Episode 101 - Bon Jovi - Slippery When Wet (Part 2)

[00:00:04] Speaker A: This is our musical reaction, breakdown and commentary analysis of this song. Under fair use, we intend no copyright infringement, and this is not a replacement for listening to the artist's music. The content made available on this podcast is for educational and informational purposes only, notwithstanding a copyright owner's rights under the Copyright act. Section 107 of the Copyright act allows limited use of copyrighted material without requiring permission from the rights holders for purposes such as education, criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research. These so called fair uses are permitted even if the use of the work would otherwise be infringing. Now, on to the Rock Roulette podcast. [00:01:14] Speaker B: Hey, everybody. Welcome back to another episode of Rock Roulette podcast. That's right, the Crazy Ass podcast that took over 1300 albums. That's right. Mark bumped it up this week and put them in a list, stuck them in a wheel. And every other week, typically, we spin the wheel, she picks a record for us, and we go track by track, side by side, and we rate the songs based on lyrics, music, and production. Again, just a bunch of friends who wanted to do a podcast. And even before we started, you know, surprise, surprise, Frank's on with us tonight. We just went back down memory lane about grammar school and all the stupid shit that maybe we didn't do, but the people around us did. But, you know, we all contributed and, you know, we all had fun, so we all got our stories. So again, let me welcome frankenous. My name is Frank, and I'm sexy. [00:02:16] Speaker C: All right. Hello, everybody. [00:02:20] Speaker B: I was dancing like the Numa Numa guy to that thing. We have Mark. Oh, hi, Mark. And I'm Sav. Ciao, bonase. Let's just do a quick thing. Last week, it was our 100th episode, and basically what we did was we took a handful of records that had come up on the wheel, but we couldn't do at the time either because it was too soon or it was just Mark and I. We kind of would have had more people on when we did it. And the wheel picked slippery one wet by Bon Jovi. So she has picked the two most massive Bon Jovi albums for us, which is not always in her. In her nature. But obviously, it brings us back to a different time and some of the things that we had gone to, especially the things that Frank and I were talking about before the podcast and the stupid shit. A lot of it happened right around that time. But what do you guys think? What do you think so far? [00:03:19] Speaker A: Um, I like. Well, obviously I liked the record. I think I liked the record more than you liked the record. [00:03:24] Speaker B: I think you did. I think you did. [00:03:28] Speaker A: I know. [00:03:29] Speaker B: Listen, I would never knock. I mean, living on a prayer is just, like the perfect pop metal song. I mean, you know, you give love a bad name. Just good time songs. I mean, obviously one is OSha disease, though. I put my hands up in a crucifix in a cross when I hear that song. [00:03:47] Speaker A: Yeah. Well, I got something for Frank. Hold on. [00:03:51] Speaker B: Oh, you got something else? [00:03:53] Speaker A: Yeah, I got something for Frank here. He wanted this last week, and here it is. [00:03:59] Speaker C: All right, there you go. For the 100th anniversary, although you're trying to tell me that today's episode is 101. [00:04:08] Speaker B: It's 101. [00:04:09] Speaker A: I don't know. [00:04:10] Speaker C: It should just be part of 100 and. [00:04:12] Speaker B: I know. Well, that's what I was thinking. It's like 100 b, right? It's like a and b. [00:04:16] Speaker C: It's 100 b. [00:04:17] Speaker B: It's like. [00:04:17] Speaker C: It's like the Sopranos, you know, season six, a six b, like that. [00:04:22] Speaker B: Okay, are we gonna play don't stop believing and then just cut? [00:04:26] Speaker C: Yeah, exactly. Yeah. [00:04:29] Speaker B: I saw some pretty good videos lately on that, though, I have to say, that made the episode better. So, you know, if you ever get a chance, check it out. Okay. So, obviously. Oh, Mark, you say something? [00:04:43] Speaker A: Yeah. So, Frank, what did you think of the record so far? He thought, well, it's great. [00:04:47] Speaker B: I kind of heard him starting. I thought he was gonna jump back in. [00:04:50] Speaker C: No, no, it's great. You know, brings back, like I said, like you said, it brings back some. So many great memories. And for me, this is one of those genre defining albums that, when you really think about that, the peak of hair metal, this is one of those owls that just jump at you. And it's really, I think, that oval that brought metal to the mainstream, kind of. [00:05:15] Speaker B: In a way, I think this probably elevated it. Like, I mean, again, we talk about this, but I think kind of like quiet riot and twisted sister kind of brought it. Right. It kind of brought it out there, but albums like this just. [00:05:32] Speaker C: It just brought to the next level. [00:05:34] Speaker B: Yeah, without a doubt. Without a doubt. [00:05:37] Speaker C: And then. And then it was just one of these albums. Of course. It just kind of brought Bon Jovi to the stratosphere, you know, in the tour for. This was a tremendous success. And so. Yeah, so great. I'm just very happy we had this opportunity to review it, too. [00:05:56] Speaker B: Yeah, I think. I think it's a good. It's a. It's a landmark album for 100th episode. And, I mean, you know, again, anybody who was there. I mean, anybody who was. Anybody alive at that time, knew who they were, and without a doubt knew. [00:06:11] Speaker C: At least. [00:06:12] Speaker B: It doesn't matter what music you listen to, whatever music you listen to, you knew at least one of these songs. If you clicked on the radio, you're like, oh, I know the song. So. [00:06:22] Speaker C: Yep. [00:06:23] Speaker B: I mean, obviously this. This was a massive, massive record, so. But before we start side two, we did introduce a new segment last week, which we like to call new bets, where basically someone brings something to the. Says, hey, I. This band, or whoever it is, has a new song out. Maybe not within. It doesn't have to be specifically right now, but, you know, recently it's like, hey, you know, let's throw this out there and listen to it. So, Mark, last week you brought the striper song. What was the name of it? [00:06:56] Speaker A: That's a very good question. I don't remember. [00:06:57] Speaker B: Yeah, I'm glad I'm not the only one I forgot. Oh, yeah, Frank, then what's it called, man? [00:07:02] Speaker C: I came in late. [00:07:04] Speaker B: Yeah, he was driving. It's called I was driving end of day. [00:07:10] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:07:10] Speaker B: I mean, a pretty. Pretty good piece of power metal. Again. I mean, if you guys listen to the more recent stuff, they've kind of have. They've kind of gone into that trajectory. And not that some of the earlier stuff wasn't like that, but I mean, good stuff. The guy can still sing. They can still play. The solos were pretty good. Yeah, Mark. [00:07:31] Speaker A: Yeah, everything was good. [00:07:32] Speaker B: Yeah. Good. Good choice to start off this new segment. So my pick this week. [00:07:42] Speaker A: Wait, wait, wait. Hold on. [00:07:43] Speaker B: Oh, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. You're right. We. Wait, we got a new. [00:07:45] Speaker A: We have intro music. Music now. [00:07:47] Speaker B: Yes. So let's do that. Go ahead. [00:07:48] Speaker A: Okay, here we go. [00:07:51] Speaker C: In a world where new music is not easy to find. Welcome to new bets. [00:08:06] Speaker B: Do we need more cowbell? Are we gonna make that blatant, that hobby joke or. Because last week I was banging my. I was just banging my water bottle, which I still have here. See, that's live. That's not tracked. [00:08:20] Speaker C: Yeah, it would have been great if you did the. If you did the rap horns at the end of that. Just one. [00:08:28] Speaker B: So a band that was featured on the podcast with an album that was one of my. Probably one of my favorites of all time. Jane's addiction has a new song out, the original members. So for the first time in 34 years of court, four members of James addiction have released a new song together. I was like, oh, wow. It's like they released it just for this. I told myself, you know, what? I'm not gonna listen to it. I'll bring it up on the podcast. It's called imminent redemption. And I've. Either one of you heard anything about this or any piece of it or anything? [00:09:07] Speaker A: No. [00:09:08] Speaker B: Frank. [00:09:09] Speaker C: Mm hmm. [00:09:10] Speaker B: Yeah, you've heard. [00:09:11] Speaker C: I'm actually. Oh, I didn't hear the song yet. No, I think it came out. I think it came out yesterday. [00:09:16] Speaker B: No, I think the album two days ago. [00:09:20] Speaker A: 24. 24. [00:09:21] Speaker C: Yeah, the 24th. [00:09:22] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:09:22] Speaker C: So, yeah, I haven't had a chance to listen to it. [00:09:25] Speaker B: I mean, this is fresh af. [00:09:28] Speaker A: The way this segments are gonna work is we're gonna. We're gonna stick a bunch of new things into the wheel, a little wheel just for this, singles. And then if someone wants to pick something, they can, or they can go to the wheel, let the wheel pick a new song. So we're going to gather a bunch of songs up, and then. So Frank is next week, probably, so he can pick. He can pick the song next week, or you can go to the wheel and let the new bets wheel pick it for him. [00:09:52] Speaker B: We have a little baby wheel now. [00:09:54] Speaker A: We got baby wheel. [00:09:57] Speaker B: Nice. So, I mean, Mark, whenever you're ready, man. I'm excited to hear this. I'm very curious. [00:10:02] Speaker C: Let's get this going. [00:10:03] Speaker A: Yeah, here we go. This is imminent redemption. [00:10:13] Speaker D: Let's make some good trouble. Let's call in the drama. Hot stakes in our drama. And we need the women, too. Let's stir up that karma and put it in your pocket. Come back, come, come back. [00:10:40] Speaker A: What do we think about that ten? [00:10:43] Speaker B: Yeah, I don't know if I'm. But I'm bobbing my head. [00:10:49] Speaker A: The bass is nasty. [00:10:50] Speaker B: Production is pretty good. [00:10:52] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, sounds a little. [00:10:55] Speaker B: They're a great bunch of musicians, man. Could be theirs. [00:11:01] Speaker A: It sounds like something. No, it sounds like something else. I don't know what it sounds like. [00:11:04] Speaker C: Well, that base. The base. The base opening is great. Sounds a little bit like early Ellie Chili peppers. [00:11:12] Speaker A: Dave Navarro is doing what he normally does, so of course. [00:11:18] Speaker C: Just be awesome. That's it. [00:11:20] Speaker A: Yeah. Awesome. All right, let's continue. Here we go. [00:11:36] Speaker D: I see you. We meet again in the saw my heart head. Remember, tried for jacobs and behind shake, shake, shake up more trouble over my weapon always outside the sound is very sweet. It's the imminent redemption. Let's all make a comeback. [00:12:56] Speaker A: Before it continues. His voice does sound different, though. [00:12:59] Speaker C: Yeah, his voice sounds very different. [00:13:02] Speaker B: Oh, I can tell Tim, though, right? I mean, it's. Yeah, it's such a distinctive voice. Yeah. I mean, this is also 34 years later, so. But, I mean, there's interesting. I'm not too crazy about the chorus. I don't feel like the chorus kind of does much for the song, but I like the verse and, and all the music that's going on. It's noisy. I mean, it sounds like them. It doesn't. It sounds like a natural progression to me. [00:13:31] Speaker A: Sometimes you need 34 years in between things. I guess so. All right, let's continue. We're almost done. Here we go. [00:13:44] Speaker D: It's not only me. We all need a little redeeming. From the coco fields of Colombia, 17 DC. Can you ever forgive me? Always be in every redemption I see again in the unique redemption. [00:14:35] Speaker B: It's quick. [00:14:37] Speaker C: Mm hmm. [00:14:38] Speaker A: Two picks. Two good picks in a row. [00:14:40] Speaker B: I would have liked to, I honestly would have liked the song to be longer. I would have liked, I really liked the music. Again, I'm not too crazy about the chorus, but all that other stuff is really good. [00:14:49] Speaker C: Mm hmm. I love the bass opening. [00:14:52] Speaker B: Yeah. The guitar shit he's doing. I mean, again, to me, they were always a standout band. Nothing shocking to me is one of top albums. It's just a great, great album. And, I mean, the other two aren't bad either. I mean, I know that they're on the, on, on the, on the wheel. And so hopefully we can. We'll get to them someday. [00:15:18] Speaker A: Yeah, I'm sure we will. I'm sure we will. But, yeah, it was a good choice. There's two good choices in a row now. Frankie has to decide next, what? Next week. Whether he's going to pick a or he's going to put it is he's going to leave it to the wheel to fucking pick it. [00:15:31] Speaker C: Yeah. Little disappointed. Juana's addiction couldn't wait till next week. [00:15:35] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:15:46] Speaker C: They'Re going to be in New York. [00:15:48] Speaker B: They're going to be in Connecticut. I think they're going to be. So just