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[00:01:03] Speaker A: Foreign.
[00:01:15] Speaker C: Welcome back to another episode of Rock Roulette Podcast. That's right, the crazy ass podcast that took over 1, 500 albums, stuck them in a list, stuck them in a wheel. Typically every other week we spin the wheel. She picks a record for us and we go through a track by track. We talk about the music, the lyrics, the the production, the melody and the arrangement and we give it scores. Just a bunch of friends who love music want to do a podcast. And as always, we really, really want to thank anybody who's listening. We've had such a big uptick recently, the biggest we've ever had in listen. So whoever you are, thank you so much. If you're spreading the word, thank you so much. We really, really appreciate it. Tonight we are back to a duo, something that hasn't happened in a long time. We have Mark. Oh, hi Mark.
[00:01:55] Speaker D: What's up guys?
[00:01:56] Speaker C: And I'm Sav. Ciao buena s Mark. Tonight it's just you and I on this discovery and rediscovery y.
[00:02:02] Speaker D: It is just me and you.
[00:02:04] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah. And we get to finish up the debut album by Megadeth. Killing is my business and business is good. The general consensus last time was that the musicianship was pretty good, but the songs felt a bit rushed. The arrangement, I think the major issue. Would you agree with that, Mark?
[00:02:19] Speaker D: I think that the musicianship is good. I'm not a big thrash metal fan in general, but I can appreciate the musicianship being very good and the arrangements sometimes just a little wacky. Other than that, as a debut thrash metal album, it's not too bad and.
[00:02:31] Speaker C: You get two ends of it because you really didn't listen to Megadeth back in the day, Right. And we've gotten Euthanasia, which is on one side of the spectrum. And then you come to this, which is on the opposite end of the spectrum.
[00:02:42] Speaker D: I think I like the other end of the spectrum better.
Very Similar to Metallica, to me, just in the way it sounds. I'm not saying exactly. It's just of that time frame, if that makes any sense.
[00:02:52] Speaker C: I think it's heavier. I do remember it being kind of sloppy and saying, okay. They started perfecting their formula on the next one, and you could definitely hear tones of it. You and I had this conversation this week where I said the song Peace Sells, but who's buying? Probably wouldn't have been on and up. Like, they weren't there yet, but they got there pretty quickly. For what it's worth, I also think Ride the Lightning is my favorite metallic album, and that's their second, so that's where, to me, they perfected that formula.
[00:03:16] Speaker D: Yeah. Does make a lot of sense. I do remember Peace Sells, and I do like that song. I think that they kind of figured out the formula at that point, like you said.
[00:03:23] Speaker A: Cool.
[00:03:23] Speaker C: Before we get to that, obviously, we have our new BET segment.
[00:03:28] Speaker D: In a world where new music is.
[00:03:32] Speaker C: Not easy to find.
[00:03:35] Speaker D: Welcome to New Bets.
Okay, here's the new Bets wheel.
[00:03:58] Speaker C: Sammy Hagar. Encore. Thank you. Good night. A fitting name now that he stopped his tour, but he's supposed to be doing the residency with Satriani Arnoff and Michael Anthony. And that's who he recorded this with, right, Mark?
[00:04:11] Speaker D: Yes. This is supposed to be Eddie Van Halen came to him in a dream, and they wrote this song together and he recorded it. Sounds like the aliens from Love walks in from 5150 is what it sounds like.
[00:04:22] Speaker C: Is this what David Lee Roth referenced in that concert about ghosts or something?
[00:04:28] Speaker D: Nice. Yes, it is.
[00:04:29] Speaker C: But Hagar took it as a olive branch. He said he kind of felt it as a playful little olive branch, from what I read.
[00:04:35] Speaker E: One of my esteemed colleagues, he's a contemporary. He's got a great voice. He's got a great catalog. You all know Sammy Hagar, right?
And Sammy allowed. He described to the media about six weeks ago that the ghost of Eddie Van Halen visited and graced him with a song that he memorized and then went home and recorded. It's on the Internet.
I don't know what the odds are, but last night, the ghost of Eddie Van Halen visited me at the hotel.
I was watching the weather report, and he came in and he was laughing. His ghost was slap.
I said, what did you do now?
He said, dave, Dave, actually. You want me to do his accent? Just, hey, Dave.
He said, dave, you know that song I gave here go what now?
He said, it's actually inad de backwards.
Don't tell them.
This all stays in this room.
Laughed we shared a ghost cigarette Ghost Marlboro. Not one of those ass white ones, but the red white cowboy.
And I hugged my brother Ed. And I said, man, do I feel convinced you you. And he said, I miss you too, Dave. He said, but you know what? You should still go to hell. And I said, save me a seat in honor of ghost Stories.
Does she want us to play in a goddamn sing with me?
[00:06:49] Speaker D: I don't really think that's what it is.
[00:06:51] Speaker C: I don't know. I. But he didn't take it offense. I'm not sure. I haven't really followed up on it.
