Episode 66 - Megadeth - Youthanasia (Part 1)

[00:00:00] Speaker A: You. [00:00:04] Speaker B: This is our musical reaction, breakdown and commentary analysis of this song. Under fair use, we intend no copyright infringement and this is not a replacement for listening to the artist's music. The content made available on this podcast is for educational and informational purposes only. Notwithstanding a copyright owner's rights under the Copyright Act section of the Copyright Act allows limited use of copyrighted material without requiring permission from the rights holders. For purposes such as education, criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship and research. These so called fair uses are permitted even if the use of the work would otherwise be infringing. Now on to the Rock Roulette Podcast. [00:01:14] Speaker C: Everybody. Welcome to another episode of Rock Roulette podcast. That's right, the crazy ass podcast that took over 1100 albums, stuck them in a list, put that list in a wheel, and typically every other week we spin the wheel. She picks an album for us and we go through side by side. If we could fit one in one episode, we try, but typically it's one side per week and we go song by song and talk about the music, the lyrics and the production and just rate it based on what we think. Again, we're not professionals, just a bunch of guys who love music, want to do a podcast, so just have some fun with it. And again, we want to thank anybody who listens to us. The listen seem to be going up, so hopefully you're spreading the word and you enjoy it and drop some comments, what you like, what you don't like, what you maybe want to hear, who knows? Make some conjectures and we'll listen. We always answer. So again, thank you. Tonight we are a duo. We have Mark. Oh, hi Mark. [00:02:13] Speaker D: Hey, what's up? [00:02:15] Speaker C: And I'm sav. Ciao. Buena. So last week we wrapped up Deep Purple by Deep Purple, which was their third record. And I was actually expecting a little bit more of what the album started out as, which seemed a little bit more psychedelic and praggy. But I think by the end of the record we could see the full swing into the next generation of Deep Purple. I mean, once the Painter kicked in, not that the songs before were bad, but I mean, I just from the Painter on, I mean, the album just kind of kicked into full gear. What do you think, Mark? [00:02:52] Speaker D: Yeah, I agree. Yeah, it started to be foreshadowing what they were going to become in the think. [00:03:01] Speaker C: Yeah, really strong songwriting, soloing, I mean, some really good stuff. [00:03:08] Speaker D: I never went that far back into Deep Purple, so I didn't really know what to expect. [00:03:11] Speaker C: I wanted to and I never did. And I'm kind of glad we got it and it seems to be attracting some good listens. So hopefully it's a record that people like, oh, no one ever talks about this record. [00:03:21] Speaker D: Glad you guys did well, just like us. Maybe you're rediscovering or you're discovering again. So that's what this podcast is all about, finding things we know and we don't know. [00:03:34] Speaker C: Yes. [00:03:34] Speaker D: And the wheel does what the wheel wants to do. Who knows what we're going to do. [00:03:39] Speaker C: Speaking of the wheel oh, no, we get to spin the wheel tonight. [00:03:44] Speaker D: Yes, we do. [00:03:46] Speaker C: Actually, I forgot to bring it up. Let me bring it up here. [00:03:49] Speaker D: Yeah, well, yeah, you're going to need to bring the wheel up. [00:03:51] Speaker C: Yeah, but I'm excited. So what do you think let me ask you this. What do you think will happen, and what would you like to happen if they're not the same thing? [00:04:03] Speaker D: Well, as of the recording of this show, this will be the final Kiss show supposedly in makeup happening. [00:04:11] Speaker C: That's right. [00:04:12] Speaker D: It may just be finishing up right now in Madison Square Garden. Right. So would it be apropos for us to get Kiss? It would be. Will the wheel do that for us? No, it won't. I don't think so. Maybe it'll surprise me, but I doubt very highly that it'll go, oh, this is the last time Kiss is going to play live. Let's Pick a Kiss record. I don't think it will. That being said, I don't know. What did I pick last week or two weeks ago? I don't remember what I picked. I don't know if I said 70. [00:04:44] Speaker C: I think we were all off last week. [00:04:47] Speaker D: Yeah, each of us picked seventy s and eighty s and ninety s. Right. And did 60. [00:04:50] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:04:50] Speaker D: I think we all I'm going to pick 90s because I really do want to get something in 90s that is more grungy. That's what I'm picking. But I don't know. [00:05:01] Speaker C: So I heard Rusty Cage today, which I haven't heard in a while, and I said to myself, you know what? I think this is going to bleed into the podcast. So I'm with you. [00:05:12] Speaker D: Okay. [00:05:12] Speaker C: I'm with you. [00:05:16] Speaker D: That's a good thing. Well, maybe we will get 90s, who knows? [00:05:22] Speaker C: Or we'll get something completely off, like completely different. [00:05:26] Speaker D: Yes. [00:05:28] Speaker C: Hey, whatever. It's all good. Right? [00:05:31] Speaker D: Well, I'm excited now. [00:05:33] Speaker C: I am excited. [00:05:35] Speaker D: So can you see the wheel? [00:05:36] Speaker C: I can see the wheel. [00:05:39] Speaker D: Okay, beautiful. [00:05:40] Speaker C: Awesome. [00:05:42] Speaker D: I'm going to get ready to spin if you're ready. I'm ready. [00:05:45] Speaker C: I'm ready. [00:05:46] Speaker D: Right, here we go. You range metal band. [00:06:16] Speaker C: This is one of them. And we got euthanasia. Wow. [00:06:21] Speaker D: Wow. That's so as far away from Kiss as possible. [00:06:27] Speaker C: Yes. I remember I saw them on this tour. [00:06:29] Speaker D: Oh, did you? [00:06:31] Speaker C: Yeah, at the Roseland. We were all the way in the back, and I said to myself, you know what? I'm going to fly through these mosh pits and see how close to this stage I can get. Got all the way up front. I stared up dave mustaine's nostril basically. And then I kind of got pushed away or whatever through the mosh pits. And I was like, you know what? That was cool. They were great. I mean, they were such a great live band. They were know. This was obviously the Nick menza marty Friedman and Dave Ellison era. [00:07:09] Speaker D: Yeah, that's what I was going to ask if this was. [00:07:14] Speaker C: Where this could this album was a little bit more commercial than the ones that came before it. So countdown to extinction had slight. [00:07:24] Speaker D: Is this after rust in peace or before rust in peace? [00:07:28] Speaker C: This is two albums after, so it's Rust in Peace, which is the first one they did with this lineup. Then they did Countdown to Extinction and then they did this one. [00:07:36] Speaker D: I mean, this is where they had their biggest success, right? This lineup. Yes. [00:07:44] Speaker C: I would say this lineup has had the biggest success. They were showing their stuff on MTV. I remember them doing a televised concert too with I think it was a Halloween show. Actually. I have it on video somewhere. But I mean, they tight as hell. I mean, such a great band. This is one of those albums that unless I'm stand corrected, starts off pretty strong, gets a little bit weaker as it progresses. But I think you'll definitely like stuff on here that you haven't heard. Yeah, it's a little bit more accessible. [00:08:27] Speaker D: Yeah. For was I was never into megadeth. I know it can probably be blasphemy for some I know who they are, obviously. I know who David Mustaine is. It's impossible to skip that. You know what I mean? So I'm not going to do the remastered version. I'm going to do the original version because I want to hear well, there's some remaster things I think on here. I don't know if I can get away from that. But I always knew that this lineup, even though I don't really follow them, I always knew that this lineup was the lineup with Marty Friedman in there. [00:09:15] Speaker C: Yeah. So I've actually heard some of the remastered stuff and I don't know if I've heard this one, but I heard Rust in Peace remastered. It's actually really good because the drums, they did something really good with the drums. The way they amped it up, the snare sound was different. It was crisper. It was punchier than the original one. [00:09:34] Speaker D: So what would you like me to do? [00:09:36] Speaker C: One complaint. [00:09:38] Speaker D: Do you want to do the original? [00:09:41] Speaker C: I don't know how the remastered one sounds like this. So if they fluff it, I don't know. [00:09:48] Speaker D: You know what? Since you know about this more than me, you're going to have to pick. So either