Episode 116 - Seether - Disclaimer - Part 1

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That's right, the craziest podcast that took over 1, 300 albums, stuck them in a list, suck them in a wheel, and typically every other week we spin the wheel. She picks a record for us and we go through it side by side, track by track, and we vote on each thing based on music, lyrics, production, melody and arrangement. Again, just a bunch of friends who wanted to do a podcast or love music and we're just having some fun here. And again, first and foremost, we want to thank all of our listeners. There seem to be a recent uptick lately, so we really appreciate that and spread the word if you like it and tell us what you like, what you don't like, what you'd like us to do, not do. We're all ears, man. We're here for you. And we again, we really appreciate everybody listening. So tonight we are a duo. We have Mark. Oh, hi, Mark. [00:02:05] Speaker A: What's up, guys? [00:02:06] Speaker B: And I'm Sav. Ciao. Buenos. Last week we wrapped up who you Selling For? By the Pretty Reckless. And we were both happy to get it because we both knew about the band but never really listened to it. Overall, not bad. I think it's, it's me personally, I like the heavier stuff. I think they're pretty good at that. And I mean, no matter what, I think she has a pretty good voice throughout everything. I think she's kind of the star in most of it in terms of her being pretty, pretty steady in her performance. And sometimes the stuff around it might be a little. Not that any of it was bad, but I think this was more of a, hey, let's try something like this. Let's try something like that. I don't know if their albums are more unified in sound than this was. I mean, again, I think it's probably a decent foray into what they do. But like I said, me, I'M a guy with the. I like the heavier stuff. So, Mark, what do you think? [00:02:57] Speaker A: I thought it was good. I liked it was 90s based. I like that the production wasn't, you know, using a lot of. Didn't feel like it was using a lot of, you know, tricks and samples and auto tune and all that kind of stuff. So it sounded a little bit throwback, which I kind of liked. So overall, I thought it was good. [00:03:14] Speaker B: Yeah. I mean, the production was good. The drum sounded good. I mean, again, her voice sounds good. Yeah. Curious to see what. What the other stuff sounds like, if it's more kind of unified or kind of like this, where they kind of branch out and do something like this and something like that. So this week is a cool week because we get to spin the baby wheel first, which, of course is for the new BET segment, but we get to spin the mama wheel as well, so that's always exciting. And, Mark, I think it's your turn for the. For the new bets, so I'll let you add it. [00:03:45] Speaker A: Oh, nice. Yes, I'm gonna spin. But first we have to do this. [00:03:49] Speaker B: In a world where new music is. [00:03:53] Speaker A: Not easy to find. Welcome to New Bets. Yes, we will be spinning the wheel again. I don't know what we're gonna get, but that's even, you know, more part of our shtick, I guess. And people who haven't been here before, if you're new, we spin the wheel to pick our main song, and now we have a new segment we've been doing. What for maybe, I don't know, 10, 15 episodes, something like that? Maybe. [00:04:25] Speaker B: Yeah, it's been a few. It goes back further than I. Than I remembered, actually. I was listening to one of the podcasts and we had already done it and actually forgot that we even had the song that we listened to. So, yeah, it's been a bit. [00:04:36] Speaker A: Yeah, there's a lot of music we listen to, so I think we've done 61 albums, so that's a lot of albums. Not as much as in the list. We'll never finish the list. It's 1300. We'd be here for the forever. [00:04:46] Speaker B: Yes. The list will outlast us. [00:04:48] Speaker A: Yeah, 100%. So, yeah, so let's. Let's spin the wheel. I'm excited. Whatever comes up, I'm going to take. So here we go. [00:04:56] Speaker B: Cool. [00:04:56] Speaker A: Can you see the wheel? [00:04:58] Speaker B: I see it. [00:04:59] Speaker A: All right. Here we go. [00:05:13] Speaker B: Oh, ho. Too sweet. [00:05:15] Speaker A: Do you know them? [00:05:16] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. Isn't that the guy who did a Take me to Church I don't know that's in the genre. [00:05:24] Speaker A: Yeah, like I said, I stuck some of these on here and I didn't know if they were going to be any good, but I guess we're going to find out. [00:05:29] Speaker B: I don't know if this is a song that. That was playing on the radio that was a pretty big hit recently. It could be. I just don't remember the. The title. It's got a little bit of a dance rhythm, but I'm not sure if this is the one. [00:05:41] Speaker A: No clue. So this is ho. Too sweet. [00:06:06] Speaker C: It's 10 o'clock before I say a word, baby, I can never tell. How do you sleep so well? You keep telling me to live alive to go to bed before the daylight. But then you wake up for the sunlight. You know you don't gotta pretend, baby now and then. Don't you just wanna wake her? Dark as a lake, smelling like a bonfire lost in the ha. If you're drunk, don't. I think it's great. But while in this world I think I'll take my whiskey leave now coffee back in my bed at three. You're too sweet for me. You're too sweet for me I take my worst skinny my coffin back in my bed at three. You're too sweet sweet for me? You're too sweet for me. I aim true in the grounds where I go. I work late where I'm free from the phone and the job gets done but you worrisome, I know but who wants to live forever? Babe, you treat your mouth as if it's heaven's gate. The rest of you like you're the tsa. I wish I could go along they don't get me wrong, you know your blood is a morning as soft as the rain. Pretty as a vine, sweet as a grape. If you can sit in a bedroom maybe I wait until that day. I'd rather take my whiskey leave my coffee back in my bed at three. You're too sweet for me? You're too sweet for me? I take my whiskey, my coffee black in my bed at three. You're too sweet for me? You're too sweet for me sweet for me? You're too sweet for me. [00:09:51] Speaker B: There you go. This song was number one, by the way. It's actually bigger hit than Take Me to Church. [00:09:56] Speaker A: I just read H. What do you. [00:09:58] Speaker B: Think it reminded me a little bit of kind of that Amy Winehouse vibe? A little bit, maybe. [00:10:08] Speaker A: Yeah. I don't know. [00:10:08] Speaker B: All right, the chord. I like the chorus more than anything else. [00:10:12] Speaker A: Well, he's an Irish guy. Right. So he has some folks and blues and some. [00:10:16] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:10:16] Speaker A: Soul and stuff in it. So, yeah, I mean, for that, it's okay. I mean, I don't think it's anything spectacular for me. It sounds like lots of other stuff that I've heard in that genre. [00:10:25] Speaker B: Yeah, it's fine. I think the production was a little off for me, honestly. Sounded a little. I don't know if it's just the. The way it was coming through my headphones. It sounded muddled. But then again, if you listen to Take Me to Church, that also has a little bit of a. I like his voice, though. [00:10:44] Speaker A: His voice is good. I mean, it's not for me. Nice to hear something new. [00:10:48] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:10:48] Speaker A: And so that's what this segment's about more than anything. So here's some newer songs. [00:10:52] Speaker B: So meanwhile, people like. What do you mean something? Your was number one. Where you guys been? [00:10:59] Speaker A: I don't listen to this kind of stuff, so I wouldn't know if it's number one or not. [00:11:02] Speaker B: I think I've heard it before, but. [00:11:03] Speaker A: I'm not sure I've heard his name. That's about it. [00:11:06] Speaker B: There you go. Another one in the books. [00:11:08] Speaker A: Yeah. This is a little disappointing for me. I didn't. I wasn't. But didn't do anything for me. But that's fine. Like you said, his voice is good, so at least that's a positive. And it wants to be a throwback, I think. Right? [00:11:19] Speaker B: Yeah, it's got a little bit of that vibe to it, I think. [00:11:21] Speaker A: Well, if that wheel did that to us, I wonder what the big wheel is going to do. Oh, boy. All right, so let's. [00:11:27] Speaker B: Well, she's like, I didn't put it on there. You did, man. [00:11:31] Speaker A: This is very true. It's my fault. I put that on there, so I got something back. All right, so let's do this. [00:11:38] Speaker B: In a world where new music is not easy to find. [00:11:44] Speaker A: Welcome to new bets. [00:11:53] Speaker B: So I see the. The big wheel on the screen now. [00:11:56] Speaker A: Yes. The big wheel is up. You can't even. There's nothing to read. It's just lines. That's so much on there. [00:12:01] Speaker B: Oh, no. It's just like if you stare at long enough, it just spins on its own. [00:12:07] Speaker A: It's hypnotizing. [00:12:08] Speaker B: It's like this illusion. [00:12:10] Speaker A: So I have to tell you, I added some really super cheesy 80s metal. A post came up with, like, these, like, 10 albums on it that I'd never heard of in my life, and I was like, oh, those have to go on the list. [00:12:22] Speaker B: But is this like, best unheard glam albums or something? [00:12:26] Speaker A: Yes. Did you see that thing? [00:12:28] Speaker B: No, I've seen a bunch of those. [00:12:30] Speaker A: This had stuff I didn't know about. There was stuff on there I've never heard of. [00:12:34] Speaker B: Cool. I don't. I don't know what I'm feeling. So I. No idea what she's going to pick. [00:12:39] Speaker A: That's what I want. [00:12:40] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:12:41] Speaker A: So let's do this. I'm excited. I want some cheap. I want one of those stupid things I picked. It's not going to happen, but that's what I want. [00:12:49] Speaker B: Good luck. [00:12:50] Speaker A: Yeah. Thank you. Here we go. Big Wheel time. [00:13:15] Speaker B: Wow. That's funny, isn't it? Now, see their disclaimer. [00:13:19] Speaker A: Is that the album from the new thing we picked? [00:13:21] Speaker B: No, that's their first album. [00:13:23] Speaker A: Okay. [00:13:24] Speaker B: That I know of. It had different covers and stuff, so you got to kind of pick which one you wanted. Well, this has the original version of that song that they did with what's her name from. What do you call it? [00:13:38] Speaker