a little thing. Mark and I went to go see Sammy Hager the other night. [00:15:55] Speaker C: Oh, yeah? [00:15:56] Speaker B: Yeah. I mean, it's funny. It's kind of promoted Sammy Hagar, but it's, well, I guess. Right. I mean, but obviously Joe Satriani, Michael Anthony and Jason Bonham on, on drums. That is one loud place. [00:16:14] Speaker C: Holy moly. I saw, yeah, I saw candle box there. [00:16:21] Speaker B: Did you really? In Bridgeport? [00:16:24] Speaker C: Yeah, last summer. Yeah, they were there. I saw Google dolls there. [00:16:29] Speaker B: Nice. [00:16:30] Speaker C: Let me see. Was a couple bands I got to catch there. They were really good. [00:16:33] Speaker B: Yeah, they got some pretty big names there. I mean, it's definitely a place to keep on the radar. [00:16:38] Speaker A: Even, even lover boy was pretty good, too. [00:16:41] Speaker B: They were good. Yeah. Shout out to lover boy. I mean, I mean, honestly, I knew waiting, working for the weekend and the, what was it called, Mark? That other song that you played in the car, and they actually played it right before that. I don't remember what it's called, but that song was, the bass player was doing like solos on the bass and I mean, they were really good. [00:17:02] Speaker A: And we found out that we've been listening to working for the weeknd single version for all of our life. [00:17:08] Speaker B: Yes. [00:17:10] Speaker A: And we never knew that, Frank. [00:17:11] Speaker B: That's right. [00:17:12] Speaker C: God, are you serious? [00:17:13] Speaker B: I'm not kidding. Mark and I were listening to it on the way down. It comes on, right? He's doing like a playlist. This part comes on, and literally at the same time, we look at each other like, what the hell is this part? Hmm. Yeah. [00:17:26] Speaker A: We'd already heard it on the radio, a single, and we never heard it anywhere else, so we didn't really know. We were like, huh? What the hell's that? [00:17:35] Speaker C: What day were they there? [00:17:37] Speaker B: It was Wednesday night. [00:17:39] Speaker A: It was the 24 July. Yeah, it was good. The show was good. Our seats sucked a little bit, but other than that, it was good. And funny part about it, there was, there were a bunch of people that I saw on my feet who were there too. Just kind of funny. [00:17:57] Speaker B: Yeah. And a very famous somebody went to high school with. [00:18:01] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:18:02] Speaker B: Who is in a couple very famous bands posted that he was there as well, but we didn't see him mention names on here. But, yeah, just leave it at that, just in case. [00:18:13] Speaker C: Oh, he was, he was there. [00:18:14] Speaker B: Mm hmm. Oh, yeah, he posted that he was there. He probably had better seats. He's probably like right, right there. Maybe he was on stage. He probably knows these people personally. [00:18:24] Speaker C: So he was sitting in their top, us, watching it from the feet. Yeah. [00:18:28] Speaker B: Basically having some cobble wobble tequila and having some mastica tequila. [00:18:34] Speaker A: And he was given, he was giving out shots to people while they were there. Yeah. Signing stuff on. Yeah. [00:18:40] Speaker B: People throwing shit up on stage. He was signing it. He's thrown out like, red cups with tequila in there, like, handing them out. [00:18:47] Speaker A: Yeah, he was good. It was a good thing. They were, they were really good. [00:18:50] Speaker B: And they played for like 2 hours straight. They didn't do an encore, but they played for like two. Over two hour. A little over 2 hours, I think. [00:18:57] Speaker A: Yeah, they got started even a little early. Yeah, it was good. It was very good. So if anyone is, like, thinking and that's coming to your area and you're thinking you don't. You don't want to see it because it's not Van Halen. Go see it. You'll be happy, you know. Yes, it's not Van Halen, but you're never gonna hear these songs, probably again. So, you know, you got a chance to listen to them now. So if you can go see it, you should go see it. [00:19:21] Speaker B: And the crowd was into it, you know what I mean? There was no. Oh, you know what I mean? Like, you could tell that the crowd really appreciated the show. I mean, obviously, Mark, you read more about it than I do, but the criticisms and the, oh, Satriani this and Jason Bonham that and blah, blah, blah. But I mean, the crowd was into it. There's a lot of lover boy fans there, too, that were singing all the songs. So it's definitely especially for people who never got to. I mean, I've never seen Van Halen any, you know, variation of them live. So just hearing those songs live was really good. And, I mean, what would you say, mark, 80% of the show is Van Halen, right? Maybe 85. [00:20:02] Speaker A: Yeah, I would say at least 80, 85%. Yeah, almost 90%. [00:20:06] Speaker B: Yeah, mostly his stuff. But I mean, again, I was able to sing along to. There's some songs I didn't specifically know. But, you know, by the time I got there, Mark made sure that I knew everything that I knew everything that he played. [00:20:23] Speaker A: So I was trying to keep. I was trying to get him up to speed on the way up. Frank. I played stuff I thought they were going to play well. [00:20:31] Speaker B: My thing was I never really listened, you know, 5150, I wasn't. I never really like. I've heard a lot of, you know, for unlawful and bounce, but not the other two. [00:20:41] Speaker C: For whatever reason, I like 51, but for unlawful nouns, for unlawful carnal knowledge is one of my favorite. [00:20:48] Speaker A: Yeah, me too. [00:20:49] Speaker B: Yeah. But I mean, they were really tight. Michael Anthony can sing like a. Like a kid. [00:20:55] Speaker C: Really? [00:20:56] Speaker B: Yeah, he did. They did. Ain't talking about love with him. And he did like, you know, those typical, you know, hair metal screens. [00:21:03] Speaker D: Wow. [00:21:04] Speaker B: He was doing it throughout the whole show. [00:21:07] Speaker C: Wow. Yeah, and he was good. And he was fine. [00:21:10] Speaker B: Great. They were, I mean, they were tighten. [00:21:12] Speaker A: Yeah, no tracks. [00:21:15] Speaker B: Really fun. Yeah, they had a keyboard player there. He was a lot of fun. [00:21:21] Speaker C: I could go look for them now. See this on him. [00:21:25] Speaker A: I don't know where they are now. They were in Saratoga and then they were in Connecticut. [00:21:31] Speaker C: Saratoga is another good venue. That's a very fun venue. [00:21:35] Speaker A: Yeah, we were thinking about going there, but. But Connecticut was closer, so. Went to Connecticut. [00:21:38] Speaker C: Oh, Saratoga is a hike. You're staying there. [00:21:42] Speaker A: Yeah. And so the good thing is, now we can segue into this from the Van Halen talk because the next song to me sounds like a Van Halen song. And I told this to Savino, too. So are we ready? [00:21:54] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:21:55] Speaker A: Here we go. This is. Raise your hand. There's no doubt that that's a Van Halen and fluid song. No doubt. No doubt. Do you know what anyone. Does anyone know what song I'm thinking of? [00:22:23] Speaker B: You mentioned it to me, but I don't remember. [00:22:27] Speaker A: I'm the one. Do you remember? I'm the one. Does anybody remember it? Either of you? [00:22:31] Speaker B: I listen, as soon as you play it, I'll remember it, but I don't. [00:22:34] Speaker A: Okay, so I'm gonna. I'm gonna play. I'm gonna play. I'm the one. So you can hear it and you tell me if it does. It's not exactly, but the riff is definitely reminiscent. So here you go. It's not exactly. [00:23:04] Speaker C: Wow. I can argue that that was Randy Rose in crazy train. [00:23:09] Speaker A: No, it can't be, because Van Halen came out first. [00:23:13] Speaker C: That single came out first? [00:23:15] Speaker A: Yeah, 1978. [00:23:16] Speaker C: Oh, okay. That was a little bit later. [00:23:19] Speaker B: Well, I go. I will go on record saying that I definitely like the Van Halen song better. This is not one of my favorite songs on this album. It's. I mean, again, it's. [00:23:27] Speaker A: I like this song, but, I mean, it's not better than the Van Halen song, but. [00:23:30] Speaker B: But I'm ready to give it another chance because I haven't heard this song in years because I always skip this one. I do know it, though, and I can probably sing it. That's the funny thing. [00:23:38] Speaker A: Yeah, I know. Of course you can. All right, so let's start this over. Here we go. [00:24:10] Speaker D: You. You got a nasty reputation? When a sticky situation? It's down on me and you to tell me here's the truth? They say there ain't nobody better? Now that we're together? Show me what you can do? You're gonna run? Gonna set the night on fire? I wanna run under the gun? Lay it away? Raise your hand? When you wanna let it go? Raise your hand? You wanna let me show you? To Chicago in the desert to Tokyo? [00:25:17] Speaker B: So I do find it funny how he goes from New York to Chicago and then New Jersey to Tokyo. But it does make sense because I think they have a Tokyo road as a song on the. On the album before this. Yeah, but, yeah, I mean, this is. I don't think there's any. Me personally, there's nothing special, like when you come from a song, like wanted, right, where I think there's just something kind of special about that song. Right. And it's. There's signs of, I think signs of growth. And I think we all spoke about this last week. We can kind of hear, alright, a little bit of transition that, that's gonna go into the next album. But this is. It's kind of. Again, it's like, what's the first one? Let it rock. I mean, me personally, I'm not saying it's not a terrible song. It's not like, oh, my God, this song sucks. But I just think there's better on here. I just feel this is more generic compared to some of the other stuff, especially the lyrics. [00:26:05] Speaker A: To me, it's more like. To me it's more like 700 fahrenheit. But I do like the ref. It's a fun song to play. I played this song a bunch. I like the song. It is very reminiscent of the Van Halen song. Even, like, the parts where it breaks. Even though he does different stuff. It's like, it's very similar. But I do like it. I don't. I mean, it's still, to me, it's still a strong opening track. [00:26:27] Speaker B: Yeah. I mean, it's a good side to track. [00:26:29] Speaker A: I don't know what. Anything else on the side here that really would open up as good as that. [00:26:33] Speaker B: Yeah, probably not looking at the track listing. [00:26:36] Speaker A: Yeah, if you're looking at the track listing. Yeah, man. [00:26:39] Speaker C: Maybe not. [00:26:40] Speaker B: Kind of. I would say not nine. I'm sorry, number eight. Number eight. [00:26:44] Speaker A: Maybe, maybe, maybe. [00:26:46] Speaker B: But yeah, I mean, listen, as a slide opener. Yeah, this is probably the best choice from the songs on the second side. And again, let a rock is a good opener too, for what it is. [00:26:54] Speaker A: Yeah. Frank, are you ready with thumbnailrics? [00:26:57] Speaker C: No, I don't even know how to read them shits. Hold on. [00:26:59] Speaker A: Well, Steve's not here. You got your job back. [00:27:01] Speaker C: Well, how about. [00:27:02] Speaker B: Nobody told me that, Frank? [00:27:10] Speaker C: All right, I. Wait a minute. What's it. Hold on. Let me raise, frankly. [00:27:17] Speaker B: Is it your or your. [00:27:19] Speaker C: Come on. Oh, here we go. 2000 years later. Oh, it's not. Lay your hands on me, God damn it. Hold on. Here we go. I found it. All right, relax. [00:27:36] Speaker A: Wait, wait, wait, hold on, wait, hold on, hold on, hold on. [00:27:38] Speaker B: Let's get another one for you, friend. [00:27:39] Speaker C: Much, much later. Here we go. Um, you, you got a nasty reputation. We're in a sticky situation. It's down to me and you. So tell me, is it true? They say that. They say there ain't nobody better. Well, now that we're together, show me what you can do. You're under the gun. Out on the run, gonna set the night on fire. Out on the run, under the gun. Playing to win. When you want to let it go, raise your hands. When you want to let a feeling show. Raise your hands. From New York to Chicago, raise your hands. From New Jersey to Tokyo, raise your hands. There you go. [00:28:30] Speaker A: I always like when they use the cities. I like cities and songs. [00:28:33] Speaker C: Me, too. [00:28:35] Speaker B: Yeah, I do. [00:28:36] Speaker A: Yeah. I don't really hate. I can see, though, that definitely the lyrical content and stuff is definitely more 7800 Fahrenheit bon Jovi than what it ends up being. But again, I don't hate this song. I like playing the song. Like I said, it does remind me of the Van Halen song, actually. It's the same exact notes at the beginning. Oh, it's the same, yeah, it's just. It's just not. It's not as swingy and not as good, but, yeah, I. Again, for me, I think it's a good opening track. I think. I think you could switch it with number eight. I mean, it's very. It could. You could do that. Yeah, but. But, yeah, I know, I know this is not your thing, so. But I like it. Don't skip it, Sabina. Let it go. Next time comes on. [00:29:17] Speaker B: Well, I'm not skipping it now. I didn't take my headphones out. [00:29:26] Speaker A: All right, let's continue. Here we go. [00:29:41] Speaker D: But I am looking for surrender. I raise a flag if you remember. It's up to you. You're gonna set the mountain shake to Chicago. From the desert to