original or remastered. [00:09:56] Speaker C: Let's go to remastered, see what happens. How about we do listen, the first song I already know starts off with drums. So if that sounds like crap, maybe we can switch to the other one. [00:10:06] Speaker D: Okay, so the first one is Reckoning Day. [00:10:12] Speaker C: Yes. [00:10:12] Speaker D: So I'm super excited. Well, actually I should put lyrics up here first before we do that and we'll see. I told you the wheel was not going to pick kiss. I knew it was going to happen. [00:10:29] Speaker C: You know what's funny? There was a picture of Mega that came up today. I forgot what on my Instagram feed. [00:10:35] Speaker D: Oh, really? [00:10:36] Speaker C: Maybe that was Kismet. [00:10:38] Speaker D: Oh, maybe, yeah. Okay, here we go. [00:11:09] Speaker A: And all the reasons I get help make you want to pain anything like just I like the way that you let me in the way you look when the wall came in I like the way that your stomach and carry back all the time. [00:11:38] Speaker D: So it is definitely very much more accessible, I think. [00:11:44] Speaker C: Yeah, this is pretty accessible. [00:11:49] Speaker D: So maybe this is the gateway drug into Megadeth. [00:11:52] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:11:53] Speaker D: For the people who didn't want it as heavy, maybe. And they can get into this a little bit more. I mean, it's still heavy, don't get me wrong. [00:11:58] Speaker C: Yeah. But definitely a little bit more. But again, I mean, they were kind of headed into this direction. I think Risk was after this, and that's considered really or actually it may have been Cryptic Writings and then Risk risk was more of commercial. But honestly, kind of like after this one, I lost it a little bit because cryptic writings was okay. Again, those are albums I should probably go back and listen to. It's been a while, but this was definitely the last. [00:12:33] Speaker D: Yeah, no, I kind of like it so far. I like the riff. I even like his singing. It's not as nasally as normally, which he's wearing like that, like thunder style. [00:12:44] Speaker C: Very unique. You know, when it's know, just like James Heffield right. You know, when it's them or it's somebody copying them. [00:12:53] Speaker D: All right, so here's some lyrics. I like the way that I make you itch and all the reasons I give you to bitch and how I make you want to scream in pain and for your life is just a losing game I like the way that you let me in the way you look when the walls cave in I like the way your stomach knots and how you cry for it all to stop it's a good lyrics. Yeah, I like it. All right. [00:13:20] Speaker A: Why like the way that you fool yourself what makes you leave there's nobody why? Like the way that you stand in line and make the basis from the empty sky every night don't wonder if it ain't no day me what? Like the things that you try to fake when it is when I see you break and then say you won't pray for me you realize you are pray for me why? Like the way you say I'm attack no matter what I keep coming back and I try holding down watch when you're driven to the ground so he. [00:14:49] Speaker D: Really didn't do very much singing in Metallica at all, right? Or anything. I don't know. I mean, he doesn't have a bad voice. [00:15:00] Speaker C: No, it's very unique and, I mean, it fits the music. It's always fit the music that they've done. [00:15:05] Speaker D: I mean, obviously, you're not going to mistake him from Steve Perry or anything, but his voice, it's all in key. It's not really horribly harsh on listening to it. [00:15:16] Speaker C: I mean, if you think of a song of, like, oh, my God, what the hell is it called? From the more he speaks through most of the song, I'll think about it. But when you hear him sing that song, you're like, yes, he's the one who needs to sing this song. You know what I mean? Like, his voice is just made perfectly for this. [00:15:41] Speaker D: Oh, yeah. [00:15:42] Speaker C: And he's live, too. I mean, like I said, I saw them live and they were great. I'm sure I got a t shirt somewhere which has disappeared. I have a couple of concert t shirts, maybe five or six, that I have no idea what happened to them. So I don't know if they got lost in the move somewhere, but this is one of them. [00:16:04] Speaker D: Yeah, it's good. All right. Don't want no revenge ain't no payback time it ain't called getting even here comes the reckoning day I like the things that you try to fake and your face when I see you break and that you say that you'll pray for me you realize you are pray for me that's a pretty good line, too. I like the way you stay on attack no matter what I keep coming back and now you try to hold me down but you end up driven to the ground yeah, I like it. And the guitar solo stuff so far hasn't been very not as shreddy as I thought it would be. Maybe that was like more rest in peace time. [00:16:42] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:16:43] Speaker D: Yeah. So this is a little more accessible. [00:16:45] Speaker C: Pieces, a lot of trade off solos. [00:16:46] Speaker D: And I'm not sure who's playing instrumentation. Is this him or Marty Friedman? That's the question, I guess. I mean, I think it sounds more like him. [00:16:55] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:16:56] Speaker D: But I'm not sure. [00:16:57] Speaker C: Sounds like him. [00:16:58] Speaker D: Yeah. So I'm not positive, but, I mean. [00:17:01] Speaker C: Yeah, roast in Peace is a very guitar solo driven, you know what I mean? There's big parts of the album where it's just music, whereas these are definitely songs, you know what I mean? [00:17:14] Speaker D: Yeah. Okay, let's continue. [00:17:30] Speaker A: Ain't no way time safe. I know that. I don't get any. [00:18:33] Speaker D: Like, that middle part, too. It's very it's very metallica ish. [00:18:39] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:18:41] Speaker D: But that's to be expected. [00:18:42] Speaker C: It's a great song. [00:18:43] Speaker D: Yeah, no, I'm just saying but it does in general yeah, it does sort of sound very similar. This does something they would do. But that makes sense, too, because he was in Metallica. That's got to suck for him, though. I mean, he had to be really pissed off. [00:19:01] Speaker C: Yeah. I mean, he kind of gets some of his grief out in the movie. [00:19:08] Speaker D: Where he talks about some kind of monster. [00:19:10] Speaker C: Yeah, but here's the deal. Here's what I remember where he talks about at one point, he says, well, how do you think it felt like being me, where everything you guys did turn to gold and everything I did turn to shit. I was saying to myself, like, did it really turn to shit, though? Because all right, I'm not saying that they had the fame of Metallica, but I mean, especially when these three albums came out, they were massive, you know what I mean? They were massive. And it's one thing where if you say, yeah, whatever, megadeth. They had a couple of albums and they never did anything, but okay, so you're not at the level of popularity of Metallica, but, I mean, it's like, all right, Metallica, then who do you think of? You take a megadeth, right? [00:20:00] Speaker D: Pretty much. [00:20:02] Speaker C: I really felt like he undersold himself. [00:20:05] Speaker D: In that, you know, when you get kicked out of a band that ends up being Metallica right. I just think there's going to be a little bit of resentment. [00:20:14] Speaker C: Yeah, but I mean, to say that you know what I mean, that everything you did turned to ship. I was like, wow, that's really harsh, because you guys had good popularity and they're still going, you know what I mean? Through 15 million lineup changes and whatever. [00:20:33] Speaker D: Oh, yeah, he's had a lot of lineup changes. [00:20:35] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:20:36] Speaker D: I don't think he's that easy to work with. I think that's what it is. [00:20:38] Speaker C: I don't think so, either. [00:20:41] Speaker D: And that might have been part of the problems of Metallica, too. I know what he drank. [00:20:45] Speaker C: This lineup lasted, I think it was five albums that they did. [00:20:50] Speaker D: From all the things I heard. He even says it like when he drinks, he gets nasty. [00:20:55] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:20:56] Speaker D: So I think there was a lot of that going. That didn't help his situation either. [00:21:02] Speaker C: I read his book, too. I don't remember all the details, honestly, because it was a while ago, but he's also very religious. [00:21:10] Speaker D: Really? [00:21:11] Speaker C: Yeah, he's pretty religious, actually. And that's funny, because I think this is the first album where I noticed the first thing he thanked was God. I'm like, Wait. And then I went back and I