A: So this is interesting. We. We got one of their singles. Newer singles, and now we have their first album. Right. [00:13:47] Speaker B: I don't remember this too much. I remember being Yay and Nay on it or. Yeah. I'm gonna be honest. I haven't listened to this in a long time. [00:13:55] Speaker A: Well, this is the debut 2002. So it's what, 23 years old. [00:14:00] Speaker B: Wow. [00:14:00] Speaker A: It's crazy. [00:14:01] Speaker B: Yeah, we get a lot of that stuff here. It's like, how old is this? [00:14:05] Speaker A: No, I know. So who's on this album? Sean Morgan Lee, guitar. Dale Stewart, bass. Josh Freeze, drums. Nick Oshiro, drums, live. So Josh Freeze is on here, obviously. He's the new drummer in Foo Fighters. [00:14:21] Speaker B: Oh, is he? [00:14:22] Speaker A: Yeah, he's a drummer. Foo Fighters. Oh, you didn't know that? [00:14:24] Speaker B: I knew that name sounds familiar. [00:14:25] Speaker A: Yeah. So I guess this is like post grunge, alternative metal, new metal. I don't. [00:14:30] Speaker B: Yeah. Yep. [00:14:32] Speaker A: I don't know much about that. I know the name. [00:14:34] Speaker B: There was a song that I heard before that song, and there was a reason that I bought it. I don't remember which song it was. [00:14:41] Speaker A: Yeah. I've never had anything from them. Excited now, this is different. [00:14:44] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:14:45] Speaker A: How far did this thing go? Let's see. What kind of certification charts did this thing do? [00:14:50] Speaker B: I would think it did pretty well. [00:14:51] Speaker A: 92 on the billboard 200. It only went gold, but we'll see. Do you think I'm going to like this or no? [00:14:59] Speaker B: I think so. I mean, it's it's in that vein. I mean, I remember some of the stuff being pretty good on here again. It's just been a while that I've listened to it, so. But I think I liked it back in the day. [00:15:12] Speaker A: I don't think I've ever heard, so it's one of those things. For me. It's going to be brand new. [00:15:17] Speaker B: Well, I mean, you know, Broken, right? That's the song that they. [00:15:20] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, I think I know that. [00:15:21] Speaker B: I mean, that's a great song. I think the first song is good too. I don't remember. Like I said, it's been a while, so I'm. I don't remember disliking this record, so I'm hoping it brings back some. Some good memories. [00:15:32] Speaker A: The first song is Gasoline. [00:15:56] Speaker C: Last night I saw that beauty queen Watched her paint her face on I want to be that magazine that she base his life on don't want to waste her monthly blood Wanna get some on my love Wanna get some gasoline Burn her house down she's got nothing to say she's got bills. [00:16:30] Speaker B: So very Bush. Right? You can hear Bush in there. I think the production, I think, is pretty good. [00:16:36] Speaker A: What do you think about the drums? [00:16:38] Speaker B: Sound good. I like the drums. The drum sounded good in that new song. We did too. The newer songs, whatever it is, they're definitely not running it through the usual samples, I guess. [00:16:48] Speaker A: No, this is for me. I mean, produced sounds. It sounds pretty well produced. It sounds like. It sounds like a lot of stuff during that time. [00:16:56] Speaker B: Mm. Oh, yeah. I mean, it's of its time, that's for sure. I think this is going to be one of those ones where you're not going to sit there and be like, oh, this was. This is either. Oh, okay. Yeah, it sounds like this, but it's a good song. [00:17:07] Speaker A: Is it very Godsmack too? [00:17:08] Speaker B: I think Godsmack is a little bit heavier, I would say, but I can kind of hear that too. Yeah. [00:17:13] Speaker A: I'm trying to place like what I think it sounds like, but I just think it sounds like rock from the early 2000. Yeah, yeah. It's kind of what it is. [00:17:21] Speaker B: But I mean, actually. But I think it sounds like Bush too, though. Honestly, I think his voice sounds like. Like him as well. [00:17:27] Speaker A: Do you? [00:17:28] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. [00:17:28] Speaker A: I can't really place that Right. The moment. Godspike's first album Gotta be around the same time. [00:17:33] Speaker B: Yeah, I think so. I thought it was a little bit earlier. [00:17:35] Speaker A: I mean, he doesn't sound like the guy from Godspack. I'm saying the 98. Oh, okay. So it's a little earlier. Oh, that makes sense. All right, so let me read some lyrics. Last night I saw that beauty queen Watched her paint her face on I want to be that magazine that she bases life on I want to waste her monthly blood Want to get some on my love Want to get some gasoline and burn the house down she's got nothing to say she's got bills to pay she's got no one to hate except for me it's funny magazine that shows you how old it is. Only have to do a cell phone next, and then we'll know exactly how old this is. So it's not bad so far. I mean, I kind of. I like the guitar sound. I didn't really listen to the bass. I haven't really listened to the bass yet. So we'll see, I guess. [00:18:14] Speaker B: Yeah, I don't see a pick on the bass either yet. [00:18:16] Speaker A: Continue. Here we go. [00:18:28] Speaker C: Last night I saw that beauty queen she's getting high on Revlon I wanna be that magazine that she wastes her life on Wanna waste her monthly blood Wanna get some on my love Wanna get some gasoline and burn a house down she got nothing to say she got built to pay she got no one to hate except for beauty queen walk Watch her paint her face on I wanna be the one unclean that she wiped her ass on Wanna waste her monthly blood Wanna get some on my love Wanna get some gasoline and burn a house down she got nothing to say she got pills to pay she got no one to hate except for me she mach. She takes P for pain she's got no one to blame for me. [00:20:08] Speaker B: There you go. Quick and simple. [00:20:10] Speaker A: 249 short. [00:20:11] Speaker B: Yeah. So you didn't pick up on any bush at all than that, the way he was singing the. She's got nothing to pay, she got bills. Maybe that's where I heard him. I didn't really hear him in the verse as much, but I. I definitely heard it there. [00:20:25] Speaker A: I think it's more because of the way he doubles his vocals. Maybe that's what it sounds like because it sounds like he's the only guy singing. I'm not. I gotta look at this. [00:20:33] Speaker B: That's what it sounds like. Yeah. I would agree. [00:20:35] Speaker A: Well, no, the bass player supposedly does backing vocals, but. [00:20:38] Speaker B: But they could have similar voices, Right? Look at Lane Staley and Jerry Control. Right? [00:20:43] Speaker A: True. Yeah. I mean, it's good. I don't hate it. I mean, if this came, I wouldn't turn it off. I like it. It's Good. [00:20:48] Speaker B: Yeah. I remember liking this song, too, when it first. When I first had gotten this. And this was back in a still kind of an era where you heard one good song and the rest of it sucked. So I don't remember this sucking this album. [00:21:01] Speaker A: Well, that's good. [00:21:01] Speaker B: So that's a good, good thing. Yeah. I just don't remember all the songs. It's like I said, it's just been a while since I've listened to it, so. [00:21:08] Speaker A: And let me finish reading some lyrics. There's not much. Last night I saw that beauty queen she's getting high on Revlon I want to be that magazine that she wastes her life on I want to waste her monthly blood I want to get someone my love I want to get some gasoline I want to burn the house down and back to the chorus and then bridges. When I saw that beauty queen Watched her patron face on Want to be the one unclean that she wipes her ass on and basically the same stuff over and over and over. It's not a lot going on there. I mean, this is what was going on right then, right? And they got a little bit of a scream in there. To me, it's similar screams to Lincoln Parky, kind of similar screams. Not as good, though. But that's kind of what it was then, though, right? There was always that little bit of screamy vocal happening. [00:21:52] Speaker B: It was a little bit of the. Well, I mean, even in the new one, right, he's still doing it, so. [00:21:56] Speaker A: Yeah, his voice sounds good. [00:21:58] Speaker B: Yeah, it still sounds good. I mean, clearly, it's obviously the same singer that's still singing. And, I mean, give him credit. You know, 20, 22 years later, they show up on the Baby Wheel, still doing new music, and know that they're out there touring. So. [00:22:11] Speaker A: And the producer is Jay Bumgardner, so he's done albums by the Regulator Cedar, Super Chess, Ugly Kid, Joe Bush, There you Go, Helmet Seven, Does Papa Roach, Endwell, Cold Chamber, Drowning Pool, God Smack, Three Days Grace, Pod, Newfound Glory, Alien Ant Farm, Orgy. So he's kind of. He's kind of in that thing. So that's why it kind of. These things sound very similar, because maybe he produced a bunch of stuff for all those guys. [00:22:36] Speaker B: Yeah, well, I mean, again, two. It is of the. Of the era. [00:22:39] Speaker A: No, but I'm saying that some of the people were saying it sounds like he's produced. [00:22:43] Speaker B: Yeah, I'll say six on the lyrics. And they're okay. Music. Well, here's the deal. We still got the playlist going Right. When we do the records. And if it's under 7, it doesn't go on. All right, so I'm gonna say seven. I was gonna say six, but I do want it. I. You know, without a doubt. I would say put this on a playlist. I think it's a pretty good song. So I'll say seven on that production. I'll say seven. I mean, production was good. Arrangement is good. I mean, I'll say seven on arrangement. I like the melody too. Seven. It's pretty, you know, it's a good opener. It's simple, 249, in and out. What do you think? [00:23:18] Speaker A: Let's see. Yeah. Lyrics is six. Melody is six. It's fine. Seven on the music, seven on the arrangement, seven on production. It's fine. I don't hate this. I'm not saying, like, I'm super psyched right at the moment for this. It's not something I would turn off. It sounds good. I just want to see if they change it up a little bit and maybe come up with something I really, really like right now. It feels too samey same to lots of other things that I've heard. So I'm hoping that it changes up a little bit. I don't know if it does or it doesn't, but it's definitely not bad. And the production is old school. There's really not a lot going on. It doesn't feel like here anyway, so I give them. It's nice to