Episode 111- Blackberry Smoke - The Whippoorwill - Part 1

[00:00:05] Speaker A: This is our musical reaction, breakdown and commentary analysis of this song. Under fair use, we intend no copyright infringement and this is not a replacement for listening to the artist's music. The content made available on this podcast is for educational and informational purposes only, notwithstanding a copyright owner's rights under the Copyright act. Section 107 of the Copyright act allows limited use of copyrighted material without requirements requiring permission from the rights holders for purposes such as education, criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research. These so called fair uses are permitted even if the use of the work would otherwise be infringing. Now onto the Rock Roulette podcast. [00:01:14] Speaker B: Hey, everybody. Welcome back to another episode of Rock Roulette podcast. That's right, the Crazy Ass podcast that took over 1300 albums, stuck them in a lip, stuck them in a wheel. And typically every other week we spin the wheel, she picks a record for us and we go through it song by song, and we talk about the music, the lyrics, excuse me, the production, the arrangement and the melody. Yep, we added some more categories and anybody who knows that, I appreciate it because that means that you're listening. So we do want to say thank you so much to our listeners. If you followed us from the beginning, if you like it, please comment, spread the word. You know, every once in a while we get a little jump and listeners. So that's always good to see. So again, we want to thank you. And tonight we are a duo again. I have Mark. Oh, hi Mark. And I'm sad. Ciao, buena Sierra. So last week we did a one fur. We did kick out the Jans by Mc five, a very, very influential album. Very big. I mean, for anybody who has followed the biz, let's say, knows punk and obviously some of the hair metal stuff, it's influenced. And I mean, to me, I heard some, definitely some grunge influences in there, for sure. And it was a first album and it was a live album. So we got a lot of that energy in there and we got the live production energy. I mean, it sounded like everything was legit. It sounded like tomfoolery. So please, if you know of any, make a comment and let us know, say, yeah, you guys are stupid. This is what this was re recorded. This was this, this was this. But it's pretty pure and obviously pretty energetic. Some. Some good stuff in there. And it was a short career. But I mean, they made a massive impact for sure. Because again, if you listen to a lot of the interviews of bands and that came after them, they were massive influence on them. So, Mark, what do you think overall, yeah. [00:03:02] Speaker A: I mean, I'd heard about them for a long time. I never really listened to their music, but from what I can gather, they were influenced. Lots of people, and you definitely could hear the influence on stuff later on, so. Yeah, it was good. I liked it. [00:03:14] Speaker B: Yeah. And, like, another one and done. What was that? Two in a row. One and done, right? [00:03:20] Speaker A: Yeah, two in a row. And then Danzig and then this. [00:03:23] Speaker B: Ah, that's right. We had that before. And then Danzig and then this, so. But we've been spinning the wheel a lot lately, so before we get to the model wheel, as always, we have a new segment which we like to call new bets. We have a little baby wheel where we have. Well, it used to be a baby wheel, but looking at it now, it's. It's kind of like it's grown a little bit. I think it's at least a toddler now. So Marcuse. Marcus found a bunch of stuff to add in there. I can see. So it's my turn this week, and while Mark spins the intro, I'm going to debate whether I'm going to pick the song that I've been wanting to do or if I'm going to just say fuck it and spin it, so. [00:03:58] Speaker A: All right, here we go. [00:03:59] Speaker C: In a world where new music is. [00:04:03] Speaker A: Not easy to find, welcome to new bets. [00:04:14] Speaker B: We only do the air horn when Frank's around, right? [00:04:17] Speaker A: Yeah, there's no air horn today. [00:04:19] Speaker B: I'm trying to think. It's funny because I kind of wanted Frank to hear this song too, the one that I've been trying to pick. So if you don't mind, maybe we'll call an audible, even if next time it's someone else's turn, if he's on, maybe I can pick the song, and maybe we'll just go with the wheel today. [00:04:36] Speaker A: Yeah, let's go with the wheel. [00:04:37] Speaker B: Okay. Let's go with the wheel. Yeah. [00:04:39] Speaker A: All right. Here's the wheel. [00:04:53] Speaker B: 7 hours after violet radiance I'm gonna let you take this one, because I've never. [00:04:59] Speaker A: You probably don't know who they are, and neither do I. [00:05:01] Speaker B: No clue. [00:05:03] Speaker A: That's okay. That's what this whole wheel is about, isn't it? [00:05:06] Speaker B: Yeah, absolutely. [00:05:08] Speaker A: New music that we haven't heard before. [00:05:10] Speaker B: Yeah, I've been trying to do a lot of that lately. Try to try to discover new stuff to listen to. And even if it isn't brand new, just some. Some rabbit holes of bands that I haven't really explored and see. Hey, you know, this is stuff I should have checked out, or, I'm glad I didn't check this out. Oasis has been a big rabbit hole for me lately, and come to find out that I. Yeah, I kind of dropped them after being here now, which was after morning glory and going back, I'm like, wow, I really should have kind of kept up with them. I mean, Noel's a great songwriter. Yeah. And now they're coming back. They're going to be in the US next summer, and my son's like, oh, can you check the tickets? Yeah, well, tickets are the cheapest I've seen, and they're not even going through Ticketmaster. I read. Yeah, that's what I read. I don't know if that's possible or whatever, but they said, oh, check, you know, like, stubhub, and let's see the one seatgeek, whatever it is. [00:06:04] Speaker A: Isn't that still all live nation? I doubt they're gonna be bypassing live nation. [00:06:08] Speaker B: Here's the deal. You know how much the cheapest tickets I've seen so far were $249 each. Wow, those are the cheapest when you sort by price. [00:06:17] Speaker A: Okay, that's a lot of money. [00:06:20] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:06:22] Speaker A: Let's see what this thing is, which is 7 hours after violet. [00:06:25] Speaker B: Is it like some super group or some new group? [00:06:28] Speaker A: I don't know what it is. And the song is radiance. Let's see what it's like. It's like 330, so it's not super long. So here we go. [00:06:48] Speaker B: Into my pain once again. [00:06:53] Speaker C: I feel like everything. [00:06:59] Speaker B: Where have you been, my friend? [00:07:03] Speaker C: Because the absence of your empathy is bounding in my way I see you for who you are. [00:07:35] Speaker A: What do you think of that? [00:07:36] Speaker B: It's okay. I think it needs a little more. I mean, the drums obviously got the fucking thing. [00:07:42] Speaker A: Well, the beginning drums. It's very linkin park. [00:07:46] Speaker B: Yeah, well, I mean, you know what. [00:07:47] Speaker A: I mean, the future. [00:07:48] Speaker B: I mean, it's basically like. It sounds like a loop. [00:07:51] Speaker A: That's what I mean. Yeah, that's very big, what they do. That's just so funny. Like, now that you've not listened to them a little bit more, you can see, like, the influence on bands after them, and that's definitely a thing. I mean, I'm sure other people were doing that during the time frame, too, but. Yeah, that just sticks in my head. Yeah, I like it. [00:08:05] Speaker B: This is like a group, though, made up of other people. Like, one of the guys are from system of a down. I don't know, the other bands that the other people are from. [00:08:12] Speaker A: Gotcha. [00:08:13] Speaker B: But it is a. [00:08:14] Speaker A: When it came in, there really wasn't a big punch, though. [00:08:16] Speaker B: Yeah. I mean, I like the whole, but I just. I feel like if it. A little bit more oomph. [00:08:22] Speaker A: Let's see what the rest does. [00:08:23] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:08:23] Speaker A: Here we go. [00:08:38] Speaker C: Inside of me I'm not feeling okay. My darkest day who you are rainy are who you are who you are where you are where you are. [00:11:04] Speaker B: What did you think? [00:11:05] Speaker A: It's not my thing. [00:11:06] Speaker B: I like the chorus. [00:11:08] Speaker A: Well, I think the chorus is good, but the whole song lacks oomph. It's very. It sounds like. It sounds like there's a blanket over it. Like the parts that go a little softer to harder and not very defined very well. [00:11:20] Speaker B: And I think a lot, honestly, a lot of that has to do with the drumming. I just. The drums have no power whatsoever. It sounds like. I mean, listen, like Ringo Starr used to put towels over the drums and I. To me, that's kind of like what it sounds like, but not as good like those. His drums were recorded much better. And my thing is, if you're gonna scream in a song, but the music behind it doesn't warrant that. You know what I mean? I don't mind screaming. I'm okay with it. But when the music behind it just doesn't have that power, it's just a little. And. Yeah, the chorus is. I really like the chorus. If it was kind of just that, like, oh, that's a good song. You don't need it as much there. Kind of. But listen, I can complain about this all the time. I'm going to tell you this, too. The. The one song that I've been saying I'm going to play, the drums sound the same in that, too. So as much as I like that song, I'll be complaining about that as well. [00:12:13] Speaker A: And the scream is not very loud in the mix either. It's like pretty low in the mix. Like, it should be louder if you're going to do that. I wasn't a big. I'm not a huge fan of that. I mean, it's not horrible, but it's good to hear new stuff. I like the chorus. [00:12:25] Speaker B: Yeah, I do like the chorus. I think they did a really good job. Of course, that sounds good. But again, a little bit something. And again, to me, it has to do with the drums more than anything. You got no power there. [00:12:35] Speaker A: Nah, it sounds like every other drum thing that's out there. [00:12:38] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:12:39] Speaker A: Okay, well, here's the ending of the segment. [00:12:43] Speaker C: In a world where new music is. [00:12:46] Speaker A: Not easy to find, welcome to new bats. [00:12:58] Speaker B: So now we switch over to the big wheel. [00:13:02] Speaker A: The big wheel? Yeah, I'm ready for the big wheel. So last week we decided, okay, we're gonna think about eighties. And you picked everything, so I guess that works. [00:13:09] Speaker B: Yeah, well, you said something and then Frank gets us something. I said, well, listen, how about we just say everything and then maybe somebody will get what they want. [00:13:19] Speaker A: No, I'm gonna say eighties again. I'm gonna say eighties rock somewhere in there. [00:13:23] Speaker B: Yeah, but you, you want like hair rock. Like hair metal rock, right? That's what. [00:13:26] Speaker A: I don't really care. Anything in the eighties somewhere. I don't care what it is. It could be hard rock. It could be hair rock. It could be whatever. I don't care. [00:13:32] Speaker B: Yeah, I think I'd like something like that too. Something nostalgic would be cool. You know what I mean? [00:13:36] Speaker A: Yeah. Not a discovery, but a rediscovery. [00:13:40] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. Something to say. What's the last instance? I mean, Danzig was a little nostalgic for me because I definitely used to listen to that. But I mean, I would, I guess, for what it's worth, slippery when wet was probably the last nostalgic album we had in terms of, you know, us being kids. That was new. [00:13:57] Speaker A: Yeah. I want to see. I want to see what this thing does. It's probably going to do something totally different because that's just what it does. [00:14:02] Speaker B: Let's do this. [00:14:03] Speaker A: Let's spin the wheel. This is BlackBerry smoke. The whippoorwill. [00:14:28] Speaker B: I don't know anything about. I know of them. I mean, I'm okay if you want to do it. Fuck it. [00:14:33] Speaker A: Yeah. I say we do this just because it's something new, something different. [00:14:35] Speaker B: Okay. Yeah. [00:14:36] Speaker A: Now we're gonna see a little bit more about this record. I'll pull it up. So this is 54 minutes. So this is definitely a two parter. Oh, yeah. [00:14:45] Speaker B: Hell yeah. [00:14:46] Speaker A: 13 songs. [00:14:47] Speaker B: Damn it. [00:14:47] Speaker A: Through seven, probably. So do you have the information about this thing up? [00:14:52] Speaker B: No, I did not. I don't want to make a lot of noise clacking on my keyboard. We're talking. [00:14:58] Speaker A: So this is the third studio album by the southern country rock band BlackBerry smoke. It was released on August 14, 