[00:06:55] Speaker D: I don't think David Lee Walt was throwing any kind of olive branch at him. It's nice that he thinks of it that way, but I don't think that's what it is.
[00:07:02] Speaker C: Maybe he was throwing olive hits at him.
[00:07:04] Speaker D: It's very possible.
All right, this is encore. Thank you. Good Night by Sammy Hagar.
[00:08:09] Speaker A: On Coming out of a dream Got a whole lot of melody Another dream become reality over in the corner.
Come out.
Thank you for the music thank you for the song thank you for the visit what took so long?
One little good time Fortune and amazing things don't feel the same I want to thank you in the song oh, my for the music thank you, thank you for the song thank you for the music we took so long thank you for the good time for things don't feel the same I got to thank you I got to thank you oh, no, thank you.
I want to thank you Come on, come on.
Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you. I.
[00:12:02] Speaker C: Not bad. It reminded me of this band. I don't know if you ever heard of them.
[00:12:06] Speaker D: Van Halen, you know, not really. Not to me. It sounds like Joe Satchani. He's a great guitar player. I would never say anything bad about what he plays because he's generally really good. This just feels like a. I don't know.
[00:12:17] Speaker C: It's an homage to him, though. This is not just straight up, hey, this has nothing to do with Eddie Van Halen. I would pick Eddie Van Halen in this, even if I didn't know who was playing.
But it's good. The musicianship is good. I like the production.
[00:12:31] Speaker D: It's basically chicken foot. I would rather them just do their original stuff. This feels just so. I need to write a song about Eddie Van Halen, and I'm going to say, oh, he came to me in my dream we wrote the Song together. First of all, he would never write anything like this. Number one. Doesn't sound anything like him. Doesn't sound like his playing. Doesn't sound like he wrote it.
[00:12:47] Speaker C: You sound angry.
[00:12:48] Speaker D: I'm not angry. I'm disappointed.
They should just do what they do. I know Sammy Hager wanted to do this and Joe Satchroni said, yeah, I'll do it. But it doesn't really sound like what they're trying to do. I know they're not trying to copy him. Just feels a little weird. He still can sing for almost 80. I mean, I can't really complain about that. Everyone sounds good and iron off. Can play the shit out of the drums. That little double bass thing at the end, which is pretty cool.
[00:13:10] Speaker C: He's a bit reserved, Sammy Hager, I would say not badly. Just. I feel like he's holding back. Here's what I can do. If I stay here, I'll sound okay.
[00:13:18] Speaker D: His voice is not the same as it was 30 years ago. He's almost 80.
[00:13:21] Speaker C: No, I'm saying, But it's good for.
[00:13:22] Speaker D: What it is as far as playing and stuff is really good. I don't particularly like the song that much. And I don't like the fact that we need to do a tapping thing at the beginning.
That, to me, doesn't really even sound like Eddie Van Halen tapping. And some of the chords, like, there was a part where it came up right before the verse came in. If they really were going to do that, you should have hit the horsey artificial harmonic. That's what I heard in my head. If that would have been Eddie Van Halen. He doesn't really play chords like that. They're just two different guitar players. Joe Satron is a great guitar player. I have nothing wrong to say about his playing. His playing is great in this. It's just I don't like the premise of the song. That's why I'm pretty positive David Lavroth was making fun of him. And this wasn't a. Hey, he's just being nice to me. I don't think that's true.
It's played very well. I just don't like it.
[00:14:02] Speaker C: I thought you were gonna like it.
[00:14:04] Speaker D: I mean, if it was not from the premise of what it was. And it wasn't called Encore. Thank you, good night. And about him having a dream about him and it was just a chicken foot song, maybe it'd be fine. And the premise that it's in. I don't particularly like it.
[00:14:15] Speaker C: Let me ask you this. Question real quickly before we go to the main album, then compare this to Tommy Thayer doing a space song, because I hear that vibe in your. Or. It's not at that level.
[00:14:26] Speaker D: It's not at that level because I don't think he's pretending to be Eddie Van Halen.
[00:14:30] Speaker C: Mm.
[00:14:30] Speaker D: But it's not that far away. I want to like it. I really want to like it. And the playing is really good. And Joe CIA Charani plays good. Everyone's playing good. Really? Even his singing is good. Everyone's good.
It's not my thing. I just don't know what to do with this.
[00:14:42] Speaker C: Had you heard it before this or no?
[00:14:44] Speaker D: Yeah, I've heard it a couple times before this, and it didn't do anything for me then.
[00:14:47] Speaker C: So it hasn't grown on you then?
[00:14:48] Speaker D: No. The tapping part at the beginning. I mean, do we need to do that?
I'm just saying, does Joe Satra need to do that? I know he's doing it because Sammy Hagar wants him to do it. I get it. They're buddies and stuff. Doesn't sound anything like a song Eddie Van Halen would have wrote. Sounds like a bad Sammy Hagar song. And to just tag the Eddie Van Halen thing on top of it. Maybe he really thinks he had a dream and he came and wrote the song in his dream. Maybe that's true. If you believe that, then you have to believe the song on 5150 is about aliens too. So you have to believe both of those things.