have something that old because you kind of hear what production really was, and then you hear it now and you're like, oh, this stuff now is not great. [00:24:05] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:24:05] Speaker A: So, yeah, this is. This is good. I like this. Okay, so the next one is 69T. [00:24:20] Speaker C: Lonely on this white ground There are pads everywhere Chafing straight jacket won't die on them Save me smiling Jesus, get off that cross Hate me screaming myself I don't care if I'm lost Don't tell me that you're all better I don't care if you are don't tell me that you're transce. I don't care if you are. [00:25:11] Speaker B: What do you think of that? [00:25:12] Speaker A: I don't know. It sounds so much like something else. Like his voice on that first part. I can't place who he sounds like. It's not the guy from Bush, though. It's somebody else. There's pieces of other things in there. I'm getting very. I don't know. Do I say this? I don't know. I mean, I don't Hate it, But it just. It feels so stock to me. I don't know. I mean, is that a horrible thing to say? I'm not really getting it. This is not doing anything for me. Like, I like the riff a little bit. It just feels like what was going on, and it just feels like it's a copy of stuff that came before it. Like, too much of a copy for me. I don't know. [00:25:48] Speaker B: Yeah, it's okay right now. I do like that little thing that they're doing in between the thing. [00:25:54] Speaker A: There are pieces that I like, parts that I like. I just feel like it's such. It's so generic, man. I like the production. Don't get me wrong. I think the sounds sound good. I don't know if I like the chorus. I'm not sure about that. [00:26:07] Speaker B: Yeah, there isn't a ton of differentiation kind of going on. It's very in and out. I mean, again, though, if you think about it, it is of its time. [00:26:16] Speaker A: No, I know. See, the problem is, for me, like, if I can't tell you from the other band that sounds like this, then it's just. For me, it probably wouldn't be something I would listen to. I'm not saying that it has to be, like, so different, but, like, I want to know that's you. Like, his vocal could be anybody. It could be any band that sounded like that. He's got a little bit of Bush in there. He's got a little bit of Pearl Jam in there. Got a little bit of Creed. Creed. Maybe that's what I'm hearing. The vocals are very Creed to me. [00:26:43] Speaker B: I mean, I hear a little Cobain in there, but Creed, to me, just know they're one band that we'll probably all argue about because that's one band that I never, ever got into. [00:26:54] Speaker A: Yeah, I know. But, you know, here's the thing, though. You know, it's them, right? When they play. You know who they are. You probably don't even know. I need to know the song. [00:27:02] Speaker B: I. I kind of know his voice. I don't think that they did anything where I would say, oh, this sounds like Creed. I feel like, well, Creed sounds like this. You know what I mean? Like, that's how I feel. I don't think they. Me, personally, but listen, I don't know a lot of stuff. I know the hits, really, from them. There could be five great songs on the album that I've never heard before where I'm like, oh, I never heard this. This is cool. I just wasn't A fan of their hits or enough to ever listen to anything past what it was. So I always say to myself, the Creed comes up here. It's good because there's probably songs on these. On these albums that I've never heard that are probably, like, better than what was on the radio. And not that it was bad. I'm not saying that the songs were bad or badly written, but. But, yeah, I mean, listen, I'm gonna sit here and say, like, oh, what? You don't hear the originality in this thing? [00:27:51] Speaker A: I don't think Creed's super original. I mean, I think, you know, they hit the post grunge thing. His voice is kind of distinctive, and that's what I'm hearing somewhere in this guy. Now the problem becomes is that this guy's 2002, and what's Creed in the 90s, right? So that's been kind of done already. So for me, it's a little bit of a hard thing to process that this is still going on and someone's still trying to sound like that guy, even though maybe that's not what he's doing. That's what I hear. And whether I hear, you know, whether that's right or wrong, I don't know. I don't find this to be super duper interesting. You know, it's only two songs in. So I shouldn't be saying that. But what I get right now, the first song's okay. This song is. It's okay. It's all okay. It's not bad. [00:28:31] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:28:31] Speaker A: Again. [00:28:32] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:28:32] Speaker A: I don't think it's bad. [00:28:34] Speaker B: Oh, damn. [00:28:35] Speaker A: I know. All right, let me read some lyrics, then we can get back into it. Lonely in this white room There are pads everywhere Chafing, straitjacket. I won't die in there Save me smiling Jesus, get off that cross Hate me screaming masses I don't care if I'm lost and the chorus is, don't tell me that you're all better I don't care if you are don't tell me that you're trend setters I don't care if you are so interesting lyrics. I don't think the lyrics are bad. [00:29:01] Speaker B: Yeah, it's pretty good. [00:29:03] Speaker A: All right, let's see. Let's see if he can turn me around. [00:29:14] Speaker C: Feed me br. And water I won't die on them See me smiling Jesus, get off that cross Take me screaming masses I don't care if I'm lost Don't tell me that you're all better I don't care if you Are don't tell me that you're transfer I don't care if you are Stay away Take my break don't. [00:30:38] Speaker B: Tell me check A little break. [00:30:41] Speaker A: I mean, it wasn't bad. I would have liked something better there. This is around the time of really no more guitar solos. So it's not surprising that that's all they did. I do hear the little bit of Kurt Cobain in there. A little bit. Especially in the line, feed me bread and water right there. I was like, ah, that's a little bit of Cobain. That's what I'm saying. It's just. It's a jumble mess of grunge and post grunge stuff put into a blender. Which I guess that's fine because around the time frame, you know, grunge was only what, seven years prior? Six years prior. Some around there. [00:31:11] Speaker B: Yeah. I mean, I don't like this chorus. I really don't like the chorus. It just really doesn't go anywhere because I kind of like the verses, but when it gets that chorus, it's just so flat. So I think that's what's really not drawing me in more. I mean, I think I do like the verses, but the chorus is just like. [00:31:29] Speaker A: And on this song, you know, they come in with the heavy. The heavy chorus, but it doesn't feel as heavy. I don't know if maybe the verses aren't restrained enough. So what? The chorus comes in because the straight. The verses are kind of like middled. And then when the chorus comes in, it doesn't have the much of an effect as being. I don't know. Let's pick a. Let's pick a grunge song that does that. We'll stay with Nirvana, right? They were good at that. Bring it down. And then chorus can come in really hard, right. So the chorus feels a lot stronger because of the way the verses are. So these verses are so middle that when the other one comes in, it doesn't feel that heavy. I don't know. It's much heavier guitar sound. [00:32:08] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean, I like the first, but. Yeah, like I said, just that chorus. But even if it's heavier, just the melody itself of it just doesn't really do. It's kind of flat. You know what I mean? [00:32:17] Speaker A: So this has got to be about being in a mental institution. [00:32:20] Speaker B: So it's about the God complex that some people have. And not as an attack on religion itself. The songs about Sean's criticism of people who attempt to convert others to Christianity by claiming that they Are lost or that they are inferior to them. [00:32:36] Speaker A: That does not what it feels like to me, but okay, that's what he says. All right, let me read this. Lowly with my head bowed There are rats everywhere Feed me bread and water I won't die in there, there Save me smiling Jesus get off that cross Hate me screaming masses I don't care if I'm lost so that's the same. And then back to the chorus again. And the bridge is, say you will take my pills say you will Faking ill like this doesn't feel like a religious song to me or a Christianity song. [00:33:04] Speaker B: I mean, well, it does reference Jesus. I mean, the white room could be. I mean, it sounds obviously what it is, but maybe it's kind of like a metaphor again. I'm just going by what this says, so I absolutely see what you're saying. I'm just trying to connect it to what he said. [00:33:19] Speaker A: All right, let's continue it. Here we go. [00:33:23] Speaker C: Don't tell me that you're all better I don't care if you are don't tell me that you're bad we don't care if you are say your way Take my. [00:34:20] Speaker B: That really sounds like co right there. [00:34:24] Speaker A: Yeah, it's a very. It's a very mishmashy thing. [00:34:27] Speaker B: Yeah, listen, it's. It's Avatar. I mean, you. You listen to this and you're like, okay, you can have an idea of when it came out, without a doubt. Are there any more lyrics, or was it kind of. [00:34:38] Speaker A: It's kind of the same stuff over and over. I don't think it's worth reading. It's kind of the same. He says bedwetters instead of trendsetters of the chorus. [00:34:45] Speaker B: Yeah, I totally caught that. [00:34:46] Speaker A: And that's. And that's about it. [00:34:48] Speaker B: All right, you go first this time. [00:34:51] Speaker A: Oh, boy. I gotta go first this time. All right. I don't know. It does nothing for me. I mean, the production's okay. I'm gonna give that a six. I'm gonna do fives across everything else. I don't. I don't particularly. It does nothing for me. And, you know, whether that's just me, I just feel that it's so samey same. I feel so many different things from it. Does that make sense? Like, I'm not sure where it's supposed to go. The chorus doesn't go anywhere. It's not that. It's not that strong of a chorus. The verses are okay. That little break was okay. You know, I like. I like the effect on the guitar that they use and break. But, you know, other than that, like, this wouldn't be on my list of anything for me. What do you think? [00:35:40] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean, song was okay. I like the