2012, I guess. Was released twice. Once in 2012 and then once in 2014 in Europe. Oh, and the one in Europe had three live tracks, so we're not doing the live track thing. So there's a whole. So Zach Brown writes this, has a song on here he wrote with them. And who were the musicians? Charlie star is lead vocals. Richard Turner is bass guitar. Paul Jackson is guitar. Brandon still is piano, and Britt Turner and drums. There's a couple of extra musicians here, too. So producing is BlackBerry smoke, Clay cook, Matt Mangano and Zach Brown. [00:15:37] Speaker B: It's a. [00:15:38] Speaker A: It's a bunch of people. [00:15:39] Speaker B: I think this is the one of the ones that Frankie was supposed to go see. They got canceled. [00:15:42] Speaker A: Is it on that list? [00:15:44] Speaker B: We do have to mention on. We do have to mention this, that Frank had tickets to the Jane's addiction show right after Perry Ferrell punching what's his name in the. In the concert. So he did not get to go see that. And he actually had a Foo fighters cancel on him as well. Right? [00:16:03] Speaker A: Yeah. And Creed, I think, before that, too, canceled on him. [00:16:06] Speaker B: Yeah. But he rescheduled because he sent us a clip from that one. So he did get to see them. And I think BlackBerry smoke was on that list. It could be more, but Cherry can't remember. [00:16:17] Speaker A: Buck cherry. [00:16:18] Speaker B: Buck cherry. Okay. [00:16:19] Speaker A: It was definitely Buck Cherry. Yeah. So he didn't get to see them. I'm interested about this because I think this is going to be in my wheelhouse. [00:16:27] Speaker B: Yeah, I've heard the name. I've never really heard them. So I'm very curious. And I'm down with some southern rock. So. [00:16:35] Speaker A: Yeah, no, I think it's gonna be good. It's gonna be good sounding. I just need to pull some lyrics up, which I'm doing right now. And then I want to see these. How many on each side here? What we have to do, because they do have vinyl of this. So I just want to see what we have to do. So. Oh, this is like a four. It's so long that it's four and that's. It's not long. The songs are short, but I can't. It can't fit on one thing of vinyl, so they have to do three vinyls. [00:17:01] Speaker B: Oh, double album. [00:17:03] Speaker A: Because on the european one. On the european one, um, the three live tracks. Yeah. So I guess we're gonna. We'll do the first seven, I guess. Does that make sense? That's half. So. All right, so the first song is written by the singer. And this is six ways to Sunday. Here we go. [00:17:37] Speaker C: I'm gonna love you six ways to Sunday I wanna do it like it's never been done. I'm gonna love you six ways of Sunday I wanna hear that. [00:17:51] Speaker B: Rumors. [00:17:51] Speaker C: Wicked. [00:17:56] Speaker A: It's very. It's very generic, but I like that there's real drums, like, we're not used to hearing. Everything's like, sample. So I like it. [00:18:08] Speaker B: Yeah, well, this is 2012. It's very clean sounding, that's for sure. I mean, in general, other than the. [00:18:14] Speaker A: Real drawings, very well. [00:18:16] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:18:17] Speaker A: Very fun thing, which is nice. I'm gonna hold off on lyrics for a little bit. Let it play for a little bit more because I think that's the chorus. So we'll let it go through the verse and then come back around. [00:18:26] Speaker B: Okay. [00:18:27] Speaker C: Brother, I've been backside just a little too long you think I know by now what's right and what's wrong. [00:18:42] Speaker A: Living. [00:18:43] Speaker C: It up when the skies ain't blue chasing my tail a couple other ones, too I'm gonna love. [00:19:07] Speaker B: It's not bad, but I mean, you know, obviously we've heard this song, like, many other times. [00:19:12] Speaker A: That's the basic blues progression, country. Let's cut that country. Yeah. Then than rock, I think. Right. At least this song anyway. [00:19:20] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. I mean, yeah, it's not. Oh, my God, this shirt sucks. [00:19:24] Speaker A: Listen. [00:19:25] Speaker B: Yeah, I'm doing a little head buff. [00:19:27] Speaker A: I can take this more than some other shit, so I'm okay. I like the way it's recorded. I think it sounds very well recorded. So I like that. [00:19:34] Speaker B: I mean, it is very tame, the recording, right? [00:19:37] Speaker A: Yeah, well, I mean, I don't know what else you would want from that. [00:19:40] Speaker B: Yeah, it's clean, but tame, kind of. [00:19:42] Speaker A: Yeah, but it's very country, you know? Even though there's rock involved, it's still very country to me. All right, so here are the lyrics. I'm gonna love you six ways to Sunday I want to do it like it's never been done I'm gonna love you six ways to Sunday I want to hear that woman speaking in tongue. And the verse is, brother, I've been backsighting us a little too long. You think I know now what's right and what's wrong living it up when the skies ain't blue chasing my tail a couple other ones, too. So, you know, the lyrics are not. Oh, my God. But, you know, they're not horrible, and. [00:20:13] Speaker B: They are what they are. [00:20:14] Speaker A: Although it's kind of funny. I was listening to a David Lee Roth interview from, like, 1988. And at the end, the guy was asking him, what do you think about this singer? And that singer? And he goes to Axel. What do you think about Axl Rose? He said, well, axl Rose is just starting because this is 88, right? Just when they were hitting big, he said, what do you think of his lyrics? He said, something about, his lyrics are very rhymy together. [00:20:34] Speaker B: As fan, we'd like you to give brief critiques of four different performers, first being Axl Rose of Duns n Rose. Don't know much about. [00:20:45] Speaker A: Axel's beginner. [00:20:47] Speaker C: Axel's starting out, and it's really hard to tell potential. [00:20:51] Speaker A: Early in the game, Axel. [00:20:56] Speaker B: Imitates plant. [00:20:57] Speaker C: Pretty good. [00:20:58] Speaker A: You think it's plant imitation? [00:20:59] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. I could sing it to you, but. [00:21:03] Speaker A: You'Re not gonna be able to read it. [00:21:07] Speaker C: But I do notice that some of his lyrics, although a bit moon in. [00:21:13] Speaker B: June rhymes with spoon. [00:21:14] Speaker C: What's the sweet gallo mime? [00:21:19] Speaker B: It's a pretty sensitive lyric there. [00:21:21] Speaker A: If you really read the lyric, there's. [00:21:22] Speaker B: A pretty sensitive, real human being inside there. [00:21:26] Speaker A: That dog will hunt he didn't particularly like that too much because he just felt that everything rhymedous. So this rhymes too? [00:21:38] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. Well, I mean, I think rhyming is just something that, you know, they always say. Like, the human mind always tries to make sense of something, right? Like, if it sees a picture, tries to make whatever or whatever if it hears something. And I guess the rhyme kind of helps you keep it together. I mean, I know when I wrote lyrics, it wasn't always the rhyme. I actually liked when I get rhyme, but it flowed, you know what I mean? [00:22:04] Speaker A: That's probably what he was saying too. [00:22:05] Speaker B: Because we picked up on that too. Yeah, we picked up on that too, though. Especially, like some of the. Like, the rock stuff where everything is rhyming. All of a sudden you throw this one line that doesn't rhyme. It's just like. And you hear the brakes screeching, like, wait, that doesn't. It doesn't fit. [00:22:20] Speaker A: No. If you're rhyming that much, you gotta continue to rhyme. Or if you throw. If you throw something in like that, it just throws it all off. [00:22:26] Speaker B: Yeah. Or something that sounds similar, even if it's not a perfect rhyme. Kind of like in the range. [00:22:33] Speaker A: Okay, here we go. Let's continue. [00:22:38] Speaker C: Honey. I'll pick up the snakes and drink the straight line too long as I get a chance to lay my hands on you got my mind right toe in the land look up and tell me does my halo shine? I'm gonna love it six ways to Sunday I wanna do it like it's never been done I'm gonna love the six ways of Sunday. I wanna hear that woman speaking in tongue. You knocked an angel right off of my shoulder. Not a way my little devil took over. One more. If you need a disciple, we can have a little revival. Yeah. [00:23:36] Speaker A: Before the solo happens, I'll read some read lyrics to that second verse, honey, I'll pick up mistakes and drink the straight line, too as long as I get a chance to lay my hands on you I got my mind right toeing the line look up and tell me does my halo shine? And then the bridge is. Or the, I guess is bridge. You knocked the angel right off my shoulder right away my little devil took over woman, you need a discipline no woman, you need a disciple we can have a little revival. [00:24:07] Speaker B: So clearly, that's like. There's like, kind of like sexuality and with religious kind of tongue in cheek. [00:24:14] Speaker A: Yeah. And saying that, you know, he's the bad influence on him. Right. So the angels knocked it. Right. The angel off his shoulder. And now the little devil takes over. Is that the devil on the other side? I mean, it's interesting. I mean, it's nothing to me. You know, it's fairly. It's fairly stock, I think. I'm curious to see what the solo is gonna bring. [00:24:34] Speaker B: I thought I heard maybe a little slide there in the very first, and I could be wrong. [00:24:39] Speaker A: Let's see. So what'd you think? I think that the solo is very modern country ish to me. Right. I hear a little bit of eagle eagles in there. [00:25:12] Speaker B: Oh, absolutely. I heard the eagles when they first started singing. [00:25:16] Speaker A: His voice is not eagles, though. His voice feels more like black Rose. His voice is a little Leonard Skinner. [00:25:22] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. I hear the black rose in the music. And again, listen, I'm not gonna sit and be like, oh, my God, the black rose. And was like, holy shit, what is this? No, I mean, clearly, I think that fact comes down to, as well, that. Well, there's two things, right? One, maybe we haven't listened to enough music where it's like, well, you guys say the black crows, but what about this, this and this? Like, okay, yeah. I mean, but also, too, is that sometimes I think a band can take a stock sound but still kind of make it their own, to the point where you're like, this reminds me of this. But, yeah, I mean, I definitely hear black crows in this. I definitely hear eagles in this. I hear some Leonard Skynyrd in this, which is normal. [00:25:59] Speaker A: That's what you would. [00:26:00] Speaker B: I mean, listen, they're a southern rock band. [00:26:02] Speaker A: Yeah. No, they're a southern rock band. I mean, to me, this is more country than rock. [00:26:06] Speaker B: I was thinking that, too. And think about the Eagles, how. When we did, though, right? I mean, how country was that? More country than I expected. [00:26:13] Speaker A: Yeah. Well, yeah, it was before the change really took part. [00:26:17] Speaker B: Well, yes. And no, because the first album had some stuff. I think it was kind of like. And I haven't listened to all of it. But then again, there was the argument, right, with the producer. He's like, you're a country man. Like, no, we're not. [00:26:27] Speaker A: Oh, yes. [00:26:27] Speaker B: You like that record? Definitely. [00:26:31] Speaker A: I mean, I don't hate this. This is, you know, we'll see how. How it changes. Or does it go like this through the whole record? Like, I don't know what they do. They get rock coming up, or is this, you know, the. The country? This is what they put. They sound like. I don't know. I know of them. I don't know anything, really, that I could pull back and say, yeah, song by them. [00:26:50] Speaker B: I honestly thought they were more in the hair metal. Bang. No, I don't know why. Maybe because I kind of heard their name associated with some, like the latter ones, like Buck Cherry and stuff like that. But sometimes you kind of mix and match, especially as you get older. [00:27:04] Speaker A: Can't remember anything, so. Cr's. Yeah, let's finish this up. Here we go. [00:27:30] Speaker C: I'm gonna love the six ways to sun it. I'm gonna love you six ways of Sunday I'm gonna love you six ways. [00:27:48] Speaker B: Of Sunday I thought it would have ended differently. [00:28:04] Speaker A: Really? [00:28:04] Speaker B: I don't know what I was expecting, but, yeah, I don't know. I thought it was kind of quick. [00:28:07] Speaker A: It's a short song. 327. It's not very long. [00:28:10] Speaker B: I felt shorter than that. Yeah, pretty quick. [00:28:12] Speaker A: I'll go first. I'll go first. Let's see. [00:28:14] Speaker B: Lyrics. [00:28:15] Speaker A: I want to say, you know, there's not a lot of lyrics in here. I'm gonna say five on the lyrics. Maybe it'll get better. So I want to kind of, like, temper