[00:15:15] Speaker C: I don't really know a lot of Sammy Hagar's solo catalog.
[00:15:18] Speaker D: Me neither.
[00:15:19] Speaker C: From what I know, this, to me, sounds like a good Sammy Hagar song. Wrong. If I had to compare to what I know. But I understand what you're saying.
[00:15:26] Speaker D: The players are better when Joe Tatron is playing guitar. How bad is it going to be? It's not going to be bad.
The whole premise and the playing and what it's supposed to be about just rubs me a little wrong. I like Sammy Hagar. We went to go see this band play. We like them. This here, I don't know, gives me the willies. As a van of Eddie Van Halen, this does nothing for me. I like Joe Satriani, but this is. I don't know. I have no words. I wish I could say more, but it just doesn't do anything for me. I heard it two or three times prior to this. It's never really grown on me. I appreciate the musicianship. Other than that, I could live with never hearing the Song again.
[00:15:55] Speaker C: Do you have any idea how this has been received by the Van Halen community?
[00:15:58] Speaker D: I think some people like it. Some people think it's Sammy Hagar. Just trying to use Eddie Van Halen thing, you know, you're going to have the Sammy Hagar haters and you're going to have the David Lee Roth people and they're always butting heads. Then you got other people like me who like both things. I didn't hate Sammy Hagar or Van Allen at all. There's a bunch of stuff I like in there. I don't have the words to say why I don't like it. Because it's not because the plane's bad. It's just rubs me wrong. Anyway, if you like it, let us know. You know, I don't like it. But if you don't like it or you do like it. And let's rubber stamp this. Here we go.
In a world where new music is.
[00:16:30] Speaker C: Not easy to find, welcome to new bands.
Shall we proceed?
[00:16:43] Speaker D: Yes, let's proceed. The first song on side two is Rattlehead.
[00:16:51] Speaker A: Oh, here I come.
Stand up Plant.
Listen.
Letting you.
[00:17:33] Speaker C: Straightforward and simple. I like this one. Clearly about Vic Rattle head. Say that 10 times fast. They're mascot. I like this one.
[00:17:41] Speaker D: Yeah, I like the riff. It's definitely a little bit better in the arrangement. It's a weird place for that solo, though. I think I felt weird even though I know it's the right place for it to be. Felt like it was in the wrong place. That makes sense.
And this is Chris Poland. From what I gather, it was good. This is typical what I think of mid-80s thrash to sound like. As far as that goes, I think it's good.
[00:17:59] Speaker C: Quick little thing. Rattle Head is another insanely fast and thr track from Megadeth's debut album with the title inspired by what lead vocalist Dave Mustaine's mother would say to him when he was head banging as a kid. Don't do that or you'll rattle something.
[00:18:12] Speaker D: Up in there that's funny. Or it's about the mascot too, right?
[00:18:16] Speaker C: Yeah. Vic Rattle Head is the mascot.
[00:18:18] Speaker D: I don't hate this. It's not as distorted as I would have thought it would have been. I would expect it. More distortion on the guitar. It's a little cleaner than I thought. Verse 1. Stand up and plant your feet. Listen, I'm letting off steam now. Throw your hands in the air. Let it loose. I don't care. Guitar solo and then the chorus is ratt.
[00:18:34] Speaker C: Very simple. Straightforward, this record so far.
[00:18:37] Speaker D: It's not bad. I don't hate it. Thrash is not my main thing, but I can appreciate when thrash is done well. All right, let's continue. Here we go.
[00:19:25] Speaker C: What did you think of the solo there?
[00:19:26] Speaker D: I thought it was good. It's very clean, fast, triplet stuff. It's not bad.
[00:19:31] Speaker C: I was going to say the same thing. Very clean.
[00:19:32] Speaker A: Clean.
[00:19:32] Speaker D: I'm very similar to Metallica.
[00:19:34] Speaker A: I don't.
[00:19:35] Speaker D: I see.
[00:19:36] Speaker C: I don't think so.
[00:19:38] Speaker D: The sound of the guitar solo, though, is very similar. That's what both of them did around this time. This is what a lot of thrash sounded like then. I'm not saying it's specifically Metallica only, but there was that sound that came around when thrash was beginning like this. A lot of bands kind of had to sound to me, again, not my main genre that I like. From the outside looking in, it all kind of sounds this way. I could be right.
[00:19:59] Speaker A: Wrong.
[00:20:00] Speaker D: Why? You don't think that. You don't think it sounds similar?
[00:20:02] Speaker C: I don't think it sounds like them. I think it's heavier, it's faster and it's cleaner than they are. It's also less produced. But this is. What version is this? This is not the actual original. Original mix we're listening to, correct?
[00:20:18] Speaker D: No, I think this is the 2002 one. But they didn't clean this one up as much as the next one.
2018, I think that was cleaned up even more. So I don't know how close this is to the original.