think he thanked God, like, on the albums before this as well. [00:21:27] Speaker D: Yeah. I'm liking this so far. It's good. I like the riff, too. [00:21:30] Speaker C: Yeah, I think it's totally fucking kick ass. [00:21:34] Speaker D: Yeah, it's good. [00:21:36] Speaker C: Drums are good. The bass is good. [00:21:38] Speaker D: Yeah, everything's good. Yeah, there's really no complaint, so I have no complaints about this so far. It's really good. It's a good start. [00:21:47] Speaker C: Yep. [00:21:48] Speaker D: All right, here we go. [00:22:07] Speaker A: Come back. Me Day. [00:22:32] Speaker D: Ducking Day. So do you think that has to do with Metallica, that song? [00:23:00] Speaker C: I was reading about it, they said it's in general. [00:23:04] Speaker D: People aren't saying that, but sounds like that to me. [00:23:09] Speaker C: They said that? Said that. The idea of the title came from the 1993 movie Tombstone, starring Kurt Russell, Val Kilmer in the movie. Kilmer's character says the line, make no mistake, it's not revenge he's after. It's a reckoning. [00:23:24] Speaker D: Okay. Well, I think a lot of people are going to read that kind of stuff through his lyrics anyway. More than likely. [00:23:30] Speaker C: Well, I mean, listen, it's about resolution and so, I mean, I think anybody he's angry with is in the line of fire, right? [00:23:39] Speaker D: Of course. All right. So I'm going to say lyrics. I'm going to give it a seven. I like the lyrics a lot. I think he writes really good lyrics. Like I said, I never really super paid attention to Megadeth that much. Obviously know who they were. I've heard a bunch of their songs, but I never sat down and listened to a whole album straight through. But I like what I hear so far, so I'm excited to hear more musicianship. Eight. Everyone was really good. I think that those leads are definitely him. Listening to them a little more closely now, I don't think that's Marty Friedman. That's him. I could be wrong, but I think it's him. And they were really good. They sounded a little more old school, you know what I mean? That's why I'm thinking it was him. And production, I'm giving eight. I'm going to give an eight. And the producer is what did we say producer was? Max Norman. He's done a bunch of stuff, so it all sounds good. I like it. Seth good. [00:24:41] Speaker C: I think I'm going to say the same. I mean, technically, I can go higher. I'm going to stay here level because it's the first song, but I can probably go higher. I mean, this is one of my favorite songs on the record, so I'll say the same. I'm going to say seven on the lyrics, eight on the music and eight on the production. Again, just a really strong song and a great way to open the record. [00:25:03] Speaker D: Yeah, I like it. And now I'm excited to hear what's in the next. So the next one is Train of Consequences. [00:25:10] Speaker C: Do you remember this song or no? [00:25:13] Speaker D: Do I remember this song? I don't know. [00:25:18] Speaker C: It was a big MTV song. [00:25:20] Speaker D: Was it? [00:25:21] Speaker C: You may remember it. [00:25:23] Speaker D: Okay. Yeah. I'm curious. Curious to see here we go. [00:25:48] Speaker A: I'm doing you a favor as I'm taking all your money I got the shut I don't even trust me. [00:26:01] Speaker D: See, this is not what I think megadeth is. Not that it's bad. I expect different. [00:26:10] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:26:16] Speaker D: What were the Megadeth fans saying at this point? [00:26:19] Speaker C: I think they were upset, but I think they were upset once Countdown to Extinction came out. [00:26:25] Speaker D: Oh, really? [00:26:26] Speaker C: Yeah. Like I said, that album was the first gateway. There's some things that resemble this, but it's a little bit dirtier overall. It's definitely heavier than this record. There's not a lot of what do you call sweating bullets, by the way, is a song I was trying to think of before, but I forgot what the first song is, God, I hate when I Can't Remember Things. But there's definitely stuff that's heavier on that record. Even stuff that kind of starts out a little bit like the architecture of aggression. And the other one, which was a really big hit on MTV, too, which starts out very oh, Foreclosure of a Dream, which starts out very Twangy. And then whether or not you realize it, by the time it gets to the middle, it's heavy, you know what I mean? It's fast and heavy. There's not a lot not really much going on like that here. [00:27:31] Speaker D: Yeah, I mean, just reading through this, this is definitely a more mainstream sound. He said he hadn't pulled any old material into for this. This is all new stuff. [00:27:44] Speaker C: But again, to me, a good song is a good song, you know what I mean? If you say to yourself, oh, this is not what the band sounds like, I'm not listening to it. If people said, let's say The Black Album. Right? Again, not that you have to like it, but I think the fair thing is to say, okay, well, this doesn't sound like old school Metallica, but is it a good song? And if it's a good song and I like it, then so be it. There's nothing on here that resembles stuff that's on Rust in Peace or even slightly the stuff before. But, yeah, there's no hangry teen on here. There's no holy wars. But to me, a good song is a good song. Right? That first song is not the heaviest of songs or it's just a good song. This is a good song, a good riff. I mean, I like that, the riff. I think it's a really strong riff. I like it, you know what I mean? It's just really that. [00:28:50] Speaker D: Okay. [00:28:51] Speaker C: Yeah, I think people are upset. [00:28:53] Speaker D: I'm sure they were. All right. [00:28:56] Speaker A: My name is trouble coming in for the girl? It's all the way rolling on me? The miles and the Drake rail? I'm tied up to the track? The trainer ran it fast? The money back and blowing on my car. Then I let you not chef like the road in breath after me. I bring back the bag and then it was I popped my brain headed with. [00:30:01] Speaker D: Yeah. So that's it's. Definitely a different sound for them, I think, from the stuff that I think of. I keep wanting to say Metallica megadeth. I'm going to read some lyrics. So I'm doing you a favor as I'm taking all your money I guess I should feel sorry but I don't even trust me there's bad news creeping up and you will feel a sudden chill how do you do? My name is Trouble and I'm coming in for the kill? And you know I will set the ball of rolling? I'll be clicking off the miles on the train of consequences? My box code LIFO style? My thinking is derailed I'm tied up in the tracks the train of consequences there ain't no turning back and then the next verse is no horse ever ran as fast as the money that you bet I'm blowing all my cards and I play them to my chest life's fabric is corrupt shot through with a corroded thread as for me I hawked my brains and packed my bags and headed west I hocked my brains and headed west even like the melodies are a little more accessible obviously on purpose. [00:31:06] Speaker C: Very catchy song. [00:31:07] Speaker D: Yeah, it is. [00:31:10] Speaker C: And I'm pretty sure, like I said, this was a lead off single. I'm like, okay, I'm glad I said, but that's a pretty good song, man. [00:31:17] Speaker D: Yeah, but I can see why the old school megadeth fans would look at this and go, no, I understand. They want their megadeth to stay where but see, the problem is they want their megadeth to stay where it is. But then when they stay where they are, they'll say to them, why are you doing the same thing over and over? [00:31:37] Speaker C: Yeah, I mean, the thing is this, once this band formed and they did rest in Peace is just whatever, it's on another level. But these songs played live were heavier, so that was the thing, too. [00:31:55] Speaker D: I'm sure. [00:31:57] Speaker C: Even though here they sound it's very clean. The production is very good. You can hear everything. But I mean, once hearing these songs live, they do take on a different they were definitely heavier. So that was the cool thing about it. Yeah. [00:32:12] Speaker D: I like it. [00:32:13] Speaker C: Yeah, it's a great song. [00:32:15] Speaker D: There we go. [00:32:20] Speaker A: I'm afraid of consequences my body afraid of consequences it. [00:33:09] Speaker D: Yeah, I think that was I think that was him again. That's what it sounds like. [00:33:14] Speaker C: Actually, I'm looking at a thing that says that was Marty Friedman. [00:33:17] Speaker D: Wasn't Marty Friedman. [00:33:18] Speaker C: Wow. [00:33:19] Speaker D: That's so different. [00:33:19] Speaker C: According to this website, it says it was. [00:33:24] Speaker D: I mean, I could guess. Just doesn't he definitely doesn't sound like I thought he would sound or stuff that I've heard him play. [00:33:31] Speaker C: Well, yeah. He's also playing