verses, and I kind of like that pills things at the. At the outro. But it's okay. I really. I don't. I don't find it that memorable either, honestly. So I will say six on the lyrics. I thought they were pretty good. I'll say six on the production. I don't know if I should. Maybe I'll do fives across too. I just think the first song was better. And again, I'm trying not to compare each thing to. To everything, but I'm trying to think if I should go six on the melody or the arrangement. You know what? I'll say five on the melody because of the chorus and that other part isn't that great. I'm gonna say six on arrangement. I thought it was arranged. Well, and then. Am I missing anything or. No. I mean, for what it's worth, I definitely remember the first song, and I don't remember this one. That first one definitely stuck out to me, and not just because it's the first one, I don't think. [00:36:37] Speaker A: Well, this next song is Fine Again. This is the debut single, so this song first appeared in the 2000 album Fragile, which was released when Cedar was still going by the name Sarin Gas. So this was kind of released prior, so we'll see. [00:36:54] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:36:55] Speaker A: I don't know if I remember this or not. If there was a single. What did it do? A Hot 161 Active Rock 1 Hot Mainstream Rock Tracks 3 Hot Modern Rack Track 6. I might know this. Do you know this? [00:37:08] Speaker B: I don't remember. [00:37:10] Speaker A: Okay. All right, here we go. Let's do it. Fine Again. [00:37:26] Speaker C: It seems like every day is the same and I'm left to dist. Cover on my own it seems like everything is gray and there's no color to behold they say it's silver and I'm fine again Try to stay sober Feels like I'm dying and I am aware now of how everything's gonna be fine One day too late I prepare. [00:38:33] Speaker B: I definitely remember this from, I think when 923 was still playing the. The rock music. I don't think. I don't remember if I bought this album blindly Back in the day when I had a little bit more money, it was okay. Hey, this looks cool. But I want to say that I knew of them because I definitely didn't know. Broken at that time. I had to discover that on my own. What do you think so far? [00:38:55] Speaker A: I don't know. It's weird. I just feel nothing about any of this. I feel nothing. It so wants to be everything else. I don't feel anything here that. That just sets it apart from anything Otherworld was going on or other bands that sounded like this. It feels like, here we go. This is the second tier of Whatever Happened. And it's kind of. They signed. They were signed because they sounded like this. [00:39:16] Speaker B: I definitely like this one better. I mean, I think that to me, this one has a little bit more sticking value, I think. I know. Listen, I'm not saying, oh, my God, like, what? This is revolutionary. I'm looking at it as on its own. So, yeah. I mean, again, could this have been other bands at the time? Yeah, but we're gonna say that about every era, no matter what. You know what I mean? There's always going to be stuff where you're like, yeah, I mean, look at. I mean, Pretty Reckless was doing songs that sounded like they were from the 90s, right? [00:39:45] Speaker A: Here's the difference. Here's the difference. I didn't feel like those songs were. I don't know, they didn't feel like they were copied. This feels like bad copy. That's what it feels like. It feels like this is a band trying to copy other stuff and they're just not as good as the other stuff that they're trying to copy now, whether that is Godsmack or Bush or whatever other post grunge thing that was happening at that point. I don't think the Pre Reckless sounds like this. [00:40:14] Speaker B: No, but they sounded like other stuff, though. I mean, I don't. I didn't find them original. You know what I mean? I didn't find. Again, I didn't see anything in there. I'm like, oh, wow. It was like, okay, yeah, like, this sounds like Alice in Chains or this sounds like this. But it's a good song. But listen, I. I hear what you're saying about this too. There's. I'm not saying there's anything here where you're like, oh, yeah, this is either. Or you could group this along with other bands, without a doubt. I just think that this is a better song. Me personally. They like that there's more melody here and there's kind of a good transition going into the chorus. But, yeah, again, I'm not going to sit here going, what? How could you not know this? [00:40:54] Speaker A: No, I know. How can you not hear the difference that I. The difference that I hear in the Pretty Reckless is that her voice makes it different here. I feel like there's too much of a copy of other stuff. It doesn't hit me the same because it's not. The voice is not unique. Like the music's not unique. Right. The music's not unique. So the only thing that could save that would be the voice I'm not. And in Pretty Reckless, that's very similar too. Although they do take some chances. There's more chances in that. Like from the first song on that thing, that was chance. There was a gigantic chance to take. Isn't that where they did like that, that faux Latin thing in the beginning? Right? [00:41:31] Speaker B: Yeah, I guess. I mean, I don't know that it's. [00:41:33] Speaker A: A lot more chances. This is safe. This is. Let's put out plain safe. Samey. Same post grunge rock. Who can we copy that? We kind of sound like. And we'll just make it sound like that. And I'll just kind of throw in parts of Bush vocals in here, parts of Kurt Cobain in here. So it's familiar enough where people are like, oh, I must like this. Because it's very familiar. Because it's super familiar. Yeah, but not in a good way. This is one of the few albums that I've really not had a very good positive vibe on. I mean, from the get go. This is three songs in already. I'm like, I would have been skipping this already. [00:42:14] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. No, I mean, I like this one. I would have skipped the second one. Probably. [00:42:18] Speaker A: The first one had me holding. The second one was, ah, this one. I gotta give it a little bit more. Let me read lyrics and then we can go and continue. It seems like every day's the same and I'm left to discover on my own it seems like everything is gray and there's no color to behold they say it's over and I'm fine again Try to stay sober Feels like I'm dying here. And the chorus is. And I'm aware now how everything's going to be fine One day too late I'm in hell, I'm prepared now Seems every Seems everyone's going to be fine One day too late Just as well now, supposedly, this is about his parents getting divorced. Now I'm assuming he's older when they're getting divorced because he said he's going to be sober. So this is not him being a kid. [00:43:02] Speaker B: Yeah. It doesn't sound like it's written from a child point of view. [00:43:06] Speaker A: No. [00:43:06] Speaker B: Then again, some people do Start drinking pretty early in life, so. [00:43:10] Speaker A: Okay, I guess. I don't know. Something to worry. Other stuff coming up after makes it feel like it's not that much. He's not that young, so. All right, let's continue. Here we go. Come on, guys. Save it for me. [00:43:38] Speaker C: A liar? Cause I can't stand to get this through? You say it's over? I can sigh again? You why try to stay sober when I'm dying? You? And I am aware now how everything's gonna be fine one day too late? I am prepared now since everyone's gonna be fine one day too late Just as well. And I'm not scared now I'm on must be show you you're never going to get away and now I'm not scared now well, now I'm not scared now no. [00:45:07] Speaker B: We waiting for a solo there? [00:45:08] Speaker A: No, I was going to say, did they just take the other solo from the other song and put it in here? [00:45:12] Speaker B: Yeah, it did sound a little bit like that. I think it's the guitar sound. [00:45:16] Speaker A: I do like the transition from the verse of the chorus. I think that's better than the last song. [00:45:22] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:45:22] Speaker A: And maybe the melody is a little bit better, but I don't know. [00:45:27] Speaker B: Hey, hey, listen, man, if it doesn't grab you, it doesn't grab you. What are you gonna do? [00:45:31] Speaker A: Oh, it's not at all. I just feel like, huh. Well, whatever. Can we get to the next song already? Are they gonna change this up on me? Are they gonna try to do whatever on it? [00:45:39] Speaker B: But you did like the one we listened to last week, right? Or was it last week? [00:45:44] Speaker A: I didn't hate that. [00:45:44] Speaker B: The new one. [00:45:45] Speaker A: I'd have to go back and listen to it again. [00:45:48] Speaker B: Yeah, I already put that song on my playlist. [00:45:50] Speaker A: Did you? Oh, good. [00:45:51] Speaker B: Yeah, I did. Hey, I liked it. I thought it was pretty good. I mean, the rest of the album actually kind of skipped through a little bit of the other. It's not bad. I think that is, like, one of the better songs on from what I've heard. [00:46:02] Speaker A: Now, don't get me wrong, if you want to say, would I take this over lots of stuff that's on now? Probably I would take this. Yes. I would rather hear this than some stuff that's happening right the moment. I don't know. I mean, it's very weird. Like, I'm not the kind of person who really wants to slag on things. This just makes me feel like, meh. I feel meh. [00:46:21] Speaker B: If you put yourself back in the day too, sometimes. Sometimes when you listen to this stuff afterwards, right. And I'm not saying it would make a difference. You may not have liked it if you remembered it then. You may not have liked it then either. But I'm saying, you know how sometimes if you put the song, especially when you've heard so much of a certain genre. Okay, well, I've heard this so many times before that this particular song isn't sticking out to me in that style. But yeah, I mean, again, there's nothing. There's nothing revolutionary going on here. And growing up in that era, hearing a lot of stuff and hearing the transition from the metal to the. The grunge to the post grunge to, you know, wherever someone may or may not have left off. I think I left off from kind of right after this when, like, when new metal came out and the rap metal, some of it was okay. And then, you know, those few months of scar. [00:47:17] Speaker A: Well, that was 90. [00:47:19] Speaker B: Was it really? Oh, God. It goes to show. Yeah, you're right. You're right. You're