Episode 171 - Alice in Chains - Dirt - Part 2

[00:00:04] Speaker A: This is our musical reaction breakdown and commentary analysis of this song. Under Fair Use, we intend no copyright infringement and this is not a replacement for listening to the artist's music. The content made available on this podcast is for educational and informational purposes only, notwithstanding a copyright owner's rights under the Copyright Act. Section 107 of the Copyright act allows limited use of copyrighted material without requiring permission from the rights holders for purposes such as education, criticism, comment, news, reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research. These so called fair uses are permitted even if the use of the work would otherwise be infringing. Now onto the Roc Roulette Podcast. [00:01:03] Speaker B: Foreign. [00:01:15] Speaker C: Welcome back to another episode of Rock Roulette Podcast. That's right, the crazy ass podcast that took over 1,600 albums. Stuck them in a list, stuck them in a wheel. Every other week we spin the wheel. She picks a record for us and we go through it track by track. We talk about the music, the lyrics, the production, the melody and the arrangement and we give it scores. Bunch of friends who love music and want to do a podcast. Everybody who takes this trip of discovery and rediscovery with us every week, we really, really want to thank you again. The numbers have been really, really consistent. Spread the word, man. Let it keep growing. Reach out to us. Tell us what you like, what you don't like. Things you may want to hear or not here. Tell us to shut up. Whatever you want. Just tell us something. We really appreciate it. We are a trio tonight. We got Frank, My name is. [00:02:02] Speaker D: And I'm sexy. [00:02:10] Speaker C: Hello everybody. We got Mark. Oh, hi Mark. [00:02:13] Speaker E: What's up guys? [00:02:14] Speaker C: And I'm Sarah. Mark had been asking for the longest time. Grunge, grunge, grunge, grunge, grunge, grunge, grunge, grunge, grunge. And the wheel was like, nope, no, nope, nope, nope. And finally she caved in and gave him possibly the greatest grunge album of all time. Dirt by Alice in Chains, which we did the first side last week. Pretty much a damn perfect first side. Probably one of the best we've done on this podcast. I mean, we knew this going in. We all love it. It's got really high scores. Even Sickman, which we kind of gave possibly the low scores, was still pretty damn high. Mark, how happy are you? [00:02:52] Speaker E: I don't know. I'm still in shock that I got grunge. I never thought that the Wheel was going to do it. I've been asking for three years. It's a great album. I know side two is going to be great too. Side one was great. Everything about that album is awesome. So I can't wait till we get to do side two. [00:03:07] Speaker C: Some hidden gems on the second side. Maybe not outright as strong as side one. Frank, I mean, obviously this is a high ranking album in your theory, right? [00:03:15] Speaker F: 100%. It's one of my favorites. Alice in Chains is probably my favorite group of all time. Dirt, what can you say? This was the album that catapulted them to. To the mainstream, Pretty much. It really did define the run, Jera. Really well. Just excited for the second half here. [00:03:30] Speaker C: Me too. Before we get into that, we have our new Bets wheel in a world. [00:03:37] Speaker B: Where new music is not easy to find. Welcome to New Bets. [00:03:54] Speaker E: Okay, here is the new Bets wheel. [00:04:09] Speaker C: That's How I'm Feeling by Jack White. I think I know two songs by the white Stripe. Not because I didn't like, I haven't pursued them. Frank. You a white stripe guy, Jack White guy. [00:04:18] Speaker F: I think I know the same two songs you do. [00:04:21] Speaker E: You have to make that a threesome. I think I only know a couple songs from the White Stripes too. [00:04:25] Speaker F: They were inducted this week. [00:04:27] Speaker C: I mean, they're not bad. [00:04:28] Speaker E: I saw his thing. I don't know enough about them. I know Seven Nation army and maybe something else if I hear it. Other than that I know nothing. But I do know he has a vinyl pressing thing that he does three man records or something like that that he does. I don't know very much. [00:04:41] Speaker F: I think he's part of another group and his own thing called Rakatui or something. [00:04:45] Speaker E: Oh yeah, I think I've heard of that too. Well, cool. This will be something good for us. This is Jack White. That's how I'm feel. [00:05:10] Speaker B: When it's cold outside. [00:05:13] Speaker D: I need the. [00:05:14] Speaker B: Strength to stay alive and when I'm in my home I need the strength to be alone that's how I'm feeling that's how I'm feeling right now that's how I'm feeling feeling that's how I'm feeling right now, yeah. [00:05:50] Speaker D: Oh yeah. [00:06:09] Speaker B: And when I see you at night I need an electric light and when you call me at home you only hear a dial tone when it's cold outside I need the strength to stay alive and when I'm in my home I need the strength to be alone that's all I'm feeling that's how I'm feeling now. Now yeah oh oh yeah oh oh yeah oh oh yeah oh oh ye. And when the demons arise I need to walk towards the light and when. [00:07:23] Speaker D: I'm feeling this way. [00:07:27] Speaker B: I shouldn't have to be ashamed because that's how I'm feeling that's how I'm feeling right now that's how I'm feeling feeling that's how I'm feeling right now yeah oh, oh, yeah. [00:07:52] Speaker D: Oh, yeah. [00:07:56] Speaker B: Oh, yeah oh, oh. [00:08:00] Speaker C: Yeah Pretty much what I expected. I think. Not too bad. Definitely got that vibe. He has a pretty distinct voice, I would say, if I heard, I would like. Oh, that sounds like him. [00:08:08] Speaker E: I thought was pretty good. I didn't know what to expect. I didn't know if it was going to be like white Stripe Ish. I was very pleased. [00:08:14] Speaker F: Like most of his songs. Very short and sweet, to the point. Just the right guitar playing, the right loudness. [00:08:19] Speaker C: Very raw. [00:08:20] Speaker B: Very raw. [00:08:21] Speaker F: I remember this documentary. It was him, the Edge. I Forgot Somebody Else. And I think it was called It's. It Might Get Loud In Here. And it was just the three of them. Jam. And I forgot what the third guitarist was. [00:08:32] Speaker E: Jimmy Page. [00:08:33] Speaker F: Yes, Jimmy Page. It's been a long time since I've seen it. It's one of those. I was working in a project and it was playing in the background. I was watching it good. [00:08:40] Speaker E: That would make me want to listen to more stuff. If I like that, I think I don't really dive into his catalog. I didn't hate that at all. I kind of liked it. [00:08:47] Speaker C: I like the two songs. I know that. Seven Nation army and Conquistador. I think it's called whatever that one is. Are they on the list? They got to be somewhere on the list. [00:08:55] Speaker E: The White Stripes are on the list. I don't know if his solo stuff is on the list, but I might have to stick some of that on there. [00:09:01] Speaker C: He will be now. We're getting close. 