within a different context, right? Yeah. [00:33:37] Speaker D: I guess there's not as much progressive and stuff in this stuff as some of the earlier stuff, like Rest in Peace and stuff, so makes sense that he would play different. [00:33:49] Speaker C: Yeah. Supposedly he was both the solos in the first song, too. [00:33:52] Speaker D: Really? Okay. [00:33:55] Speaker C: Dave Misteen was actually at the end before they went back into the chorus. And supposedly David Mistein does the I guess the outgoing solo on this. [00:34:06] Speaker D: Okay. I'm not going to pay attention. See if there's any different. Okay. All right, here we go. [00:34:21] Speaker A: My finger nickel turn it back that's about rolling up the clicking, not the miles. On the train of consequences I watch out die I'm tired of breath. [00:35:12] Speaker D: Wasn'T a harmonica. And there was it. [00:35:15] Speaker C: Yeah, that's what it sounded like. [00:35:17] Speaker D: Wow. Never thought I'd say wow harmonica. And I mega that song. [00:35:24] Speaker C: It fits the song, though, right? [00:35:27] Speaker D: No, I mean, I don't hate the song at all. It's just I didn't expect this to be this. I think I was expecting more rust in peace. [00:35:38] Speaker C: No, this is not Rust in Peace. [00:35:41] Speaker D: But you know what I mean. But in my head, that's what I think. Why don't you go first, then I got to think about this for a little bit. [00:35:51] Speaker C: Yeah. I mean, I'm going to say save one of the lyrics again. They're good. I tore these lyrics apart when I used to try to sing them in terms of what I thought he said. I switched to the second verse, which is really funny. I'm going to say an eight in the music again and an eight in the production again. I can probably give these things an irons because I really like the first set. Again, I think this is an album where you're going to see the first side is stronger than the second side. And not that the songs are bad on the second side, but it's definitely front heavy. And again, I could probably give these nines, but I'll stay there for now. What do you think? [00:36:38] Speaker D: I think I'm going to do the same thing I'm doing. Seven for the lyrics, eight for the music, eight for production. I mean, I think it's good. I think it's really good. It's definitely different. It's not what I would expected Megadeth to you know, for someone who doesn't really know lots of this stuff, I can see how this would be an easier entry, I think. And then you may go back. I mean, I guess he figured that Metallica could do it, right? Why can't I? Yeah, they made something that was more accessible and that was only, what, like three years before this, right? But their last record, from what I was reading, was their biggest record. It seems like Counter Extinction was up to that point. They were playing stadiums and stuff. And I was also reading that maybe one of the reasons this is super clean is this is one of the first albums recorded solely on hard drives rather than tape. This is weird in here. I don't know how true this is. So the saying was recorded on Macintosh. It was in the same with great effort, bio and was soon evident that Magnet tape would have to be used. Maybe they started to do it on hard drives and they just couldn't get enough tracks or something. I don't know. Who knows? Maybe that's why it's so clean, the way it sounded. Maybe. Listen, I mean, we had that problem with that when we recorded on that. It was just not great. Very sterile. Yeah, it was pretty bad. [00:38:07] Speaker C: Especially not for our music. [00:38:09] Speaker D: Yeah. I just don't know. All right, so the next one is Addicted to Chaos. I like the name. [00:38:17] Speaker C: Yeah, there's another good song. [00:38:19] Speaker D: All right, here we go. I like the drums a lot. They. Sound really good. [00:38:38] Speaker C: Yeah, they sound really good. [00:38:39] Speaker D: They sound really big. [00:38:41] Speaker C: Yeah. No, I mean the drum. I remember actually, when we were first listening to this in the car and I had said to my non musician, didn't care shit friends, it's like, wow, the drums sound better on this than the last two records. They're like, okay, I'm just saying. [00:39:01] Speaker D: Yeah, no, they sound really good. Yeah, they're very big. They're really in your face. They sound really good. [00:39:08] Speaker C: But like I said, they did a remaster of Rest in Peace and I hadn't realized it at first. I downloaded it because I hadn't listened to it in a while. And right from the beginning, I hear that snare and I'm like, wow, that sounds so pop. You know what I mean? There's a nice pop to it without ruining the heaviness. So, I mean, for sure, if we ever get to that one, we should listen to that one because the drums really pop. [00:39:36] Speaker D: Yeah. I like how they sound on this track. So, let's see. [00:39:49] Speaker A: Yesterday they told me you were gone loud is no will I find another one? Monkey on my back waking in my bone one day you walk I said I need you that makes me wrong am I your weak man? Are you feeling strong? My heart was like it's bloody red my heart in my head you without me wealth without pretend really turned on me is this my final bedroom? I got me, you random wilderness I'm a distinct chaos, chaos. [00:41:20] Speaker D: It that's pretty good, man, I got to say. [00:41:23] Speaker C: Yeah, I know. [00:41:25] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:41:27] Speaker C: You're not going to find much fault with the first bunch of songs. Really? Yeah, just really strong writing good melodies. [00:41:37] Speaker D: Good riffs, good solo stuff. Everything's good. [00:41:41] Speaker C: Yeah, I wasn't disappointed. Like I said, once Countdown to Extinction came out, it was kind of a bridge. But I figured that this album wasn't going to be heavy. It was a little bit softer than I was expecting. But I'm like, the riffs are good, they're strong. It's good stuff. [00:42:06] Speaker D: Well, the last song was about kind of gambling thing, right. That's kind of what it is about. And this one, I'm not too sure what it's about yet, but they're saying. [00:42:19] Speaker C: I mean, it's written in the context of somebody losing somebody that they were close. Yeah, I can tell by the first dealing with it. [00:42:26] Speaker D: Yeah, I could tell by the first. [00:42:28] Speaker C: Bunch of yeah, it doesn't say something specific. I think it's more of an imagined scenario, dealing with that scenario. [00:42:39] Speaker D: So only yesterday they told me you were gone all these normal people will I find another one? Monkey on my back aching my bones monkey on my back could be drugs, maybe. [00:42:51] Speaker C: Yeah. Or anything. I mean, any addiction. Right. [00:42:54] Speaker D: I forgot. You said one day you'll walk alone I said I need you does that make me wrong? Am I a weak man? Are you feeling strong? My heart was blackened it's bloody red a hole in my heart a hole in my head who will help me up? Where's the helping hand? Will you turn on me? Is this my final stand? In a dream I cannot see tangled abstract fallacy random turmoil builds in me I'm addicted to chaos when do you get to see tangled abstract fallacy in lyrics? [00:43:25] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:43:28] Speaker D: It'S pretty good. [00:43:29] Speaker C: No? Good stuff. [00:43:32] Speaker D: Yeah. And I like the riff. I like the production. It's all right in your face. I mean, I'm not super on the bass side. He's just kind of there. He's not really doing anything, like, spectacular for me. [00:43:50] Speaker C: I noticed him in the first two songs. I haven't really paid attention on this one. [00:43:53] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:43:54] Speaker D: I got to pay a little more. [00:43:54] Speaker C: Attention holding it down. If you listen, I mean, he's definitely oh, yeah. [00:43:58] Speaker D: No, he's good. [00:43:59] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:44:01] Speaker D: But it's not something that's sticking out to me, which I guess is fine. Doesn't have to stick out. [00:44:09] Speaker C: I remember this like, I hadn't heard this album in a while. I mean, this is going back a few years, and I hadn't really thought about this song. And then when I heard it again, I was like, oh, wow, this is a really good song. [00:44:20] Speaker D: Yeah, I like it so far. All right. [00:44:21] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:44:28] Speaker A: Break down since the fly smash my brain to playboard my head with don't let me down don't give up don't the rain comes down cold the plant was made back from the road turn up my love from the alone remember that when they walk help me with the helping hand will you turn on me? This is my final in a dream I cannot see me take a laugh I built it chaos. [00:46:19] Speaker D: Beginning of part. Had