my, you know, my ideas about what this is. I didn't hate the melody. I'm gonna give that a six, maybe. Music. I'm gonna give that a six. I thought the solo was good. I thought it fit the song. He didn't really go out of any place. I thought it was very modern country to me. Not that that's a bad thing. It's just. It seems like this is a very stock song, so I'm hoping that they stretch out a little bit. The arrangement is fine. It's a good arrangement. I'm gonna give that a six. And I like the production a lot. I think that, you know, we hear some stuff that's so processed that it's a little hard sometimes. Like, you come back to this kind of stuff where everything's clear. I like the piano. The bass didn't stand out that much to me. His vocals were fine. Everything was, you know, in its place. So I was, like, happy with that. I'm curious to see what the rest brings. But it wasn't a horrible start. What do you think? [00:29:08] Speaker B: Hard. I'm gonna see probably five in the lyrics. I mean, they're. They're fine. I mean, I could probably even go lower. But I'll say five. I'm gonna do production first. I'm gonna say seven on production. I mean, I do wish had a little bit more. But again, it is clean. I think some of the. Even the piano, some of the stuff it was doing, I think even if that was louder, probably give the song a little bit more character. But it was nice and clean. The drum sounded nice. Melody. Yeah, say six on the melody. It was pretty catchy. Arrangement is fine. I'll say. I'll say six on arrangement. And what's left? What did I forget? I know I forgot something. [00:29:44] Speaker A: Music. [00:29:45] Speaker B: Oh, wow. [00:29:45] Speaker A: Music. [00:29:46] Speaker B: Jesus. One of the big ones. One of the ogs. I'm gonna say five on the music. I mean, it's. It's middle of the road. You know what I mean? It's. It's okay. Like, it's. It's not bad, but, I mean, it's. To me, this is the equivalent of kind of like a hair metal band doing their blues doll, where it's like, oh, you've heard this before, and you kind of have to do it like this. I mean, again, it's not. It's not a bad song. I just. I'm kind of hoping that there's a little bit more creativity going forward, let's say. [00:30:16] Speaker A: I mean, I don't take it as, like a hair metal band doing blues, because I think this is really what they do. This is their sound, I think. [00:30:23] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean, I guess I shouldn't have used that. I guess I use it because I'm expecting different things coming, and I really don't know what's coming. So, I mean, if this is what they do, then, yeah, then it's not. I guess in my mind, I'm like, oh, this is probably their typical kind of stocky song, and then the rest of it's going to be different. But I could be wrong because it could all be like this. In which case, like, okay, then it's not that I'm giving them credit right now. [00:30:50] Speaker A: Yeah. Well, the next song is written by the singer and Travis Meadows. Travis Meadows is a country music singer. He has released four albums and written a number of songs for other artists. I assume this can be in the same kind of vein, but I don't know. I have. I have no idea. My idea is that bluesy country thing is what they do. So I don't really know if this is going to change or not, but I'm hoping to get a little more rocky, I hope. [00:31:16] Speaker B: And I just. I just realized that I mistakenly said Zach Brown from Pantera. But clearly that's not. It's a Zack guy from there, too. I can't remember his name, though. [00:31:29] Speaker A: From who? [00:31:30] Speaker B: I'll look it up. Yeah. But I don't know, I just thought that initially. [00:31:32] Speaker A: Okay, so this is pretty little lies. [00:31:45] Speaker C: Come over here and sit by me, tell me everything I wanna hear. I'll pretend that I don't see the reason you're back over here. You look cold. I'll build a fire. There's a box full of wine in the fridge. We won't talk about what's his name. That's just water on a fridge. Yeah, you made up your mind but he ain't here with us tonight, so kissed me one more time cross every t and d every eye of that pretty little lie that pretty little lie. [00:32:42] Speaker A: Does that sound like Bon Jovi to you? I don't know why that just popped in my head. [00:32:46] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. You know, I didn't think, well, well, does Bon Jovi sound like this? [00:32:51] Speaker A: Maybe that's what it is, the new Bon Jovi? Yeah, maybe. [00:32:55] Speaker B: I think really. I mean, you know, this music has been going. They're the ones that kind of dip their feet into. Right. But, yeah, I can. I can hear it. Even some of the. The intonations he's doing. I heard a little of what's his name in there, too, though. Tom Petty. [00:33:13] Speaker A: I could hear that. [00:33:13] Speaker B: A little bit of those minor chords kind of going in the background that he uses, so. But, I mean, listen, he probably consider himself a southern rocker, too, so would think so. [00:33:22] Speaker A: So this is two songs in. My assumption is this is what they do, so this is what they're gonna sound like. This, to me, is still a little more. I mean, they're calling it southern. Southern rock. I'm not feeling a lot of rock here. It's more country than it is rock. [00:33:37] Speaker B: Yeah, I would. I think so. I mean, I don't. You know, when I think of southern rock, especially night stuff like the Allman brothers, you know, there's a little bit more punch there, right. [00:33:47] Speaker A: It's also a different time, too, man. This is. This is kind of what happens. I mean, you don't really listen to very much modern country. I tend to hear a lot of it because my wife listens to modern country. So I can tell you that, to me, this doesn't sound very. This is about. This is modern country ten years ago, more at this point. So that makes a lot of sense. This is what it sounded like now, modern country is a little bit different than this, but at that time frame. Yeah, 2012. This is definitely what it sounded like to me, as far as I know. Again, I don't. I don't follow it, but again, when I'm in the car, my wife's driving, it's her car, so she puts whatever she wants on. And if it's modern country, that's what's playing. Let me read lyrics. [00:34:25] Speaker B: So she might like. [00:34:26] Speaker A: Yeah, I'm gonna put it on and. No, I put it on and see if she likes it. Now that I know. [00:34:31] Speaker B: I mean, overall, I do find this a little bit more interesting than the first one. I think there's a little bit more going on in terms of the music and the melody. [00:34:38] Speaker A: Yeah. The inflection and stuff I hear. It just brings Bon Jovi into my head. I was listening to her going, even the voice sort of sounds like that. It might. Just because he's copying that. [00:34:47] Speaker B: Yeah, I know. [00:34:49] Speaker A: And not the other way around. [00:34:50] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:34:50] Speaker A: It's just weird. That popped into my head. Cowboy page that's been going on for, like, 30 years. [00:34:56] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:34:57] Speaker A: All right. Come over here and sit by me. Tell me everything I want to hear. I'll pretend that I don't see the reason you're back over here. Like, I don't know if I like hear, hear. And then h e r e rhyme together, because it sounds like the same thing in my head. I don't particularly like that too much. You look cold. I'll build a fire? There's a box full of wine in the fridge we won't talk about what's his name? That's just water under the bridge? You made up your mind? But he ain't here with us tonight? So kiss me one more time? Press every t and dot every I? That pretty little lie? That pretty little lie? So not too sure how bad. [00:35:30] Speaker B: I mean, it's an interesting take on the. Well, it sounds like she's cheating on whoever she or he wants her. [00:35:37] Speaker A: That makes sense. [00:35:38] Speaker B: Well, made up of mine, but he ain't here with us tonight, so, in other words. Right? [00:35:41] Speaker A: Yeah. All right, let's continue. Here we go. [00:35:44] Speaker C: I thought we had it all figured out. There was me and there was you and him I was hoping for a chance to cuss you out but then you came walking in and it hit me like I ain't been hit before I guess one of us never changed that. You and me sitting on the floor I let you get away with anything made out of your memory ain't here with us tonight so yes, me one more time cross every t inside every eye of that pretty little light. [00:36:37] Speaker B: That. [00:36:37] Speaker C: Pretty little light that pretty little light that pretty little light. [00:36:51] Speaker B: Show pretty little liars. [00:36:52] Speaker A: There is a show, yes. I don't know anything about it, but there is a show. That chorus is 100%. That's where the Bon Jovi thing hits me, because they do the sort of, like, Richie Sambora high vocal behind the chorus thing there. So that's. That's the part that really reminds me of it now is listen to, like. Oh, yeah, that's what it is. [00:37:08] Speaker B: But where. Do you know where these guys are from? They. I assume they're from the South. [00:37:11] Speaker A: I pretty think so. Um, let's see. BlackBerry smoke is Atlanta, Georgia. [00:37:15] Speaker B: There you go. Bon Jovius, New Jersey. [00:37:19] Speaker A: Get this. Right. Southern New Jersey. [00:37:21] Speaker B: Yeah. Maybe that's as far as it goes. Maybe South Jersey. I mean, listen, it's. It's fine, man. I mean, again, it's not the first time somebody who did one kind of music ventured into country, right? I mean, Ray Charles did it. The dude from what's his name from Darius Rucker. I mean, they had a little bit of change to it anyway. And weren't they from Georgia as well? [00:37:43] Speaker A: Yeah, they were from. I think it was Georgia. [00:37:46] Speaker B: A little bit of that. Kind of. Yeah, a little bit of that changed to it. But I hear Bon Jovi doing this, and I can hear him vocalizing and. Without a doubt. [00:37:56] Speaker A: Yeah, in the chorus, too. That's where I get it. Okay, so I thought we had it all figured out. There was me, there was you and him. I was hoping for a chance to cuss you out, but then you came walking in. So my assumption here is that he didn't know about the other guy, and then he found out, right? There was me, there was you and him. I was hoping for the chance to cut cuss you out. Why would you be cussing her out? Because you found out about him. Now, whether he's her husband or her boyfriend, who knows? It does not really say. Then it's. It hit me like I ain't been hit before. I guess one of us never changed. Now it's you and me sitting on the floor. I'd let you get away with anything. I'm back to the chorus again, and it's pretty little lie a bunch of times. And now we're gonna do solo. So my assumptions the soul is gonna be very similar to the last kind of thing, and it's gonna be. And it's gonna fit. It's not gonna be super exciting. It's gonna fit the song, and, you know, it's gonna be typical. What I feel is what's going on with, you know, modern country guitar solos. It's. It's very worked out. You're not going, oh, my God, look at that. It's just. I mean, they all play very well, and this guy sounds like he can play, obviously. [00:38:55] Speaker B: Is it the one guitar player? I know you've read out the cast. [00:38:57] Speaker A: Before, but now I have to look again. Yeah, well, the singer plays some guitar, so I don't know who's doing. The singer does lead vocals, guitar, pedal steel, and banjo, so he does three. The other guy just says guitar. It doesn't say who's doing lead, who's doing rhythm, so who knows? I do not know. [00:39:10] Speaker B: And Rex Brown was the one from Pantera, by the way. [00:39:12] Speaker A: There you go. That's what I figured. Here we go. Back it up a little bit, and let's do solo. Same. [00:39:36] Speaker B: You say it's the song? [00:39:38] Speaker A: I mean, yeah, it's those bends that they do. [00:39:40] Speaker B: I think if you came in with some rip roaring. [00:39:45] Speaker A: What I think you could. You can make it a little more. A little more energetic. It's very. It's very unique. Here are the bends, and here's the. Here's the country bends that we do, and that's where it comes, and it follows all the chords, and it's. There's very little that's going to be there to surprise you. It's what? It's very safe, I should say. It's very safe, and there's nothing wrong with safe. [00:40:05] Speaker B: Mm hmm. [00:40:05] Speaker A: But once in a while, as a guitar player, I like. I like less safe. [00:40:08] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:40:09] Speaker A: Not to say it's wrong. It's bad because it's not bad. He's a good guitar player, you know, to fit yourself in there, but there's real. No, to me, it's not. I mean, I'm only two songs into this band. Right. I don't feel there's a lot of personality there. I don't think generally the song has a lot of personality. So far. They sound very stock to me. Not as bad it probably