1700, aren't we, Mark? [00:09:05] Speaker E: Yeah, we're getting there. Almost. [00:09:07] Speaker F: Almost. [00:09:08] Speaker E: If you like it, let us know. If you don't like it, let us know. Let's rubber stamp this. [00:09:14] Speaker B: In a world where new music is not easy to find. Welcome to New Bets. [00:09:33] Speaker E: Okay, let's continue. This is side two of Alice in Chains Dirt. And this starts off with Junk Head. [00:10:11] Speaker D: I couldn't add the best in a long time. A new friend turned me on to an old favorite. Nothing better than a dealer's eye. Be a convincing to buy I. [00:10:42] Speaker B: What's my drug of choice? [00:10:49] Speaker D: Well, what have you got? I don't go, bro. And I do it a lot. [00:11:05] Speaker C: Listen is my favorite deep cut from the album. Love this song. Always have learned to play the solo that's coming up. Not that it's difficult, but I was so proud of myself back in the day. I've always really liked this song. Like a lot of words on this album. Sad and unfortunately, detailing of the future. Mark, do you know this one? [00:11:23] Speaker E: Oh, yeah, I know the song. This is a foreshadowing of what is going to come. Unfortunately for him, he wrote what he knew and this is what he knew. [00:11:31] Speaker C: Not a foreshadow. I don't think it speaks specifically about death in this one, like some of the other ones do. It's a pro drug song. Look at the lyrics. You'll read it more and more as it goes on. Hey, here is my situation. You don't understand my situation. You're not in it. You don't understand it. [00:11:48] Speaker F: It's one of my favorite deep cuts as well. Super cool. It just carries along with the theme of the album. Depressing, angry. I want to hear the rest of it. [00:11:57] Speaker E: First one. A good night the best in a long time. A new friend turned me on to an old favorite. Nothing better than a dealer who's high Be high, convince them to buy Chorus what's my drug of ch well, what have you got? I don't go broke and I do it a lot. Just like some of the other songs. He tends to stretch out very short lyrics. I like the guitar riff. I like the drums, the bass. Everything's great. Unfortunately, the subject of this song is just depressing because you know he's going to overdose later on and he was in the throes of all his drug stuff. Now just an unfortunate thing. Let's continue. Here we go. [00:12:32] Speaker D: And I do it a lot Seem so sick to the hypocrite GR in the forest. But we are. The stone as junk isn't free. Are you happy? I am mar Content and fully aware Money status nothing to me. [00:13:24] Speaker B: Cause your life empty and fair yeah. [00:13:35] Speaker D: What's my drug of choice? Well, what have you got? I don't control and I do it alive I do it alive. [00:14:13] Speaker B: Sa. [00:14:53] Speaker C: That little guitar part is what first really drew me into this song. I just love that part. Made me go back and really, really appreciate the rest of the song. And it's funny because I learned how to play it. And I don't know what tuning this is, Mark. If this is standard tuning. I went back because I couldn't remember how to do it. And I watched a video. That's not how I played it, but it sounded right because I played to the record. I'm not Tone deaf. Do you know what the tuning is on this? If it' down. Did we talk about that? [00:15:17] Speaker E: Is it down a half a step? It's not drop D though. [00:15:20] Speaker C: Whatever I was doing. I don't know, maybe my guitar was out of tune, but it kind of matched the tunic, so who knows? The other thing, too that's cool is they stretched out the second verse a little bit. They added that little part before the chorus. I love this song. [00:15:32] Speaker E: It's a very good deep cut. A little depressing, kind of. He's just making a statement about how it's okay, I'm fine, I understand what's going on. Blah blah, blah, blah, blah. Trying to justify his drug addiction. Unfortunately, it will get him in the end. He could just never kick it. They didn't really tour very much, did they? [00:15:49] Speaker C: I don't know. [00:15:49] Speaker E: I don't think so. I think a lot of stuff got canceled because his problems. [00:15:53] Speaker C: You know what? That's why we didn't go see him. Damn it. [00:15:55] Speaker E: Oh, there you go. He's in a retort. [00:15:57] Speaker C: They weren't around to go see. [00:15:59] Speaker E: Verse 2. Seem so sick to the hypocrite norm Running their boring drills but we are an elite race of our own the stoners, junkies and freaks Are you happy? I am, man. Content and fully aware Money, status, nothing to me because your life's empty and bare and then back to the chorus and back to the solo, which was kind of cool like that. Had a little bit of a harmony thing. Very simple, but fits the song perfect. All right, let's continue. Here we go. [00:16:36] Speaker D: If you let yourself go and open your mind I'll bet you'll be doing like me and it ain't so bad. What's my drug of choice? Well, what have you got? I don't go, bro and I do it say I'll do it alive. [00:17:47] Speaker E: Nothing more to say Trying to make reasonings why he's doing it. It trying to justify it. It's kind of sad, though, if you think about it. [00:17:54] Speaker C: It is sad. [00:17:55] Speaker E: It sucks. Verse 3. You can't understand the user's mind but try with your books and degrees if you let yourself go and open your mind I bet you'll be doing like me it ain't so bad. Chorus and then the outro. Since this is your favorite one, why don't you go first? [00:18:09] Speaker C: I'm going to go nines across. Lyrically, as someone who is trying to put this in this kind of perspective, you can understand him trying to explain it. I don't really know Enough of him to know how much he really touted this. And let's say interviews. The fact that this song is 5 something. I always thought this song was about 3 minutes long. I was convinced and I looked at it five something. I was like, there's no way in hell. But it is, right? Mark, it's five something. [00:18:39] Speaker E: It's five ten. [00:18:40] Speaker C: This