a little bit of an Asian kind of feel on it. [00:46:22] Speaker C: Yeah. I mean, to me, this I could be wrong, but this reeks of Marty Friedman. [00:46:27] Speaker D: Oh, this one? Yes. 100%. I'd be super surprised if that wasn't him. [00:46:31] Speaker C: Yeah, I'd be very surprised. Yeah. [00:46:33] Speaker D: The other ones I wasn't too sure, but this one, I'm pretty positive that's him. [00:46:36] Speaker C: Yeah. I think he gets to let loose a little bit more in this, and it sounds a little bit more like the stuff he's done with Shrapnel records. [00:46:43] Speaker D: Or even the stuff he's done with him. And it's really good. You can tell when a guitar player is really confident in what he does. Yeah. [00:46:54] Speaker C: I mean, it fits the song. He's not going somewhere that the song isn't. [00:46:59] Speaker D: No, it all works really good. And it's really weird. It sounds like he's playing on the neck pickup and not the bridge pickup because it has a little more nasally sound going on. So I kind of like that, too. It's amazing guitar playing and not just Shred for the fact that you're Shredding either. [00:47:20] Speaker C: You know what's, actually, speaking of Marty Friedman, I forgot he actually auditioned for Ozzy. [00:47:33] Speaker D: Did he? [00:47:34] Speaker C: I just read this week. I want to say it was before what's the name came in. [00:47:39] Speaker D: JK. [00:47:39] Speaker C: Lee? No. After JK. Lee. [00:47:42] Speaker D: Zach Wilde. [00:47:43] Speaker C: Zach Wilde. He said he played the songs well, but he said it wasn't only about that. He said the way he showed up and everything, he felt like he didn't fit in. Like maybe they thought he wasn't going to fit in or whatever. But he said he kind of learned a lesson. It's not only about the music and what you play. It's about the band and everybody gets along. So yeah, I just read that this week, which I hadn't known. [00:48:20] Speaker D: I mean, I think Zach Wild was the right choice, but still. Yeah. I mean, it would have been interesting to hear what he would have done. It's kind of crazy. All right, so here's some lyrics. Lights shined on my path turned bad days into good turned breakdowns into blocks I smashed them because I could my brain was labored my head would spin don't let me down don't give up don't give in the rain comes down cold wind blows the plans we made are back up on the road turn up my collar welcome the Unknown remember what you said one day you'll walk alone there's good lyrics. [00:49:00] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:49:02] Speaker D: And there are some heavier parts. Like if you listen, even though it's pretty slickly produced, you can hear the heavier pieces in some of the back parts when you listen really carefully, like, they're not gone. It's just this is more of an accessible record. [00:49:19] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:49:23] Speaker D: I like it. And the solo was really good. [00:49:28] Speaker C: Creation was really good solo. [00:49:30] Speaker D: Yeah. Here we go. [00:49:36] Speaker A: Well helping hand where my knee is my final man dream I cast in a dream I cannot tell that my friend dance like that day um. [00:51:10] Speaker C: Did. [00:51:11] Speaker D: He just roll his arm? He went random. He went random? [00:51:14] Speaker C: Yeah, he he's he's done that before. [00:51:19] Speaker D: That's funny. Yeah, it's it's definitely little things like. [00:51:23] Speaker C: That, like humor there's sometimes where he does little humorous things. [00:51:29] Speaker D: It's so what I'm not expecting, but it's just good. Like I said, I was expecting so much different than this. I don't know. I'm going to go first. Trying to say if I think I almost have to give the lyrics an eight just because he said tangled, abstract, fallacy in lyrics. I'm going to give the music a nine because I really like the solo and the song. And I'm going to keep production eight because I think the production has been pretty solid all the way through. I really like it. It's really good. [00:52:10] Speaker C: Yeah. I'm going to say an eight on the lyrics, too. Trying to think, do I want to give it a nine? Yeah. Fuck it. We'll give it a nine. I really like the first two as well. It's hard for me. Like I said, I could probably give nines to all of them, and I'll say, yeah, production eight again. But I like the warmth of the song, you know what I mean? [00:52:44] Speaker D: And the production has been solid all the way through. [00:52:46] Speaker C: Yeah, it's really good. Everything is clear, you know what I mean? It's clean, but it's not overly clean where it kind of gets lost. [00:53:03] Speaker D: So the next song is how does this pronounce? Tulimond tulimon. [00:53:10] Speaker C: A tulimont tulemont. Yeah. [00:53:13] Speaker D: To everyone, to all my friends I know you must go that's an interesting thing to name, something. [00:53:22] Speaker C: Yeah, it's very clear what the song is about once you listen to oh, really? [00:53:28] Speaker D: Okay. I'm excited. [00:53:30] Speaker C: This is a great song, too. There we go. [00:53:33] Speaker D: It's about a ballad from Megada. [00:53:35] Speaker C: Ballad? [00:53:36] Speaker D: Oh, shit. Here we go. [00:53:39] Speaker A: Don't remember where I was. I realized life was a game more seriously. I took things. The harder the world became. I had no idea what it cost. My life passed before my eyes. I found out how little I accomplish all my plans tonight. So as you read there's no my friend. I love stay with you all. My wind, my body run faster. These are the last words I'll never speak. [00:54:59] Speaker D: I never knew Megadeth did a song like this. This is so weird to me. And then he throws French in the middle of it too. Fuck. So is it about him dying? [00:55:11] Speaker C: I assume it's about him. So I'm reading here, they're saying, well, it's not about suicide. It's about overcoming whatever. But he swallowed a bunch of and I remember him introducing this to the crowd at the MTV thing, and he was like, I almost died. And I'm sure some people would have been happy about that or something, you know what I mean? [00:55:42] Speaker D: Okay. So don't remember where I was I realized life was a game. The more seriously I took things, the harder the rules became. I had no idea what it cost my life passed before my eyes I find out how little I accomplished all my plans denied so you read this. Know my friends I'd love to stay with you all smile when you're thinking me my body's gone that's all okay, I'm not doing the French part. I'm just going to do the English part because I'm going to fuck it all up. So basically, it says to the world, to all my friends, I love you, I must leave these are the last words I'll ever speak and they'll set me free it could sort of be like a suicide thing, but he's saying this was banned from MTV because they said it was pro suicide. So he's saying it's not a suicide song. What it is, it's when people have a loved one that dies and they end on a bad note, they wish they could say something to them. So this is an opportunity for the deceased to say something before they go. It was my impression of what I would like to say to people if I had to say 3 seconds to do so in the life before I died, I'd say the entire world to all my friends, I love you and now I must go. These are the last words I'll ever speak and they'll set me free so he's saying he's not saying it's not a suicide. It sounds suicidal, but it may be exactly what he's saying. Being able to say something before you. [00:57:14] Speaker C: Die and as opposed to being yeah, that's clear, too. But he did swallow a bunch of volumes in unfortunately, I think he you know what I mean? He has struggled with depression. It is clear, too, in the movie, when he talks about what he says, I mean, like he said, the fact that he can say that everything he's done has turned to shit, I'd say to myself, wow, really? That's really not the case? [00:57:50] Speaker D: No. Well, in comparison that's what he's saying. In comparison to the gigantic fame that Metallica has been and that he was part of that. But again, if he would have stayed there, would it have been the same? It might not have been. Who knows what will happen? Maybe he's the one that dies in the bus crash and not Cliff Burton, right. Who knows? [00:58:17] Speaker C: Yeah. I mean, you take a well, like Van Halen. Did they sell more records with Sammy Hagar than they did with David Lee wrote? [00:58:26] Speaker D: I don't think so. [00:58:29] Speaker C: Either one of them, right? They both have their legacy. So for one of them to say, oh, what I did was shit, or whatever, but no, it's not. You know what I mean? I felt badly for him at that point, but he's also said people would jeer him and stuff. And I'm like, really? Come on. [00:58:48] Speaker D: I don't know. [00:58:50] Speaker C: I mean, they've set up