Tokyo. [00:30:41] Speaker A: And I'm always a fan of the yelling before the solo. That's good, too. [00:30:46] Speaker C: I like that. Yeah, that was a thing for a while, too. [00:30:49] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, it's been a thing for a long time. Like, the seventies used to have all time, the seventies and stuff, so it's good name. [00:30:56] Speaker B: Like CC. Like, Brett Michaels calls out CC in, like, almost every song. [00:31:00] Speaker A: I never know if he's actually called his name out. It's a good question. [00:31:08] Speaker B: Yeah. Hey, you work for me. Play a solo now. [00:31:12] Speaker C: Play it now. You. [00:31:16] Speaker A: All right, Frank, do your. Do your next set. [00:31:18] Speaker C: Oh, so here we go. I. I've been out on the front line where you go down. If you waste time, they'll walk all over you. But I I ain't here looking for surrender I'll raise the flag if you'll defend her? It's up to you. You're under the gun out on the run gonna set the night on fire? Out on the run under the gun playing to win? When you want to let it go raise your hands? When you want to let a feeling show raise your hands? From New York to Chicago raise your hands? From New Jersey to Tokyo raise your hands? Raise your hands. All right, let's go. [00:31:58] Speaker A: Could be worse. [00:31:59] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. It could be social disease. [00:32:02] Speaker C: Oh, my God. [00:32:03] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:32:03] Speaker C: That's one of my least favorite, I think. [00:32:07] Speaker A: Yeah, this is definitely better than social disease. [00:32:09] Speaker B: Yeah. I'm gonna have to ask you what I gave that, because that's what I'm gonna base this off of. [00:32:12] Speaker A: Okay. All right, let's. Let's don't back it up. Let's do so solo. Here we go. Oh, I do like that solo. I think it's very composed. Very well composed. Perfect for the song he's doing. He's doing the pre resique, eighties guitar tricks that have to get done. This one. Like this. So, yeah, I think it's good. Again, I don't. There's very little that he plays like that I don't like, generally. Like I said, I think he's very underrated when it came, even though the band was gigantic. I think sometimes. I think sometimes, even though he was on Guitar magazine stuff, I don't. I don't think everyone's really taken him as seriously as they could have because of the band he's in, you know, I mean, so. But I always appreciate his guitar playing, generally. [00:33:30] Speaker B: Didn't this paul say that Richie sandboard was his favorite guitar player at one point? [00:33:33] Speaker A: I think so. [00:33:34] Speaker B: I think he did say that. [00:33:36] Speaker A: Yeah, no, I do. I do like. We do like what he plays. So, usually he plays all the right stuff in all the right places. There's very few times I ever can say that he doesn't play the right thing, so. Which is not an easy thing to do. It's a little hard to always be playing the right thing all the time. So what did you think of it? Did you like it? [00:33:58] Speaker B: I think it's perfect for the song. Absolutely. I mean, again, I think the protection on the song is very good as well. [00:34:06] Speaker A: Yeah. Now, this whole records produce pretty good, so. [00:34:08] Speaker B: It is, yeah, absolutely. [00:34:10] Speaker A: Frankie. Frankie, what did you think of it? Do you like it? [00:34:13] Speaker C: I do. You know, every time I hear the song, it reminds me of the scene in spaceballs when Eagle five flies in this is the song playing the Flying Winnebago. Neither one of you seen spaceballs? Are you serious? [00:34:27] Speaker A: Of course I've seen spaceballs. Jesus. [00:34:29] Speaker C: Yeah, this is the song. There's a song that they play when they come in. Eagle five. They're flying Winnebago. David's got to go and google the scene there. [00:34:40] Speaker B: Yeah. I've never seen that movie, believe it or not. [00:34:44] Speaker A: Really? [00:34:47] Speaker B: I know, I know. And. But listen, because I. Listen, I like Mel Brooks, so this is not one of those things like, oh, I don't want to watch it. It just, you know, when you just haven't seen something or you haven't listened, like, we had the conversation already with Velvet revolver. Right. It has nothing to do with them as a band or whatever. Just, I've never really listened to them. [00:35:08] Speaker A: You're missing out on that too. [00:35:09] Speaker B: I know. Hopefully they come up because this is a perfect forum. But I watch faceballs. I mean, obviously, I mean, like I said, I do like Mel Brooks. So it just, you know, you just haven't gotten to a movie. [00:35:21] Speaker A: You're missing some of the best thing ever in comedy movies. Well, he's, I mean, he's gonna be hitting himself in the head saying, I can't believe I'd waited this long to watch this. [00:35:33] Speaker C: So one of my friends made a, just a real quick off topic here. One of my friends made a, he's a graphic artist that he made, like, this movie poster for spaceballs two. And it was so well done. He did the way he just did it. I think it was. I think the title was spaceballs two, the search for more money kind of a thing. And it was so well done that it went viral and. Yeah, and he. Someone who was involved with the movie was asked, it was like, is this legitimate? Because it was that good of a movie poster that he created. [00:36:06] Speaker B: So I've heard rumors, though, of a part two. So, I mean, I. [00:36:10] Speaker C: Is it that? Is it that? Or is it history of the world, part three or something? [00:36:14] Speaker B: Well, history. History of the world. I think they did something on tv, right? [00:36:18] Speaker C: Was that it? Mark was a very. [00:36:21] Speaker A: I don't remember. I. That was a great movie too. [00:36:24] Speaker B: That is a great movie. [00:36:25] Speaker C: All right, let's get back to. [00:36:26] Speaker A: All right, let's continue. [00:37:20] Speaker B: Raise your hands. [00:37:22] Speaker A: Raise your hands. [00:37:25] Speaker B: I like the, the New Jersey reference there. [00:37:27] Speaker C: Yeah. I like, I like the random cities being called at the end there. [00:37:31] Speaker B: Well, I mean, you know, say or film. New Jersey is obviously a mecca of, you know, like London. And he never mentions Italy. I don't think he ever really talks about because we were always like, yeah, he's italian. [00:37:46] Speaker A: Woo. Yeah, he doesn't really mention that too much. [00:37:51] Speaker B: I don't think so. I mean, that I really pay attention, but. [00:37:55] Speaker A: All right, Sam. Well, no, actually, Frank, go first. We'll hold Savino to the end. [00:38:00] Speaker B: Yeah, hold me last. Cause I wanna know what I gave the other one. Okay, I'm curious. [00:38:07] Speaker C: I'll be honest, I'm surprised this song wasn't a bigger hit than what it was. It's one of those really fun party kind of songs. And, you know, again, just one of my. It's just really fun to listen to. Um, Mark, you know, you say you enjoy playing it, so I could definitely see that. As far as lyrics, I mean, I'm gonna give lyrics probably a six. The music, I like the music a lot, so I'm gonna give that a seven. And I'm gonna give the production an eight. I think the production is really, really good here in this one. Mark. [00:38:45] Speaker A: What, did you get the lyrics again? Six or seven lyrics? Yeah, I think I'm gonna do the same exact thing. Me and Frank on the same page. It's fun to play, it's fun to listen to. I don't hate as much. Savino hates it, so hate it. [00:39:03] Speaker B: You know what I mean? [00:39:04] Speaker A: If way you skip it, so skip it. You can't like it that much. So, yeah, the lyrics or whatever. I mean, you know, it's a fun song. I think it's a good side opener. I like his solo. I like the riff. I think it's fun. It's a fun song. So I'm gonna give it six, seven, eight. Production's really good. So I think it's produced. And I agree with Frank, but I don't even think it was ever. It was never a single. [00:39:28] Speaker B: I was gonna ask if it was a single. [00:39:30] Speaker C: No, it was not a single. It was never a single. Never single. And it's surprising because I think it's good. Great way. Definitely great way to start the opener. Side Bjorndev. [00:39:42] Speaker A: Yeah, 100%. All right, sab, so you gave let it rock? [00:39:47] Speaker B: No, no. Social disease. [00:39:48] Speaker A: Oh. [00:39:49] Speaker B: So let's do letter rock. [00:39:52] Speaker A: 557. And then social disease. You gave three, four, seven. [00:39:57] Speaker B: That high, huh? [00:39:59] Speaker A: Oh, Jesus. [00:40:00] Speaker B: No. Yeah. I mean, to me, this is on par with letter rock. I don't think it's as bad as social disease, you know, I mean, is it a fun song? Yeah, I'll say five on the lyrics, I'll say six on the music. And my production is really good. So I'll say seven. So, I mean, again, just not one of my go tos with this record. It's just a little bit more generic sounding to me. And again, it's not bad. I mean, it's not a bad song, but just, you know, just me personally, not one of my favorites. [00:40:42] Speaker A: It's okay, Sabina. It's fine. [00:40:44] Speaker B: Thank you. [00:40:47] Speaker A: It's okay. Don't worry. All right, so here, the next one is without love. I think I remember the song. I like the song, too. [00:40:56] Speaker B: So this could be my favorite song. [00:40:58] Speaker A: On this albumen oh, really? [00:41:01] Speaker B: There's a reason. The reason being kind of is I've never actually had this album, believe it or not. And I think I borrowed the cassette from somebody. Could have been. I don't know if you had it on cassette, mark or Nick. I know who I borrowed it from and probably never give it back because I think I still have it, and. But I didn't know this song. You know what I mean? It wasn't a hit. It wasn't. I don't know if it was released, but it comes to this, and the music really put me in that era. Right. And it kind of spoke to me, not necessarily the lyrics. It's more about the music. So I always found it very catchy and of the time and kind of nostalgic of the time, so. But again, this is another song I really. It's been a long time since I've heard this one, because, again, it's not played on the radio or anything, so unless you really go out and look for it, you're not gonna hear it. [00:41:57] Speaker A: No, they're always gonna play that, the hits from this thing, so. Yeah, makes sense. Okay, here we go. Without love. Yeah. This kind of is going into the style of New Jersey, too, I think, of some of the upbeat stuff in New Jersey, you know, I mean, mid tempo stuff. [00:42:32] Speaker B: Yeah. I mean, it's. Again, I, um. It puts me in that era, you know, I think, again, there's just this. Even then, you know, when, you know, when you hear a song in that's new and you ever say to yourself, you know what? This is a song that I'm gonna hear years later, and it's gonna put me back at this time, just like everybody wants to rule the world. To me, that song made such an impact, especially, like, the musical. Like, even now, like, my son loves that song, plays it all. It's one song that always puts me back. And I put myself back in the Bronx, you know, looking out the window in the summer, whatever the hell. Like, certain songs, I think when you hear. You know that when you hear them again, they're gonna specifically put you in that time. So I remember hearing this song, and it just kind of reminds me of, you know, being a teenage kid and, you know, hormones and things and. [00:43:26] Speaker C: You know what I mean? [00:43:27] Speaker B: Growing up and girls and whatever. And music and playing music and whatever. So I. Even then, I'm like, this is probably gonna. When I hear it, it's gonna be like, oh, I remember those days kind of stuff. So. And even now, listening to the riff, it puts me back to those days. [00:43:44] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. It's great. What do you think, Frank? [00:43:48] Speaker C: Um, I don't remember this one, actually. I don't remember it, but, uh. So gonna have to listen to a little bit more. [00:43:57] Speaker A: Okay. Get. Get those words ready. Here we go. [00:44:00] Speaker C: I will. [00:44:02] Speaker D: She wasn't young but still a child invaded my she goes to me I passed the high lady of the night looked in my eyes and said I've been through some shame yeah but one thing always stays the same without love there's nothing without ever. [00:44:47] Speaker A: You remember in that, Frank? [00:44:49] Speaker B: Yeah, I remember the song, like, note for note. And now they start doing some cool stuff with the background vocals and the solo is really good. This song is probably not get highly. As highly rated as some of the other stuff, but you know what I mean? That's not the point of it. It's gonna be one of those things. I think so. And plus, it's kind of a deep cut, right? Like, Frank even. Like, frank is like, I don't. I don't really remember this song because it wasn't a hit. So it's also nice. Even the last song on this album is one of my favorites, so. Frank, lyrics. [00:45:26] Speaker C: She wasn't young she wasn't young but she's still a child there was innocence in her painted smile she called to me as I passed her by lady of the night looked me in my eye she said I've been through some changes but one thing always stays the same without love there's nothing without love and nothing else can get you through the night nothing else feels