does. [00:40:28] Speaker B: Well, no, yeah. I mean, listen, we. You know, there's stock songs from other genres of music. Right. I mean, it doesn't. This doesn't push the envelope, but, you know, it's a decent song within that space. [00:40:40] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:40:41] Speaker B: So. Yeah. [00:40:41] Speaker A: All right, let's. Let's continue it up your mind when. [00:40:45] Speaker C: He ain't here with us tonight. So kiss me one more time cross every t and Daevde that pretty little light, that pretty little light your pretty little light? That pretty little light yeah, you a damn light yeah, you a damn life maybe you were down. Yeah, you a damn lie. [00:41:40] Speaker A: What song is that at the end? We do a pretty little lie. Whatever song that is I'm hearing in my head, I just can't place the song. [00:41:48] Speaker B: Oh. You know, I wasn't paying attention. Oh, wait a second. I'll tell you now. If you're doing that, it's got to be. What's his name? Mellencamp. [00:41:58] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. [00:42:01] Speaker B: That's what I hear in my head. Small town. [00:42:03] Speaker A: I'm gonna back it up, and you're gonna tell me what it is. I'll back it up just a little bit here. [00:42:06] Speaker B: Yeah, I wasn't paying attention to that. [00:42:17] Speaker A: That's what it was, right? [00:42:18] Speaker B: Yeah, I hear it. Yeah. [00:42:21] Speaker A: Yep. That's what it was. I couldn't. I couldn't catch, but, yeah, that's definitely melon camp. Small town. [00:42:25] Speaker B: Yeah. Small town. [00:42:26] Speaker A: Yeah. So you go. [00:42:27] Speaker B: Yeah. I mean, again, he's also got some. [00:42:30] Speaker A: Oh, of course. [00:42:31] Speaker B: Oh, he has a lot of stamps. [00:42:33] Speaker A: You know what? Thinking about it now, this is very reminiscent of his. Some of his stuff, too. Kind of thinking about it. [00:42:40] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:42:40] Speaker A: All right. Why don't you go first? [00:42:41] Speaker B: He's also got a little bit more oomph, I think, though, in production, but as safe. [00:42:50] Speaker A: Why don't you go first? [00:42:51] Speaker B: Listen, I don't condone cheating. I'm gonna say five in the lyrics again. I mean, they're okay. It's a little bit more interesting, I guess, the way he's doing it and trying to figure out exactly, because it's only clear in the first one, but I was clear in the second part. I'll say a six on the music. I do find it a little bit more, even though I probably gave it six on the other one, but I do find this one a little bit more interesting. But I don't think it's a seven. Melody is a six. I'm gonna say arrangement. Arrangement's fine. I'll say six. And I guess it's seven. On production, I mean, it's produced the way it should be. It's clear. And obviously, there's no levels that are. No one's trying to do anything with the levels where you're like, well, this too high, or this is too. Whatever, you know. The drums sound pretty good. Yeah, it's. Again, it's not a bad song, but I don't know that I'd necessarily go back to these or kind of leave it on, maybe. I don't know. I mean, again, it's kind of like you're saying it's a little bit stocky, but within that stock, they're fine. So what do you think? [00:43:56] Speaker A: I think that I'm gonna do similar to you, except I'm gonna do lyrics. Five, Melody. Six. I'm gonna do five on the musicianship, because I just find that it's very samey same right at the moment, so. And the guitar stuff is super safe, which, you know, here and there. But for me, it's just super safe. Arrangements. Fine. Six. It's a good arrangement style. You know, it's standard arrangement stuff. There's nothing wrong with it. It's fine. They're not breaking any rules. They're not breaking any ground here, and. But production is good. It's nice to hear real drums, you know, as opposed to samples and stuff. So I appreciate that. And everything's clear. It's not like anything's muddy. Background vocals are good. I'm still not hearing a lot of bass, though. This is not sticking out. [00:44:37] Speaker B: I haven't even paid attention to bass yet, honestly. [00:44:39] Speaker A: Yeah, me either. Okay, next song is everybody knows she's mine, and this is the singer writing this. So we'll see if it's gonna be similar to the first one, because that's the one he wrote. I'd like to get a little more rock in this, but I've been saying that for two songs already, but I don't know if I'm gonna get that. [00:44:54] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean, like I said, I thought they were just by the name. I thought it was more rock, but this is, what, their third album? [00:45:00] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:45:01] Speaker B: So, I don't know. I mean, if the other stuff is more. And they kind of went a different direction. If it's all like this. I mean, based on the way these songs are for a third album, I'm assuming it's all like this, I'd have. [00:45:10] Speaker A: To think, yeah, it's, again, much more country than I thought it was gonna be. I thought they would have rock with a country twinge. I think it's the other way around. [00:45:17] Speaker B: I was. I was expecting a little bit more Allman brothers, honestly. And, yeah, I agree. [00:45:22] Speaker A: Okay, here we go. [00:45:41] Speaker C: She look good when she wake up in the morning even better than she did last night and when she smiled at me and kisses my cheek I'm thinking, lord, I must I ain't about to say I ain't lucky but some might say I'm a fool yeah. [00:46:05] Speaker B: But. [00:46:05] Speaker C: Chances are I'm doing fine so far cause a mama even said I'm cool look out she gets behind the Georgia while I must get hotter than the big south summertime yeah, everybody knows shake mine that's right. [00:46:37] Speaker B: William, what do you think? Three for three? [00:46:39] Speaker A: I think the first song. I don't know. I mean, I shouldn't say. I mean, I was expecting. [00:46:44] Speaker B: It's their variations on a theme. Right. That's kind of what it is, I think. [00:46:49] Speaker A: Yeah. I'm just curious what this. What this album did. Us top country albums went eight rock albums. It went twelve more than you would think. I mean, the singles didn't do very much. Pretty little lie went to 46 and was like, what was the other band that we did that we really, really liked? [00:47:03] Speaker B: Remember the Suns guys? [00:47:05] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:47:06] Speaker B: Rival sons. [00:47:07] Speaker A: Rival sons. I thought they were more in that vein. [00:47:09] Speaker B: Yeah. I would have thought something. Or, like I said something like, again, country. You know, what, the slide and everything. But again, a little bit more of a. [00:47:18] Speaker A: More rock than country. [00:47:19] Speaker B: Crunch. Yeah. Like some crunch. It's not. It's not. I mean, this is a straight up country record to me. [00:47:25] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:47:25] Speaker B: Which is fine. [00:47:26] Speaker A: I mean, no, it's not bad. I'm not saying it's bad. [00:47:29] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:47:29] Speaker A: And it's very. It's very catchy. It's just so. It's so stock. They don't even change it up a little bit. Enough to make me feel like they're trying to change it up. I mean, this is. This is what they want. This is the sound they're going for, you know, in 2012. This is kind of the sound. I mean, it's still kind of the sound in certain aspects. You know, nowadays, there's a little more. You get a little bit. A little more rap country that happens to now. And there's a lot of singer girl singer country stuff from what I hear. As far as, like, this being a rock band. This is not rock band at all. This is a country band that may have a little bit of rock floating around in it as opposed to, like, Allman brothers or Leonard Skinner, who were rock bands that had a little bit of southern in them. So it's the. It's the flip flop. I mean, I think the melody is pretty cool on the verses. [00:48:11] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. I mean, again, there's nothing wrong with these songs as far as. It's not like, oh, my God, what the hell? I mean, if you're not. If you can't. I know. There's people who cannot tolerate country. It was always so common. What kind of music you like? I like everything but country. Everything but country. I've heard that so many times. [00:48:27] Speaker A: Yeah, I know. [00:48:28] Speaker B: And people. And I'd be like, I like everything and some country. You know what I mean? Again, I don't care what the genre is, if it's a song, but I mean, yeah, I. For this, I'm like, okay, none of them are bad, but I wouldn't know BlackBerry smoke from. And again, I don't listen to the music, so I can't. Whatever. [00:48:42] Speaker A: Yeah, it's just very. It's very the same. And there's nothing really standing out here. His voice is a little bit unique, sort of, kind of. But he does float into territories of other people enough where it's not sticking out as being so, you know, different. [00:48:56] Speaker B: You probably know better than I do, so. Because you hear. [00:48:58] Speaker A: Yeah, but I just. Even if I didn't hear it, it just, to me, doesn't sound. I don't know. I'm not digging this too much as far as, like, I wanted it to be more rock. That's why that was my hope. My hope was it more was a rock with a little bit of country in it, because I think I would like that better. And this is the flop. [00:49:12] Speaker B: That's what I was expecting. [00:49:14] Speaker A: I know that the solo is going to be the same thing as it was before. I'm not going to get anything different out of it. I mean, I'm happy there's guitar solos. Don't get me wrong. You know, in a day and age where there's really no guitar solos, generally I'm, like, happy with that. That there's guitar solos. [00:49:26] Speaker B: Well, there are some. I mean, obviously you and I have spoken about this. I mean, guitar wise, right? Some of the country. You guys are really good. He's good, capable guitar player. But I mean, in general. I mean, I've seen these guys do, like, Van Halen and whatever. On stage, I'm like, nice. I mean, it doesn't come across in the music, but. [00:49:42] Speaker A: No, they're good. Yes. I mean, this guy's good, too. He's a competent guitar player. It's him or both of them or whatever. I don't know who's playing what here. I don't pretend to know. As far as being super safe, it's super safe. Like, no one's taking any kind of risk of any kind. It's just, you know, follow the chords. Play. To play these bends, this is what we're supposed to do and this is how it's going to sound. And, you know, I mean, that's kind of my take, but. Let me read lyrics, I guess. She look good when she wakes up in the morning even better than she did last night and when she smiles at me and kisses my cheek I'm thinking, lord, I must be living right I ain't about to say I ain't lucky but some might say I'm a fool the chances are I'm doing fine so far Chris. Mama even said I'm cool okay. She gets me higher than a Georgia pine wild as a muscadine vine hotter than the deep south summertime yeah, everybody knows she's mine that's right. You know, and they're referencing stuff in where they're from, you know what I mean? Which makes a lot of sense for them. We wouldn't know exactly what a muscadine vine is, probably. I don't know anyway, you know, but it's. It's fine. I don't hate. I don't hate any of these. I really don't hate any of these songs. [00:50:40] Speaker B: No, me neither. Me neither. [00:50:42] Speaker A: But, I mean, it's easy listening if you're in the south and it's in a hot night out and you're having a couple beers just sitting outside, you're playing this with the fire on. It's probably fine. It's very laid back. [00:50:51] Speaker B: I think. I think maybe it could be, too, if, like, let's say, okay, this is kind of like what I like. If, you know, if you have an idea what country music. Like, okay, if you want to call it modern country music sounds like, or whatever. You know what I mean? The country pop music. And you're kind of looking for something different to kind of draw you in. I don't think that this is going to do it right. You're going to listen to this and be like, okay, well, this is what I know already. Like, what's. You know, what's different? Where's the different stuff? Where's the. Where's the. The, you know, where's the. The guy writing something kind of different? [00:51:24] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:51:24] Speaker B: And again, like you said, is it is pretty safe, but again, none of these are bad songs. I haven't hated any of these where I'm like, my God, you know what it's like? [00:51:32] Speaker A: It's like the yacht rock of country music, don't you think? [00:51:36] Speaker B: Listen, I like. Yeah, but I. But I like yacht rock. I mean, that stuff came in. You know, that term came in later because, I mean, we grew up on some of that stuff. Liking it, right? I mean, the eagle, Chicago