[00:20:28] Speaker C: Whereas this sounds like it's in studio, but there's no acoustics. It's so tight. The sound. To me that that's kind of what it sounds like. Whereas the Metallica had a little bit more of that Reverby sound.
[00:20:41] Speaker D: You wanted this to be faster and heavier, correct?
[00:20:45] Speaker C: Yeah. He was pissed.
[00:20:47] Speaker D: No, really? How would you get that from him?
[00:20:50] Speaker C: He's still pissed.
[00:20:50] Speaker D: He's still pissed. Supposedly he got past it, but I don't think he's got past it.
[00:20:54] Speaker C: I hope so. I. For his own. Right.
[00:20:57] Speaker D: They did that Big Four thing. Everyone was Kumbaya on that. But I don't really think that that's true. True.
[00:21:01] Speaker C: I'm not sure. I hope he's gone past it because they've created a legacy for themselves. And you and I spoke about this as well. They're just certain bands that if you compare yourself to them, forget it. You'll never be happy.
[00:21:13] Speaker D: Yeah, right. He'll never be happy.
He wants to be in Metallica. He wants to be the lead guitar. Player Metallica. He was, and he still wants to be. Regardless of how good Megadeth does for him, that's always going to be sticking in his craw.
[00:21:25] Speaker C: At least up until the movie. I haven't heard anything since, but I felt so badly for him. And I was in my head when I was watching that movie, I'm like, dude, come on, man. Okay, you're not as big as Metallica, but you've got a legacy. You guys have made some ridiculously great albums.
[00:21:41] Speaker D: He's not as big as Metallica. That's the problem in his head. He started that with them and they used a lot of his songs, supposedly, and riffs and stuff, and he didn't want them to. And he feels that they got big on his shoulders. Does that make sense?
[00:21:55] Speaker C: The way he was out pissed them off as well. As far as I know, they left him somewhere. I could be wrong.
[00:22:01] Speaker D: Was it in New Jersey?
[00:22:02] Speaker C: That's the exact story somewhere.
[00:22:04] Speaker D: You found your own way home.
[00:22:05] Speaker C: Yeah. Either that or they just left him with a bus ticket or something like that and just left.
[00:22:10] Speaker D: Whatever the case may be, I don't think he's ever going to get over this. As much as he tells you. Yes, no, whatever. I just don't think it will be regardless. Let me read the verse. A dose of metal. You need to bang your head till you bleed. Oh, it's time for snapping some necks. Slashing, thrashing to mega death. That's pretty cool. I like that. Let's continue. Here we go.
[00:22:29] Speaker A: You, you shake lose by stop your brain winning s Just make it fast. I move, rattle you. God damn it.
[00:24:45] Speaker C: Probably the most cohesive song. Even that separate bridge that changed the rhythm felt good. It wasn't. Some of the other stuff where we were talking about where this part was good and this part was good, but when you put them together, they kind of like. But here I. I thought that part fit. The bridge. Let's call it the soloing.
That's a really good song. I don't remember this one as much. I don't go back to this one as much. And discover and rediscovery. I'm glad that we got this one. What'd you think? So this one.
[00:25:11] Speaker D: This may have surpassed the other one is my favorite song. I think it's the most cohesive. All the parts fit together. Good. Guitar solos are good. I think this is the best one so far. Bridge, you, Your head is pounding with pain. Shake loose parts of your brain. Winning, sinning, beginning feeding the needing for bleeding, bashing, smashing, crashing Frying, annihilating you.
I like when he laughs. First three. There's someone back in the shadows. You feel though you can't see his eyes. He'll bash your head if you cross him. Ain't quite your average guy. Don't wear no letter to fit in. Don't wear no spikes to be cool. Don't want no woman beside him. Just make it fast, loud and rude. Rattle head. I'm a rattle head. Rattle your goddamn head. Yeah, I think this is actually a really good song.
[00:25:53] Speaker C: Do you want to go first?
[00:25:54] Speaker D: I'm gonna go first. Yeah. I'm gonna make it easy. I'm gonna do seven to cross. I think everything about what they're trying to do and where they're gonna head, this song is more in that than direction. It's more cohesive. I like the guitar playing. Even the fast guitar parts seem to have a setup. And he knows exactly what he's going to play. He's just not winging it. He's playing parts because he knows what he's going to play there. And I appreciate that. Sevens all across.
[00:26:20] Speaker C: Yeah, it's Steve and it's Quintuple seven. Nikki Titty baby.
[00:26:25] Speaker D: What do you think?
[00:26:26] Speaker C: I'm going to say the exact same thing. Sevens across.
[00:26:29] Speaker D: Boss. It's great to be here. Thank you. It's Quintuple seven. Just for Nicolo. Nikki Titty baby.
[00:26:34] Speaker C: In my head I said, I hope he plays Frank since he played Steve.
[00:26:39] Speaker D: That was the idea.
[00:26:41] Speaker C: Cool.