song feels like a three minute song to me. If that much. I love this song. [00:18:44] Speaker E: That's a high one. One. [00:18:45] Speaker C: Mark. [00:18:45] Speaker E: If I'm going to go nine across, but I'm going to go eight across. I think it's a great song. Subject matter on the side. Take the subject matter out of that a little bit. It's not as bad. I can separate myself. Writing what he knows Frank. [00:19:00] Speaker F: I'm going to do nines. He really does put you there with him. He really does make you feel what he's feeling in the lyrics, in his voice. The music just supports it. Overall, great jam for me. Nines across. [00:19:13] Speaker C: Trying to defend it, which is crazy. I've tried to defend of the stupid things I've done in my life too. But when you think about it, you're. [00:19:19] Speaker E: Like, okay, yeah, it is kind of sad. On that note, let's continue. In the sadness and the depression this is dirt. [00:19:48] Speaker D: Sat frustration or lack of self control I want you to kill me and dig me under I wanna live no one who doesn't care is one who shouldn't be I'm trying to hide myself from what is wrong for me for me. [00:21:15] Speaker C: You want to talk about him stretching out the words. This is definitely a massive case in the verse. It's cool. Obviously he does a lot of that stuff and it's a cool riff. Bass is really doing some cool underneath, holding it down because it's just really the guitar doing that simple thing. And by simple I mean it's like a chord riff. It's. It's not riff. [00:21:35] Speaker E: I like the riff. I think is great. I find it funny that he goes from the last song where he's trying to tell you how good drugs are and then now he tells you he wants you to kill me. I assume because he doesn't like his lack of self control, he knows he can't stop doing the drugs. In this one he's saying I just want to die is I can't stop this. And the other one, he's trying to promote it, saying, hey, this is great. You would do it. If you want to talk about where grunge is. As far as his depressing thing, I think Allison Chains is the top dog in all the grunge, depression, drugs. They have everything that grunge has all encapsulated together. His vocals are great, the bass is awesome. Guitar riff is awesome. Drums are great. [00:22:16] Speaker C: This isn't something that you say, oh, well, it's depressing for depressing sake. This is somebody who's going through shame and they're putting it in the songs. And it's honest and it's sad and depressing. But 92 me was, yeah, I'm depressed, too, man. Whether or not, even if it was merited or not, sometimes this stuff does kind of put you in that mood. And maybe even if you're not depressed, it starts kind of making you think, oh, you know, yeah, this shit's a little fucked up. [00:22:44] Speaker E: And this is also why you can't copy this. You can maybe make it sound like this. Not just writing, just to write. He's using what's going on inside him to do this. And you could maybe copy musically a little bit like this. But you'll never get the feel of this, because this is not just words for him. He's trying to figure it out. [00:23:01] Speaker C: No, this is a very honest album. [00:23:03] Speaker F: The two of you really nailed it there. No one captured the depression and the angst and despair during that time like Alice and James did. Especially when you have that addiction that you just can't escape. What makes it worse is when you have an addiction and you are intelligent enough and aware of it enough of how it's heating your ability to be successful and something that you're really, really good at. He's very aware that his habit is destroying his talent. And he's just slowly withering away. And that's what that you really hear. That depression, that anger, that feeling you just can't replicate. No one can replicate it. It's his life experience of what he's going through right now. And that's why I think this is one of my favorite bands, because of their authenticity. [00:23:42] Speaker E: And you would never have gotten this in the 80s ever. [00:23:45] Speaker F: Never. The 80s was all about partying and cocaine and doing all kinds of crazy shit. This is just someone who knows that they're just slowly. And realizing that they're too young to be going through this. And that their time is going to come a lot sooner because of this habit that they can't kick. [00:24:01] Speaker C: Not that you didn't have stuff like this, and you did at this time. This stuff was the mainstream. This was what took over for hair metal. This was obviously alternative. This was going on Already on the alternative in college stations. And then it kind of became the mainstream. [00:24:15] Speaker E: Well, all the drug abuse was going on during that time anyway. It's just no one was writing about the bad part of it. They were writing about how great it was and you're doing coke or whatever. But he's writing more about the depression. That's why I think people think the 90s is a little more honest in their music. Even though maybe that's not really the case. That the people in the 80s were probably honest about what they were talking about. Some of them, when it wasn't being let's all do the same thing. And it was easier to do the same thing here. It's not that easy. You can't copy this. [00:24:44] Speaker C: It also depends the situation that they're writing the music. And depending on how he feels felt at the time and what he was going through at the time when the lyrics were written. There's highs and lows with addiction. Some of my most introspective lyrics I've written buzzed and some happy stuff too, I guess. Depends too what situation you're in, what's going on around you. And obviously with addiction, depending on if you're drunk, if you're high, if you're stoned, you know what I mean? Whatever it is, I'm sure you get those highs and lows. [00:25:15] Speaker E: Very true, very true. Verse 1 I have never felt such frustration or lack of self control I want you kill me and dig me under I want to live no more Chorus One who doesn't care is one who shouldn't be I've tried to hide myself from what is wrong for me for me Alrighty, let's continue. Here we go. [00:25:47] Speaker D: On my toes. [00:25:51] Speaker C: I. [00:25:54] Speaker D: Want you to scrape me out from the walls and go crazy like you made me One who doesn't care is one who shouldn't be I tried to hide myself from what is wrong for me One who doesn't care yes One who shouldn't be I tried to hide myself from what is wrong for me for me. Sam. [00:27:30] Speaker C: What'd you think of the solo mark? [00:27:31] Speaker E: I thought it was really good. I liked his tone on