Guys like Rush, Rash, who they were on our last two podcasts where we covered the C Ray Vaughn album. Again. You got Tom Petty, rye heap queen. I mean, you name the band, the Rock Band, they probably do it. And again. [02:34:03] Speaker B: Van Halen. Van helen don't forget Van Halen. [02:34:05] Speaker C: Van Halen, Led Zeppelin. You name it, they got it. So again, it's your more individualized. You want to hear just about a certain specific band that's probably your cup of tea because they're definitely, probably more experts than we are, a lot of those things. But yeah, check them out. For sure. Mark, where are we on social media? [02:34:31] Speaker B: Rockwood pod everywhere. Rockwoodletpodcast.com comment. Share our episodes. Please rate us on whatever podcast app you use, whether that's good pods or whatever it is. And that helps us move up in the actual rankings. So that's great. We hope that everyone's enjoying this. This is only the second time we've ever gotten through a whole record in one shot. But I didn't want to torture Savino for another whole episode, so I figured we'd let it ride through. And the songs are short. [02:35:08] Speaker C: Been too short, maybe too right for like two episodes, it really wouldn't start. [02:35:14] Speaker B: Yeah. [02:35:15] Speaker C: Hey, Mark, can we get a really good comment this week? Wasn't some say awesome? [02:35:19] Speaker B: Which one was that? I don't remember. [02:35:21] Speaker C: The one you forwarded to us. And I said, was he high? Joking around, of course. [02:35:26] Speaker B: Oh yeah. So what did I send to you? Let me see if I can find it really quick. [02:35:31] Speaker C: I just like pointing out again, giving a shout out to people that. Leave comments. [02:35:38] Speaker B: Yep. It was Stephen Hadaway. I posted our episode of Steve Rayvon on Steve Ray Vaughn. I forget exactly which one it was, and he said, Outstanding, bud. I just saved that episode and realized I should be following your podcast. Looks like a lot of great stuff. Thank you for sharing with us. So that's cool. Thank you for listening. I'm happy that there's other stuff that he likes besides the Steve Rayborn stuff. [02:36:10] Speaker D: It's nice to know people listen outside of the girlfriends and friends and wives. [02:36:16] Speaker B: This is true. [02:36:17] Speaker C: Let me tell you something. I don't either. [02:36:22] Speaker D: Yeah. [02:36:23] Speaker B: Who knows? [02:36:23] Speaker C: Every once in a while, I kind of go to people like, I have a podcast. You're like what? Podcast. Like what? I was like, yeah, we got a podcast. Check it out. [02:36:32] Speaker B: Yeah. Well, I guess we'll spin the Wheel again next week. Awesome. [02:36:40] Speaker D: All right. Next we're going to get a SCA band, which I'm going to love. We're going to get back to back. [02:36:46] Speaker C: I'll be happy with if it's SCA and it's another 30 minutes record, get it done. [02:36:54] Speaker B: Yeah. You didn't even like no Doubt back in the day. [02:36:58] Speaker C: No Doubt. [02:37:01] Speaker D: They're not really SCA goldfish. [02:37:03] Speaker B: I know. Well. [02:37:08] Speaker C: Whatever. My friends went through a SCA phase where, literally, that's all they would play, so I wasn't a big fan of it, even though it was just funny because I love jazz, and I love a lot of the components of kind of that go into it, but just not that mix of it. But they went through a phase where all of them listened to that form of music for whatever reason. That was it. I'm like, you guys. [02:37:35] Speaker B: It lasted for, like, a year, and then it went away. [02:37:38] Speaker D: Then it went away. I just like the dance. I like to see the people dance with Scott. It's great. [02:37:44] Speaker C: Yeah, that's cool, too. Like I said, the elements are there. You know what I mean? The elements are there. But, hey, again, listen, this is why we do this, right? You listen to stuff, and sometimes you change your mind and you say, wow, I'm kind of digging this now. Sometimes you're like, okay, I didn't like it then. I don't like it now. [02:38:07] Speaker B: I get you. [02:38:08] Speaker C: That's why we do this. [02:38:10] Speaker B: This is very true. All right, well, everybody, we will see you next week, and we'll be spinning the Wheel again, so we get another Fresh album. [02:38:18] Speaker C: Yeah. [02:38:19] Speaker B: Nice. [02:38:20] Speaker D: All right. [02:38:21] Speaker C: Very nice. [02:38:22] Speaker B: All right. Later. [02:38:23] Speaker C: Ciao. Ciao. [02:38:23] Speaker D: Good night.