right without love oh oh. [00:45:58] Speaker A: You know, I didn't realize it was about a prostitute. [00:46:02] Speaker B: Yeah, that's what it sounds like. Right? Kind of like somebody he knew, right? [00:46:06] Speaker A: Yeah, I think. [00:46:08] Speaker B: Oh, maybe. Yeah, no, not. You know what? Not necessarily. Never mind. Yeah. [00:46:12] Speaker A: Yeah. It's good, though. I've always liked this song. I like the guitar playing. It's like those harmonic things with squeal things. The whole song? Yeah, it's pretty good. Like I said, I. I'm a big fan of him. All right, let's continue. Frank, do you remember this now or you don't remember this at all? [00:46:26] Speaker C: No. No, I do not. There's gonna be, like, sad said one of those deep cuts. [00:46:29] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. A good deep cut, though. Very good. All right, here we go. [00:46:46] Speaker D: And no one know he lost his love. You still haven't forgiven himself I've been through some changes but one thing always staying the same without love there's nothing without love and nothing nothing else can get you tonight without love and nothing without love. [00:47:36] Speaker A: Before we get to the solo. Yeah. I've always liked this song. [00:47:39] Speaker B: Hello. [00:47:40] Speaker A: Yeah. Even though it's a. Even though it's a deep cut, I always like this. Frank, lyrics, please. [00:47:49] Speaker C: Absolutely. I saw a man down a lonely street a broke man who looked like me and no one knows the pain that he's been living he lost his love and still has hasn't forgiven he said I've been through some changes but one thing always stays the same without love there's nothing without love and nothing else can get you through the night nothing else feels right without love there's nothing without love nothing else but love can burn as bright and nothing would mean nothing without love oh. [00:48:45] Speaker A: Again, another good solo by him. Short, but the song perfectly. Again, perfect. Big, big fan. [00:48:53] Speaker B: Yep. I always remember the solo note by note. There's a cool little bass thing at the end that I didn't really. [00:48:58] Speaker A: Which we are assuming is Hugh McDonald. Right. And not Abigail Sledge. [00:49:02] Speaker B: I think so, at this point. Yeah. I don't think we're giving Alec any. Any credit. [00:49:07] Speaker A: It sucks, unfortunately, but it is what it is. What you think. Frank, did you like the solo? [00:49:12] Speaker C: I do. I do. Again, it's just the piece just fits the song perfectly. Doesn't try to overdo it. Doesn't try to go crazy or anything. It's just. It's just played perfectly. [00:49:22] Speaker A: Yep. [00:49:22] Speaker B: Catching, melodic. [00:49:24] Speaker A: Right, right for the song. [00:49:25] Speaker B: Yep. [00:49:26] Speaker A: All right, let's continue. Here we go. [00:49:35] Speaker D: I was afraid I won't be afraid of nothing else can get you tonight nothing else be right without love and nothing else nothing will be nothing without love there's nothing without love and nothing without love nothing without love. [00:50:31] Speaker B: Yeah. I mean, imagine, like, going into this and you know the hits already, right? Because I think that's kind of what it was. So you're like, all right, let me play the second side. And this song comes on. You've never heard it before, and I'm like, oh, shit, this is cool. It's, like, catchy. It's melodic. I like this song. [00:50:48] Speaker A: Well, yes. Songs like this could kind of get overshadowed by the. By the big stuff. I think. I think that's a possibility that could happen, you know? So I don't know if it was. [00:50:59] Speaker B: Released, but I think this could have been a hit, too. [00:51:01] Speaker A: Oh, 100%. Yeah, I don't think it was released. [00:51:03] Speaker B: Yeah. Who knows? Maybe. Maybe they consider it filler, but I guess. [00:51:08] Speaker A: But this is a solid album all the way through, generally. I mean, you know, this. You may not like certain songs here and there, but, you know. [00:51:14] Speaker B: Yeah, but, I mean, I even. I would admit, whatever. I mean, even on New Jersey, right, there was stuff that I. I'm not a big fan of. Lay your hands on me or that summer 99 in the shade. But, I mean, overall, as a. As what it is, I mean, it stands out for a reason, right? There's good melodies. There's good hooks. So whether or not you like the genre, if you kind of understand, if you're listening to it as a piece of that history, you have to say to yourself, like, okay, yeah, I understand why this sold. What did it sell? [00:51:46] Speaker A: 30 million, something like that? Yeah. Worldwide, I think. 15. [00:51:52] Speaker B: Yeah. I mean. [00:51:53] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:51:54] Speaker B: I mean, there's a reason. [00:51:59] Speaker A: Yeah. No, it was a. It's a great record. And like Frank said, this kind of, like this pushed it more into the mainstream than it already was. I think, um. I think, uh, quite right. And sin. Twisted sister opened the door, and then they knocked the door down with this. [00:52:14] Speaker B: Yeah. That's a big. [00:52:16] Speaker A: Yeah. They were the biggest band in the world. So what year is it? That point? [00:52:23] Speaker B: 80. 86, right? [00:52:25] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:52:26] Speaker B: And then my boys from Ireland came in. In 87. [00:52:30] Speaker A: That's right. [00:52:31] Speaker B: The Joshua Tree. [00:52:33] Speaker A: Joshua Tree, yeah. But you know, the good thing about, like, the eighties and the nineties, there was always room for all the music and nothing really got. [00:52:40] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. [00:52:44] Speaker A: Because Bonjour was at the top of the heap. It didn't really matter. Right. Don't you agree? [00:52:51] Speaker B: Yeah. There's more coexistence. [00:52:54] Speaker A: Yep. We can have whole bunches of different stuff. [00:52:56] Speaker C: Well, back then, I think everybody was more in their lane. You know, there were really, really a lot of great bands. No one really got in way of each other, so. Great times. [00:53:04] Speaker A: All right, Sabina, why don't you go first? Is this your favorite song? Maybe. [00:53:08] Speaker B: So I'm gonna say six on the lyrics. You know, they're okay. I mean, again, he's painting a little bit of a story. I'm gonna say a seven on the music. Trying to think if I'm gonna give it a seven or an eight. Fuck it, I'll give it an eight. I mean, production is strong, without a doubt. And I think Bruce Fairburn does a better job here in 86 than he did on flesh and blood in the nineties. And, I mean, you can say, well, it's a different band, but, I mean, you know, we all agree there's some really good songs on there. So who knows? Maybe was what was recorded, what was done. I don't know. The. But not that the recording was bad, the production was bad on there, but there were a couple of times where I said, well, you know, this sounds emptier than what I thought it was, but I don't really think Eddie's song sounds empty here. So, Frank. [00:53:55] Speaker C: Yeah. For deep cut, I gotta tell you, I liked it. And I think Mark brought up a good point that if it wasn't a song surrounded by so many hits, it would have had its own legs to stand on. But. But it just simply had. It just had too much competition on this album. And so it just, I guess just one of those things that got lost in the sauce. But it's nice. I liked it. I'm going to go ahead and give the lyrics a six again. Everyone knows I love a good song that tells a good story, but this one seems to be a little bit on the thin side of the storytelling, but still very good. The music. I'm gonna give that a seven. Production, gonna give it eight. I like the production on this one. I really do. I think it's. Did a great job here overall, Mark. [00:54:43] Speaker A: Yeah, I'm gonna echo mostly. I'm gonna give this a seven on the lyrics, though, because I think it's better than raise your hand. So if I give that a six, I have to give this seven. I can't leave them on the same level because I think the lyrics are better. Yeah. Music. Seven. I like his solo. I like everything everyone's playing. They're doing a great job. And production yet. Eight. Because, you know, this. This album is very well produced. You have no problem hearing everything. I don't think we've had a. I don't think we've had much to complain about. I think it's been sevens and eight. Some nines. [00:55:15] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:55:16] Speaker A: And obviously the obligatory ten from Frank. [00:55:19] Speaker C: Yes. I mean, that song. Come on. It came at the right song. [00:55:24] Speaker A: Yes. You were right. I changed my thing because of you. I changed my. My voting because of that. So, um. Yeah, so I think, uh, set, would I say? Seven, seven, eight. Yeah. I mean, all the songs. This is gonna be a long playlist. I'm almost every song except for maybe two songs, which we probably know because Savino downvoted them so much. [00:55:43] Speaker B: Hey, Steve helped me out on that one too, though. Come on. Steve helped me out on social disease, though. [00:55:48] Speaker A: Um, yeah, he did help you out. [00:55:50] Speaker B: Yeah. Drag that fucker down. [00:55:53] Speaker A: So the next song is I die for you. This is another mid tempo kind of thing. [00:55:57] Speaker B: It's a good one too. [00:55:59] Speaker A: This could have been an opener too, I think. [00:56:01] Speaker B: Mm hmm. [00:56:02] Speaker A: A lot of keyboard on this too. [00:56:03] Speaker B: Yeah. A little reminiscent of kind of the Runway, the little string that then kind of thing. Right. It's a good song too. [00:56:10] Speaker A: Frank, do you remember this one, or is this another deep cut you have to listen to before you remember? [00:56:13] Speaker C: It's gonna be another. I think this is one of those songs. Once you start playing it, I'll hear. I'll know. [00:56:18] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, you 100%, but, yeah, it's just one. If you haven't heard in a long time, you're like, what? [00:56:22] Speaker C: Yeah, I haven't heard in a while. Yeah. [00:56:24] Speaker A: All right, so here we go. Yeah, that's definitely a very. A little bit of runaway. Runaway ish on the keyboard side, but I like that little bomb. Bomb. That's a fun thing to play too. Yeah, I like it. Little throwback. Yeah, it's good. [00:57:07] Speaker B: Yeah, it's a good song. [00:57:08] Speaker A: They're keeping it interesting, so. And this is definitely, like you said, this could have been an opener, I think, too. [00:57:14] Speaker B: Mm hmm. Yeah, it's strong. It's, I think. [00:57:16] Speaker A: Raise your hand. Still a better opener. [00:57:17] Speaker B: I mean, if I had a pick, I'd go with that. Yeah, I'd probably go with that one, honestly. [00:57:21] Speaker A: It's a little more upbeat, so. All right, let's continue. Here we go. [00:57:42] Speaker D: I might not say I'm sorry? Yeah, I talked to sometimes? And I might forget? We all got for me to give? With no regret? Into the fire we cry? I die for you? I cry for you? I do anything? I lie for you? You know it's true, baby? I die for you? I die for you? I cry for you? Nothing can't rise down to me and you, you know? [00:58:40] Speaker B: So this is kind of like the bridge of. Right. Born to be my baby. [00:58:44] Speaker C: Mm hmm. Yep. [00:58:47] Speaker B: They're definitely similar. I mean, I don't think I remembered how similar they are. [00:58:52] Speaker C: Yeah, I hear. I hear all their other songs in this song. [00:58:57] Speaker B: Yeah. I mean, jovi song. Yeah. Boy, I think this is a strong song. I've always liked this song. I mean, the lyrics are whatever, you know, I die, cry, but I kind of think, like, almost born to me, my babies like this song, but perfected. Like, not that there's anything really. You know what I mean? I just think, like, this to the next level kind of thing. Again, it's not a song that you hear. You know what I mean? It's not a massive whatever, but, you know, when you've heard all the stuff on the first side, especially over and over and over, and you kind of come to this side and you got. Without love, you got this. You got the last song, which is another one of my favorites. It's. It's that. I mean, it's good to know that there's stuff like this that doesn't get played on the radio, per se, but you can still listen to what I think. They're pretty strong songs. [00:59:48] Speaker A: I always thought I. This song was like a sister song to, um, which we call it. What am I gonna say? Uh, to living on a prayer a little bit kind of same sentiment, sort of, kind of in the lyrics. [01:00:03] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, the struggling. The struggling couple. Kind of. [01:00:07] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:00:08] Speaker B: The pre chorus has always been my favorite in this song, which I forgot. It's been a while again, it's been a while since I've heard this one. But that, to me, was always this kind of standout in a. Well, Frank's gonna read the lyrics, but the part before the chorus was always kind of like my favorite part of this song. [01:00:23] Speaker A: Yeah, Frank read the lyrics. [01:00:25] Speaker C: All right. So if you could see inside my heart then you will understand I would never mean to hurt you, baby, I'm not that kind of man I might not say I'm sorry yeah. I might not talk tough sometimes and I might forget the little things or keep you hanging on the