that. I thought it was great. And just side note, he was using GNL Guitars who just went out of business. GNL Guitars was Leo Fender. After he sold Fender to cbs. I don't know what he's gonna do. Hopefully he has a lot of guitars. I don't know if he's gonna switch or he's gonna keep what he has has. Sure. That has to do With a little bit of the tone that's going on there. It's awesome. I thought it was great. Verse 2 is I want to taste dirty. A stinging pistol in my mouth on my tongue. Want you to scrape me from the walls and go crazy like you've made me. And then this time they do the chorus lines twice, which is different. Which I kind of like still haven't used the name of the song yet. I know it's coming up, but not in the chorus, which I always like. As long as it's done sparingly, I think it's cool. As much as I like his vocals and I like the way he sounds and all that stuff. If you kind of think what he was going through, it probably wasn't easy. Easy. And the mere fact that he could put this down in music, you would hope that would have been therapeutic for him. Maybe it was for a little bit, but obviously not enough. All right, here we go. [00:28:29] Speaker D: You, you are so special. You have the talent to make me feel like you. You use your talent to dig me under and cover me with dirt. One who doesn't care is one who shouldn't be. I try to hide myself from what is wrong for me. One who doesn't care is what should it be. I try to end myself from what is wrong for me. [00:29:57] Speaker C: It's funny, initially, that wasn't one of my favorites, but it's been a while that I've actually sat down and listened to the whole thing. It's pretty damn good. I don't think there's any bad songs on this record. Good stuff. [00:30:08] Speaker E: Verse three. You are so special. You have the talent to make me feel like dirt. And you, you use your talent to dig me and cover me with dirt. Bummer, dude. I'm going to go first. I'm going to say nine on the lyrics, nine on the melody, and eight on everything else. I think he exposes himself a lot in this song about really what's going on. I think it's an interesting window into what was happening with him and how he was trying to get clean. He knows he can't get clean. It just doesn't work for him. Frank. [00:30:34] Speaker F: Yes. I'm going to agree with you. I don't think there's a bad song on here, man. It's such a good album. There's a reason why it was such a big hit when it first came out and it became a hit again when it was re released be a remastered edition. It's just because it's really that good for this One for me. Nine across. I'm trying not to be so biased as a fan. It really is a great song. Again, just the lyrics, the music, his voice. His voice do really feel the pain through his voice. Just awesome. [00:31:02] Speaker C: I'm going to say eights across. I was gonna say seven on the lyrics. You're good. [00:31:09] Speaker E: Okay, next song. There's a band called this and I think that they got their name from this song. [00:31:13] Speaker C: They deny it. I just read it. [00:31:15] Speaker E: They deny that. [00:31:16] Speaker C: Yeah, that's what I just read. [00:31:17] Speaker E: Okay, whatever. [00:31:18] Speaker C: Which funny, because the first album sounds a bit like Alice and Chains. You listen to it? [00:31:24] Speaker E: Maybe not. [00:31:25] Speaker C: That's a damn good band too. [00:31:26] Speaker E: Yeah, they are. [00:31:27] Speaker C: All right. [00:31:27] Speaker E: This is God Smack. [00:31:45] Speaker D: Cannot father man who wonder straw that broke your backyard Cast all them as I do care Empty eyes and dad and Stan don't you know that none are flat to the lion? You think I don't find what you had? What in God faith have you done? [00:32:51] Speaker C: God smack is the term referencing a heroin overdose. There definitely references here. This could be my least favorite song on here. It's not bad. But especially too when the chorus comes in, the song feels a bit messy. Where Sickman had different parts that I felt they blended well together. Mark, what do you think of this one? [00:33:09] Speaker E: This may be the worst song on a great album. Album. I'm not too sure. I like the way he sings the verses with a little warbly in his voice. I don't really like that that much and it's just not as powerful as a lot of the other stuff. Maybe just because of the riffing and chorus. They use the wa there, which I don't know if I'm too keen on. It's okay. I think out of all the songs so far, it's not my favorite. [00:33:31] Speaker F: It definitely stays in par with the overall theme of the album. The message that he's trying to deliver. I do like it. It's probably going to be one of the lower ranking songs in terms of what we've heard so far. [00:33:41] Speaker E: Right. Verse 1. Care not for the men who wonder straw that broke your back you're under cast them all aside who care empty eyes and dead end stare pre chorus don't you know that none are blind to the lie? You think I don't find what you hide Chorus. What in God's name have you done? Stick your arm for some real fun. Like Frank said, it's on point with all the ideas on all the rest of the songs. They're not straying too far from what's going On. Let's continue. Here we go. [00:34:13] Speaker D: You've grown much fonder than for me that I don't ponder as the hair of one who bit you Smiling Bite your own self too and I think that you're not sl. I'll be here. What in God's name have you done st your arm for some revival? [00:35:32] Speaker C: I want to say something silly, Mark, and you tell me if I'm way out of line. Do you hear any Ace in his playing at all? Because I feel like sometimes I hear little bits, like he could have been an influence. And if you mentioned that, I apologize. [00:35:43] Speaker E: I'm pretty sure he was. Yeah, I hear little pieces, little things. [00:35:46] Speaker C: Not full blown, but just little things. I'm like. I could hear Ace kind of doing something like that. [00:35:51] Speaker E: I'm pretty sure he was a KISS fan back in the day. [00:35:56] Speaker C: Frank, what are you going to say? [00:35:58] Speaker F: Nothing, if you listen a little closely to the drumming. [00:36:03] Speaker C: Oh, boy, Here we we go. [00:36:04] Speaker F: I think we own the. [00:36:06] Speaker C: There we go. Come on, you can say it. I was waiting. [00:36:09] Speaker F: I don't hear Ace here at all. Although the style sounds familiar and I can't place it, I don't think it's so much Ace, but it's good. [00:36:15] Speaker E: Guess what? [00:36:16] Speaker F: What? [00:36:16] Speaker E: You would be wrong, because Ace really is a big influence for Jerry