contemporary. You know what I mean? So. [00:51:47] Speaker A: Yeah, you're right. It doesn't really. Doesn't really stick out. [00:51:49] Speaker B: I mean, I don't want to knock them. Yeah, that's. That's my only thing. Like, they're not badly written songs. [00:51:55] Speaker A: No, I agree. [00:51:56] Speaker B: They're safe. [00:51:57] Speaker A: Super safe. [00:51:57] Speaker B: I mean, they're. [00:51:58] Speaker A: All right, let's continue. Here we go. [00:51:59] Speaker B: Which is fine if this is their thing. [00:52:01] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, no, I agree. Let's continue. [00:52:04] Speaker C: Well, there might be a couple kind of locker, but rest assured, brother, this one might. Right there in her backpack. She got my name tattooed well, the sun don't shame saw you looking when she walked in with me I don't blame you. She's a hell of a girl. Now I know how you feel it ain't no big deal I'm the luckiest man in the world she gets me high I have a Georgia plan wild as a muskie die harder than the deep south summertime yes, everybody knows sheep line. That's right. Get it? [00:53:16] Speaker A: That was interesting little part. [00:53:18] Speaker B: So I'm gonna say that that part right there, that little break is my favorite thing so far that they've done. I feel like they kind of stretched out a little bit. Like the guitar became a little bit louder. It got a little bit more rock. Right. A little bit more interesting. Like that again, kind of like that. I mean, clearly they're capable, obviously. So I'm not knocking them on their plane. [00:53:38] Speaker A: I don't know where. What I'm hearing at the end of the verse, though, whatever that little part that they do at the end of the verse, it reminds me of something else. [00:53:44] Speaker B: Yeah, I'm hearing. I'm definitely hearing other, but I guess that's part of it, too, right? If you're kind of writing stuff, that is going to be stuff that sounds like other stuff. Because this stuff sounds like that kind of stuff, if that makes any sense. [00:53:57] Speaker A: I don't know if anyone else understands. Yeah, you know, I understand that. [00:54:00] Speaker B: Yeah. But, you know, take that with a grain of salt with any music that you like. When you hear a new band doing a version of music that you've heard already. You're gonna be like, oh, I've heard this. I heard this in here. You know, the more music that you listen to, the more similarities you're gonna hear, the more riffs you. I mean, how many notes are there? Right? There's so many notes. [00:54:18] Speaker A: Yeah, we got twelve. [00:54:19] Speaker B: That's when I look at somebody like Elton John. Elton John has released God knows how many albums. Like God bless Mandev. How the fuck do you write that many songs? [00:54:28] Speaker A: I do not know. Here's some lyrics. Well, it might be a couple. Kind of like her. But rest assured, brother, this one's mine. I be tearing up my pocket she got my name tattooed where the sun don't shine so you're looking. When she walked in with me I don't blame you. She's a hell of a girl. I know how you feel it ain't no big deal I'm the luckiest man in the world. And then chorus. And then there's that. Hit it and yay. Oho. Hey. Right now. And I right now into the solo and that little part there, like you said, I think it's my favorite thing they've done. Are we gonna take bets about, is this gonna be safe solo or is he gonna do something different? I say it's safe. [00:55:01] Speaker B: I think so, because it sounds like they did that piece and now they're just gonna go back to whatever they were doing before. So let's see. [00:55:08] Speaker A: Here we go. [00:55:23] Speaker C: Ramadan. [00:55:43] Speaker A: So he used a melody of the song in the solo, which is not bad. [00:55:47] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:55:47] Speaker A: Piano part was good. Yeah. I mean, nothing's. Nothing's bad about this. Like, it's not bad. [00:55:52] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:55:53] Speaker A: It's just. It's so the same that it's not bad. You know what I mean? You just like, ah, I can. I can listen to this. There. There's nothing that. Again, like you said, nothing super draws you into it. There's so many familiar pieces in here. Like, even I was listening to that little last guitar thing. I don't know what that is. It's something else did that too. So I just don't know where it's from. But I heard it and went, oh, I heard that before. And other stuff. [00:56:13] Speaker B: I think that again, once you have a genre of music, there's going to be stuff where, hey, this sounds like this. It's not bad, but it's just. It doesn't catch you as much as. And it's not because the other stuff is so different. It's, you know, just sometimes bands kind of stick out because of the way they write or they just do something that's different, that kind of sets them apart. This is. I mean, other than that one little part. Again, like you said, none of the songs are bad, but it's like, okay, now, I'm sure the next one's gonna. [00:56:40] Speaker A: Be an upbeat, kind of mid tempo country song. [00:56:45] Speaker B: Yeah. Probably back to what it was doing before. [00:56:48] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. Maybe a little slower. [00:56:49] Speaker B: This is a little bit more kind of honky tonk, and. [00:56:51] Speaker A: Yeah. Okay, well, let's finish this out. Here we go. [00:57:01] Speaker C: How did anything south summertime yeah. Everybody knows she gets me out of the muskin eye you know? Everybody seem like everybody everybody knows she. [00:57:37] Speaker A: Man. [00:57:41] Speaker B: I feel like their endings are weird. I feel like they end. The songs end in a way that I don't expect them. That's three for three. [00:57:49] Speaker A: I don't know what it is to me. [00:57:51] Speaker B: Just like she's not. [00:57:53] Speaker A: It ended like I thought it was gonna end. It ended like some other song that I know and just. [00:57:56] Speaker B: Did you. [00:57:57] Speaker A: It's just so samey same. And so I was. I was really hoping that I was gonna find something I really like. And again, don't hate it. Could idle put this on and be fine listening to it. 100%. But I just feel that it's so reminiscent of other things and so the same that it just starts to blur in together and that there's not much variation. And, you know, you have one song slower and another song like this and another song slower, and then another song like this. Like, you almost could take the songs and interchange them together and that. No, and he has a good voice, too. [00:58:28] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. Listen, if I was at a party or whatever, right? And this is playing in the background, I wouldn't sit there and be like, oh, my gosh. Shut this shit off. Like, okay, that's okay. It's cool. But I don't think I'd be like, oh, shit, what was that? [00:58:38] Speaker A: No, I didn't. [00:58:39] Speaker B: You know, what was that song? Or what did they just do there? [00:58:43] Speaker A: Yeah, I don't. I don't know how you would differentiate sometimes. I don't know. I guess I'll go first in this one, I guess. Right? I hesitate to. I just wish they would change it up a little bit. I wish they would show me something that I. That I would, like, go, oh, that's cool. Glad they did that. So I'm gonna have to throw fives right now just because I just can't. I just can't break that out of my head right now. I'm hoping the next thing is gonna be a little bit. A little bit different. What do you think? [00:59:08] Speaker B: I mean, the lyrics are cute. I mean, I can appreciate, obviously. So I'll say. Let me say six on the other ones. I'll say six on these. I mean, they're cute lyrics, and, you know, I can appreciate the sentiment. Music, I don't know, because I gave the other one a stick, but. And this one had the most interesting thing. But overall, you know, say five. I mean, the. I don't know, the production, I'm gonna say six. I'm gonna go. I'm gonna knock one down on this one because I don't think it was as well produced as the other ones. I think this one more, so needed a little bit more, even on the. On the drums when stuff wasn't going on. Melody, I gotta say five, and arrangement. I'm only gonna say six on arrangement because I'm a little part. So again, not terrible. Just. I'm waiting for that song. [00:59:54] Speaker A: I gotta change something now because I think that I have to do six on the arrangement, seven on the, six on the production. I do like that one little part. So I'm gonna do fives everywhere else. And six is on arrangements and six is on production, I think so. [01:00:09] Speaker B: Yeah. You know, it's throwing the bones when they do something. [01:00:11] Speaker A: Yeah. No, I mean, again, if I had this thing on, if my wife had this on, I wouldn't turn it off. [01:00:16] Speaker B: No, I wouldn't like, oh, my God, shut this off. I'd be like, oh, this is cool. [01:00:21] Speaker A: Well, the next song is called one horse town, written by Meadows, Jeremy Spillman and star. Jeremy Spillman and star. Meadows is. He's not in the band, so it's. I guess. I guess, you know, it's one of those things where everyone's writing songs. So here we go. One horse town. [01:01:18] Speaker C: Town. Where I come from, you grew up doing what your daddy does. And you don't ask questions. You do it just because you don't climb too high or dream too much. With a whole lot of work and a little bit of luck, you can wind up right back where your daddy was. This little bitty tail. It ain't nothing new we all stick around cause they all tell us to swallow your bride just to make your family proud. If I didn't think that it would shut the whole place down I'd ride my pony right out of this one horse town. Yeah, this one horse town. [01:02:34] Speaker B: That was a little bit more interesting, I think. [01:02:36] Speaker A: Yeah, I wasn't expecting the, uh. Was that harpsichord at the beginning or whatever that was? I think so. Some kind of keyboardy thing? I wasn't expecting that. I mean, the riff is not horrible, that strummy riff. [01:02:48] Speaker B: Mm hmm. I mean, the lyrics to me are very reminiscent of Bruce Springsteen. [01:02:51] Speaker A: Are they? [01:02:52] Speaker B: Like. It's definitely something. Yeah. Well, I mean, even specifically, where you grew up doing what your daddy done. I mean, in the song the river. Oh, God, how does it go? I come from down the valley and, mister, when you're young, they bring you up to do just like your daddy done. I mean, just fine. Listen, I mean, the sentiment is clear. I think, lyrically, this is probably my favorite one so far, because it's not like the other ones are all cutesy lyrics. Right. Which is fine. But this one tells a little bit more of a story. [01:03:22] Speaker A: I was gonna say that I think. I think that's why I like it. [01:03:25] Speaker B: You can picture. And you could picture him with this girl, too, obviously, in the other ones, but. But this one's a little bit more. There's more emotion, I think, in this one. [01:03:33] Speaker A: Well, then let me read you some lyrics. In the tiny town where I come from, you grew up doing what your daddy done, and you don't ask questions. You do it just because you don't climb too high or dream too much. With a whole lot of work and a little bit of luck, you can wind up right back where your daddy was. This little bitty town ain't nothing new? We all stick around because they tell us to swallow your pride and just make your family proud. If I don't think it would shut the whole place down, I'd ride my pony right out of this one horse town. So it's kind of like, you know, it's the age old thing of, you want to leave the town, but in a lot of those things, they leave, right, because the town's teeny town. Want to go to the big city thing here. He's saying, I can't really leave because if I leave, everything's going to fall apart, and everyone else is going to go down, so I have to stay even though I don't want to. [01:04:19] Speaker B: Yeah, it's kind of one of those places where, like, the factory kind of keeps everybody employed and kind of keeps the town going. Right. And if someone opens up something else. My only complaint at this point is that the chorus didn't feel like a chorus. It just felt like a run on verse. You know, it is not a lot different. But again, I think overall, this is the best song so far. [01:04:43] Speaker A: I would agree with that. And the next bunch of lyrics are pretty interesting, too, so I think you might like these. So, here we go. [01:04:49] Speaker C: I'm an old married man at the age of 23? Little boys on the baseball team? And that might be their only ticket out? All they got is a worn out name and a daddy that could have gone all the way? But I hung my saddle up? And I settled down this little bitty town? Oh, it ain't nothing new? We all stick around? Cause they all tell us to swallow your crown? Just to make your family proud? If I didn't think that it would shout the whole place down? I'd ride my pony riding out of this one horse town? Yeah, this one horse