[00:26:41] Speaker D: I like that a lot. All right, next one is Chosen Ones.
[00:26:57] Speaker A: In Me.
[00:27:39] Speaker C: This song is about Tim the Enchanter, a character from the comedy movie Monty Panton and the Holy Grail. Have you ever seen that movie?
[00:27:46] Speaker D: Yeah, a long time ago.
[00:27:47] Speaker C: It's a John Cleese character who leads them to the cave with the rabbit.
That whole movie is amazing, but that scene is great too. Once you start reading the lyrics, if you remember the movie at all, you'll start picking up up on it. This one's not bad. I don't like it as much as the first one. I like the riff more than the melody.
[00:28:03] Speaker D: Yeah, I don't mind this one that much. It's a weird arrangement, though. It's just a lot of verse together. I like the little bass run.
[00:28:09] Speaker C: Bass is great in this.
[00:28:11] Speaker D: Yeah, bass is awesome. Okay, let me read lyrics because there's a ton of lyrics here. Verse 1. You doubt your strength or courage, don't come and join with me, for death surely awaits you with sharp and pointy teeth. Verse 2. An animal so vicious no others fought and won so on the fields of battle we are the chosen ones Verse 3 Human bones Blanket the dirt of the heathen's lair that we must pass this den of death Only path From here verse 4 but I walk in the light the time to die has come no one shall take my life I'm the chosen one it's awesome.
[00:28:40] Speaker C: It's very of that genre, but when you know what it's about, it's hysterical because it's this fantasy thing and you can tell it's this fantasy thing, but it's that comedic fantasy thing set to this heavy music.
[00:28:53] Speaker D: He has a good sense of humor, though, you must admit.
[00:28:55] Speaker C: Absolutely agreed.
[00:28:57] Speaker D: And obviously he can be a dick to bolt thing. He didn't get kicked out of Metallica just for drinking. I don't think think he had. There was like a personality conflict.
[00:29:04] Speaker C: I don't think he claims innocence in his struggles. I don't think he's one of those guys.
[00:29:09] Speaker D: No. I think he wanted them to talk to him and help him work it out and they just didn't want to do that. But maybe like anything else, maybe because there was so many incidents, they were just like, fuck this.
[00:29:18] Speaker C: But in general, he's had so many lineup changes in the band, so from his own standpoint, I don't think he sits there saying, oh, it's everybody else's fault than mine. I think you'll say, like, I'm not the easiest guy to get along with.
[00:29:29] Speaker D: All right, let's continue. We go.
[00:29:50] Speaker C: I like it. I'm digging it more.
[00:29:52] Speaker D: He changed it up a little bit.
[00:29:53] Speaker C: He did. I liked it better the first time, kind of around, but it's not bothering me. But it's good. The bass is really good, man. That's to me, what's really standing out.
[00:30:00] Speaker D: Yeah. I think in general, for the genre, it's a really good song. I think if you're into thrash, you have to like this. I couldn't see why you wouldn't first five. Black shadows fill the sky as the creature's eyes grow near Raise the shield of the holy pilgrim High into the air for six Heaven's powers fill my arms Onward now to fight I'm scent. Well, the beast is coming to put you to the test and I guess we're going to get a solo here. Here we.
[00:30:29] Speaker A: It's.
[00:31:08] Speaker C: To me, it felt that the solo and the rhythm underneath were kind of two different things going on at the same time. I feel that if they would have double timed the rhythm underneath the solo, it would have fit better.
[00:31:18] Speaker D: I definitely can tell the true guitar players now. From the last one to this one, it feels like Dave Mustaine just plays with reckless abandon. And the other guy is super duper clean. He's fast too, but he's not as clean. You can hear him almost kind of struggling to try to keep the speed going on. And the other guy just was.
And he just had no problem. I can definitely tell the difference now. In some ways, I like Dave Mustaine's playing better. He's definitely not technically as good as the other guy. I think that's kind of what happens with all his guitar players. Right. Isn't the second guitar player way better than him?
[00:31:48] Speaker C: I want to say yes. I want to say yes. I mean, when you have somebody like Marty Friedman in the band, how could you possibly not say that? Right?
[00:31:55] Speaker D: Marty Friedman, Yeah. Of course. Dave Mustaine's good. And some of the stuff I've seen him play, it's been good here. I think it's just a little sloppier than I was expecting from him. Not that it messes it up at all. It's just you can definitely hear the struggle sometimes, him trying to do that fast stuff.
[00:32:09] Speaker C: Yeah. Not as clean.
[00:32:09] Speaker D: Yeah. It was cool, though. Definitely not as clean. 100%. All right, here we go.
[00:33:08] Speaker C: Nice little bass break. He's a good bass player, Ellison.
[00:33:11] Speaker D: I like the way he plays. There's a bass solo and a drum solo at the end.
Everyone's getting a solo too.
[00:33:16] Speaker C: Little, little. Two second thing.
[00:33:18] Speaker D: It's more than you would normally get, I think.