absolutely right. Yep, that's right. Jesus. And I know people like, school's been around forever, man. I know, I know. I'm not talking about the old Scott. [00:47:35] Speaker A: And again, there's stuff in there that I like. Not very much, but there's stuff in there that's okay that I like. I mean. But then the same thing happened. They signed every band that was ska and they were all not good. To me, this is the same thing. This is like post grunge. Like, post grunge is heading off here. And, like, I don't think you would classify this as new metal. Not to me. [00:47:57] Speaker B: Oh, no. I wouldn't consider this. When I think of new metal, I think like, corn. [00:48:01] Speaker A: And yeah, even Linkin park is sort of kind of has new metal parts in it. So I feel the dream in me expire and there's no one left to blame it on. I hear you label me a liar Because I can't seem to get this through and I think everything's the same. [00:48:16] Speaker B: How did corn come out? [00:48:18] Speaker A: 99, maybe? [00:48:19] Speaker B: Corn was 94. [00:48:20] Speaker A: Well, yeah, but when was their big stuff? Wasn't 94 though, was it? [00:48:25] Speaker B: Yeah, the first one was massive, man. [00:48:27] Speaker A: Really? Okay. [00:48:28] Speaker B: Oh, my God. We should re record this episode and be like, hey, let's do some research before we speak. Oh, my God. [00:48:36] Speaker A: Well, that's part of the charm. [00:48:37] Speaker B: Holy. [00:48:38] Speaker A: I thought it was later. [00:48:40] Speaker B: I thought it was too, man. It was actually early. I mean, it is definitely new metal, but I guess, yeah, even I Mean, life of agony must have been around this thing. But you know what, too I have to think about, like, when you mentioned Scott, I said that it was older, but when you said it was 90s, I have to think back to, like, who was I hanging out with and who was really playing that stuff. So now that I think about it, that made sense. And when I think about this, I'm like, oh, my God. Yeah, I remember so and so used to listen to this and I didn't hang out with certain people. Honestly, after the 90s fucking, hey, what a jumbled mess. Oh, my Lord. God, I hope somebody out there listening understands. [00:49:20] Speaker A: I'm sure there's a whole bunch of people understand. All right, let's continue. Here we go. [00:49:30] Speaker C: Nowhere now how everything's going to be fine one day two. I am headed on my prepared now since everyone's going to be fine one day too late. Just as well. I am prepar now. Same everything always again. [00:50:36] Speaker B: I like that one. [00:50:37] Speaker A: It's better. I'm going to go first. I need to get this. I need this guy to sign my system. [00:50:41] Speaker B: Get it out. [00:50:43] Speaker A: I think the lyrics are okay. I'm going to give it a seven. Melody is okay. I'm gonna give it a six. Musicianship, a six, Arrangement of six, and production of seven. I don't hate it. Here's the thing. It's recorded very well, it's played very well, it's sung very well. It just does zero for me. I don't know, it's. It's. It's like again, it's too. It's too derivative of everything else that was before it for me to go, oh, well, you know, usually even when, like, the music's a little bit derivative, the voice can make a change. So even though we said last time that they're pretty reckless, there's a couple things that sound like Alice in Chains, right? But it was really her voice that stood out. Even the things that we didn't like a lot. We said her voice saved this. I don't think you can say that here with him. I mean, his voice isn't bad. He can sing, but it's just so samey. Same. So same. This is better. This is probably the best one so far. [00:51:39] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean, with the pretty reckless, I just like. I like her style of singing. You know, I've always liked that deep timber thing going. I mean, this one, I'm gonna say sevens across. I, I definitely. I. I really like this one. Oh, play me a sound. Keep one eye open. It's Nikki Titty Baby Quintuple 7. Nice. [00:51:58] Speaker A: James Henfield likes it. [00:52:00] Speaker B: Yeah. See here? Yeah. [00:52:03] Speaker A: All right, well. So the next one is needles. Do you remember this at all? [00:52:09] Speaker B: I'd have to listen to it. Like I said, I really haven't listened to. I remember the first one. I definitely remember this one. I remember the second one, which makes me think that when I had the cd, I probably. It probably didn't hit me. You know what I mean? [00:52:22] Speaker A: Right. Here we go. [00:52:34] Speaker C: Never seem to find a reason to let you in again or forgive you Sick of feeling like I need you Knowing I never did But I miss you taking breakout and haters I remember all you said to me now fake him for shaking I'm feeling my memories are all st again Let me get inside your head Let me show you do I prepare Let me sing my needle down. [00:53:32] Speaker B: What do you think? [00:53:33] Speaker A: It's a little different. Again, his voice just. [00:53:36] Speaker B: I like his voice. I mean, listen, I think here's the deal, but here's the funny thing about. I agree with you. I'm not saying it's anything original, but when we put that new song that just came out this year, I would have known it was him. So there is something there. And you'll probably hear more in broken when we. When we get to it because it's. It's a very calm song. And this is without the. You know, the girl from Evanescence. There's something where. When I heard it, I knew it was him. Listening to it now, like, yeah, again, I can hear I. In this one. I also hear what's his name from God Smack for sure. I can hear that. But again, the guy from Godsmack sounded like Lane Staley in the first album. I think they kind of came into their own a little bit more on their second and third albums. Even though I did buy the first one when I heard it in tower Records, I was like, what is this? The only thing I wish, honestly, for this is that I wish to get the heavier guitar came in on that pre chorus. Even though I like the heaviness in the chorus, if they kind of did a little bit of the heaviness in the. In the pre chorus, even if they didn't go full on, I was like, oh, I think if they came in a little bit earlier with that, it would have been cool. [00:54:48] Speaker A: Yeah. Like I said, I'm not hating any of this. I'm really not hating it. I just don't know. It just doesn't. Doesn't really do much for me. Again, it just feels it feels same, insane. It's like lots of bands did the same thing and maybe better. I don't know. Maybe I'm just hearing this wrong. I. I very rarely have albums that are just so flat for me. [00:55:07] Speaker B: Well, I mean, what do you call was Five first, right. And that was kind of in this vein. Razor Blade, Suitcase. [00:55:14] Speaker A: The problem with that, though, is that there was better. They. We were expecting better. That's the difference. [00:55:20] Speaker B: Yeah. Better arrangements and better melodies. Right. That's. That's really where I think that fell flat. [00:55:25] Speaker A: You still knew it was him and you still knew it was Bush. It sounded like Bush. It just. There was. The songs just didn't feel like they were totally done. Maybe it's a little rushed and. You know, I don't know what. I know we talked about that probably then about what was going on with them and why it wasn't as good as it could have been. It's just. It's just different. I mean, you know, overall, is this probably better than that? Yeah. I mean, like, as far as. Like, the arrangement is better arranged. Like, the arrangements are good, but it's so. I'm. I don't know what to say. It's just so. Yeah, that's what I feel. I feel it's good. Would I. Would I. Would I not turn it off? No, probably not. Even my scores are not horrible. I'm not giving it twos and fours and stuff. [00:56:07] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:56:08] Speaker A: I don't know. [00:56:10] Speaker B: It's I, right? [00:56:11] Speaker A: It's I. It's I. [00:56:13] Speaker B: It's I. It's I. [00:56:16] Speaker A: So verse one is, I never seem to find a reason to let you in again or forgive you I'm sick of feeling like I need you Knowing I never did But I miss you Taking and breaking and hating I remember all you said to me now Faking, forsaking and failing My memories are all stained again and the chorus is, Let me get inside your head Let me show you I'm prepared Let me stick my needles in Let me hurt you again. You know, I don't think these lyrics are bad at all. [00:56:45] Speaker B: No, they've risen. I mean, in terms of. They feel personal. You know what I mean? They feel. I mean, it's Song supposedly about his mom and you feel like an honesty in them. Right? I think. I think that's a thing too. Though he does deliver words. Even though he. It isn't necessarily a unique voice. I think he does deliver songs with. I forgot the word I'm looking for. It's not integrity, but, I mean, it's not honestly, there's a. You kind of believe what he's saying. [00:57:12] Speaker A: I can hear that. I mean, I don't think the words are bad. Again. I just unfortunately think it's wrapped in. It's wrapped in the music and his vocal style. It just reminds me too many other things. His voice is. Yes. Maybe if you hear enough of it, maybe you can say, okay, that's unique voice. But if you just. For me, just coming off the bat, I don't see much here that grabs me and says, I'd like to listen to more of this. That's all I get. Like, the Pretty Reckless. I want to hear more of her. Even though everything on there is not very unique. Again, we said it again on the songs that we didn't like as much. We think that she may have saved the song or made the song not as. As bad because her vocals are really good. And again, he can sing again. I'm not. I'm not putting him down. I'm not putting the playing down. Josh Fries is a great drummer, so there's nothing really here to say, you know, bad. I would say the same thing about late 80s hair metal. Once you started to get to, like, the third, fourth versions of that. Right. That's what this feels like to me. I don't like that stuff either. No. But could there be songs that might like one or two things? Yeah. I'm not saying I hate all this. [00:58:17] Speaker B: Sure. [00:58:18] Speaker A: It's just. It's just like. I don't know, it doesn't grab me. It doesn't pull me into anywhere. It just. It feels. I can listen to it. It wouldn't be something that I would go, oh, I'm now a see their fan, because I've heard this. [00:58:29] Speaker B: No, I mean, me too. Like the Pretty Reckless. I'd