town? Oh, yeah. [01:06:06] Speaker A: Wow. What do you think of that? [01:06:07] Speaker B: It's kind of, like I said, I wish it was a little differentiation, but overall, I mean, I think it the best song. I mean, lyrically, and again, not that it's doing anything different, but just, I think the lyrics push it forward, and, you know, clearly there's other sentiments in his voice, and it's definitely the most serious song. Like, without a doubt. [01:06:28] Speaker A: Like you said, has a story, so the story kind of helps the whole sitch. [01:06:32] Speaker B: And you can picture, too, right? Even if you're not from a small town, I mean, no matter where you are, odds are you're still kind of within some kind of community, right. Where some people go out of it, some people stay in it, and they either make the best of what they are, or they just kind of, you know, mid level. [01:06:50] Speaker A: Yeah. Well, it sounds like he wanted to get out, but he decided not to, so. Yeah, he says, I'm an old married man at the age of 23, got two little boys on the baseball team, and that might be their only ticket out. All they got is this worn out name and a daddy that could have gone all the way. But I hung my saddle up and settled down. So I don't know if he's saying that he played baseball, too, or maybe he did rodeo. I hung my saddle up and settled down. I don't know. It doesn't really say what he did, right. But he had the same. He had an opportunity to do something. He didn't do it. [01:07:24] Speaker B: I mean, I was kind of thinking the baseball thing, and maybe the saddle was just a, you know, like a metaphor. Yeah. Or, you know, could have gone all the way in something. [01:07:31] Speaker A: Yeah. Like I said, I agree, too. I think this is the best song so far because it has a little bit of story. It's a little easier to digest. I think that the chorus is a little run runtimey together. It's not as. It's not a super catchy chorus. I mean, it's not bad. But you're right, it does sound similar to the verse a little bit. So that would be the only thing I would say that I wish was a little bit better. But I mean, as far as, like, instrumentation and stuff, all this stuff, at least it's a little bit different. It's a little bit of a change of pace than the other three songs before this. So let's continue. Here we go. I think it will probably solo again. Nothing. Nothing that does. It's just there. It's, you know, it's not bad. It's not good. I mean, not. I shouldn't say it's not good. That's harsh to say. He's a good guitar player, but it's just so safe. It's always safe. So I. You know, I don't know whose band this is. I don't know if they are. They are band. Band. Is the singer, the guy, you know what I mean? It's a little hard to figure out, like, what that is. But I mean, as far as me, as a guitar player wise, he can play. His notes are all good. He's not really messing up. Right. Those notes are good. Like, the note choices are fine. Like, there's nothing wrong with it. It's just so boring. It's good. [01:08:56] Speaker B: Yeah. It's exactly. What would you expect without. It's like vanilla. [01:08:59] Speaker A: It's vanilla ice cream. 100%. [01:09:01] Speaker B: Yes. [01:09:02] Speaker A: It's not rocky road. [01:09:04] Speaker B: Yeah, it's good. You know what I mean? But at the same time, right, if you get some bad. It's like the flip, right? So it's vanilla. And if you like vanilla and you know what it tastes like, but if it doesn't taste right, you're like, what the fuck? What kind of fucking vanilla is that? [01:09:17] Speaker A: Yeah, I guess it could be better vanilla, too. [01:09:19] Speaker B: So. Yeah, exactly. [01:09:21] Speaker A: All right, we got 46 seconds. Let's. Let's finish it up. [01:09:26] Speaker C: Oh, yeah. It ain't nothing new. We all stick around. Cause they all tell us to swallow your face just to keep your family crowd. I didn't think that it would shut the whole thing down. I saddle at one horse and ride him right out of this town. [01:10:08] Speaker B: That last note kind of came out of nowhere. [01:10:09] Speaker A: The last note? [01:10:11] Speaker B: Yeah, that's like a happy. It's like a major chord and it's a minor chord. I'm like, where did that come from. [01:10:18] Speaker A: At least he changed the chorus up a little bit. [01:10:19] Speaker B: It's almost like he ended on a happy. [01:10:21] Speaker A: Yeah, I don't think. Again, I didn't think I'm gonna have you go first, but I like it. Like, I think you said, I think it's the best so far. [01:10:27] Speaker B: Yeah, I think. I mean. All right, so, I mean, lyrics, I'm definitely gonna say a seven. I mean, without a doubt, the best lyrics, but I mean, again, he's not saying anything different, but just the fact that it is kind of different from the other one. They're all kind of. Kind of cutesy, but there's emotion behind this. It's like story and we can picture what's going on and it doesn't come across as phony either. So, I mean, I like that, too. It's not like, okay, yeah, whatever. I'm trying to think if I want to do. I was gonna do sevens across, honestly, because I may not get another seven. I may say six on the music only because I really like that opening riff and they don't really. I wanted that to come back, too, on its own, that little acoustic thing. I thought if they had kind of gone back to that, that would have been cool because I really like that riff. And the fact that they trying to think if I didn't get on music or arrangement that the chorus and the other thing kind of sound the same. All right, I'll say seven on the music because I really like that opening riff. I'll say six on the arrangement, which probably should be the opposite, but production is a seven and melody. Actually, you know what? I'll do seven on the other end. I'll do a six on the melody because that's. I'll ding it on the melody because that's where I'll do it like that. I mean, again, I was going to go straight up sevens, but just the fact that that doesn't change. I think something needs to be dinged for that. [01:11:41] Speaker A: So. [01:11:41] Speaker B: But again, I mean, it's. I think it's my favorite one so far. What are you going to give it? [01:11:45] Speaker A: I'm going to do seven on the lyrics, five on the melody because I have to ding it a little bit for the similarity to the verses and the choruses musicianship. Six again, I'm not super impressed with the guitar stuff. He had one little lick that he played during in between a verse. I was like, oh, where'd that come from? And that was cool arrangement six, it's kind of standard and production. Seven again. Again, it sounds good. You know, it's not super punchy, but, I mean, for what it is and the kind of music it is, I mean, you can't complain that they're not doing a good job producing. Doing good job producing. [01:12:18] Speaker B: No, no. I mean, absolutely. I mean, for what it is, it's produced perfectly. And I know we're given sevens, but technically, we could probably give tens, too, for what it is. I don't want to give it tens, but, I mean, again, you could probably do it because it is produced perfectly for what it is. [01:12:34] Speaker A: All right, so the next song is ain't much left of me by David Lee Murphy, who's an american country music singer and songwriter. He's best known for the number one country hits dust on the bottle and everything's going to be all right and a bunch of other songs. Party crowd out with the bang every time I get around you I know none of these songs. These are these five studio albums. So he co wrote this with the whole band. So we'll see, you know, what the difference is here with someone else writing. Right. [01:13:00] Speaker B: Is it music or lyrics that, does it say, like, what he contributed? [01:13:04] Speaker A: That's not really saying no. [01:13:06] Speaker B: Okay. [01:13:07] Speaker A: All right, here we go. Well, I have to say, I like that better. [01:13:49] Speaker B: They should write every song with this guy. [01:13:51] Speaker A: Seriously. [01:13:54] Speaker B: This is more of what I was expecting. [01:13:56] Speaker A: Yeah, I was gonna say absolutely. [01:13:58] Speaker B: I like that little intro. Yeah. [01:14:01] Speaker A: Drums were doing some cool stuff on the. On the ride. [01:14:04] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. Very interesting intro. Nice riff. You know, it's. It's. It's loud. I mean, I was. The drummers doing a little bit something a little bit extra, but I mean. But I'm not gonna complain. Yeah, this is what. This is what I was expecting more of. But who knows, right? Maybe there other stuff is like that. And this is kind of like, hey, let's. We want to do, like, a traditional country album. Like, that's what it comes when you don't roll these bands. Right? We've had this before when you only hear one album and you wonder, what's the other stuff. [01:14:30] Speaker A: The problem with that is, is that if you're a new fan, you just come into this. This is where you're gonna. You just might have came in right here. [01:14:36] Speaker B: Yeah, this. This is where the rock, like, guys come in, where the wheel tells us to come in number three. Okay. Whatever you say. [01:14:43] Speaker A: You would think by number three, either you're gonna have your style down or you're changing up. Right? So it's either or probably so. But I like this. So far. Hopefully this might be. This might be more of a favorite. Let's see if they don't fuck it up. But I like it. [01:14:55] Speaker B: Yeah, hopefully they are. Yeah, me, too. [01:14:57] Speaker A: Right? Here we go. [01:14:59] Speaker C: From grace was a sight to see good turn to bad and bad turn to misery I found out what it is and what it's not and all I asked for sure ain't what I got now where I'm in rain no real hard to put up with dance with the devil till I'm in this and all I and there ain't much left of me I've been knocked down drug I left for dead hey, I'm still here there ain't much left to see no well, I'm still holding on and there ain't much left of me. [01:15:57] Speaker A: Am I the only one that's disappointed with that? [01:15:59] Speaker B: Oh, you mean with the verse? [01:16:00] Speaker A: It just went back to the same stuff you thought it did before. [01:16:03] Speaker B: Yeah, they kind of go back. [01:16:04] Speaker A: I like the riff. And they didn't use the riff again. They just use it as an in between thing. I wish they would have used it as the verse. Yeah, they didn't. I don't know. See, that's really the problem, I think they fall back to this thing that they do, at least on this album. Right. They fall back to this and where they could have taken it some other place by using that riff to do stuff. They don't do that. And they come back to a thing that just makes me. Reminds me of the other stuff. I don't know. [01:16:30] Speaker B: Yeah. And, I mean, the piano's kind of. Simon still got kind of like that honky tonk kind of little sound. Right. And I mean, as opposed to more of like. Kind of like a rock piano. [01:16:40] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:16:41] Speaker B: But again, if this is them, this is them, right? I mean, we're coming in to them number three, expecting something rock, more rock. But they're like, hey, who told you that? This is what we do, man. You're in the wrong bar. Go next door. [01:17:02] Speaker A: That's true. That's true. All right, let me read the lyrics, I guess. Well, my fall from grace was a sight to see God turned too bad and too bad turned to misery I don't think that's right I found out what it is and what it's not and I'll ask for sure I'll ask for sure ain't what I got I've been married, I've been rained on rode hard and put up wet danced with the devil till I'm in debt took all I got and there ain't much left of me I've been knocked down drug out left for dead barely held together by a few old threads and I'm still here there ain't much left to see no, but I'm still holding on and there ain't much left of me I mean, interesting that they use the ain't much left of me, like, at the ends of the lines. I don't know. I think if the chorus is gonna be that long, I would rather save it. There ain't much left of me to the end and not use it twice. That's just me looking at that. [01:17:58] Speaker B: Yeah, there's a little bit, again of that whole kind of run on thing. [01:18:02] Speaker A: No, he has a lot. His choruses are really long and run on. Yeah, not very. There's not like a super duper catchy thing going on. So he uses a lot of words, which is not bad. It's just. It just becomes, you know, a little too samey. Same sometimes. Because, like, I had big hopes when I heard the riff. I'm like, okay. And then it just didn't materialize. [01:18:22] Speaker B: Yeah, I lost some of that oomph that carried it through the beginning. I agree. [01:18:27] Speaker A: And back this up a little bit. Let's continue. Here we go. [01:18:30] Speaker C: Thought that I'd hit bottom but I ain't there yet would you be surprised at how low a man can get? I watched all them dreams slip through my hands now I'm getting out of here while I still can't put up with dance with the devil to lie I've