Cantrell. [00:36:20] Speaker F: Yes. [00:36:21] Speaker B: Wow. [00:36:21] Speaker C: Called it, baby. I was gonna say it in the last. Let me hold my tongue. Now I heard it again. I can't hold my tongue anymore. [00:36:26] Speaker E: And guess who else is a big influence for him? [00:36:28] Speaker C: Steve. Crash Summers or whatever that guy guy's name was. [00:36:31] Speaker E: Yeah, that guy from Pretty Boy Floyd. Yeah. Eddie Van Halen's another big, gigantic influence for him. [00:36:37] Speaker B: Some. [00:36:37] Speaker E: Two for two. Sorry I burst your bubble. [00:36:40] Speaker C: I like the pre chorus in this song. That's my favorite part. [00:36:43] Speaker E: You know what? I think you're right. The solo was fine. It was okay. It feels like the rest of the song, it's just not as up to some of the standards of some of the other songs we like. That's all. It's not a bad song. Verse two for the horse you've grown much fond ponder Than for me that I don't ponder as the hair of one who bit you Smiling Bite your own self too and then pre chorus is a little bit different. And I think that you're not blind to the ones you left behind I'll be here. Then the chorus is back to what it was. And then solo. And now we get to run this out. Here we go. [00:37:21] Speaker D: Night twisting, turning like a knife now you Know the reasons why can't get high or you will die or you'll. [00:37:47] Speaker B: Die. [00:37:51] Speaker D: What in God's name have you done? Stick your arm for some revival. [00:38:06] Speaker B: So. [00:38:07] Speaker D: Your sin has ways of done and God's name is smell back. [00:38:23] Speaker C: The chorus didn't bother me as much. The more it went on. I feel like the song found a little bit more cohesion for me. I have to say this is definitely my least favorite so far. [00:38:33] Speaker E: I think. I have to agree. I think the chorus got better. I think the pre chorus is good still with the warbly vocal. Other than that it has gotten a little bit better. Verse 3 so be yearning all your life Twisting, turning like a knife Pre Chorus now you know the reasons why can't get high or you will die or you will die Chorus what in God's name have you done? Stick your arm for some real fun so your sickness weighs a ton and God's name is smack for some Let me go first. I don't hate it. I'm just going to do Sevens Across. I think that's fair. It's still a good song short of that little vocal thing in the verses. I don't hate it. Frank the same. [00:39:08] Speaker F: I'm going to give Sevens across fits the theme of the album. Overall, I actually like this thing and I wonder if he's just in that part given the meaning of God smack. If he's just trying to replicate that convulsion state that you see some addicts get into when they're about to od. I wonder if that his singing style is supposed to represent. [00:39:25] Speaker C: I'll do seven too. I did like the song better as it went on and even though it's my least favorite, it's still not a bad song. [00:39:35] Speaker B: Yeah, it's Steve and it's Quintuple seven. [00:39:38] Speaker C: Nikki Titty baby. You're in spirit, Steve. [00:39:42] Speaker E: The next thing is just a little intro thing that's called Dream Sequence. Iron land. It's 44 seconds. I'm going to run it into the next song which is Hate to feel. Here we go. [00:41:06] Speaker D: Been too long so for love me what the f will it take? Fly myself in my way Mother Shaggy a Now a dog shake my name Blessed man down Paper face candy heart wanna wait Gotta change set a day Eat my cake with my place Stare at me with empty eyes and point your words at me Mirror on the wall will show you what you scared to see I can see I Sam. [00:42:32] Speaker C: Obviously that Iron grand thing is great. It's hysterical. That's Tom Maria from Blair doing that. They went on tour together and the crowd didn't necessarily like Alison Change. This was during the first album, from my understanding. But he said that they were tough, they played their thing and I think eventually started winning over the crowds. Good for them. Just a fun little piece. And then the red rum at the end. This song too, I Hate to Feel Feel has never been one of my favorites either. I always remember these two songs kind of the back to back. I'm like, there's parts that I like. I like. The pre chorus and the chorus aren't bad. And my understanding is Lane Staley wrote this all by himself. This and the next one. [00:43:08] Speaker E: It's a very interesting song. It definitely sounds like he wrote it. He actually plays guitar on this too. I don't know what parts of the guitar he plays. A lot of words for him, a lot of lyrics. This song may have the most lyrics out of any song on the album so far. Pretty good. [00:43:22] Speaker F: Not as high octane as the other ones. Still really good. Enjoyable to me. [00:43:26] Speaker E: Listen to Now I have to read lots of lyrics. Verse 1 what's gone wrong I can't see straight Been too long so full of hate Post verse what the will it take Drown myself in my wake Another shaggy da Now a dog shake my leg Plastic man Paper face handy heart what a waste Gotta change set a date Eat my cake lick my plate Pre Chorus Stare at me with empty eyes and point your words at me Mirror on the wall Will show you what you're scared to to see Chorus I can see I wish I couldn't see at all I can feel Wish I couldn't feel at all Hate to see Wish I couldn't see at all Hate to feel Wish I couldn't feel at all Pretty good lyrics, actually. I like them. And this is another one where he follows the guitar, so I'm assuming he wrote that and wrote the melody with the guitar. All right, let's continue it. Here we go. [00:44:22] Speaker D: Thin my blood down and I grow back to bed now what the hell Gotta rest aching pain in my chest Lucky me now I'm sad Little bug for a pet New Orleans gotta get pikushin medicine Used to be curious now the shit Sutton Dance all this time I swore I'd never be like my old man what the hand Time to face exactly what I am I can see. [00:45:39] Speaker B: Ram. [00:46:11] Speaker C: I really like what's going on behind the soul. Like the solo is cool too. A lot of feel. I like the Wawa, but just the way the accents come in with the guitar. No Guitar underneath and then it comes in and it's heavy. There's good stuff going on in this song. I want to say I'm not crazy about it, but then I'm like, yeah, but I like this and this. What'd you think of the solo, Mark? [00:46:27] Speaker E: Thought it was good. I like the Wawa. You did a good job. And I agree. There were pieces that I like and there are other parts that I don't like. Like as much. It's different when you change up the feel. It's not the same