want to. I mean, again, to me, I'd want to hear more of the heavier stuff. Like, that's the stuff that pulled me in. Like the other stuff. Again, I think I made the same thing. I'm like, oh, I've heard this. The heavy stuff. And again. Yeah. I mean, I think maybe the heavy stuff mixed with our voices where. That's the stuff that really grabbed me. I hear everything you're saying about this. I'm not going to say again. I'm not sitting here going, oh, come on. You don't hear how original this is or how distinct this is. No, but it was. It was of the time, though, too. I mean, I don't think this was really. I don't think this was late 80s. Hair metal. I think this was in the thick of it when this came out. You know what I mean? This. This was an era where it made sense that this is what you were kind of hearing. You know what I mean? So even though it's not. Maybe you don't find it as good as whatever. I don't. Again, I think this was more of what was going on then of that era, if that makes any sense. It's not one of those, oh, well, we have to sound everybody that sounds like this. It's kind of like this is what it sounded like then and then there could have been like another step after this. [00:59:34] Speaker A: Yeah, I guess so. I don't know. Yeah, it's just not doing anything for me. [00:59:38] Speaker B: I. I don't know. Listen, I thought corn was in 2000s or, you know, later 80s and it's 94. So why did say anything about time and who came out when? [00:59:50] Speaker A: Yeah, obviously that's hard. [00:59:51] Speaker B: So. Yeah. [00:59:53] Speaker A: All right, let's continue. Here we go. [01:00:07] Speaker C: In your town Knowing I never did I can stress it on Take out and break down and hang down I remember all you said to me now Faking for shaking and failing on my memories all stay Let me get inside your head Let me show you I prepared Let me sting my needles Let me hurt you again. [01:01:44] Speaker B: So they listened to me. [01:01:45] Speaker A: I was going to say it came. [01:01:47] Speaker B: In sooner and I was like. Like my eyes opened. I was like, oh, I think it sounds so much better like that when the. When it comes in heavier earlier. I mean, I definitely like it better now that I was liking it before. And I wasn't disliking it before either. My. I do think though, the drums are a little thin, so I like the pop of the snare, but I think they're just a little thin. I wish you were. There was a little bit more meat to them because it would just add to the heaviness. I mean, again, I wouldn't complain if my drum sounded like that. But in this case, I feel they're a little bit thin. But I like, you know, the cursing part, the heaviness. Me personally, Yeah. [01:02:25] Speaker A: I think it is better with the pre chorus being more distorted and not clean. So I think that does help it. When I heard it, I was like, oh, they listened to him? [01:02:32] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:02:33] Speaker A: 23 years later. Where were you when they were recording this? You should have said, hey, you should have done that before. [01:02:38] Speaker B: Well, you know what? They did it the second time around. I'm okay with that. They had a little bit of dynamics to that. So I'm okay that it was. Wasn't there the first time, but it was there the second time, you know, just to, I guess, change it up a little bit. So I'm. I'm okay with that. [01:02:50] Speaker A: Yeah. You would have been disappointed if they didn't do it the second time. [01:02:53] Speaker B: Yeah, I just. I mean, it just sounds so much better, and I really like them. The melody in that pre chorus as well. And I know, like, the chorus I didn't like so much the first time, but I liked it better now. And maybe again, because it did flow better because it was heavy going into it. [01:03:07] Speaker A: All right, so here's the next verse. I never reach my indecision to let you see again all I give you I'm sick of feeding your attention Knowing I never did I distress you. Then the same pre chorus and the same chorus and the bridges. You for killing me, me. You for killing me, me. Yeah. And then they inserted the same solo from the last three songs into this song again. [01:03:31] Speaker B: Yeah, I don't. [01:03:32] Speaker A: I don't. I mean, I like the effect. I like the little tremolo or whatever they have going on on that. That's not bad. But they really literally used it sounds like the same solo over and over and over. [01:03:41] Speaker B: Yeah, I. I didn't like that either. I'm like, dude, all right, like, enough already. I mean, who knows? These songs could have been written at three separate times, no matter what. They're straight three on the. On the. On the listing, straight four. I'm just at this point, I'm like, okay, either don't do anything or don't do that, or at least put it up in the mix. Because, I mean, I thought that was the other thing too. It sounds so low in the mix as well. So I think even if it was braids a little bit, like, yeah, it sees. It sounds the same, but if at a higher volume, I think it would have more effect. [01:04:12] Speaker A: I would rather have nothing than have that three times in a row, literally, from. Because the first song had nothing, which was fine, and then 69 t fine again in Needles. It could almost be the same solo. I know it's not the same solo, but it sounds like the same solo. [01:04:25] Speaker B: Well, it's got, like, the same effects going. Yeah, I mean, I. I agree. When I heard that, I'm like, oh, man, come on, not again. [01:04:31] Speaker A: I know. [01:04:32] Speaker B: Listen, if you can't solo, that's cool. Play. Play a melody that goes with whatever. Or go back. Go back to the verse. [01:04:39] Speaker A: Listen, I didn't mind when Nirvana used Like melodies from the song in the. In the solo. That didn't bother me. Yeah, this. It's just. This is not even that. I mean, it sort of. Kind of is, but again, this is. This is where the problem is for me. I think I do like this song a little bit better. Maybe there's parts of it that I like better. And again, I don't hate at all. It's just. It's too stock for me. Maybe it is because of the time. And I'm listening back on it now, I'm like. I just. That's probably why I didn't listen to this. All right, let's. Let's finish it up, and then we'll. We'll rate. Here we go. [01:05:10] Speaker C: Let me get inside your head Let me show you I'm prepared Let me stick my need Jose, let me hurt you. [01:05:39] Speaker B: I like that. That little. [01:05:41] Speaker A: His voice sounds like so many people. One time it's this guy. Next time it's that guy. Next time it's this guy, and I. One line, it's this guy. The other guy's that. That guy. That's why, to me, it fits. [01:05:50] Speaker B: The music, though. I mean, he sounded a little bit like Hetfield right there. [01:05:53] Speaker A: I thought, yeah, yeah, yeah. [01:05:56] Speaker B: But again, like I said, as much as he. I hear all these other people in him. Without a doubt. It's been. As soon as we heard that new song and I heard the singing, I'm like, I would have known anywhere that this was Cedar. I would definitely. I would have known it was him. Or I would have. I would have said it sounds like the dude from Cedar. So. I mean, maybe I've heard more of their stuff. I mean, I know I've heard other stuff besides this that could be it too. Maybe you kind of hear something enough times and. [01:06:21] Speaker A: Why don't you go first? [01:06:22] Speaker B: I like this one, man. I gotta say. I'm gonna say. I'll say six on the lyrics, even though he curses. But I gave seven two. I don't think they're as good as the one before. I'm gonna give a seven to the arrangement because they listened to me, or else I would have given it a six. I'm gonna say six in the production. Then again, I don't know, because then I kind of felt it all blended together. I don't know. It's kind of. It's weird. I don't know that. I mean, I really like this one. I'm gonna say sevens on the rest. I mean, I like this one. I don't know that I like it as much as the one before, but I do like it. So, I mean, I think I'd go back to this one and listen, this could be me, too, saying, oh, you know, it's. Yeah. Like, I've heard this stuff before, but maybe it's kind of been a while since I've heard it, maybe hearing it like that. Because, I mean, I didn't remember this one either. I'll be honest with you. Hearing it. But I thought it was. I thought it was good. What do you. What are you doing? [01:07:18] Speaker A: I think his lyrics are good. So I'm gonna give that a 7. Like I said, I'm not going to destroy this because I do think there are parts of it that I like. Melody. It was fine. Six music, six arrangement. I'm going to give seven because they changed the part for you. [01:07:34] Speaker B: Thank you. [01:07:35] Speaker A: And production. I'll say six again. Not hating it. Not saying that it's bad. I'm saying, for me, it just doesn't do anything to grab me and just feels like it's a mishmash of a bunch of different things put together, but not in a very original way. That's just how I feel. I don't know. It hasn't really done. Maybe the second side will do something for me. Maybe the end of the first side will do something for me. We got two more songs before the end of the first side. [01:08:00] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:08:01] Speaker A: So maybe they can. They can save that for me a little bit. [01:08:04] Speaker B: I mean, listen, I'm pretty sure that you're going to be hearing kind of what's been going on. I don't. I don't know that there's going to be anything revolutionary coming up. I could be wrong, but who knows? I don't know. Maybe there's a melody or something. The way he sings something that'll. That'll grab you differently, maybe. [01:08:21] Speaker A: Could happen. All right, so the next one is driven under. [01:08:40] Speaker C: Do you think I'm faking When I'm lying next to you? Do you think that I am blind? There's nothing left for me to lose Must be something on your mind Something lost and left behind do you know I'm faking? Do you know I'm faking When I'm lying next to you? Do you know that I am blind to everything you ever do? Must be something on your mind Something lost for me to find do you know I'm faking? Then she told me she got a gun it sounded like she knew you Then she told me she had a gun it sounded like she Knew there was. [01:10:09] Speaker B: What do you think of that one? [01:10:11] Speaker A: I do not like the chorus. I like. There's two verses in between. Two verses together. I like that. Like the guitar. Little guitar thing with the delay on it. That's