been there to go like that and there ain't much left of me I've been knocked down drug out left for dead barely feel about you o three I'm still here there ain't much left to see no well, I'm still old and old and there ain't much left of me that's what I know. [01:19:30] Speaker A: Looks like we're getting some. [01:19:31] Speaker B: I kind of liked it better the second time. [01:19:33] Speaker A: What? [01:19:33] Speaker B: I don't know. It hit me better that time. I was kind of, like, really grooving to this. Now I picture myself going shopping and hearing this and like, oh, it's pretty good. [01:19:44] Speaker A: Yeah, the chorus is not bad. [01:19:46] Speaker B: Isn't me. Or there wasn't as much. There wasn't as much piano. I felt this time around, I felt like there was more. Before, maybe I just wasn't really paying attention as much. And when I heard that, I was like, okay, yeah, that kind of sets it back. But now it just felt a little bit more straight up guitar and voice. [01:20:01] Speaker A: I don't know. They're still in the. [01:20:02] Speaker B: Whatever it is. I just like this verse and chorus better. It hit me better than the first time because I totally. When you said disappoint, I'm like, I don't want to say it because maybe. But now I felt like it was okay, so maybe just had a grow on me. [01:20:19] Speaker A: Yeah. I don't know. [01:20:20] Speaker B: Or maybe distinguish itself from the beginning, you know what I mean? Because the beginning was so cool. When you hear that part coming in after that cool beginning, it's disappointing. But here, coming from that, it sounds better. [01:20:32] Speaker A: I don't know, the verse. I wish the verse was a little more sparse. There's a little too much going on there for me. I wish it was a little. I don't know. I mean, I think the chorus, you know, the second time around, I did like better. I'm not too sure I liked the verse any better, but the course I think I'd like better, the verse is thread. Thought that I'd hit bottom, but I ain't there yet could you be surprised at how low a man can get? I watched all them dreams through my hands now I'm getting out of here while I still can what if he's in the same town as the other guy? Yeah, very same sentiment. [01:21:04] Speaker B: There's the dude sitting next to him. [01:21:05] Speaker A: At the beat, probably. Well, it looks like we're gonna have some slide guitar, so that's gonna be interesting. [01:21:09] Speaker B: Yeah, that's what it sounds like. [01:21:11] Speaker A: So let's see, let's see here. Here we go. I liked that better. It was a little more interesting than the other stuff. [01:22:03] Speaker B: I think what I would have liked is I like how they went back to the beginning. I think it would have been cool if the soul kept going, right? Like, it kind of did the loud thing, and then you still kind of had it going over this little part, you know, maybe a little bit more sparse. Like, if we were doing this song, that's like, I would like, hey, man, let's keep soloing while we do this little thing. Just maybe make it a little bit more sparse, but just kind of still have that electric thing. [01:22:27] Speaker A: That's a good idea. [01:22:28] Speaker B: I thought that would have been cool. Or even maybe the other way around, kind of go back into this and then build it up back into, like, the bigger solo you could. [01:22:38] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean, there's lots of things you can do. I I'm just happy to hear some other kind of guitar playing, so I was happy the slide was there? [01:22:43] Speaker B: Mm hmm. Yeah, it's good. I mean, I like this one. I think this is a pretty good two for two right now. [01:22:49] Speaker A: I don't know. I I still miss that riff, and I wish the riff was more prominent. That's only one thing I can say. It's not bad. Just, I wish they would have continued using that rift some other place in some other time. I just don't know. All right, let's continue. [01:23:11] Speaker C: Well, my fall from grace was a. [01:23:13] Speaker B: Sight to see. [01:23:17] Speaker C: Nobody even cared what became of me do I have to get down on my knee and ask the lord above have mercy, please where I been? Rain on a hard and put up with dance with the devil till I mean, there took all I got and there ain't much left of me. [01:23:47] Speaker B: I've. [01:23:48] Speaker C: Been knocked down truck I left for dead barely ever killed by a few old threads hey, I'm still here there ain't much left to see no well, I'm still holding on well, there ain't much left of me now well, there ain't much left to me me I said there ain't much left of me now yeah well, there ain't much left of me oh. [01:24:38] Speaker A: There needed to be a solo at the end of that. [01:24:40] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. You wanted a. Yeah. I mean, I think if they were more rock oriented, there probably would have been. What did we listen to, man, where there was, like. There wasn't a lot of soloing in the middle. Was it cactus? But there was a lot of kind of outro solos. I don't remember. Jesus Christ. We listened to a lot of music on this thing, I guess, sort of making notes. [01:25:00] Speaker A: I know. Seriously? Because I don't remember. [01:25:03] Speaker B: Yeah. When I want to refer back to something like, who the hell did I. We said this about somebody. [01:25:08] Speaker A: So the lyrics are, will my fall from grace was a sight to see. Nobody even cared what became of me. Do I have to get down on my knees and ask the Lord above to have mercy, please? I don't know. But the only thing I can say is where the production really fails me is. Remember when you came in with the vocal and there was nothing there? When they came back in, it felt so tame. It wasn't like, hitting you, like, super hard right there. It just can't. [01:25:33] Speaker B: It. [01:25:33] Speaker A: I think it wanted to hit you hard, or I thought I wanted it to hit me hard right there, but it didn't really do that. It just ended up, I don't know, ended up coming in like a. Like a lamb and not a lion. [01:25:43] Speaker B: Yeah, I said to myself when that part came in, I said, I guess that's country heart. I guess like, that's kind of like. And this is not to knock it. This is not to knock it. It's just not a heavy song. I mean, if this were a heavier song and then they kind of came in that way, it would, to me, would have been even more blatant. But I guess in something like this, I think this is not tanaka, actually. Really? I thought there's a pretty good song overall, I'm like, I agree what you said, because I was thinking the same thing. I was like, okay. I guess that's as hard as they wanted to come back to. It's kind of like the level it was before. It isn't like some. You know what I mean? [01:26:20] Speaker A: Yeah, I don't know. That's what I was just expecting. Why don't you go first? [01:26:24] Speaker B: Let's see. I'm gonna say, I mean, the lyrics aren't bad. I'm gonna say six. I mean, I don't think they're as good as the ones before. I like the music, man. I want to say. I think I'm gonna say seven. I mean, honestly, this one stuck me more than the one before, I have to say. Maybe because I, like, there was a little separation of the verse and the chorus, and it kind of grew on me that that's the one thing that I did like, where, you know, in the beginning. Okay. Yeah. Okay. So, yeah, fuck it. I'm gonna say seven on everything else. I'm gonna throw a bowl because I don't know what it's gonna go back to. I feel like these last two songs are a little bit more something. So what do you think? I know you're not going as high as that. [01:27:04] Speaker A: Probably not. I mean, I'm gonna do six on lyrics. The lyrics weren't bad. I'm gonna give Melody. Hmm. I don't know what I want to do on Melody. I think I'm gonna do a six there musicianship. I'm gonna say a seven arrangement. I'm gonna say a seven. I think I'm gonna do six on production because I really expected. I really expected it to come back. And it didn't come back the way I would wanted it or expected it to come back. That make sense? I wanted it to come back. Yeah. It was like a soft pillow come back instead of someone hitting you in the head with a bat. [01:27:37] Speaker B: Bat, yeah. Somebody hiding like that horseshoe. Like in the cartoons in the. In the thing. As opposed to just a bag. [01:27:44] Speaker A: Yeah. I just. I would want it. I wanted it to come in better. I mean, it's nothing. It is one of the better songs. It has ranked as, you know, higher than most of the stuff we've listened to. Yeah, I mean, the last couple of songs are hitting sevens. That's really where the difference is. [01:27:59] Speaker B: I mean, I think I would go back again. Like, I'm picturing myself because, I mean, obviously we live in an area where if you go to the store, you hear a lot of country music playing on the radios and everything. So I'm thinking to myself, if this came on, I might be interested in paying attention to try to figure out who it was to try to listen to again as of right now, because there's been other songs that we've listened to, and sometimes they sound better in bits than they do going back to listening to them, and vice versa. There's been songs where I was like, oh, I think I should have given this better scores. Like, if I kind of go back and listen to, that's part of what we do. [01:28:40] Speaker A: Well, it's the immediacy of listening to it like this. It's like when you first put the record on. [01:28:44] Speaker B: Yes. [01:28:44] Speaker A: It's like, you a kid, you buy a record, you first put it on. Either you like it or you don't like it. Right off the bat. I think that's really what this is like. Do I like this that much? I don't hate it, but it's. To me, it's so. It feels so run in the mill that I just wish that they would do a branch out. Like in the other song, they did a little intro, which was cool, then they had the riff and then it just. The riff didn't happen. It happened again in between the chorus and the verse and the second verse, but it didn't really. I wanted that. That thing to be the rift that they built everything on. Okay, so I think we're going to end side one here. Oh, yeah, yeah, I think so. Because it's a longer song, so I think that's going to be the smartest thing because the next bunch of songs are shorter. This is the whipper. Well, this is the title track, and it's about 557. It's almost six minutes. So this is a long song for them. So I don't know if they're going to just, like, drag out the normal. What they do or it's going to be different again. Don't know. And this was written by the singer by himself. [01:29:40] Speaker B: I'm thinking some mellow acoustic? Yeah. [01:29:45] Speaker A: Yeah. I don't know what to think now. I just think I'm gonna hear the same thing again, but again, that's not a bad thing. I'm not hating on it. I just. I wish there was a little more variety, that's all. That's it. Because I think they can do that. I think that capable of. It's just they're not. And is the reasonings. Because this is what country music wants, and this is what they're playing, and they're playing it safe. Or is this a change in their style from the previous two albums? I don't know. Here we go. This is the whippoorwill. Oh, you were right. Very mellow. [01:30:23] Speaker B: Yeah. Although I think I was thinking even more mellow, like, no drums and. But I like it, though. It sounds cool. [01:30:31] Speaker A: Yeah. Maybe they'll. Maybe they'll surprise me. We'll see. Here we go. [01:30:52] Speaker C: The only way so the preacher would say, you put me on the Jericho road barefoot and smiling standing there by the piano well, I dream that I heard that people will sing yes, she sang my song and call me by name, yeah hung my head in shame oh, yeah. [01:31:53] Speaker B: I like the music, and I like the verse. I didn't like the chorus. I just felt like the chorus. Not that it came out of nowhere. I mean, it fits, but I don't know. I wanted something a little bit more sultry, I guess you could say. [01:32:07] Speaker A: I like the second part of the chorus a little bit. That little change that happened. I was. I was. I'm just looking for change. But then I heard, all right, so he's gonna do some guitar stuff right now. And I would have approached it way different than he, but again, I'm coming from a rock background, not a country background. So my thing I heard in my head more of a bluesy kind of thing happening right there in between the two lines. [01:32:30] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:32:30] Speaker A: And he just gave me, like, single line things. And that's really, again, because I'm probably coming from a different space. So when I hear that, I'm like, okay, so now what I'm going to do is this kind of thing is that's what I hear coming up. And he's just playing, like, single line them. Like, ah, it would have more impact the other. For me, it would have more impact the other way. Maybe that's just because I'm not into this kind of music. Right. That much. Even though I listen to it, that's not really my thing. But, you know, again, when the song's