kind of feel. And the drums are doing some pretty cool too. [00:46:39] Speaker C: Drums and bass have been solid. Yeah, he's a good drummer. [00:46:42] Speaker F: I'm digging it a lot, actually, during that whole solo section. I don't know why Morphine came to mind. [00:46:48] Speaker E: I don't know why. [00:46:49] Speaker F: I'm pretty sure I'll figure out the reasons why the song can do this. But overall, great. I love it. Just the right solo. What's going on in the background is great. The bass and the drumming has been phenomenal throughout everything. Just dig in it. [00:47:01] Speaker E: Verse 2 so climb walls thin my blood now and I crawl back to bed now Post Verse number two what the hell Got arrest aching pain in my chest Lucky me now I'm set Little bug for a pet New Orleans gotta get pincushion medicine Used to be curious now this shit's sustenance Pre chorus All this time I swore I'd never be like my old man what the hey? It's time to face exactly what I am and chorus is back to what it was before it's all solo and now we're back so let's run it out Here we go. [00:47:33] Speaker D: What the hell Got arrest aching pain in my chest Lucky me, now I'm set Little bug or a pet New Orleans gotta get king machine medicine Used to be curious now the ship cuz the name all this time I swore I'd never be like my old man what day is time to face exactly who I am I can see it, I can feel. [00:48:19] Speaker B: It Ain't to see. [00:48:25] Speaker D: Feel it. [00:48:28] Speaker B: I. [00:48:28] Speaker D: Can see, I can feel. It. [00:48:58] Speaker C: I actually like that, I think. Because you think it would have gone a little bit further. Maybe a little drum filled which is like, all right, stop it here. Double time. Little Zeppelin thing going there with. [00:49:08] Speaker B: Starts. [00:49:09] Speaker C: Out I'm like, man. And then the one before it. The more it goes, I'm like, okay, I can dig this. I'd probably go back to this and see if I like it more. These are two songs that I really haven't gone back to. I've gone back to every other song on this other than these last two. Really hearing them fresh. My two least favorites. But there's definitely some good stuff going on. [00:49:27] Speaker E: Yeah, I like the ending and there's pieces of the song that I like. Not a bad song. It's just in a different feel. Some of the other songs, that's the only difference. That's okay. It's nice to change it up a little bit. That's maybe why it's a little bit jarring. Because a lot of the other songs feel very similar. Similar groove, similar tempo. These are just a little bit different. Why don't you go first? [00:49:44] Speaker C: I was going to let Franco first because I'm kind of debating. Frank, you go first. [00:49:48] Speaker F: This is one of those songs that as it progresses, you tend to like it more. Having heard it multiple times. I'm just used to it. Overall, me, it's sevens across. I just love the whole thing. The drumming, the bass. The music overall is just great. The arrangement, melodies, everything about it is just great. Keep one eye open. It's Nikki Titty Baby Quina 7 Mark. [00:50:06] Speaker E: I think I'm going to do sevens across again. There are parts that I like. It's just a little bit different. That's cool. Still don't think it's as good as some of the other stuff. Obviously not bad. [00:50:15] Speaker C: You can't start a fire without a spark but there's something that I guarantee it's quintuple 7. Nikki Titty Baby get another one Because I think I'm gonna go sevens across as well. Make it simple yes, that's right. It's me. I know I've been gone for a long time But I'm back and it's. [00:50:30] Speaker E: Quintuple 7 Nikki Titty Baby next one is angry chair. [00:50:58] Speaker D: Sitting on an angry chair Angry ones that steal the air Stomach hurts and I don't care what do I I see cross away hey See myself molding in clay Dancing me yeah I'm afraid Hey Changing the shape of his face. [00:51:39] Speaker C: This was also written by Lane Staley, which of makes sense when you think about that part. Second part of the. Part of the verse. This the kind of. He did something similar in the other one. The way it followed the rhythm exactly. This I remember. This was big. They used to play this on MTV all the time. This is definitely one of the strong ones. [00:51:58] Speaker E: This is a great song. I like this better than the last two. It's awesome. I like the feel. I like the stops. I like the bass playing. I like the guitar. I like everything. Guitar tone is awesome. Awesome on this. I like it. [00:52:09] Speaker C: Funny. Quick thing. My son plays the drums. He usually plays along to stuff in headphones. Obviously, if he plays along to this song, I know right away what it is. Can we play an Angry Chair? I was like, yeah, just like the next one that's coming up. I can always tell when he's playing that one. [00:52:24] Speaker F: Digging it. I just want to listen to it. I'll keep my commenting to minimal so we can get back to it. [00:52:29] Speaker C: Frank's like, shut the fuck up. Put the song back up. [00:52:31] Speaker F: Let's just play it. Exactly. Yeah. But I do remember this being one of the more popular songs that they used to always rock out on on MTV. [00:52:38] Speaker E: Verse 1. Sitting on an angry chair Angry walls that steal the air Stomach hurts and I don't care Pre chorus. What do I see across the way? Hey. See myself molded in clay oh, stares at me yeah, I'm afraid Hey. Changing the shape of his face oh, yeah I like it. We're gonna continue. Here we go, just for Frank. [00:53:00] Speaker B: Ch. [00:53:05] Speaker D: Shadows dancing everywhere Burning on the angry chair Little boy made a mistake hey. Pink Glad has now turned to gray all that I want is to play hey get on your knees and pray home and don't mar I don't mind I don't mind Here I don't mind Lost my mind yeah I don't mind I can't find it anywhere I don't mind. Corporate prison we stay hey I'm a dull boy Work all day so I'm strung out anyway. [00:54:51] Speaker C: Another interesting arrangement. They go to the chorus instead of going back to a verse or the main riff or to the solo. They do that little pre Chorus. Chorus and then go into the solo, which is cool. And they do a lot of that. They're very good at arranging and throwing the little curveballs. The chorus is actually pretty catchy when you consider the rest of the song. It definitely sticks out. [00:55:09] Speaker E: I think the arrangement's great. I like that they changed it up. The solo. There was a little bit of ace fraily in there. If you heard some of the parts at the end. I know Frank doesn't want to think that that's what it