pretty cool. I'm trying to figure out what in his voice drives me crazy. [01:10:24] Speaker B: So now I know. I think I know. And they're contemporary. Contemporary. [01:10:30] Speaker A: The dude from Puddle of Mud, maybe. [01:10:32] Speaker B: Maybe he's a little bit higher. I think what I hear. But again, it's. Listen, it's of the era. If you start looking at albums, rock albums that came out around this time, you're like, oh, it sounds like this guy. You know what I mean? So, again, I totally hear where it's, you know, of that era. My. I like that. I like the melody in the verse. But again, I just. They're two big verses right on top of each other, and I don't feel there's any differentiation. I wish it was something different to kind of separate them. That's my. Kind of. [01:11:04] Speaker A: That's my favorite part of the song. [01:11:07] Speaker B: Yeah. See, and the chorus is okay. I mean, it's okay. [01:11:11] Speaker A: I don't like the melody in the chorus at all. [01:11:13] Speaker B: Yeah, it's. It's so. Yeah, exactly. [01:11:14] Speaker A: It feels like it's jammed together. Especially that second line feels like it's jammed together. [01:11:19] Speaker B: Yeah, it's a little bit run on. Agreed. I'm not. This one's not grabbing me again. [01:11:24] Speaker A: I. I feel the Creed thing, the way he says certain lines. I'm like, I don't mind it when the Creed guy does it, but now when this guy's doing it, I'm like, I just don't like that. [01:11:36] Speaker B: Well, I mean, the Creed guy sounds like Eddie Vedder, though. His. [01:11:46] Speaker A: Maybe the songs are better. Maybe that's why I like the songs better. It's possible. [01:11:50] Speaker B: Yeah, it could be. I mean, again, I only know that. I only know the songs that whatever handful of songs of them were on the radio. So I always say to myself, there's probably stuff on there that you would hear and be like, oh, I wish I'd heard this or this. I like this stuff better. [01:12:06] Speaker A: I mean, I don't hate the radio stuff, so I don't hate it. [01:12:11] Speaker B: Like we said before, it's. I like. It's definitely not bad. [01:12:15] Speaker A: I like it better than this stuff. Personally, my personal opinion. [01:12:19] Speaker B: Well, I like it better than this song, I think. [01:12:23] Speaker A: I mean, I kind of like his lyrics. Like, I'm looking through his lyrics. I liked his lyrics. I just think sometimes the Melodies are not good enough. And I think sometimes the way he sings, just. I lose it. I don't know why. Because I'm thinking of other people when I'm singing it. I don't what I'm hearing in my head when he's singing. I'm thinking of too many other people. Maybe that's. Maybe that's my problem, too. All right, so. Do you think I'm faking? When I'm lying next to you? Do you think that I am blind? There's nothing left for me to lose Must be something in your mind Something lost and left behind do you know I'm faking? Now do you know I'm faking? When I'm lying next to you do you know that I'm blind To everything you ever do? Must be something in your mind Something lost for me to find. You know I'm faking. Then she told me she had a gun. It sounded like she used it once before on him, but they jammed that thing in some wacky melody. Then she told me she had a gun. It sounded like she used it once before. Oh, man. Of course. Not my favorite. [01:13:18] Speaker B: So, like I said, overall, it's not grabbing me as much as the. [01:13:21] Speaker A: I think generally I like his lyrics. Lyrics? [01:13:23] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:13:23] Speaker A: They're not very shallow. They seem like they mean something. Like you said. I just think everything all around is just not as good as what his lyrics are. And his voice just is just too much like everybody else. Too much like too many other people together. Like, I don't even mind, like, that the Creed guy sounds like Eddie Vedder. Like, this guy sounds like too many other people together at one time. He's Kurt Cobain. He's James Hetfield. He's the guy from Creed. He's Sully from Godsmack. He's. All these people together. [01:13:51] Speaker B: Sully. That's it. Thank you. I was gonna say Vincent. I was like. Don't say Vincent. I don't think that's it. [01:13:57] Speaker A: Vincent from Godsmack. Who's that? [01:13:58] Speaker B: Oh, look, that's. Maybe that's his real name. I gotta look it up. Maybe that's where I'm getting it from. [01:14:03] Speaker A: I don't know. His name is. I noticed. Sully. And that's all I know. [01:14:06] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:14:07] Speaker A: All right, let's. Let's continue here. We. [01:14:30] Speaker C: I guess you know I'm faking When I tell you I love you Guess you know that I am to everything you say and do Must be something on my mind there's nothing left for me to hide do you know I'M faking. And then she told me she had a gun it sounded like she. The feelings we can never face I need you I breathe you I can't go through this all again we have to succumb to the feelings we can never face I need you I breathe you I can't go through now Then she told me she had a gun Sounded like she'd used down once before Then she told me she had a gun it sounded like she used Bill once before him. Then she told me she had a gun it sounded like she Once before oh, man. She told me she had a gun she said she wants to use it only now. [01:17:02] Speaker B: I really like that bridge part. And honestly, the. The chorus, it's. It's that holdup on the. It sounded like she used it. If he didn't. If he continued with that first line melody, it would change the whole. The sound of the chorus. Chorus, it would just flow so much better. I. I don't know why he kind of picked that melody. [01:17:20] Speaker A: It's the Achilles heel of this song. [01:17:22] Speaker B: Yeah, it's because. I mean, honestly, I liked it after the first course, I liked it better overall. It kind of started getting me a little bit more. And I like that we have to succumb to. I like that part. I like the way it ends. I mean, I like the guitar stuff that's going on. I think it's produced well. [01:17:40] Speaker A: They didn't do the same solo again over and over. [01:17:42] Speaker B: He didn't really do it this time, though. [01:17:44] Speaker A: No, I'm saying they didn't. [01:17:45] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, he did. [01:17:46] Speaker A: And. [01:17:46] Speaker B: Okay. Yeah. You know, I mean, there's parts of the song that I really like. I like better the second time around. [01:17:52] Speaker A: Yeah, this is one of the better ones, I think, again. But his voice still throws me off. I'm gonna be easy on this. Sevens across. Except for the melody. I'm gonna give it a six just because I don't like the chorus. [01:18:02] Speaker B: Trying to think also, I will say, yeah, six on the melody. Because I do like the verses and I do like the other thing, that bridge. Yeah, I guess I'll do the same. We'll do the same. I don't think it's a seven the way the other ones are sevens. For me, I think it's more of a 7 of appreciation where. If it wasn't for that chorus. If I listen. Ever listen to this again, like this song, I can just. When the chorus comes, I'll just skip that. Skip 30 on. On Amazon, whatever it is, and I'll be past the Chorus, I'll be fine. Because I do think the rest of it is pretty strong. [01:18:38] Speaker A: Yeah. I mean, it's not. It's not as bad as some of the other things. For me, again, it's just. For me, his vocal is just. It throws me even on a song like this, which I generally sort of kind of like. I just hear too many. Too many other people mishmashed. [01:18:52] Speaker B: But if nothing else, it does fit the music. Right. For what it's worth, I guess. [01:18:58] Speaker A: I mean, it's their music, so, yes, it should fit their music. [01:19:01] Speaker B: No, but I'm saying it's. We've heard. You've heard good music ruined by some bad singing. So at least if nothing else, you're like, okay. I mean, the voice does fit the music. [01:19:12] Speaker A: Yeah. It's just. It's too much other things. I. I'm never going to be able to get past that, I don't think. It doesn't matter what happens. It just doesn't matter what happens. There's too much other things. I. I hear the Eddie Vedder in it. I hear the Kurt Cobain knit. I hear the Godsmack guy in it. I hear Creed in it. I hear too much other things. And maybe you say, well, that's his voice and that's what makes it unique. I don't. I don't feel that way. I feel that he's trying to do all these other things. Maybe I'm wrong, maybe I'm 100%, a million percent wrong, but that's how it just comes across to me. [01:19:42] Speaker B: No, I listen, I hear it too. It just doesn't. It doesn't ruin the song for me, though, I think, me, personally, I mean, again, I'm just putting myself back there. And this is. This is exactly what I expected to hear back then. So it's coming down to whether I like the song or not. By the way, Sully is first generation Italian on his dad's side. I think I knew that, but I just looked him up. Vincent has nothing to do with that, where the that came from. But he's actually Salvatore. I don't know. But he's Salvatore. [01:20:10] Speaker A: How do you get Sully out of Salvatore? [01:20:12] Speaker B: Second album, first album. Yeah, whatever. [01:20:16] Speaker A: Listen, I'm not saying I'm a big fan of Godsmack either. I'm not saying that I am. I'm saying that this just. To me, the vocals are just too much like other things. Too much. It almost ruins songs that I might like more because I can't get it out of my head. Every time I hear him say a line. I'm like, okay, there's the Creed one. Oh, there's the Kurt Cobain one. Oh, there's the. This guy one. Only one he hasn't copied yet, really, is Chris Cornell. He hasn't copied Lane Staley. But I'm waiting because it's got to come. All right, this is the end of the first side. This is Pride. [01:21:19] Speaker C: The world still my take out, break out. [01:21:40] Speaker B: What do you think? [01:21:41] Speaker A: I'm not sure. [01:21:43] Speaker B: I like. [01:21:43] Speaker A: It's different than the other ones. I don't know. There's nothing here that's gonna. I don't know if anything here is gonna fix this for me. The. The guitar is very rubber bandy sounding because it sounds like it's tuned down. It's different, though, than the other stuff, which is. Okay. [01:21:57] Speaker B: Yeah, he's still kind of doing that. You kind of hear the. That little high thing going on too. Like, I think. Well, he plays. They both. There's two guitars, right. The singer plays guitar and then there's another guitar player. [01:22:08] Speaker A: No, he's the only guitar player. [01:22:11] Speaker B: I think the chorus is catchy. I wish I. Just A little bit more force behind it. I want. Because I think I like the verses the way it is. I don't know. I like it. Like I said, I've been listening to a lot more heavier stuff lately, and this kind of reminds me in there, but it's obviously the production's a little bit better, so that's like. Yeah, it's kind of like modern ish, which is funny. 