[00:33:21] Speaker C: Good song. I liked it.
[00:33:22] Speaker D: Yeah, I liked it. I liked it a lot. I don't think I like it as good as Rattle Hat, but it's not bad. Okay, here's the bridge. Now this land is mine to pillage, rape and steal and take it well Never let your CR path I reign for now I stay I stay to kill Cool little bass solo. Then another verse. You doubt your strength or courage don't come to join with me for debt surely awaits you with sharp and pointy teeth Another verse. An animal so vicious no others fought and won so on the fields of battle we are the chosen one Interesting arrangement. No real chorus. Using the chosen ones at the end of every other verse line, I guess. Interesting. Why don't you go first?
[00:33:55] Speaker C: I will say a six on arrangement and a seven on everything else. I didn't like it as much as the one before, but I definitely really liked it. I've just dinged the arrangement a bit Bit. What do you think so far?
[00:34:05] Speaker D: I'm gonna do seven on lyrics, seven on the melody, seven on the music, six on the arrangement, and, yeah, seven on the production. I think that for the genre of what it is, and in the midst of this whole album, it's one of the better tracks. Seems like he's getting his groove a little bit better with keeping things together and not being weird with one riff here and one riff then just bashing them together.
[00:34:24] Speaker C: Could be one of those examples where the second side gets higher ratings than the first. Doesn't often happen.
[00:34:29] Speaker D: Next song is Looking down the cross.
[00:34:34] Speaker A: It Sam.
[00:35:27] Speaker C: Me.
[00:35:35] Speaker A: Now before they take me I might less in life now you know why death was summoned here tonight I'll recall my perils and kill me in pride no, I can't run away there's no place to hide Sam.
[00:36:52] Speaker C: I think this one's really good, too. That verse is so Megadeth, straight up. Can't be anyone else. When you hear stuff like that, you're like, yep, that's him. At any given time, that is Megadeth. And it's a cool concept, too.
[00:37:06] Speaker D: I hear a little Iron Maiden in the verses, too, for some strange reason.
[00:37:10] Speaker C: So I gotta check that out.
[00:37:11] Speaker D: It does sound like Megadeth. When I heard, I was like, huh, that's very Iron Manish. Maybe it's just because of the words and stuff that makes it that way. And the bass, again, is really good. And I think that guitar solo was Chris Poland and not Dave Mustaine. It sounded too clean.
[00:37:23] Speaker C: I thought it was very clean as well.
[00:37:24] Speaker D: This is about what Jesus Christ thought before he's getting crucified, or as he.
[00:37:28] Speaker C: Was being crucified looking down the cross.
[00:37:30] Speaker D: Well, it says before here, but, I mean, I guess it could be that. And supposedly it's referencing the Martin Scorsese film, the Last Temptation of Christ.
[00:37:37] Speaker C: He believes in God. I know that.
[00:37:38] Speaker D: Yeah, that's what I thought, too. I thought. I remember hearing him talk about that.
[00:37:41] Speaker C: He's thank God in his albums and he also talks about it in his book.
[00:37:44] Speaker D: Okay, intro now. Before they take me and my blessed life now you'll know why death was summoned here tonight I recall my pearls they'll kill me in prison pride Though I can't run away there's no place to hide Verse one, though. Too much to live for I owe enough to die Ask not for salvation My death shall mean their lives Hatred and guilt the altar they've built High priests of sin Destiny, fate the wicked one's gate Beckoning you in Beckoning you in. And guitar solo. So far I like it. Well, listen, tell me if you hear any Iron Maiden. I'm curious.
[00:38:12] Speaker C: I will.
[00:38:13] Speaker D: All right, here we go.
[00:38:22] Speaker A: Across. Breath from the crown now to you. This will come a beautifying past lens more nauseous than the stubborn's breath malevolently destined More corrupt than the mallets or coronas of thrown More disease and wind and the moonlight sun.
You have cause running for confession now you wish you had a God to stop your demolition crush the bones of.
[00:39:25] Speaker C: I'm still digging this one. The more it goes, the more I like it. There's changes in it. He does these little variations, but they're fitting better in this song than the stuff that was going on on the first side of my opinion. Do you agree?
[00:39:37] Speaker D: Yeah, it's definitely better put together.
100 doesn't feel so jammed together. Okay, lots of words. Here we go. First two. Down the walkways through the bloodstained town Looking down the cross bleeding from the crown led to stay to die beside the thieves Kill the king of the world to. And now you. This will come a putrefying pestilence More noxious than a serpent's breath Malevolently destined More corrupt than the malice of corazon. More disease to the wind of the moonlight sun. Putrefaction you have caused no need for confession. Now you wish you had a good. Stop. You're a demolition crushing the bones of the hundredfolds Swinging the judgment hammer. Man, woman, child no one is safe. The heads of the dead are the banner. That's a lot of words.
[00:40:17] Speaker C: Yeah, Good lyrics. Not simple.
[00:40:19] Speaker D: No, he's doing a real good job. He's using a lot of big SAT words in that last verse.