is, but. Sorry, dude. That's what it is. It was great. I always liked this song. I liked it. The chorus is a little lighter than the rest of the song. It kind of sticks right out. I think it's great. [00:55:26] Speaker F: Yeah. I'm gonna speak a little bit towards the end. I just want to dig it so. [00:55:29] Speaker E: Far Verse two candles red I have a pear Shadows dancing everywhere Burning on the angry chair Pre chorus Little boy made a mistake hey Pink cloud has now turned to gray oh all that I want is to play hey, get in your knees Time to pray oh Chorus I don't mind yeah I don't mind I, I, I, I don't mind yeah I don't mind I, I, I, I lost my mind yeah but I don't mind I, I, I can't find it anywhere I don't mind I, I, I and then another pre chorus right before the solo. Corporate prison we stay hey I'm a dull boy Work all day oh, so I'm strung out anyway hey solo. And now, just for Frank, we're gonna play it out. And here we go. [00:56:13] Speaker D: Loneliness is not a fact Feel the pain is where I praise Serenity is far away so my reflection of craze so little hope that I died home. [00:56:36] Speaker B: Feed me your lives Open wide Weight. [00:56:40] Speaker D: Of my heart not the sad zone after don't mind here I don't mind I don't mind here I don't mind I lost my mind here I don't mind I can't find it anywhere I don't mind I. Pink cloud has now turned to gray all that I want is a flame get on your knees and play, boy. [00:58:01] Speaker C: The end is interesting too. They could have faded out with the chorus or just kind of gone to the main riff or the beat, but they threw in that pre chorus thing again. A lot going on in most of these songs. There really is a lot going on with what they do. I mean, they were really, really great songwriters. [00:58:16] Speaker E: I like the end. I like the drums at the end. You wouldn't expect that to happen, which was pretty cool. I always like when changes happen like that and when it's not overused. Verse 3. Loneliness is not a phase Field of pain is where I graze Serenity is far away Pre chorus Saw my reflection and cried hey. So little hope that I died oh female eyes open wide hey. Weight of my heart not the size O chorus again. And the outro is. Pink cloud has now turned to gray All I want to do is play get on your knees Time to pray, boy. Frank, go ahead. [00:58:49] Speaker C: Frank, you go first again. Well, you didn't talk the whole time, man. Come on. [00:58:55] Speaker F: Because I was listening to it. I was just rocking out. I mean, hey, listen, this is a great song. Wonder if this was their second release from the album. I don't remember again. This is great song. Used to rock to it every time I played on mtv. For me, I'm going to give it nines of crazy cross lyrics. Great music. Everything about it's great. Even right down to his ace influence. Guitar playing. Great. There you go, Mark. [00:59:18] Speaker C: Mark, you go next, because I'm still not sure. [00:59:20] Speaker E: I'm not too sure either. [00:59:21] Speaker C: Sorry. Put you on the spot. [00:59:23] Speaker E: I'm gonna say nine on lyrics, nine on melody, nine on music, ten on arrangement. Because I like the arrangement a lot. I'm gonna say 10 on production. It sounds awesome. I like his vocals. I like the way this whole thing is produced. I like the feel of the song. It may be one of my favorite songs on the album. Saf. [00:59:39] Speaker C: I'll make it easy. I'll go nice lines across. Great song. Believe it or not, there was one point where I wasn't too crazy about this song. It just kind of grew and grew on me. And now hearing it fresh again recently, I grew to appreciate all the different parts. And hearing it now, forgot just how well arranged and everything was, how they did everything. Just an amazing song. [00:59:56] Speaker E: And Frank, it was the third single and it went to number 34 on mainstream rock. [01:00:02] Speaker F: Wow. [01:00:02] Speaker E: I think it had a bigger video rating than it did a song on radio. [01:00:06] Speaker F: Oh, really? [01:00:07] Speaker E: I think so. I remember the song all the time. [01:00:09] Speaker F: It's like one of those songs that was much bigger on MTV than it was on radio play, is what you're saying. [01:00:13] Speaker E: Probably. Okay. We're at the end to a song we've played a whole bunch of times. This is Wood. [01:00:37] Speaker B: Sa. [01:01:03] Speaker D: Be a child love you're after. Yeah. [01:01:47] Speaker C: I mean, what more can you say about this song? It's an amazing song. Obviously, it was from the. I believe it's a movie soundtrack. I think we talk about this. I'm kind of drawn blank, but I'm pretty sure. Right? Singles. But what an album closer. Almost too good to be an album closer. It's almost like an afterthought of just how good this song is and the fact that it's the last song. [01:02:07] Speaker E: It's an awesome song. It was in the 1992 film Singles. It's written about Andrew Wood, who is the lead vocalist of Mother Love Bone, who died in 1990 of an overdose. We always love playing this song. We had fun playing this song. I always keep saying, this is my favorite now. This is my favorite. I don't even know anymore. This thing comes up on. This might be better than everything there. I'm not even too sure. Yeah, it's awesome. [01:02:30] Speaker C: Andrew Wood, My God, he's like the God father of grunge, I would say he was friends with all of them. And the inspiration, Temple of the Dog is two songs dedicated to him. At least two songs. They kind of. I guess they all just kind of grew up together in the scene. And he was a massive, massive influence and a massive muse for that whole movement. [01:02:49] Speaker F: This was the song that got me addicted. You kidding me? No, I know this was the song. I'll never forget it. Friends just picked me up. We were heading on some type of road. I don't know where we're heading, but they picked me up to get in the car. We're in this car and threw in this song. And it was the first song on the single soundtrack. From that moment on, I was hooked on grunge. I remember going out, buying the soundtrack, listening to all those bands, and then eventually buying all those bands. And that's how I got into grunge. Eventually it was because of this song and that soundtrack. [01:03:16] Speaker E: Great song. Verse 1. Know Me Broken by my master Teach thee on child of love hereafter Chorus into the flood game Same old trip it was back then so I made a big mistake. Try to see it once my way not very many lyrics, but just the way they're presented is just too good. Let's continue. [01:03:54] Speaker B: I. Made a. [01:04:46] Speaker D: Yeah. Am I right? Am I run too far to get