their legacy. They're still going. They have massive hits. But in that movie, everybody's like everybody complains. [00:59:03] Speaker D: Yeah, everyone complains. But you know what? He's still not a Metallica. It's always going to be in his craw. That was in his hand and he let it go. You know what I mean? [00:59:19] Speaker C: But again, who knows where they would have knows where they would have been. [00:59:23] Speaker D: They may not have been the same Metallica. [00:59:26] Speaker C: I'm sure they wouldn't mean yeah, they couldn't have been, right? I mean, some things would have had to have been different. I mean, this guy's a major songwriter. Once he's gone, that's it. I mean, it's hetfield and so. [00:59:43] Speaker D: Yeah. Okay, let's continue. [00:59:49] Speaker A: If my heart was still alive I know it shouldn't break and my memories left with you they are stepping more moving on if I said my faith what it leaves behind you know the statement? I'll know more rain and eleven I die I will as soon as I meet Devil. There some walk I fear I'll never see I said um. [01:00:51] Speaker D: Before the chord this solo comes I would think I like this all already. It just started. So I'll just read the I'll read the last verse. If my heart was still alive I know it would surely break and all my memories left with you there's nothing more to say moving on is a simple thing what it leaves behind is hard you know the sleeping feel no more pain and the living are scarred then. Chorus yeah. There is some heavy parts of this, though, even though it is sort of kind of a ballad. [01:01:24] Speaker C: Yeah. When I said ballad, I probably shouldn't have made it like, well, again, never Say Goodbye, right? [01:01:32] Speaker D: No. But it's still not something that I would think that megadeth would do. So this is definitely a departure in that kind of thing. [01:01:41] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:01:42] Speaker D: It's good, though. [01:01:43] Speaker C: Really struck me as a big departure. I'm like, damn, it's a good song, though. [01:01:49] Speaker D: Yeah. But it's the hardcore megadeth fans that would be like, oh, it's not like this and it's not like that. But I don't think you can continue to do that forever. They're always going to be left fields and going to left field here and there. Unless you're AC DC, can you make the same record over and over and over? [01:02:13] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:02:15] Speaker D: Even then that's not the case either. [01:02:20] Speaker C: But they're probably the closest to it, though, right? [01:02:22] Speaker D: Yeah. If you could say from anyone. Yes, 100%. [01:02:25] Speaker C: But still, I mean, they're a standard. When people say even people talk about movies, they'll bring up AC DC. They said, you know what I mean? When a director or writer or somebody does something different and they'll, you know, it could be like AC DC, where you know what you're going to get. [01:02:45] Speaker D: Yeah, there's something to be said about that. Want he obviously was trying to push himself in a little more mainstream direction, probably after what happened the last record, it went really big. He was figured, well, we have to continue on this road because we're much more popular than we were five years ago. [01:03:05] Speaker C: Again, the songs are just they're solid songs. There's really good songwriting. So, again, I don't you know, if you want to say, oh, I don't I don't want to like this because it's it's it's megadeth and it's not whatever, but I like it. You know, they're just you could say that too. [01:03:24] Speaker D: Oh, yeah, of course. [01:03:26] Speaker C: But again, to say you're not going to like something because it doesn't sound like what you expect. And you don't have to either. I mean, you could say, I don't like this. This isn't. [01:03:40] Speaker D: Yeah, no, I know. Okay, here comes solo time. [01:04:06] Speaker A: Me. [01:04:10] Speaker D: Yes. See, it's so composed. That's a very composed thing. And it fits the song so perfectly. It's definitely away from the like you said, the stuff that was two or three records before this. This is definitely looking to capitalize on stuff that's very mainstream. Mainstream for the time. [01:04:32] Speaker C: I mean, it's a solo written specifically for in the context of the song. But, I mean, honestly speaking, once you write a song like this, where are you going to go with the solo? [01:04:44] Speaker D: Yeah, well, it could have been a little longer. It's fairly short, so it could have been a little longer. They could have been a little more stuff. [01:04:49] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:04:51] Speaker D: But obviously they didn't want to do that. They wanted to get back to the song. And it seems like this record is less about guitar solos than it is about the song. [01:05:00] Speaker C: Oh, absolutely. I mean, these are definitely clear cut songs. Yeah. [01:05:06] Speaker D: Well, and like some of the other stuff, you said that there are sections that are long, big breaks right. With just instrumental. [01:05:11] Speaker C: Absolutely. Even if you go back to a song like hanger 18, if you think about it, there really isn't a lot lyrically going on. There is a whole bunch of solos. There's different sections of different solos, but they're good. They drag you in. It's like let my Fire, you know what I mean? If I hear that song without the solos in it, like the keyboard solo, it's horrible to me. I can't stand that to a two and a half minute version of it. [01:05:40] Speaker D: That's really bad. Yeah. I'm really enjoying this record so far. Like I said, it's more I had. [01:05:48] Speaker C: A feeling you would. Yeah. I was like, I think because it's. [01:05:51] Speaker D: Kind of more in my wheelhouse. [01:05:53] Speaker C: Yeah, but, I mean, again, listen, if the songs are bad, even it doesn't matter, right. Even in your wheelhouse, if you don't like the songs. But I just know that I'm hoping I like the second side better than I remembered. And again, I don't think the songs are bad. I just think that obviously now, I'm pretty sure you would agree four for four. [01:06:16] Speaker D: Yeah. This is a super strong side so far. [01:06:19] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:06:20] Speaker D: I mean, it's a 50 minutes record, so we're going to have a couple more before the end of the side. So I'm curious to see if they can hold it together all the way to the end. [01:06:29] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:06:29] Speaker D: But so far it's been really good. All right, here we go. [01:06:39] Speaker A: I must say with you all, please. Wow. When you think about me my eyes are not I mean I need double just walk. My death is our last word I'll help I'll set me free unto the lord I need double bear these are the last. [01:08:26] Speaker D: Yeah. I like it. It's good acoustic guitar sounding good. [01:08:30] Speaker C: Little knots of fates of black there at the end. Yeah. [01:08:33] Speaker D: Well, that's okay. [01:08:34] Speaker C: It sounds like Pink Floyd. [01:08:37] Speaker D: True. [01:08:37] Speaker C: There's a pink floyd. [01:08:39] Speaker D: And then the end part, that was a little bit more like what I would think megadeth would do prior it's a little more of that dual guitar thing happening. And that was pretty good, too. Let me read the last, which I assume is like a half verse. So as you read this know my friends, I'd love to stay with you all please smile, smile when you think about me my body's gone that's all. And then two choruses out again. You can say it's maybe more like his songwriting is getting more evolved. [01:09:16] Speaker A: You. [01:09:16] Speaker C: Know what I mean? [01:09:17] Speaker D: It's not just about the heaviness, right? [01:09:20] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:09:21] Speaker D: Even though there's some of that in here, too. [01:09:24] Speaker C: Some of these bands that you think they can only write heavy stuff, but I mean, they can't. I mean, it goes to show that they have different facets and they can do heavy as well as I don't know what I would characterize this, but hard rock, heavy rock, I don't know that I'd even consider it metal, I guess. Metal. [01:09:51] Speaker D: Definitely. The other stuff is definitely metal. Whether this is I guess you have no choice but equivalent metal, but it's not really progressive because the other stuff would be more progressive. This is just kind of hard rock. It's not as metal as you would think. I mean, there's some heavy parts in here still, though. [01:10:09] Speaker C: Yeah, there are. [01:10:11] Speaker D: Yeah. This is like something I never heard. So I'm just so shocked that this is what this is. I'm like, wow, I was expecting there would be more guitar. I mean, there's enough it's fine from the stuff like that