good, the song's good, right? I don't hate the tempo. I just feels like his verses are very similar. Like, on everything he sings. I don't know if it's an inflection or the way he puts verses together, but they. They feel very much the same all the time. Like, I almost couldn't tell songs apart because his singing is so similar. [01:33:16] Speaker B: Here's. He reminds me slightly. Slightly of this thinger from. Oh, God, he might. Can't remember names. The song that we did. We did the album, too, by them. I think they're from Georgia, too, actually. Oh, but they're not. No, no, I hear that, but, yeah. Oh, my God. I'm gonna kill him. Use somebody. [01:33:38] Speaker A: Oh, kings of Leon. Kings of Leon. That's very true. [01:33:41] Speaker B: Yeah. It's clearly the voices are different, but the inflections. That's what I hear. But, I mean, obviously, there was some of that in. In the kings of Leon, too. There is a little bit of that. Obviously. This is more. But I was thinking, and I was gonna say it before. I don't know. Maybe, maybe not. But I think here I hear it. So. Not that I would confuse the two of them, but I think some of the way he sings. And maybe it's a. Because kings of Leon are from. Aren't they from Georgia, too? [01:34:14] Speaker A: They're from Tennessee. [01:34:15] Speaker B: Okay. Yeah. So let me get a little bit of that. I mean, again, I like the music. I just. I don't know the chorus, just like, once I got to the chorus. Can you. Let's go back to the music and the verse, please. [01:34:26] Speaker A: I like the second part of the chorus. I'd like to. I'd like a little change. [01:34:30] Speaker B: I'm gonna listen to. Obviously. Listen to it again. [01:34:32] Speaker A: Yeah, we'll listen to it again. You tell me if you'd like it better then, right? Oh, well, I'll. Rebirth going through life the righteous way the only way so the preachers would say you put me on the Jericho Road barefoot and smiling standing standing there by the piano. That's interesting. Jericho road piano. That's. That's not a. That's an interesting rhyme. [01:34:49] Speaker B: Yeah. Doesn't rhyme perfectly, obviously, but it flows. You know what I mean? It's not like something like we had talked about in the past with some of them just go. A completely different word. Yeah. [01:34:59] Speaker A: The chorus is. While I dreamed I heard the whipping wheel sing yeah. She sang my song and called me by name yeah I hung my head in shame oh, yeah. So the whipper will ice is a bird, I assume, right? [01:35:10] Speaker B: Yeah. It's got like a gotcha. [01:35:13] Speaker A: Okay, see, I don't know anything about birds, but. Yeah, I understand. I remember that now. All right, let's. Let me back it up a little bit so we can get the verse in. Here we go. [01:35:24] Speaker C: You sewed my years together like a patchwork quilt. Your bogan v is, Bloom. It'll never will. The lessons I remember and some. But I forgot how precious and pure now like a one honey circle drive. Will I dream that her. That a ripple will sing? Yes, she sang my song and call me that name. Will I hung my head in shame. [01:36:34] Speaker A: Before we get to solar. [01:36:36] Speaker B: Yeah, I did like that part better. [01:36:38] Speaker A: Yeah, I. I don't hate the chorus. The second part, I actually think I like the chorus better than the verse. The verses sound very. Oh, Jesus. Yeah, very samey. Um, so let me read lyrics. You sewed my ears. You sewed my ears together like a patchwork quilt. That's an interesting line. I like that. Yeah, your bougainvilleas, bloom. It'll never wilt. The lessons I remember and some that I forgot are precious and pure now that now, like the one honeysuckle drop. And then back to the chorus. And again in my head, I'm hearing a certain type of guitar playing happening for the solo. And I don't think I'm going to get that. [01:37:13] Speaker B: Well, I mean, it's starting out the way I would expect it to. [01:37:17] Speaker A: Yeah. You know, again, I come from a blues rock kind of thing, so for me, that's what I. That's why I automatically default to what I want to hear. Like, right there. You know, I don't mind, like, single note lines and stuff. But maybe you start that way and maybe change it up a little bit and give it a little more oomph. But I don't think I'm going to hear that. I think it's going to be similar to what's going on. And maybe it will get slide again, which would be nice, but I don't know. Okay, here we go. I had high hopes. The second part, I thought was gonna be better. It did a little Brian may kind of thing going on there. A little bit, maybe because of very staccato is more. That's what it reminded me of. I don't know. [01:38:45] Speaker B: And I don't think they needed four bars of that. [01:38:48] Speaker A: No, it needed two bars. And then he needed to go into the other thing. And then that second part was too short. [01:38:52] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. He did something with Gilmore in there. [01:38:59] Speaker A: Yeah, that would work, too. The first part was way too long. And the second part was way too short. Like, they needed to be more. The second part, less of the first part for me. [01:39:08] Speaker B: Yeah. I don't know why they didn't. Why they just did that one thing, like, four times. Even if they had solo or even did that. You know what I mean? Like, he played that part, then he did a little bit of solo, then went back to a little bit of. So, you know what I mean? Like, to break. That's what I was thinking he was going to do, but he didn't. Like, he just played that riff and that was it. [01:39:28] Speaker A: The riff wasn't bad. It's. [01:39:29] Speaker B: I mean, you could have made that. No, but have that be the riff for whatever, and then still kind of do some soloing over that. [01:39:37] Speaker A: Just a melody of some other parts of the song. That's what it is, right? [01:39:40] Speaker B: Yeah, I guess so. [01:39:43] Speaker A: The second part I liked a little bit better, but again, I think that the links of them were swapped a little bit. So I guess we're hitting a bridge now. Maybe this can be a little bit different. Let's see what happens. I don't. Either that or it's the core. It's the verse. Again, I'm not sure it says bridge here, but you can never. These lyrics, lights, and they were right, so. [01:39:58] Speaker B: Yeah, you don't always know. [01:39:59] Speaker A: Yeah, we don't know. Here we go. [01:40:29] Speaker C: Yes, she sang my song and call me that name will I dream never that wimble will sing. Yes, she sing my song and call me by name starting all over again yes, I'm starting all over again. [01:42:07] Speaker B: It'S a little bit more ambitious, I think. [01:42:09] Speaker A: Maybe for me, like, that ending was very, like, it was too long for what was going on. There's a minute of that, and to me, like, they could have been other stuff. Like, what I'm hearing. What I would want to hear is not what I'm hearing. So it's a little. It's a little hard for me to. A little hard for me to think. Yeah, I guess it's ambitious, but it's. It's hard for me to think this is much different than everything else that's come before it. I don't know. That's just my. That's just my gut thing. I'm obviously is the first time hearing this, so I don't really know. So I'm gonna make it easy. I'm throwing sixes across because it's not badly played. So I can't say it's badly played. Badly Sangdan, badly written. It's just to me, I hear you could do a little bit more with what they're doing. And again, maybe there's a reason why they're doing that. I don't know. I'm not in their head, I'm not writing these songs. I have no idea. Like, if I came into this, at this album, it wouldn't be pulling me in to listen to other stuff, just because I feel that, well, if this is like this, everything must be like this. And that could be a wrong assumption. What are you gonna do? [01:43:02] Speaker B: I mean, I'm gonna make it easy. I was thinking the same thing. I was gonna do six as a cross, so make it easy. [01:43:07] Speaker A: It's a little bit more ambitious, but again, they fall into the trap of what they do and listen. I guess that's their song, that's their style. At least on this album it is, right? I just don't think, to me, I hear other things that I would like to hear. And that minute of that whatever outro thing that was, they could use a little guitar in there, I think. A little bit more of a uzi kind of solo stuff. [01:43:27] Speaker B: Yeah. I thought they were gonna do. [01:43:31] Speaker A: This is not what I expected. I saw the thing come up and like, oh, I want to do them because I've heard things, but it's been totally the opposite. Now we're gonna get side to where they're gonna change it up and they're gonna be a rock band on the second side. [01:43:45] Speaker B: I don't. I don't think so. I mean, I do think, though, that these last three songs were better than the first. How many songs we did? Six. Right? Yeah. I mean, I think the first three were just really straightforward kind of country ditties, in a way, and they changed it up a little bit with these last three. I mean, still got that vibe. But I think the lyrics were better, the music was more ambitious and a little bit more of a rock element. So I don't. I don't necessarily think this sounded like a stereotypical country ballad. Right. There was a little bit of that retro sound to it. I mean, again, some of the slides reminded me straight up of some of the slides used in Pink Floyd. And, yeah, I don't like that at the top of the chorus. It's just too happy, I think. But it wasn't a catchy happy. I think that's what it is, you know, when songs are kind of, like, morbid, and then you kind of go into this happy solo, but the happy solo pulls you in just because it's so catchy like, this wasn't as I didn't. And then once we went back to the, the minor, I was like, yeah, that's. I would have kept it there. Like, I thought that was a cool part. And, yeah, I mean, a little bit more interesting, I think, overall, from, from where it started. [01:44:54] Speaker A: Well, yeah, the last two songs about. [01:44:56] Speaker B: It makes me curious to see where it goes. [01:44:59] Speaker A: Well, we'll see what happens next week, what second part does. [01:45:02] Speaker B: Yeah. If anybody listens. I mean, tell us if anybody's a country fan that listens. Where do you rank this as? We're. We're not, you know, obviously we know of country music. We hear country music. We're in a zone that plays a lot of country music, but we're not country music. We don't go out and seek country music. Right. I mean, you hear from your wife just like, you know, I hear a lot of Taylor Swift, and either you like it or you don't like it or whatever, but. So, yeah, I mean, if this is, if you say, hey, this is actually a good country album, or maybe you're a country music fan. You're like, you know what? Yeah, this is like, it's not that great. It's kind of generic. There's other stuff that's better, you know, if you want to listen to country, listen to this or this, especially if you want to hear something that's kind of. Kind of different, you know? [01:45:44] Speaker A: And again, I don't hate it. I mean, it's not, it's played very well. [01:45:47] Speaker B: No, absolutely nothing. Yeah, absolutely not. I don't hate. There's no song here. [01:45:53] Speaker A: No. Why don't you do your thing? [01:45:56] Speaker B: Yeah. So we are part of the deep dive podcast network. Again, great bunch of guys took us right in. If you want individual podcasts, I don't think there's a BlackBerry smoke. But who knows? Maybe in the future or if you want to start one, talk to them. So again, you got rush, you got Judas priest, Raya heave, Tom Petty. You name it. It's probably on there if it's a big name in rock. So check them out. And, Mark, where can they find this on the interwebs? [01:46:22] Speaker A: Rock roulette pod on all the social media. Rock with podcast.com. put your new bets songs in if you want to. Want us to do a newer, newer ish song, like today, we got radiance, which I had never heard of before that song. But, you know, it's interesting to hear what else is out there, you know, because you can get, you can get stuck in the rut of listening to the same stuff over and over again. [01:46:44] Speaker B: I've always heard of these guys. [01:46:45] Speaker A: I mean, they've been around for a while, dude, since 2003. Yeah, that's a long time. [01:46:50] Speaker B: Which doesn't seem like a long time, but now, when you think about it. [01:46:55] Speaker A: It'S a long time. [01:46:57] Speaker B: Oh, my God. Just like, I love, like, if I. If you buy something and it's like, company established 1994. You know what I mean? Back in the day, it'd be like 18 something or early 19, hundreds. But now it's like, wait, you've been around since 94. Hey, that's pretty good. That's 30 years. God bless. [01:47:13] Speaker A: How's that possible? [01:47:15] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:47:16] Speaker A: All right, well, we'll see you next week. [01:47:19] Speaker B: Yep. Ciao. Ciao. [01:47:20] Speaker A: Later. [01:47:33] Speaker C: It.