home? [01:05:32] Speaker E: I had to let it go I just couldn't stop. I'm gonna let this thing play out. [01:05:36] Speaker C: What do you think of the solo? I love the solo in this song. [01:05:39] Speaker E: Yeah, I think this whole is great. I always had fun playing the solo. I had fun playing this song. I thought it was just an awesome song. There's not much more to say than that. Vocals are great. Drums are great. Bass is awesome. I like the interplay between their voices. I like that. Jerry Cantrell sings pretty much the verses, and Lane Staley just comes in and hits the ends of them, and then he does the chorus. It's a great song. Let me read the rest of the lyrics and then we can vote. First two. Drifting body it's soul desertion flying not yet quite the notion Chorus the same as was before Chorus again and then the outro is cool. Am I wrong? Have I run too far to get home? Have I gone Left you here alone Am I wrong? Have to run too far to get home have I gone Left you here alone if I would, could you. I always like that end part. I like that it changed up. I'm going to go first nines across. I can't find anything to say bad about it, I would do tens. I think there's some other songs I made like pieces of better as an overall song song. And is it possible that this could be too good to be an ending song? You could have stuck this in the middle somewhere and it would have been totally fine. It's a very strong ending. Saf. [01:06:44] Speaker C: I have a dilemma here because I haven't given tens. I will say nine on the lyrics and tens on everything else. They deserve tens. This is one of those things you revisit be like, yeah, you could probably give tens half of this album. This song is incredible. It's short, it hits you. It never really stops. Stops. And listening to this album. And I remember too, even though I knew this song before I knew the album, if you're hearing this and you're like, holy, this is so good. And then you get to this and it ends on that, oh my God, I'm gonna flip this over and play it again. I have to hear this again. Which I'm pretty sure I did the first time. Frank. [01:07:19] Speaker F: I avoided giving tens as to not sound like a fanboy, but this is one of those songs I just can't. I gotta give tens across. Like you said, Sav, it's too good of a song to be the last last song. It's so good that you can say it can't end here and you go right back to listening to it all over again. Absolutely. 100% agree. Tens across and again. This was my intro to grunge. My intro to Alice in Chains has a special place in my heart. [01:07:45] Speaker B: Quintuple 10 the best of the best. [01:07:48] Speaker C: Mark. Mr. I want grunge. You may kiss the wheel. [01:07:52] Speaker E: I have a feeling we may see more of this now that the grunge floodgates of opened up. I bet you we're going to get other ones now that this has happened. Or we are going to say, fuck you, I gave you a grunge album, now never giving you another one again. I hope the prior is the outcome and not the latter. [01:08:08] Speaker C: I'm telling you, man, I am fucking ready to put side one on again and just fucking go through it. That's how I feel. I'm just ready to go back to them bones. [01:08:16] Speaker D: Mm. [01:08:17] Speaker E: Well, that's what that song does. That song makes you want to play the whole thing over again. [01:08:21] Speaker F: If you really think about at some point in the record, I don't know, just got to the studio that was just started. But that's when the LA riots broke out. They Recorded this in downtown la. La. How about that? Imagine recording this iconic album during that time in la. [01:08:33] Speaker E: Yeah, I'm sure it had something to do with the sound too. There's not much more you can say about this. It's one of the best, if not the best grunge album. I'm sure people can go back and forth whether Nevermind is or a Soundgarden album or an stp, if that's what you're doing, it has to be at the top. Just because it didn't sell as much as Nevermind doesn't mean it's not better, or at least as good. [01:08:53] Speaker C: Listen, everyone's entitled to their opinions, but I think no matter what, you can pretty much guarantee 99 point point nine infinity percent that has to be in everybody's top three. [01:09:02] Speaker E: Oh yeah, top three, top four. Depending on where you fall in the top grunge bands of the time, it could be anywhere. I do agree that as far as the feel of what grunge is, I think even this to me is even more maybe than Nirvana is. Just because of the lyrics and how depressing some of the stuff is and just the drug addiction and all the stuff. Whereas sometimes Nevermind is a little too. Too clean and a little too poppy. Not that this is not clean. It's not a horrible sounding album. I think the themes in here sometimes are a little more grunge. Ish. I'm sure the Nirvana fans are going crazy right now. [01:09:37] Speaker F: Definitely. You ask anyone from this time who's a fan, I think you'd be hard pressed to find someone who says it's not a top five for its era. For me, in that rounding out that top five would be. Mad Season will be in there for sure. Mad Season was a great album. I think I'm gonna listen to it tonight. [01:09:53] Speaker E: Yeah, there you. All right, Sav, why don't you do your thing? [01:09:58] Speaker C: We are part of the Deep Dive Podcast Network and the Boneless Podcast Network. [01:10:03] Speaker E: Boneless, you know, like those chicken wings without the bone. [01:10:06] Speaker C: Great bunch of guys on both sides. A lot of the same guys on both sides. If you want individual podcasts about bands like Rush, Murray Heap, Tom Petty, Megadeth, Metallica, Zeppelin, you name it, it's probably on there. So check them both out, please. And Mark, where can they find us on the Interwebs Rock Roulette pod and. [01:10:23] Speaker E: All the social media rock roulettepodcast.com go do the polls, buy some merch. You know what to do. Put us on your auto download so you get us every time we release and rate us 5 stars wherever you rate your podcast because that helps us get more listeners. Next week, we get to do our spin again. And who knows what it'll do? Will it pull another grunge album? Will it do something different? Who knows? The wheel is very fickle. Decides what it wants when it wants. [01:10:46] Speaker F: Yeah, we're not gonna get another ground challenge for, like, another eight years now. [01:10:49] Speaker E: Probably not. It's gonna do something a lot lighter than this, I'm sure. All right, guys, we will see you next week. [01:10:56] Speaker C: Joe. Ciao. [01:10:57] Speaker F: Take care. [01:10:58] Speaker E: Later. [01:11:26] Speaker B: It.