[00:40:23] Speaker C: Lyrically, he's. He's always been more accomplish complex than. Than Hetfield and Eldridge, for sure.
[00:40:27] Speaker D: Oh, yeah, definitely. He uses bigger words and his themes are a little more complicated. All right, let's continue. Here we.
[00:42:07] Speaker C: Do you think Mustaine did that last solo?
[00:42:09] Speaker D: I think that was him.
[00:42:10] Speaker C: I think so as well. I wanted to see if you agreed.
[00:42:13] Speaker D: The sound is much different. There's a little part there.
Did that sound like Metallica? What was that? That's Metallica song.
[00:42:19] Speaker C: Yeah, it could be. I was thinking, where. Where was that?
[00:42:22] Speaker D: Yeah, I was like, what Metallica song is that? I heard it go off and went, that's just weird.
[00:42:27] Speaker C: Look at him.
[00:42:27] Speaker D: Yeah. Why don't you look that up? I got a lot more words to read. Let me read words. Maybe you'll find it by the Time. I'm done. Okay, the next verses. And this was all you got. So. Don these broken wings the sands of time run out Bells of Hades ring Is this a nightmare? To unhallow thy name? Smell of brimstone dancing in the flame no. Help now as you fulfill his task Chief of evil has got you by the ass. Set free to sit upon the throne. Just a dream. You're weeping all alone and out Sh. Looking down the cross Speak no evil Looking down across Be no evil. A couple times and a. Whoa, oh, oh.
[00:42:57] Speaker C: Yeah. I'm not finding that did sound familiar. And I thought it was just going back to the beginning part.
[00:43:02] Speaker D: No. Well, maybe. But it went.
I was like, that's something. It's a possibility. That was something that was in Metallica stuff that he held. Right. It's possible. I don't know. It's what it sounded like to me. And then he changed it up. Like, toward the end, he changed the whole song.
Very interesting what he does here. I think the second side is going to have better scores than the first side.
[00:43:22] Speaker C: Very strong inside. Want to go first?
[00:43:24] Speaker D: Yeah, I'll go first. I think I'm going to do sevens across again. I think he did a really good job here. This side is becoming much better for me than the first side. Oh, yeah. Nikki titty baby. It's quintuple. Seven.
[00:43:35] Speaker C: I'm going to say eight on the lyrics and seven on everything else, unfortunately. You can use a bite for me, but I got to give an eight to those lyrics.
[00:43:43] Speaker D: Yeah, those were very complicated. Complicated lyrics.
[00:43:45] Speaker C: Really good.
[00:43:46] Speaker D: Now we get to the end of the album and Is this going to be a controversial thing? Because what this song is.
[00:43:50] Speaker C: You mean about the riff?
[00:43:51] Speaker D: Yes.
[00:43:52] Speaker C: Well, it was his riff, as far as I know.
[00:43:54] Speaker D: Yeah. He took it from the band before and brought it over there, but then he made it faster.
[00:43:58] Speaker C: It's definitely faster than Four Horsemen by Metallica.
[00:44:01] Speaker D: Okay. This is Mechanics.
[00:44:10] Speaker A: Sam World better than me.
I do it for my life.
[00:45:30] Speaker C: Are you familiar with a song by Metallica?
[00:45:32] Speaker D: Yes, a little bit.
[00:45:33] Speaker C: Because that's just like.
[00:45:38] Speaker D: No, this is way faster.
This is that song on crack.
[00:45:42] Speaker C: It's good, though.
[00:45:42] Speaker D: It is good. Could he have more double entendres in the song?
[00:45:45] Speaker C: Holy moly. This may be more double entendre than a Gene Simmons song.
[00:45:51] Speaker D: This is almost better than logging my fireplace.
[00:45:59] Speaker A: Place.
Baby, baby.
[00:46:07] Speaker D: Let me read it. Imagine you were at my station and you brought your motor to me. You're a burner. Yeah, a real motor car. Said, you want to get your oil Filled Made me shiver when I put it in. Pumping just won't do, you know? Lucky for you, Whoever thought you'd be better at turning a screw than me? I do it for my life. Made my drive shaft crank Made my pistons bulge Made my ball bearings melt from the heat oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. This is pretty good.
[00:46:33] Speaker C: This too is a sex song from.
[00:46:36] Speaker D: A thrash B. Yeah, seriously.
[00:46:38] Speaker C: At the time, people like, what does he mean? What does this mean? This can't be about sex.
[00:46:43] Speaker D: Supposedly it's about a story about a woman used to come to his gas station when he was working. Cuz I did look this up a little bit before we did it. This guy knew it was coming. All right, let's continue. Here we go.
[00:46:56] Speaker A: Night up on the floor Just want to be no luck for you I do it for my life it Sam love oh one more time you know I'm in love Say you want to get your heart fail you may say where I put it in mama just want to do it look up alone Whoever's watching me better turn us through than me I do it for my life.