2022. [01:22:36] Speaker A: And in the chorus, I hear a little bit of Linkin park in the chorus. [01:22:40] Speaker B: Yeah, but I mean, again, you know, I mean, you remember Lincoln park came out, right? Did they. You know, when they came out, I didn't say like, oh, my God, what is this? I was just like, oh, I like these songs. I think he had a distinct voice. [01:22:56] Speaker A: Yes. [01:22:57] Speaker B: You know what I mean? I think that that was something that separated them and the way he flowed with the rapping and everything. [01:23:06] Speaker A: Yeah, it was. It was different. It was different. Again, this is much more rock than that is. [01:23:11] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. This is straightforward. Absolutely. Yep. [01:23:16] Speaker A: I'm not too sure if I'd like. When he goes, take it, break it, rape or forsake it and then the other part. In time you will find it, maim it, thrill it, shame it in time you will. I'm not sure if I'd like that yet. Maybe. Maybe that'll catch on. I'll hear the second one. I like it a little bit Better. And the chorus. Steal my pride Leave me blind Steal my pride. It's fine. [01:23:35] Speaker B: What part didn't you like in time? You. [01:23:36] Speaker A: Well, yeah, I don't know if I like. I don't like that. It's like he does that fast part, and then he breaks it up and he does the fast. But I think I almost might. Might want the fast part to go through the whole thing. [01:23:47] Speaker B: Yeah. The only reason what saved it for me was how we went back into it because I'm like, all right. He's dragging this out like the other thing. So I was like, oh, don't. But then how it flowed back in. I was like, okay. I didn't like the way it kind of, like midway, but then when it flowed back in, I'm like, all right, I do like that part. But, yeah, I agree. I wasn't crazy about that part when it first started, but I do like the way it flows back in. So it's, you know, six and six. [01:24:17] Speaker A: Yeah. All right, let's continue. [01:24:25] Speaker C: Breaking, break out, forsaken Take out Break out Break out forsaken you well, ste I am silent thank you. Brand new I am violent sound you find you I am violent. [01:25:49] Speaker B: What you think? [01:25:50] Speaker A: I think I'd like that. He doubled up to take it, break it, rape it, forsake it in the second verse. That's what I wanted to hear. But then I think he should have doubled it again, which he didn't do. I like it back to back like that. And then the. Then the slow part is fine. I didn't like one. And then the slow part. One, then the slow part. Like the two and then. [01:26:08] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean, I. I would like it better, too, if it kind of kept that thing going throughout. But like I said, only because of the way it flows back in. When it first comes in, I'm like. It's kind of jarring because of how heavy the other thing is. But then I'm like, at least it flows back in. Well, the melody. Whereas the chorus for that other one, that part was just. You know what I mean? [01:26:29] Speaker A: Yeah, it was. It was too much. Yeah. I didn't like that there. [01:26:31] Speaker B: That one part. That's all he had to do is kind of, like, go through it a little bit quicker. [01:26:37] Speaker A: He dragged it out. [01:26:38] Speaker B: Yeah. Half a bar quicker, man. [01:26:39] Speaker A: I like it. [01:26:40] Speaker B: I like it. I think it's good. I mean, listen, I like four. How many songs are we? Six. Yeah. I mean, I'm five for six. It's not. It's not terrible. I don't remember the songs. I mean, like I said, I. I remember listening to it and saying that I liked it when it came out. So this wasn't one of the ones where I said I was, actually. Wow. I remember liking this. And I know Frankie and I kind of talked about it last week. Not last week. Oh, my God. How many weeks ago was it? [01:27:05] Speaker A: I don't remember. Good question. [01:27:07] Speaker B: Yeah, close the show. [01:27:09] Speaker A: All right, so verse two is, take it, break it, rape it, forsake it Take it, break it, rape it, forsake it. In time you will find me May me, thrill me and shame me in time you will. And the chorus is, steal my pride, leave me blind Steal my pride and leave me blind, blind, blind now Leave me blind, blind, blind, blind now and the bridge. I like the bridge. I thought that was good. I am silent sent to find you I am violent sent to find you I'm silent sent to find you I'm violent sent to fuck you up and again, no solo, which is better than the same thing that they were doing over and over, so I'd rather have nothing. [01:27:43] Speaker B: Agreed. [01:27:44] Speaker A: Yeah. I wish there was a solo in there, which would be nice. I mean, I think a lot of these songs could benefit from that, but it wasn't the time of that, so I totally understand. So let's continue it. Here we go. [01:29:35] Speaker B: Whenever they play any kind of lead, just a different sound. [01:29:38] Speaker A: Yeah, I know. [01:29:39] Speaker B: I mean, that's definitely something. I mean, it fits the song and it sounded cool. If he had played that even without any effects, just a simple and higher, like, I think it would have hit harder. Who knows? [01:29:53] Speaker A: Hindsight is 20 20. I'm gonna make this easy again Nikki titty baby quintuple seven, zippity bippity bop. I think that's maybe one of my favorite songs so far. [01:30:05] Speaker B: Yeah, it was good. So I'm just gonna say six on the lyrics and seven across everything else. I'll do it like that. [01:30:11] Speaker A: I'm generally happy with his lyrics all the time. I'm happy with his lyric. [01:30:15] Speaker B: Yeah, I just think, you know, this one's obviously repetition and obviously. So I can't give it a seven like I've given some of the other stuff. I. Again, I understand your criticisms 100%. I don't. I'm not saying this is anything. Whatever. I'm just. I'm enjoying it, and I'm looking forward to the second side. I'm Cure. You know what I mean? Because I think there's some really good stuff in here. And some of the criticisms again. Yeah. Is it unique? No, but I put myself. Maybe I'm putting myself then and. I mean. But some of it still sounds like some of the stuff today, too, though. Some of this style and the things that he's using, his arrangements and vocals, it's still kicking around. And I'm not saying that Cedar is the one that started it. It's still out there. Some of it sounds fresh, like it could be now. [01:31:01] Speaker A: Yeah. I don't think I'm ever going to get past the vocal thing. I think that's just. I'm going to have to suck that up. Even on this song, which I like. I just. I don't. I can't get past the vocal thing. I don't know what it is. It's. Again, it's too familiar in multiple different places that it feels forced to me. Maybe it's not. Maybe it's just me hearing that and whatever. And again, what do I know? They have a record out. They have. They had stuff. They're still doing stuff. What do I know? I'm nobody. But it just, you know, in general, vocal style, whatever that style is, doesn't really do anything for me. It kills the enjoyment of the songs, I think, a little bit for me. [01:31:35] Speaker B: I mean, listen, you're not giving it that bad scores, right? I mean. [01:31:38] Speaker A: No, I mean, because I can't. Look in good conscience, I can't give it horrible scores. The first one, I mean, 69 T is only when I hit fives in. Right. Everything else has been sevens and sixes. Because realistically, it's played well, it's sung well, the arrangements are good, production is good, so I can't, like, destroy it. I'm just not a fan of his vocal styling. But can he sing? Of course he can. It would be stupid. You'd have to be a moron to say he can't sing and they can't play. You know what I mean? It'd be stupid to say that kind of stuff. [01:32:09] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:32:10] Speaker A: All right, well, hopefully next week we'll see what next week does for me. But I'm hoping. I'm hoping maybe I'll get used to his voice and it'll change it up for me. Right now. It does. Not really. Not really helping me, so. [01:32:21] Speaker B: Not that I ever really use this phrase, but I'm going to bet you dollars to donuts his voice is going to sound the same on the second side. [01:32:30] Speaker A: Sure it will. Maybe I'll get used to it. That's all I can say. [01:32:34] Speaker B: It doesn't. Yeah. I mean, again, it's but it doesn't. I think it does, for what it's worth, fit the music. So maybe that's. I'm kind of putting myself in there. But yeah, I mean, do I hear. Absolutely. But again, that was a style, too, back then, right? It was a little lower corner. Not that everybody was doing it, but it was very common. [01:32:54] Speaker A: I know. I got it. [01:32:55] Speaker B: All right. [01:32:55] Speaker A: Why don't you do your thing? [01:32:57] Speaker B: So we are part of the Deep Dive Podcast network again. Great bunch of guys took us in right away. If you want individualized podcasts about bands like Rush, Judas Priest, Uriah Heap, Tom Petty, Zeppelin, Queen, you name it, it's probably on there. Check them out. And mark, where can they find this? [01:33:13] Speaker A: On the Interwebs rock roulette pod, all the socials. Rockwelletpodcast.com Please go submit a new bets so I can get something better than the song we had this week. So it's me not just submitting stuff. I want other people to submit. If you're new, we released every week. Put us on the automatic download so you can get our episodes as they come out. And if you can rate us at any place, that'd be awesome, too. We appreciate all that. That helps us move up in all the algorithms so more people find us and we keep. We keep doing more of this. Yeah. Next week we'll see. See, maybe I can get past my problem. [01:33:43] Speaker B: Or you just get so used to it. [01:33:45] Speaker A: Yeah, I don't think it's a him problem. I think it's a me problem. [01:33:47] Speaker B: It's not you, it's me. [01:33:49] Speaker A: All right, guys, we will see you next week. [01:33:52] Speaker B: Ciao, ciao. [01:33:53] Speaker A: Later.