line in the world that don't know Romeo and Juliet Boyd meets girls and promises we can't forget. We are cast from Eden's gate with no regrets into the fire we cry I would die for you I would cry for you I would do anything I would lie for you you know it's true, baby I would die for you I would die for you I would cry for you if it came right down to me and you. You know, you know it's true, baby I would die for you. [01:01:13] Speaker A: I didn't know that Eden part. Read that Eden lyric again. I didn't even know that's what he said. [01:01:17] Speaker C: Yeah. What did you think he said, I don't remember. [01:01:20] Speaker A: Read the lyric again. I'll tell you what. What I thought he said. I think. [01:01:23] Speaker C: In a world that's. In a world that don't know Romeo and Juliet, boy meets girl and promises we can't forget, we are cast from Eden's gate with no regrets. Into the fire we go, we cry. Eden's kid. Wow. That's interesting. What do you think that means, Mark? [01:01:42] Speaker A: I don't know. I have no idea what I thought he said, but it was definitely wasn't that. It's just like, you know, 40 years later, like. Oh, that's what he says. [01:01:50] Speaker C: Well, Castro gotta look that up. Is it like Eden? [01:01:55] Speaker B: Yeah. Well, I think kind of like Adam and Eve, right? Kind of being cast out of the garden, out of the gate. [01:02:02] Speaker C: Well, yeah, that's what I'm saying. [01:02:04] Speaker B: You know, like he did bunker. [01:02:10] Speaker A: Yeah. I don't know what I thought, but. But it definitely wasn't that. Whatever it was, it had. It wasn't that, though, so I don't know what I was thinking. It was no clue. All right, let's listen. [01:02:21] Speaker B: If we ever get the wall, I will give you the best version of what I thought he said when I was younger. [01:02:27] Speaker C: Oh, Boyden. [01:02:28] Speaker B: If we ever get to, uh, another part. Two. [01:02:33] Speaker C: Right. [01:02:34] Speaker B: That was fun. What I thought that was. [01:02:36] Speaker A: I can just imagine. Here we go. [01:02:55] Speaker D: What if I could see inside you? Baby, I know just who we are? Cause our love is like around us without it we would stop? In a world that don't know. [01:03:18] Speaker C: We. [01:03:18] Speaker D: Are goddesse for me to scare into the fire we cry? I die for you, I cry for you? I do many things? I lie for you? You know it's true, baby, I die for you? I die for you, I cry for you. Everything. [01:03:54] Speaker A: All right? So, Frankie, I want you read those lyrics. [01:03:58] Speaker C: I like it so far. [01:03:59] Speaker B: Strong song. [01:04:01] Speaker C: Mm hmm. Oh, no. I might not be a savior and I'll never be a king? I might not send you roses or buy you diamond rings? But if I could see inside you? Maybe I would know just who we are? Because our love is like a hunger without it we would starve in a world that don't know Romeo and Juliet. Boy meets girls and promises we can't forget? We are cast from Eden's gate with no regrets. Into the fire we cry? I would die for you? I'll cry for you? I'll do anything? I would lie for you? You know it's true, baby, I will die for you? I would die for you? I would cry for you if it comes right down to me and you, you know it's true, baby I would. [01:04:50] Speaker A: Die for you it's a very. It's a very good song. I mean, like. Like I said, it gets overshadowed, but. Yeah, but it's. It's very good. [01:04:58] Speaker B: Listen, this whole side gets overshadowed, right? What's the big hit on this side, other than the ballad? Right? That's really it. [01:05:05] Speaker A: That's it, yeah. [01:05:07] Speaker B: I think, yeah. I mean, between this. I'm not. I've never been a big fan of the ballot either, so I'm preempt just like when we did New Jersey. I mean, so. But, yeah, I mean, these. I mean, to me, these are strong. Like I said, the closer, which I don't know either, but my cousin had a video of them and they made a video for that. Songs like. Oh, I never heard this song. It was a good song. [01:05:34] Speaker A: So, yeah, I mean, I'm sure a lot of people didn't actually, like, listen to this, you know, but if you were. If you were a casual fan, you may never, ever heard this side. [01:05:45] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:05:46] Speaker A: So you don't know the hits, but, yeah, there's some. There's good stuff on the side, and this is a good song. [01:05:50] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:05:51] Speaker A: I'm gonna see. I'm sure the solo is really good in this, too. Again, it's gonna be perfect for. It's gonna be perfect for the. For the song. He's not going to overplay. He's going to do exactly what he needs to do, and it's going to be good. All right, here we go. [01:06:44] Speaker D: Baby, I die for you I die for you I cry for you. [01:07:05] Speaker A: Yeah. So I wanted to listen to that. I didn't want to stop it. Cause I like the way it comes out. But Solo's good, right? [01:07:12] Speaker B: Yeah, I like what Tico's doing there, and he's doing a lot of cool little things on the ride, which I don't think, believe it or not, ever really paid attention to. [01:07:21] Speaker A: See, it's weird when you don't listen things on headphones. Sometimes you don't hear all these little extra things that you hear. [01:07:27] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:07:28] Speaker A: So, yeah, no, I liked a lot. Again, big fan. [01:07:31] Speaker B: I did always find that part kind of funny, though, when he does that spoken thing a little bit. I always did find that kind of funny. The last thing is just very weird, like, the way he says it, it's only for you. I don't know. I forgot what he just said, but he just said it. It's only for you. Yeah, I think that's what he says. [01:07:50] Speaker A: It is. It is very funny. But, you know, I mean, he has a little. He has his little quirky things that he does. [01:07:57] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:07:58] Speaker A: Like everybody, you know, it's just. It's one of those things that you have. You got to be okay with, because he has a little bit of his. He inflicts puts a little bit of that personality kind of thing in there. Like. Yeah, he's not. He's not just a screaming singer, so. [01:08:14] Speaker B: No, no. [01:08:15] Speaker A: Yeah, I'm. I'm very happy. I'm very happy with this so far. [01:08:19] Speaker B: Yeah, it's a good song. [01:08:21] Speaker A: It's good. Frank, you enjoying this? [01:08:24] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, I like it. I don't remember hearing it that much, but really, it definitely is. Um, no, so that's gonna be back to back songs. [01:08:33] Speaker A: Okay, nice. All right, let's. Let's finish this out. [01:08:37] Speaker C: You know what I think it is? I think everyone went from the opening track to this fought next track. You just hit fast forward. I think that's what it was. [01:08:47] Speaker A: Wow. I think a lot of people stopped after the first side. Right. Maybe heard. Maybe heard never say goodbye and just like, yeah, they knew. They knew the hits, but they don't know the whole record. I mean, I'm sure there's a lot of people. I'm not saying we have. [01:09:00] Speaker C: But, I mean, again, the first track here, I mean, I thought that was. I'm very surprised I was in a bigger hit, that first. The first song in this track. [01:09:08] Speaker A: Well, I agree. Yeah. You would think it would have been, right? Mm hmm. [01:09:11] Speaker C: Yeah. I was surprised to read that it was never released and never a really big hit. [01:09:17] Speaker A: Yeah. It's just. It's just one of those things that, you know, there was such big hits on this record that, you know, there. There are great songs that just kind of get overshadowed, because how do you compete with two number ones in a row? You know what I mean? Yeah, it's hard. It's hard to compete with that. I don't know what you're supposed to do. I don't know how you're supposed to do that. But then it's not an easy thing to do. [01:09:40] Speaker B: I mean, I guess if you're competing against yourself, we're doing something right. [01:09:43] Speaker A: 100%. Yeah. [01:09:45] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:09:46] Speaker A: Yep. All right, let's. Let's finish this out. Here we go. [01:10:25] Speaker B: I actually thought this song had a fade out. I forgot actually end it that way, sort of. No, but I thought it faded out of him saying that over and over. I'm actually, one thing I'm surprised is um, that, you know, the. Oh, he does it by himself. I'm surprised he wouldn't have, like, at least Richie back him up or some kind of gang vocals. It sounds a little empty to me, I think. [01:10:52] Speaker A: I don't know if it sounds empty, but, yeah, I think it's an interesting choice to not put a lot of vocal on it. [01:10:58] Speaker B: Yeah. But I don't know. I think me personally, I would have had at least Richard backing. Backing, because it sounds like when he says it's only for you, Richie jumps in there. [01:11:07] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:11:10] Speaker B: I mean, you know, when you do o's and shall Allahs and Baba Bazaar and all that shit, I mean, that shit cries out for vocals, like, more. Me personally, I think, and I think Richie probably would have added a nice little touch to that. [01:11:23] Speaker A: Maybe they maybe decide they do. They've done a lot of that and they didn't want to do it here. [01:11:28] Speaker B: Yeah. I mean, again. Right. I think based on what we've learned, he called the shot. So if he's like, I'm done doing this by myself. But who knows? I mean, maybe there were takes where they had it and they just didn't like the way it sounded. I mean, that could be a possibility. [01:11:44] Speaker A: We don't know all the stories and not liked it. [01:11:47] Speaker B: Yeah, that's possible, too. So. [01:11:49] Speaker A: All right, I guess I'll go first, because I don't, I don't think I've gone first yet. [01:11:52] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:11:53] Speaker A: Right. [01:11:53] Speaker B: So. [01:11:54] Speaker A: I think so. Yeah. I think the lyrics are good. I like this. I'm gonna give it a seven. I think I'm gonna do a seven again on musicianship. I like it solo. It's nice to. To the point, like, he doesn't, he doesn't wank off too much on here. I mean, I think he has more guitar. I think in New Jersey that he does here. I think he's allowed a little more. A bigger leash and production. I'm gonna do eight again, I think. I just think it's. It's a great produced album, and you can't really, you know, you're not really. What am I trying to say? You know, not hear everything. Everything's so clear and so right in your face and mixed very well. So I'm very happy so far. Frank. [01:12:38] Speaker C: Yeah. So, Mark, I'm right there with you almost. The lyrics. Yeah, I'm gonna give that about a six. They're great. Like them. And the music itself, again, Jason boraming. He's just really good here throughout the whole album. I thought. So I'm gonna give that a seven in the, in the production. An eight. I mean, the sound, he's great. I hasn't missed a beat at all. So give that an eight. Sad. [01:13:07] Speaker B: Yeah, I think I'm gonna. I think the lyrics in the other song are better, but there's parts in here that are. I don't think they deserve a five, so I'm gonna say a six and yeah. Seven on the music and innate on the, on the production. I think this was up in Vancouver too, though, right? Probably. I think he did a lot of his stuff up there. Whatever your mountain studio over that was called. [01:13:30] Speaker A: Mm hmm. It's 100% it was done there. [01:13:32] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you can't ask for. Especially for what this. What the songs are, what the music is. I don't think you could ask for better production. [01:13:42] Speaker A: No. [01:13:42] Speaker B: Yes. [01:13:45] Speaker A: And okay, so now we get to this. Another song. Sweet. And like this. This was a obviously a single. Where did it go? Let's see how high it went. Eleven in the us mainstream rock, 28 on the Hot 100. This is probably. This was 1987, so this could be toward the end maybe of this. I don't know when it was released. The other ones were released. Let's see, this is 87. One was wanted released 87 February. And this was released least, what, June. So more than likely. Yeah. So this is the last single. [01:14:23] Speaker B: Yeah. When would the album actually come out? [01:14:25] Speaker A: This album came out on August 18, 1986. Yeah. It's a long time ago, man. So let's. Let's get to it. Here we go. Never say goodbye. [01:15:02] Speaker D: I pass my time with strangers but this battle's my old friend remember when we used to party? Count on the street out in the dark? Remember when we lost the keys and you lost more than that in my back seat believe it. Remember how we used to talk about busting out we'd break their hearts together forever never say goodbye never say goodbye you and me are my old friends hopefully it would never end say goodbye never say goodbye holding on we've got try. [01:16:21] Speaker B: Yeah. I mean, the. The time that the song came out is probably the best era of our lives for it to come out. You know what I mean? The ages that we were. I think some of the things that we kind of were progressing into. Right. So, I mean, listen, I think from a nostalgic point of view, it's a. It's probably a perfect song. [01:16:44] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:16:45] Speaker B: You know, and he tells a story again, it's not like, oh my God, I hate this song. I mean, I like it better than who's the other one, the one on New Jersey. That what that one's called. I forgot what it's called. [01:17:03] Speaker A: Well, listen, I found some interesting stuff about this. It was never released domestically as a single. It was ineligible to chart on the Hot 100. It was released in the UK as a single, but it was never released here as a single, which is weird. That is weird because I could have 100% thought this was a single here. It's very strange. [01:17:24] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:17:24] Speaker C: Wait a minute. [01:17:25] Speaker B: This could have played radios on her. [01:17:28] Speaker A: Yeah. Well, it was on the Hot 100 airplay survey, but it never was ineligible for the Billboard Hot 100. It supposedly was on the mainstream rock chart. But I'm just. I'm confused. I don't know if this is. This is Wikipedia, so who knows? It says it was ineligible. It was never released domestically as commercially available single. I would never. I would never think it wasn't a single because it was everywhere, too, as far as I was concerned. [01:17:50] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:17:51] Speaker A: Do not know. I mean, I like his. I like his guitar playing through the whole thing. He kind of follows. He kind of follows the chorus stuff. Again, really good job by him. He was firing on all cylinders as a guitar player in this and the next record. So. [01:18:05] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:18:06] Speaker A: So, Frank lyrics. [01:18:08] Speaker C: As I sit in this smoky room the night about to end I pass my time with strangers but this bottles my whole new friend remember when we used to park on Butler street? Out in the park? Remember when we lost the keys and you lost more than that in my backseat, baby remember how we used to talk about busting out? We would break their hearts together forever never say goodbye never say goodbye you and me and my old friends hoping it would never end say goodbye never say goodbye holding on we've got to try holding on to never say goodbye. You know, I almost was gonna just go ahead and do this from memory, and I'm glad I didn't because I never knew the lyric was on on Butler street, out in the dark. I thought it was on top of the street in the dark. [01:18:58] Speaker A: I was gonna say. There's a bunch of lines in that first thing that I definitely was wrong about. [01:19:05] Speaker B: I must have heard this song so many times. I could have told you this from memory, too. I remember Butler street. [01:19:10] Speaker C: Oh, really? Huh. Well, we got one wrong. [01:19:14] Speaker B: Yeah. I'm just trying to think if I knew what she lost in the backseat, if I thought it was, like, glasses or keys or something. As opposed to what? [01:19:21] Speaker C: Earring? [01:19:23] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:19:24] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:19:25] Speaker A: Where's my chaps now? [01:19:26] Speaker B: What that is. Yeah, exactly. [01:19:28] Speaker C: She lost her ear. [01:19:29] Speaker B: But, I mean, he's like, all right, so at this time, he's like, 23, 24. I mean, again, you can kind of write a nostalgic song and talk about certain things like sex and stuff like that. Right. And not. It doesn't come across as creepy in this song where we've had other guys who the shit out of it. I mean, I think he does a. He does a good job. [01:19:50] Speaker A: Yeah. And again, story. Right? There's a story in here. [01:19:52] Speaker B: Yeah. I've always thought the lyrics were pretty good to this song. They're very relatable. [01:19:57] Speaker A: It's not social disease. [01:19:58] Speaker B: No, they're very relatable. They're simple. Right. Relatable. [01:20:01] Speaker A: So, again, this could be a sister song to the other two songs. Really, if you think about it, it. [01:20:06] Speaker B: Could be the beginning of it, right? [01:20:07] Speaker A: Yeah, it's a very. There's a. There's a big theme here. All right, let's. Let's back it up a little bit, and let's go in to the next verse. Here we go. [01:20:48] Speaker D: I never let you go forever? Forever? Never sing about never say goodbye. You need my friends open it. Will never say goodbye? Never say goodbye holding on we've gotta try holding on to never say all. [01:21:27] Speaker A: Right, I gotta stop it for solo time. [01:21:29] Speaker B: It's funny. Like, Richie. I was gonna say, like Richie's. It's almost like he's doubling himself, but he's not, because you can hear the difference. But the way their voice is mesh, I mean, they do a very good job at doing the background vocals, and I think we spoke about that, too, in New Jersey. So, you know, it's him. It kind of sounds like John, but it's not him. You can kind of hear that because rich is a little bit higher, but, I mean, the production of it is well done. Well, for putting their voices together. [01:22:01] Speaker A: Yeah, they do a really, really good job at that. [01:22:03] Speaker B: Yes. [01:22:04] Speaker A: I mean, they do a super duper good job about that. I mean, their voices blend so well. And again, I think this is. This is what we said. This is what we said before. This is what he's missing now a little bit. I think I. You know, he's trying to do the best he can with the vocal issues he has, but it's not helping him. That Richard symbol is not there, so, unfortunately, it's. It's a. It's a big piece of what Bon Jovi sounds like. Right. With his voice there. [01:22:29] Speaker B: Mm hmm. [01:22:30] Speaker A: Supposedly does it. There was a version that they recorded with Richie singing the vocals and that, and not John. So that would have been interesting to hear. [01:22:39] Speaker B: Yeah, I can hear him singing it, because, I mean, John definitely goes high on this. [01:22:42] Speaker A: Mm hmm. So before we get into solo time, Frank, why don't you do some lyrics? [01:22:47] Speaker C: Hold on. Remember days of skipping school, racing cars, and being cool with a six pack and the radio? We didn't need no place to go, you know, I remember those days. You just hung out of the park all day. Remember at the prom that night you and me, we had a fight but the bandit played our favorite song? And I held you in my arms so long we danced so close we dance so slow and I swore I'll never let you go together forever never say goodbye never say goodbye you and me and my old friends hoping it will never end say goodbye never say goodbye holding on we've got to try holding on to never say goodbye yeah. [01:23:27] Speaker A: I mean, he does a good job again. It's very. It brings you back to when you were a kid and doing whatever you were doing. Right. So that's why. That's why I think his stuff is very. Is very relatable to lots of people. [01:23:44] Speaker B: Yeah. He kind of writes like the everyman. Right. You can say. [01:23:47] Speaker A: Mm hmm. [01:23:48] Speaker B: It's like, even. Even if you weren't specifically doing those things, you may know somebody who did it, or I. Or somebody who kind of did it that way. Or maybe you did it that way. I mean, I think that's kind of his style. [01:23:59] Speaker A: Yeah. No, and again, this is, this is a bon Jovi this and the next record at the height of what they're gonna do. Right. So everyone gets their time in the limelight, and they. They took advantage of that. Boy, they were the right place at the right time, too. All right, so let's go solo. Here we go. [01:24:22] Speaker D: Holding on to never say. [01:24:56] Speaker A: God damn. Reggie Sambora, always right in the right place at the right time. He's just very good at that. I like that he comes back with the same melody again in the solo, kind of like a different register. It was good. [01:25:06] Speaker C: He's like the Greski guitar playing. He just knows what it be for. [01:25:10] Speaker A: This kind of music. Yeah. I mean, I can't. I don't think you could have much better of a guitar player for this kind of music. And they all had to kind of know that they were all on a. On a. I don't know. What do you want to say? They're all on a. All. They're all, like, doing exactly what needs to be done. So it's. Yeah, it's really super good. [01:25:31] Speaker B: Yeah, it's perfect for the song. It's a little bit down in the mix, too. I always do remember that it's not right. It's a little bit lower in the mixed. I always felt it's almost like, like he's, like, on the other side of the room kind of thing. I was being a little bit lower than the rest of the music for this specific solo. [01:25:50] Speaker A: Yeah, I think. [01:25:52] Speaker B: But I think maybe that's a sentiment, right? You kind of picture them in the, in the smoky room, right. And he's kind of like, maybe John's on one side, you're listening to him, he's on the other side, so you don't hear him as loudly. I always thought that was kind of part of the ambience. [01:26:05] Speaker A: There is a little ambiance. Ambiance going on, but it's a, I mean, for something that wasn't a so, wasn't a released track, like, I'm confused. I'm still a little confused about that. [01:26:17] Speaker B: Yeah. If anybody listens to us and you have anything to say, please let us know. Yeah. [01:26:25] Speaker A: All right, let's, let's continue. Here we go. [01:26:32] Speaker D: Together forever. Never say goodbye never say goodbye you and me and my old friends open it. Say goodbye never say goodbye hold on, we gotta try. Hold on. To never say goodbye. [01:27:52] Speaker B: First say goodbye. [01:27:53] Speaker A: That'S a good song, man. All right, sorry. Well, then you can go first, mister. [01:27:59] Speaker B: I I knew you're gonna make me go first, man. [01:28:01] Speaker A: Oh, I'm definitely making you go first. [01:28:03] Speaker B: There's no more lyrics to talk about. Right? Everything is the same. [01:28:05] Speaker C: Mm hmm. [01:28:06] Speaker B: Um, so I can read it two ways. I'm gonna rate it again. It's, it's just, you know, it's never been one of my favorites, but I don't think it's a bad song by any, you know, by any means. So I'm gonna say 667 based on personal thing. If I probably look at it from, from a song the way it. Of what it represents in that era, I probably give it higher, but from a personal standpoint, and based on the fact that I gave some other things higher, so. But it's, it's not, listen, it's not a bad song. It's incredibly memorable. Never say goodbye can put you in any situation right where you're leaving somebody, you're breaking up with somebody, whatever it is, right. God forbid, even some passing away, it just puts you in. So, I mean, I think he wrote a really, really good song saying, you know what? This is something people gonna be. You can relate to. [01:29:07] Speaker A: So, yeah, mark, so what you do? You did. What did you do? [01:29:14] Speaker B: 667. [01:29:14] Speaker A: 667. Yeah, I'm gonna rate a little bit higher. I'm gonna do seven on the lyrics. I think you're right. It's a very relatable song. People can relate to the lyrics. You could relate to the stuff he's saying in the song, and you can take it a bunch of different ways, which is always the mark of a good song, I think. Musicianship, seven, because, again, Richard Sambora does a great job on this. During the choruses, during the verses, his singing, drumming is good, keyboards good. Everything's good. I don't hear a lot of bass in here. I mean, that doesn't stand out as much, but that may be the testament to just being in the pocket. And production, again, I'm going eight. I think. I think it's really well produced. There's very few songs on here. I mean, I'm trying to look at my scores. I don't think I ever. I don't think I did anything less than a seven, production wise, and lots of eights, so. And a nine, so, yeah, I think it's great. Frank? [01:30:16] Speaker C: Um, I'm gonna give this a triple nine. You know, this is one of those songs that really did kick off the whole power ballad frenzy that we refer back to when we look back at it. Um, I think. Let me see. This came out. When does it come out, Mark? 87. June 87. June 87. White snake came out when probably that fall. Is this love? [01:30:43] Speaker B: Right? [01:30:45] Speaker C: They're just around there. The point is, like, when you think about power ballads, I think this is the song that really kicked off that whole power ballad frenzy that it all almost made it a requirement for you to have one on your album. So the lyrics are great. Very relatable. The music on point. No, you know, everybody's perfect, and the production is just great. So triple nines for me. [01:31:08] Speaker A: That's a very good point. I didn't really. I didn't think about it that way. But you're right, it probably did kick off the whole power ballad thing. I didn't really think about that. [01:31:15] Speaker C: Yeah, I think this was the song. [01:31:17] Speaker B: If it wasn't a single. [01:31:19] Speaker C: Well, technically, it did shit. It did jack shit. No, but I think this is the song that kind of, like, from moving forward. Like, every band's like, ah, shit, we need to have a power ballad. And I think this is the song that did it. [01:31:32] Speaker B: Yeah, but when was every rose? When was that released? Was that 88? Was that 87? [01:31:38] Speaker A: Definitely after this yeah, I always think of that as the power ballad ballad, but really, it probably is. This. [01:31:44] Speaker C: This is. This is what kicked off that frenzy. [01:31:47] Speaker B: I don't know, though, man. Because there's other stuff out there, too, though. I mean, is this love is 87? I'm trying to get a date, but it just keeps saying 87. 