Fuck yeah. Make my drive set crank make my distance move my walls for me oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:48:54] Speaker C: This is a great song to end the record. I really like his vocals in this. The tone in his voice. He's screaming, but there's this thing to his voice.
This a great song. This is a great side.
[00:49:05] Speaker D: It's a much better side than the first side. And then there was definitely. I heard the riff from Four Horsemen somewhere. Right before that, there was a piece of it that I was like, oh, yeah, now I know what this is.
[00:49:15] Speaker C: Well, that. Dun dun dun dun dun dun.
[00:49:19] Speaker D: Yeah, but there was a part before the bom bom bom bom bom bom bom. That part there, like right before that, that's what. In my head I was like, oh, now that's what that is. I remember hearing it. Now I'm going to read words but there's not that much to do. A lot of it's the same stuff. So I'm just going to read the verses. We're shifting gears hard when we took off pull tonight all four on the floor when we hit top end, you'll know it feels too slow. Next verse is I'm giving you my room service and you know it's more than enough. One more time. You know I'm in love Pre chorus, first chorus, and then he does a chorus where he goes, yeah, yeah, the cursing too.
[00:49:49] Speaker C: A few curses in this record. This side I don't remember cursing on.
[00:49:53] Speaker D: The first side, but there's a lot more here, I think. All right, so I think there's a solo coming. I think I'm a Stain solo. So let's hear. Here we go.
[00:50:10] Speaker A: It's.
[00:50:51] Speaker C: If that was missing. I think that's his best solo on the record. It's very tight, very cohesive, very fast.
[00:50:57] Speaker D: If that was him, Yes. I wasn't sure for a second. I was like, is that Chris Poland wasn't as struggling. It felt a little easier for him, but maybe because he had the song for a long time and he's been playing the song for a long time. See? Do you want to go fresh? Want me to go first?
[00:51:09] Speaker C: You go first.
[00:51:11] Speaker D: The lyrics are the only thing. They're creative, but I think I'm just going to give the lyrics a 5 and 7 and everything else, but they are very creative. Use of double entendre. I must admit.
[00:51:20] Speaker C: I was actually going to do the same. This is a strong side. I feel badly that Frank and Steve missed it. I think they would have been. If nothing else, Steve definitely would have been into it. Wow. I love it when we get these. When the second sides are stronger than the first.
[00:51:33] Speaker D: That's 100% true. Because I look at its scores and the scores on the second side are all sevens, pretty much. And I think the first side is more sixes overall. Again, an album I would never play on my own. I like when I get albums like this. First side I didn't like as much, but I do like the second side much more.
[00:51:48] Speaker C: Way more cohesive. There were traces of the upcoming Mega Death on the first side, but this, to me, is more of what I know from them. The very smooth transitions, the tight solos, the tight musicianship. I'm very happy with this second side and I'm glad that you got to see two sides of them.
[00:52:05] Speaker D: Oh, yeah, no, definitely, because you three Euthanasia and this is totally two different bands. I like the Euthanasia band a little bit better, but again, that's also a lot more albums into their career. They've had a chance to make Megadeth sound. When they got to that, had an idea what they were going to do. Even though they changed it around a little bit, it still sounded like Megadeth, just a little bit different. But I liked it. I like the second side as far as thrash metal record, which, again, I don't listen to a lot of. I do like the second side. I think it's much more cohesive. The musicianship's really good. The transitions, like you said, are really good. That's awesome. Discovery. Discovery for me.
[00:52:34] Speaker C: Rediscovery for me.
[00:52:35] Speaker D: All right, why don't you do your thing?
[00:52:36] Speaker C: We are part of the Deep Dive Podcast network. Like I always say, a great bunch of guys took us in right away. If you want individual podcasts about bands like Megadeth, Rush, Judas Priest, Tom Petty, right, Heaven, Halen, Zeppelin, you name it, it's probably on there. So check them out. And Mark, where can they find us.
[00:52:52] Speaker D: On the Interwebs, Rock with Lipod and all the social media. Rockwithlippodcast.com do polls, do merch. Putting a new bets. Put an album in. You know what to do. Put us on your auto download so you get our episodes every time they come up and rate us 5 stars. Wherever you do your podcast, that helps us get more listeners and to continue to do this, which is awesome. Next week is the Wheel spin again. What are we going to get? I don't know.
[00:53:13] Speaker C: Who knows? I wasn't expecting this. Wasn't expecting Oasis. I typically don't expect anything. We get.
[00:53:19] Speaker D: Well, you wanted something heavier.
[00:53:20] Speaker C: Yes.
[00:53:20] Speaker D: You got some heavy at least.
[00:53:21] Speaker C: Finally. Yep. I've been quelled. I think she needs to bow down to you, Mark, and give you that grunge record that you've been dying for.
[00:53:28] Speaker D: It's never going to happen. All right, guys, we'll see you next week.
[00:53:31] Speaker C: Ciao, ciao.
[00:53:31] Speaker D: Later.
[00:53:36] Speaker A: Sam.