that I heard from countine to Extinction and Rest in Peace, that's a totally different it's not the same band. Even though it is the same band, they're more worried about the song here and having the song in a certain way as opposed to the other thing, which I think is sort of about the song, but more about what kind of instrumental stuff can we put in the middle of this song? It's more of a progressive thing than this is for me. [01:10:54] Speaker C: Yeah, but they're not cheesy, you know what I mean? It doesn't sound like a heavy band. [01:11:00] Speaker D: Trying to do commercial no. [01:11:02] Speaker C: And not doing it well. Right? I mean, ultimately, it's like the Black Album, where it's like the songs are definitely not as heavy. There's heavy parts in there, but they're strong songs. Okay, do you want to go first? [01:11:17] Speaker D: Yeah, I'll go first. I'm going to give a seven on lyrics. I think the lyrics in the last song I like better than this. Musicianship got to be an eight because there's no way you could say that everything is great, drums are great. I still am not paying attention to the bass. I need to pay attention to that. But, I mean, obviously he's holding it all down because it just all sounds good. And production eight again, he's doing an awesome job producing this record. It's very consistent. Like, you're not thinking that this song was recorded here and this recording was recorded there. It all sounds the same. Guitar sounds are good, bass sounds are good. Even his vocals, which can be a little quirky once in a while, they're doing a good job with that, too. So I like it. I like it. [01:12:09] Speaker C: Overall, it almost sounds like the album, if you said this was over recorded in one day, I'm like, yeah, I believe it. You know what I mean? That's how consistent everything seems. [01:12:20] Speaker D: Yeah. This, to me, is like their black record. This, to me, is like, something they're trying to do because they wanted to be more mainstream and without losing who they are. It's very similar. It's very similar. [01:12:36] Speaker C: Some of this on the previous album, but I nowhere near as well. [01:12:41] Speaker D: Maybe yeah, maybe they were heading in that well, like they said, the last record was really big, right, for them. So I think they wanted to keep that momentum going, and if they went back to something like Rust In Peace again, it probably wouldn't have kept the momentum going. [01:12:55] Speaker C: No, I don't think it would have been no. As big as this. And like I said, there's some definite MTV things. [01:13:05] Speaker D: I mean, this record went to number four. [01:13:08] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:13:09] Speaker D: So I'm just curious to see what did Count Time to Extinction do that went to number, what, two? Yeah. It's a big record. [01:13:24] Speaker C: Yeah. Well, that had a lot of MTV hits on it, too, though. I mean, Symphony of Destruction, Foreclosure Over Dream was a big one, which is so funny, because it starts out kind of like again, but then the middle gets heavy, like, pretty heavy. [01:13:40] Speaker D: So this is a million selling record. The prior one was a 2 million selling record. [01:13:45] Speaker C: I'm surprised that's it that sounds so low to me. [01:13:51] Speaker D: Well, I'm talking I mean, this is the RIAA for the United States. There's a little bit more in the rest of the world, but not that much. So it's about a million selling mean 1 million selling record. Good for them. If you sold a million records now, you'd be forget it, you'd be bigger than you'd be the biggest band in the world. [01:14:11] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:14:12] Speaker D: We can't even sell a million records now. No one buys music. Erin, why don't you go ahead? [01:14:22] Speaker C: So, based on the sentiment, I'm going to give the lyrics an eight. I know I give some of the other ones seven, but I like the sentiment of it and the fact that he was writing this, and they're saying some cool things. I'm going to say eight based on the sentiment, music in eight as well and production in eight. I mean, again, I could probably give these all nines, and I'm surprised that I'm not I'm being conservative for some reason. I may go back and change this. We'll speak during the week. [01:15:02] Speaker D: Okay. [01:15:03] Speaker C: But I could give these nines. But yeah. [01:15:09] Speaker D: Well, the next one is Lizzie and FIA. [01:15:10] Speaker C: Another great song. [01:15:12] Speaker D: Now, I don't know, what do you remember about this? [01:15:16] Speaker C: This is a good song, too. Very catchy chorus. [01:15:19] Speaker D: This again, megadeth and catchy chorus. Not something I expect, but it shows you that he's versatile in his writing. He can write the heavy stuff and he can write this, too. [01:15:33] Speaker C: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Again, it's got that edge. It's not thrash, obviously. It's not speedy. But again, it's not like when some of, let's say, the hair metal bands try to go heavy and it just really didn't come across as you know what I mean? This is bands that can transition and still do good songs. [01:16:01] Speaker D: Okay. All right, here we go. [01:16:14] Speaker A: You never feel it burn out my eyes I hope the end is less grateful than my life I stand on trial before the gods are just afraid of grave one last look at vision blood the last rope man on earth watch the pilots and watch his hands welcome. We are falling there I raise the ball and feel we ascend to watch out for me do we leave your field? You. [01:17:32] Speaker D: So this is kind of sort of like, what, medieval kind of because Elysium Fields are a thing for the Greeks, right? [01:17:39] Speaker C: Yeah. It's like mythology. [01:17:40] Speaker D: Yeah. [01:17:41] Speaker C: A place it's got religious undertones. [01:17:47] Speaker D: Interesting. [01:17:48] Speaker C: Especially when he talks about punches pilot. [01:17:52] Speaker D: Yeah. It's just interesting that because it's definitely toned down like guitar, sound wise, it's softened up a little bit for it to be a little more accessible to everybody, I think. [01:18:10] Speaker C: Yeah. I think the production is a little bit different on this one. [01:18:20] Speaker D: I think it feels a little softer. [01:18:22] Speaker C: It is a little bit softer. But, I mean, you see the part in the chorus, obviously, right. We kind of get that allegiance field kind of thing. [01:18:30] Speaker D: Yeah. It's so interesting to me to see a band that I always equated with super heavy fast stuff to hear this, like, wow, this is totally different. [01:18:40] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:18:41] Speaker D: All right. So uneasy feeling burning out my eyes. I hope the end is less painful than my life. I stand on trial before the gods on judgment day. A blink of an eye between the cradle and the grave. One last. Look at visions of flesh. The last hope of man on earth. Pontius Pilate still washing his hands. The world don't want to be saved, only left alone elysian Fields where a storm in the heavens to raise the swords and shields we send to our destiny to the Elysian Fields I mean. [01:19:12] Speaker C: Again lyrics are still pretty good. [01:19:14] Speaker D: Yeah. Lurks still pretty mean. It does feel mean. He gets lots of stuff out of his mean. Again, very similar to James Hadfield and just some of the imagery, you know what I mean? Which, again, makes sense. So you wonder how much influence each of them were on each other, right? That they read shame too. Very similar. [01:19:38] Speaker C: Oh, go ahead. [01:19:40] Speaker D: What's a shame. [01:19:41] Speaker C: It's a shame, too, that bands like this I mean, we heard it all the time, right? Oh, you like metal. Kill your mother, kill your father. And I'm like, really? I've never heard any of the songs I listen to actually say that. People kind of brush this stuff aside and they probably wouldn't listen to it. [01:19:59] Speaker D: Well, they won't. [01:20:00] Speaker C: Listen to it say, oh, there was. [01:20:02] Speaker D: Some bad cheesy metal. So there's bad cheesy metal, too. And the bad cheesy metal overrides sometimes. Stuff that people would say that would be thinking with lyrics that are a little more in depth and make you think a little bit because there's some. [01:20:21] Speaker C: Bad dismiss something like this, right, and saying, oh, we're not going to listen to the lyrics. The lyrics are probably by Satanism, but they're really not listen to listen to some of the stuff that these people write about, of course, and the way they write about it. [01:20:38] Speaker D: Let me go. [01:20:44] Speaker A: Down their wing super in the wind, man. Still have what degree? I said alone lay it down on it's like death to their love there's no blood alaska man. On earth in his ass the world