87. I mean, I like that song better, but a lot of it has to do with John Sykes. I mean, I think he create. And again, not to knock Richie Sambora, but John Sykes just creates a moodlet. [01:32:08] Speaker A: Oh, no, he was really good on that record. [01:32:10] Speaker B: Yeah, that. Oh, they're all good on that record. I mean, Andy Dunbar, what's his name for how to play base on that, because, I mean, obviously no one on that album was actually in the right. When the videos came out was a completely different band because he fired everybody. [01:32:25] Speaker A: Yeah. Ruby Sarzo was on the Vinda van. Yeah. [01:32:28] Speaker B: Yeah. V Dr. Vandenberg in the thing. [01:32:31] Speaker A: Well, Vandenberg played some stuff on the record. [01:32:34] Speaker B: Did he? [01:32:34] Speaker A: Yeah. Here I go again. Solo is him. So he's the only guy really played anything. Everyone else is basically. Nope. So, yeah. Anyway. But, yeah, I mean. I mean, you could say, you know, semantics about who's the first, who's the best, who's whatever. I kind of think that this is definitely one of the. One of the bounds that. One of the bounds that kicked off the whole paddle about thing. [01:32:54] Speaker C: So love bites came out much later on. [01:32:57] Speaker A: Yeah, I was 88. [01:32:58] Speaker C: I think that came out a little bit later on. [01:33:02] Speaker A: Frank. Frank might be right. Even if it's not the first, it's close enough is. And consider it wasn't a single. It's even. It's even crazier. So, anyway. All right, well, here's the last song on the record, which I know why Sabina likes this. This is a very Bruce Springsteen II kind of wannabe song. [01:33:20] Speaker B: Yeah, it's just a good song. It's just, you know, it's upbeat. I mean, and I mean, again, he uses, like, character names and stuff like that. That. So it's very catchy. [01:33:30] Speaker C: Um, you know what? [01:33:32] Speaker A: Hold on. [01:33:33] Speaker C: I may have correct. I may need to correct myself. Um, I think it may be home sweet home. [01:33:40] Speaker A: Well, that's 85. Yeah. It could be home sweet home. [01:33:44] Speaker C: It could be home sweet home, but. [01:33:46] Speaker A: But home sweet home, though, is a little more upbeat than this, though. Much faster song. [01:33:51] Speaker C: Yeah, true, true. [01:33:52] Speaker A: It doesn't stay as. It doesn't stay this kind of tempo all the way through. So. Yes, maybe I. Home sweet home is where the palate ballad started, but. But this kind of ballad, meaning this speed ballad. [01:34:03] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:34:03] Speaker A: I don't know. This is what did it bigger before this, but I agree to that. That home stream home definitely was a power battle just in a different. Just different tempo. [01:34:12] Speaker C: Different. Different tempo. But, yeah, I think this may have kicked off that whole makeup power ballet, so. [01:34:20] Speaker A: Oh, it wasn't, uh. It wasn't a motley cruise song for you. [01:34:24] Speaker C: All I need. I knew you were gonna bring that. [01:34:26] Speaker B: Wizard was actually 88. [01:34:28] Speaker C: What was. [01:34:31] Speaker A: What was 88? [01:34:33] Speaker B: Poison was 88. [01:34:35] Speaker A: Yeah, that's right. [01:34:35] Speaker B: Poison. [01:34:36] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:34:37] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:34:37] Speaker C: 88. [01:34:37] Speaker B: Yeah, no, I thought it was 80. [01:34:39] Speaker C: Leopard came up. [01:34:40] Speaker B: Sorry. [01:34:40] Speaker C: Yeah, poison came about 88. Yeah. [01:34:43] Speaker A: So it was 88. All right, well, here we go. This is a wild in the streets. [01:35:19] Speaker D: Touch the ground while the old man sat there storylines about when I was young like you. [01:35:59] Speaker B: I mean, you can hear it. Sidewalk soldiers even coming up to the next. Like, some of the things are. Seem kind of straight out of some Springsteen songs. I mean, which is fine. So, yeah, I was always. I was kind of dug this song. I thought it was kind of. Kind of catchy. And again, it's what would be considered a deep track, even though I think they did. They made a video for this. I'm pretty sure that's what I saw. That's how I first saw this song, was in a video. I was like, what is this? Oh, it's a good song. [01:36:29] Speaker A: I mean, I don't remember the video for this. I don't remember there was a video for this at all. [01:36:33] Speaker C: I think the video was like their con. Like their tour. [01:36:39] Speaker B: Yeah, I'm pretty sure it was. Yeah, something live. But I just remember Tico Torres doing that. Buh buh buh bum bum bum bum. That thing. [01:36:48] Speaker C: Yeah, I think that's what it was. It was just, like, clips from their tour. Kind of like, you know, during the eighties when they had all of the official concert tours, but it wasn't really the concert, it was just the band traveling and in between sets and the hotel room of the tour bus on the plane ride. I think that's what that was. [01:37:10] Speaker B: Yeah, dude, that could be. I mean, that's what I remember. You know what I mean? Like, it was live stuff, but it wasn't live. You know what I mean? The song wasn't live. [01:37:18] Speaker C: No, it was just. Just, which was very popular for that time, for that era. Like, a lot of ads released and also for though. I mean, you know, I know it's impossible to think of a world without MTV, but we lived it. So if you want to see a band's favorite video, you had to go and buy a vhs tape and they would have these compilations and in the compilation. So in those, they will have, like, different videos and stuff like that. Motley Crue had them for. I forgot what the name of that video was that they put out. But, you know, they had a girls, girls, girls and all that other stuff. And it was them recording the album and in between tours and stuff, so pretty cool stuff. And I think this video was that. [01:38:03] Speaker B: It was an official video. It was just like that collection kind of thing, like clips and stuff. [01:38:08] Speaker A: So, yeah, the song is very, um. Like I said, it's very spring steenie to me. [01:38:15] Speaker B: Yeah, the keyboard sounding too was. [01:38:17] Speaker A: Yeah. Oh, by the way, before I forget, without love and I die for you is Bon Jovi, Richie Sambora and Desmond child. That's probably why you like both of those songs. There you go. Um, yeah, this is the only song, really, that he wrote by himself on this. Wild in the streets is just him, nobody else. But I like the, like, the chords versus home sambor is playing during the verses. [01:38:43] Speaker B: Mm hmm. [01:38:44] Speaker A: And it's just like. And it's talking about the older guys saying what we used to do when we were your age. That's pretty fun. [01:38:50] Speaker B: Yeah. But again, it's relatable, right? [01:38:53] Speaker A: I mean, how old was he when this came out? [01:38:55] Speaker B: I think he was 23 or 24, depending on. Yeah, because he was born in 62, I think. [01:39:08] Speaker A: Yeah. You support in 62. Yeah. So now I want to know how old was Alec John such during this? He was born at 51. So he was like 30, 34. Right? 34, 35. Wow. He was much older than them. Yeah. That's crazy. Antigua Torres is not. How. When was he born? 53. So he was older too. [01:39:31] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. I was gonna say he looks like he's up there. [01:39:36] Speaker A: Yeah, well, he didn't. I'm. He didn't look that old then. [01:39:40] Speaker B: He was. I thought he was. Looked older, though, then. The rest of them maybe was like. He always had that kind of pompadour looking hair and, you know, he looked. He looks like what's his name? And the Sopranos, that's always reminded me of. He could have played that role. His console area. Well, I can't think of his fucking name now. Little Stephen for Bruce Springsteen's band. [01:40:00] Speaker A: Mm hmm. [01:40:01] Speaker C: Steve Van Zen. Little Stevie says. [01:40:04] Speaker B: Yeah, but what was the name of the guy in the. In the show? [01:40:08] Speaker C: Sylvia. So Soviet. [01:40:11] Speaker B: So. Yeah, exactly. That's what he reminds me of. [01:40:16] Speaker A: I can see that. Uh, all right, Frank, want you to read some lyrics. [01:40:22] Speaker C: Oh, shit. Wait, hold on. I had it up and I just, for whatever reason, blind mind absent mindedly exited out. [01:40:34] Speaker B: You're trying to look at these states of like ballads and stuff, man. I'm trying to narrow this down too. [01:40:39] Speaker C: Here we go. [01:40:40] Speaker A: Wait, wait, don't do it yet. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Here you go. [01:40:45] Speaker C: A few inches later. [01:40:47] Speaker B: A few inches later. [01:40:50] Speaker C: Hey, wait a minute. This is not it. [01:40:54] Speaker B: This is wild. This is wildest. [01:40:57] Speaker C: Trees by the circle jerks. Hold on. [01:40:59] Speaker B: Sorry, I don't think that's the same. [01:41:02] Speaker A: All right, we're holding here, guys. Here's some more for you. 70 years later. [01:41:07] Speaker C: Oh, please. I'm here. All right, got it. Wild industries songs by Bon Jovi. Joey, Joey comes from a sacred part of town where sometimes you talk so tough your feet don't touch the ground and the sidewalk soldiers the midnight blues while the all men reside recite their song, their storylines about when I was young like you they say oh yeah we were cruising to the back beat oh yeah making love in the back seats we were wild, wild in the streets wild in the streets. [01:41:49] Speaker A: Yeah, it's, uh, it's so. Is it. Is it the old guy saying that or Bon Jovi saying that? Them saying that? I confused now. You know what I mean? Is it the old men saying, I think it's time. Is it? Okay, I was a little confused. [01:42:07] Speaker B: I think it's. Yeah, I think it's the younger guys kind of. Okay, but maybe they're kind of like telling it like they were the older guys, you know what I mean? It's kind of like that. The handoff kind of thing. Now we're the ones that are telling the stories about when we were younger, maybe. [01:42:24] Speaker A: Well, well, he's using a name too, which, which kind of links it to the US. All the rest of the songs on the album, right. He starts using, you got Joey, Joey, Joey, Joey. [01:42:34] Speaker B: Tommy Gina. [01:42:35] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:42:37] Speaker C: Pamela Renee, I love you from around the way. [01:42:43] Speaker A: All right, here we go. [01:42:50] Speaker D: Next door. You know what made her daddy crazy? It only made her want him more. But they were looking for trouble. That boy didn't wanna fight. Not tonight. So she headed out through the bathroom. When one of daddy's gonna be alright oh yeah make it love in the back sea wild in the streets wild, wild in the streets we were wild, wild in the streets wild, wild industries. [01:43:45] Speaker A: Rock me, ooh, rock me. [01:43:50] Speaker B: Rock me I'm a dais. [01:43:52] Speaker A: Alright, Frank, you have the words this time? You good? [01:43:54] Speaker C: Yes, it's right here. [01:43:55] Speaker A: Okay. Go ahead. [01:43:56] Speaker C: Remember the boys brigade had a date with a girl next door? You know, it made her daddy crazy. It only made her want him more. They weren't looking for trouble. That boy didn't want to fight. Not tonight. So she headed out through her bathroom window where her daddy didn't know was going to be all right. They said, oh, yeah we're cruising to the back seat oh, yeah making love in the back seats we were wild, wild in the streets wild, wild in the streets we were wild, wild in the streets wild, wild in the streets of. [01:44:32] Speaker A: I think that lyrics are on. [01:44:34] Speaker C: Why you say that? [01:44:35] Speaker A: Because isn't it cruising to the backbeat, making love in the backseat? [01:44:39] Speaker C: Well, maybe. [01:44:40] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:44:41] Speaker C: Hold on. Let's double check. [01:44:43] Speaker B: I think so. [01:44:44] Speaker C: Let me check. Let me look it up. [01:44:46] Speaker A: Yeah, I'm pretty. I'm pretty positive that whatever site that is is wrong. Listen, I fuck up lyrics all the time, and it's not right, but I'm pretty positive that's wrong. [01:44:55] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah, you're right, Mark. [01:44:57] Speaker A: They said, yeah, yeah, once in a while. It has to happen once a while. I never heard all the other lyrics, but that I was like, that doesn't sound right. [01:45:07] Speaker C: Mm hmm. [01:45:09] Speaker A: Cool. I like it. Now, what we're talking about. Gang rumble. It's a rumble. [01:45:14] Speaker C: It's a rumble, right? [01:45:18] Speaker A: Is that what you're talking about? [01:45:19] Speaker B: I assume the jets versus the sharks. [01:45:22] Speaker A: Pretty much. Pretty much. Okay, here we go. Solo. Very basic, like, rock and roll kind of lick stuff. [01:46:02] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:46:03] Speaker A: I'm not too sure I like the tone of his guitar there too much. [01:46:07] Speaker B: It's weird, right? [01:46:08] Speaker A: It's weird, yeah. [01:46:09] Speaker B: I always thought that it's almost fuzzy, right? Kind of, yeah. [01:46:13] Speaker A: But I don't know. [01:46:14] Speaker B: It is. I always remember it sound like. [01:46:16] Speaker A: Yeah, it sounded weird to me, but. But again, I think he did a really good job with. With the solo, though, for what it is. [01:46:24] Speaker B: Yeah, it's fine for this song, right? Because you got kind of like that, um. That honky tonk kind of piano thing going, right? That ding ding ding ding ding ding. [01:46:31] Speaker A: Mm hmm. [01:46:33] Speaker B: So it fits. It's like he comes in with some. Some weird show. [01:46:39] Speaker A: No, 100% fits. Your percent fits. Yeah, it's good. But it is a weird guitar tone, though, for me, but. Okay, let's continue. We're almost done. Here we go. [01:47:09] Speaker D: You don't walk in me for the kids parade. Cause this is my heart down. Wild in the streets wild, wild in the streets wild in the streets wild, wild in the streets yeah, we were wild in the streets wild in the streets wild in the streets wild industries. Wild industries. Oh, wild industries. [01:48:15] Speaker A: So, yeah, I like the way it ended, the whistling and stuff. [01:48:20] Speaker B: So, yeah, I think that's a fun song. Um, honestly, it ends on a high. Considering that New Jersey ends with love for sale, I think this is a better album. Closer, honestly. [01:48:36] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, 100%. As much as I, as much as I like New Jersey, a thousand percent. This is definitely a better ending. So since this is one of your favorite songs, why don't you go? [01:48:44] Speaker B: I don't think I can rate it as high as the other ones. This is weird. So I'm gonna say seven on production. I don't think it's as good as the other ones. It was a little bit tinny to me. So, I mean, just because some of the other stuff that I gave each supers are so strong music, I'm trying to think, you know what I'll say. Six, seven, seven. Yeah, six, seven, seven. Frank, you know, this is one of. [01:49:10] Speaker C: Those songs that, again, I'm surprised it wasn't a bigger hit than what it was. It's a fun song. I think it a great way to end the album. It's a classic eighties song that I think it's coming of age. You can very easily put into any one of those movies during that time featuring one of the Corey's kind of a thing. I'm gonna give it triple seven s across the board. Really liked it a lot. The lyrics are fun, music's fun. Greatly produced. Mark. [01:49:41] Speaker A: Nikki Tiddy baby 777. [01:49:44] Speaker B: I just realized I was the first triple seven. Right? [01:49:47] Speaker A: Yeah. And so mine is gonna be Nikki titty, baby seven, seven, seven. I'm doing, I'm doing sevens across. Yeah. I mean, it's not my favorite on the record, but it's definitely better than love for sale as like the end of the record. So I think it's a much better clothes there, guitar tones, a little wacky in the solo. I don't like it as much. But, you know, what he plays is appropriate for what song is. So, yeah, I mean, he's, I mean, it's a consistent record. You know, there's a couple of little, you know, dips here and there. But I mean, that's why it sold 30 million, because it was that good. [01:50:29] Speaker B: I mean, I guess the comparison of this would be like 99 in the shade, right? [01:50:32] Speaker A: Yeah. I think 99 shades a better song. [01:50:35] Speaker C: Mm hmm. [01:50:36] Speaker A: To me. [01:50:36] Speaker B: Do you? I don't think so. I like this one. I wasn't crazy about that. [01:50:40] Speaker A: So hold on, let's see. [01:50:44] Speaker B: No, watch. I give it. Please. [01:50:46] Speaker A: Let's see what we gave it. [01:50:47] Speaker C: Hold on. [01:50:48] Speaker A: I'm gonna pull it up. Speak. Talk amongst yourselves. I need to go back. Here we go. New Jersey. [01:50:58] Speaker B: Trying to look up these ballots to see. [01:51:00] Speaker A: So, what do you think? So, what do you think? You gave 99 in the shape eight triple sixes. [01:51:07] Speaker B: Six. [01:51:07] Speaker A: Gave it six, six, eight. When you gave this 1677, you liked it better and Frankie gave it six, six, eight. So you liked. You like this one better. Frankie and I like this one better too. Believe it or not. [01:51:23] Speaker B: I was right. But listen, I listen. I do say it all the time, right? Sometimes you give it the score, and in the moment you feel like, oh, it's like this. It's like that. Or sometimes even when you're like, oh, you know, I like the song. Even though the score doesn't reflect it as much as. It's kind of like when you break it up, it's not as strong as the whole. Right. So. But I think that's what it has to do with I like it. [01:51:52] Speaker A: It ended up being the same overall score. Both got seven, like overall. So very similar, actually. Even love for sale, we gave seven, believe it or not. So, you know. [01:52:00] Speaker B: Yeah, well, because I remember I gave it seven because he says Columbo. I remember. That's why I gave it a seven on the lyrics. I remember that specifically. Yeah. So I'm looking up these bells. The first, believe it or not, the first ballad I see that hit really big. Like number three was Carrie. Carrie was number three. So there are other ballads like. Like love it first thing came out in 1984, still loving you. But it didn't hit as big. Like, I remember, too, alone again from Doc. And that was a pretty big power ballot. But that was like, in the sixties theater of pain. It doesn't. It doesn't say where it hit the first time around. Because they said it was. It was rereleased in 91, but yeah, Carrie was number three. Slippery. When honestly, I think was number seven. Those are both in 86. [01:52:51] Speaker C: I really think this is what. I think this is what kicked off the whole power ballad thing. [01:52:57] Speaker A: You could be right. [01:52:58] Speaker C: Because after this. Because after this. Because after this, just think you could pretty much remember every other one. You got love bites. You got. Is this love? You have warrants that came out. Why is. Why is that slipping my mind right now? That big heaven. Heaven. Heaven. Yep. [01:53:21] Speaker B: But I'm saying Carrie, which was in 86, the same year as this, that hit number three. But no, never say goodbye only hit number seven. Not only. But when you compare it, I understand. [01:53:34] Speaker A: It is kind of crazy. [01:53:36] Speaker C: I don't remember. I don't remember Carrie being that big of a hit. [01:53:38] Speaker B: You know what? Maybe we thought it hit like, there was that one song that defined it, but it was kind of like kind of a building thing, I think, because again, Daken was in 84. Tooth and nail and alone again was number. You know, it hit the top 100. So did still loving you? [01:53:58] Speaker C: Was Duncan really that long? [01:54:01] Speaker B: I know, man. I didn't think it was 84, but I guess it. [01:54:03] Speaker C: I didn't think that was 84. [01:54:05] Speaker B: September of 84. [01:54:07] Speaker C: When did dream warrior come out? [01:54:10] Speaker B: That was on back for the attack. That was 87. [01:54:13] Speaker C: Okay. So, yeah. All right. I got worried for a moment. [01:54:19] Speaker B: Well, appetite is 87, right? So do we consider sweet child of mine a ballad? [01:54:26] Speaker C: No, it's not the same. [01:54:28] Speaker A: No, it's not valid. I don't. I mean, I don't consider it a valid. I mean, it has valid escalation things in it, but it's not about hysteria. [01:54:37] Speaker B: Was 87 and pyromania was 83. What was on pyromania? [01:54:43] Speaker A: What was the photograph? [01:54:45] Speaker C: Mm hmm. [01:54:46] Speaker B: Yeah, but I mean, that's what I'm saying, though, is that. Can you consider that? [01:54:49] Speaker C: No, that's not a power. [01:54:51] Speaker B: It's not really. Right. It's kind of like a mid tempo. [01:54:54] Speaker A: Yeah, it's definitely mid tempo. [01:54:56] Speaker B: I mean, high and dry came out in 81. Right. Is bringing on the Harper, which is kind of ballady. Right. [01:55:04] Speaker A: Okay, I can see that. [01:55:05] Speaker B: But I mean, but I don't think people are gonna. I think it was kind of a movement. You know, I think we're all looking for that one song. That kind of. But again, every rose has a story was number one, and these songs weren't number. [01:55:22] Speaker A: No. [01:55:23] Speaker B: So maybe they proved that these are songs could be number one, and that's kind of like how we associated that with that. [01:55:31] Speaker A: Well, yeah, it may not have been the biggest, but maybe it did sort of like Frank said, it did kind of kick things off a little bit. [01:55:38] Speaker B: Well, it was part of what kicked it off for sure that year. 86. But mark two, I mean, all right, like 51, 50 came 86. What do you call it? Right. [01:55:48] Speaker A: Dreams is on there. Yeah. [01:55:51] Speaker C: What was scorpion still loving? When was that released? [01:55:54] Speaker B: That's 84. [01:55:56] Speaker C: Still loving you by Scorpion. [01:55:57] Speaker B: That's what I'm saying. That was, like, in the sixties. So it cracked it. Crap. So that and alone again were in the same year. The first Bon Jovi album was that year. [01:56:08] Speaker C: Fuck is Mario Speedwagon maybe is another one that could think of. [01:56:13] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean, that was massive. I mean, technically speaking, I would put that in the same. Yeah, I would put it in the same league. Why can't this be love? But that's. That's definitely not. I was thinking it was a little bit tempo. [01:56:26] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean. I mean, that's slower, too, but that's 85. I mean, you know, it's all around the same time frame. Yes. [01:56:36] Speaker C: Winger, when was that headed for heartbreak? [01:56:39] Speaker B: Winger was just did it. But 88 was also kicks, right? Don't close your eyes. I mean, La Gonz, ballad of Jane was 88. [01:56:49] Speaker C: Great song. [01:56:50] Speaker B: Yeah. So 1989 was cocked and loaded, which had what? Ballad of Jane, warrant, drfs or heaven without you, Doctor Feelgood, Tesla. [01:57:04] Speaker A: It's all around the same time. I mean, this is just. There was such a mainstream. This is a mainstream record, so that's probably why. But yeah, there was other. There was other songs that were around earlier. Just, you know, what was real, who was really that big? Daken was never. They were never big enough, but that. [01:57:19] Speaker B: Song was big, technically. I mean, you can go back even for. I mean, songs like dream on, right? I mean, of course. [01:57:25] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah. We're just talking about within. Within this kind of stuff. Yeah. So, anyway, good record. I'm glad we got it. It was a good record for 100. Even though Frank would have appreciated. Appreciated a 30th or 40th anniversary album. [01:57:40] Speaker B: I would have. [01:57:41] Speaker C: But. But you know what? This was great. I loved it. [01:57:44] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:57:45] Speaker C: Was great. It's cool. [01:57:46] Speaker B: Picked the two biggest Bon Jovi albums for Bon Jovi. [01:57:49] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:57:50] Speaker B: Was it like, obscure? [01:57:52] Speaker A: No, they did. She did a good job. Well. And then next week, we get to spin again. Woohoo. And then Franken. Frank is gonna either pick a song or he's gonna spin the wheel. One or the other. Forget about it. Frankenhein gonna pick a whole week. You got a whole week. [01:58:06] Speaker C: Pressure. [01:58:08] Speaker A: Pressure. All right. [01:58:10] Speaker C: Hopefully Ozzy releases something from here. [01:58:14] Speaker A: I think he's done, my friend. I know, unfortunately. All right, sav, do your thing. [01:58:23] Speaker B: Yeah. So we are part of the Deep Dive podcast network again. Like I always say, great bunch of guys took us in right away. So check them out if you want more individualized podcasts about bands like Rush, our boys of Rush, Rash, our boys of Judas priests, Judas Priest cast, but Tom Petty, Uriah heaps, Zeppelin, Queen, you name it, it's on there. So check it out. And Mark, where can they find this on the interwebs? [01:58:46] Speaker A: Rock related podcast, calm rock roulette pot on all the social media make sure you put us to auto download on whatever podcast app you have so you get the latest episode when I it comes out. And, yeah, share this out to other people if you like what we do. If you want to put a song in for new bets, go to rock with let podcast.com and shoot us a message, and maybe we'll throw it into our wheel. [01:59:10] Speaker B: You know what? I think if someone suggests something, we should just do it. Show a little love for the fans. [01:59:17] Speaker C: Yeah. Throw it. Throw it into the listening. [01:59:20] Speaker B: Okay. Thank you. Thank you. There you go. [01:59:23] Speaker A: That's up to whoever is the person doing it that week. They can do that. They can do that. If they don't want to do that, they don't have to do that. It's up to them. Whatever they want to do. So Frankie's the next one. So he has control of all this right now. [01:59:39] Speaker C: Well, for everybody who's listening now, I'm just gonna say, just throw in your ideas. Throw in your suggestions. I'm going to the wheel. Go show the fans the love going. [01:59:50] Speaker A: The wheel. Okay. There we go. [01:59:52] Speaker C: Into the wheel next week. So submit all those songs for review. [01:59:58] Speaker B: There you go. Yeah. [02:00:00] Speaker C: There you go. [02:00:02] Speaker A: All right, guys, I guess we will see you next week. Later. [02:00:06] Speaker C: Take care.