don't want to be only we are falling the heaven raise up all baby um. [01:22:11] Speaker D: Yeah, even that's a different solo for them, I think. Wow. [01:22:16] Speaker C: Yeah, but that's a guitar. I mean, clearly. I mean, that's kind of like the same sound in the other I don't know if it was a harmonica, but even it's got the cowbell going. I mean, it almost I don't know what to do. [01:22:30] Speaker D: It's so weird to me. [01:22:31] Speaker C: Went to, like, 70s classic rock for that. [01:22:33] Speaker D: It was cool. [01:22:33] Speaker C: I mean, I liked it. Are you hearing the bass in this one? Because the bass is doing some pretty cool stuff in this. [01:22:40] Speaker D: Yeah, the bass is doing some good stuff on this. Yeah, I like it. He didn't stand out as much. Yeah. [01:22:48] Speaker C: Jimmy Williams. Harmonica Solo. [01:22:50] Speaker D: All right, I'm going to go back and listen to that again really quick. Let's go back and listen to that. Hold on. I need to pay a little more attention. Here we go. I mean, I don't know, man, it sounds harmonic. Ish it? [01:23:21] Speaker C: Yeah. It says Jimmy Wood. [01:23:23] Speaker D: So it's harmonica. [01:23:24] Speaker C: That actually reminds me, the harmonica solo from Smoking in the Boys Room. I wonder if it's the same guy. [01:23:32] Speaker D: I just find this so funny that we be mentioning Motley Crue and Megadeth in the same sentence, saying, well, those songs sound similar. [01:23:39] Speaker C: Well, listen, if you can mention Metallica and Motley Crue right, because of the producer. [01:23:44] Speaker D: Yeah, this is true. Got to look him just he looks. [01:23:50] Speaker C: Like he's straight out of Motley Crue, actually. [01:23:55] Speaker D: So the last verse was, soaring to the sun with blood upon their wings superstitious dust left twisting in the wind man still has one belief, one decree that stands alone the laying down of arms is like cancer to their bones. That's pretty good, too. I'm so weirded out by how commercially sounding of a record this is. I'm not sure. [01:24:28] Speaker C: I was going to say if this was a single, but. [01:24:31] Speaker D: I don't think so. No, the chorus is so I'm not sure if I'd like the chorus a lot. [01:24:45] Speaker C: I mean, I remember like, my friend looking at me we hit this together, he kind of looked at me like, that's really sounds and I was like, I don't know, man. Kind of digging it. [01:24:55] Speaker D: Yeah. No, I mean, I'm not saying it's not a bad song at all. I mean, I don't know if I. [01:24:59] Speaker C: Don'T like that during the pre chorus. [01:25:04] Speaker D: That doesn't bother me that much. The allegiance feels but to me is I don't know, it sounds like something else. I can't tell you what it sounds like, though. I got to think about that for a little bit. All right, let's continue this. I got to think about that's. [01:25:26] Speaker A: You ain't we love you. We are going. We are forever. Earth, rain. We are back to. [01:26:26] Speaker D: And then they did that little halftime drum thing that's so different. Wow. It keeps surprising me. And none of those songs really sound the same either. It's not like they're copycats of the same thing. [01:26:44] Speaker C: No. Again, this is not a song I never skip, but I'm listening to the album. [01:26:55] Speaker D: Well, why don't you go first? [01:26:59] Speaker C: All right. I'm going to say hmm. I'm gonna say seven on the lyrics just because I gave some other stuff eight. I'll say seven on the music. I mean, because I rated the other ones eight. I think it's really still a strong song, but not as strong as the other one, so I can't give it an eight. If I gave the other ones eight, and again, I may go back and give some of them nine. Production is fine. I don't know why in the beginning it felt like the production was a little bit off, but then, I mean, honestly, right after the first chorus, I thought everything was really back on track. So I'm going to say Nate on the production as well. What do you think? [01:27:48] Speaker D: Yeah, I think we're on the same page, like on everything here. So I'm going to say seven for the lyrics. It started to go a little too much into Dungeon Dragony, even though it's not what it is. It's more of the you know what I mean? It feels like something that could be a little in the cheesy heavy metal thing for me, but it's not bad. I mean, there's still some good parts in there anyway, but I don't think. [01:28:15] Speaker C: It'S as strong as some subject is serious. There's religious overtones. [01:28:19] Speaker D: Oh, yeah. It just comes off totally. [01:28:22] Speaker C: Hear what you were saying? [01:28:23] Speaker D: Yeah, it comes off a little bit too much like that for me. But listen, it's not bad. I just don't think it's as good as some of his other stuff prior. So, musicianship, I'm going to give a seven two. Interesting that they decided to put a harmonica solo in the middle of that song. It's weird for them. And then production eight, I think you're right. It started a little weird, but then I think it kind of worked its way out. And it wasn't as syrupy of a production it wasn't as soft. I mean, the song is a little soft. The chorus makes it really soft. I'm still trying to think of what that is. I'm sure it'll come back to me, but right now I can't think of it. [01:29:15] Speaker C: You just got to hum it over and over in your hand. [01:29:17] Speaker D: Yeah, I think so. I'm sure it'll come. So, next one is the Killing Road. Do you remember this? It's fairly short, like 358. [01:29:29] Speaker C: This one might be slightly heavier. [01:29:34] Speaker D: Oh, really? He read listen. [01:29:36] Speaker C: I know, but I'm talking about slightly. I'm not listening. Don't get blown away. I mean, listen, I know all these songs, without a doubt, so some of them I don't remember as much because, again, I think the first side is stronger than the second side. But I mean, looking at the second side, I can hum everything. [01:29:58] Speaker D: Wow, that's good. Well, I mean, generally, that is the Mo, right? First side is super strong. Second side not as strong. It tends to be what it is. But who knows, maybe you might like the second side more than you thought. [01:30:11] Speaker C: Yeah, I mean, I may remember. [01:30:15] Speaker D: Yeah, well, I don't know it, so. [01:30:17] Speaker C: I have no clue what yeah, I know. You have no frame of reference. [01:30:21] Speaker D: I have zero frame of reference. Like I said, all my frame of reference is what I think. I keep saying Metallica, what megadeth is, and this is definitely not what I think it is, but it's not bad. Yeah, they're very well written and crafted. [01:30:39] Speaker C: Exactly. Well put together, well produced, well played. [01:30:47] Speaker D: Okay, here we go. The Killing Road. [01:30:52] Speaker A: And catch another name this behavior wide and do it over me lost my mind I lost my life doing. [01:32:07] Speaker D: This is interesting lyrics for him. It's not something you hear him write about. [01:32:15] Speaker C: It's about touring. [01:32:17] Speaker D: Yeah, no, I know, but it's just strange. Like, I wouldn't expect him to cover the subject at all. [01:32:24] Speaker C: But you do hear a little bit of writer. Technically, it's the heaviest riff. [01:32:29] Speaker D: Yeah, it is. But it's not, though. [01:32:34] Speaker C: Yeah, well, I think what it is, is a production. I think so. I mean, if you take the lyric, the riff, apart from the kind of once they go into the song played at a different production at a different point, it would have been a heavier sounding song, I think. [01:33:00] Speaker D: I can see that. I guess. Yeah. I mean, maybe it is the production that's making a little know. [01:33:06] Speaker C: Obviously it's a conscious choice. It's not like Max Norman is like, hey, you want the song to be really heavy, but I'm not going to make it sound heavy. [01:33:14] Speaker D: No, but I mean, if you if. [01:33:16] Speaker C: You think about the actual riff, there's a way to play this riff where it sounds I think it could come across very heavy and probably even sped up a little bit. Everything's really been mid tempo, pretty much. [01:33:38] Speaker D: Yeah. So lyrics are again we stalk the stage at mock speed we engage feeding people's rage the big cats left its cage back in the bus again to catch another plane the behavior is quite insane but we do it for the fame. I lost my mind, I lost all my money I lost my life to the killing road it repeats that again. I don't think for me this is as good of lyrics as the prior songs. [01:34:08] Speaker C: Maybe because it's just very metal. 80s metal sounding lyrics. [01:34:13] Speaker D: Yeah. I was going to say. [01:34:19] Speaker C: It sounds like this is something that he wrote when he was in Metallica. [01:34:24] Speaker D: Yeah, but he says that none of this was old stuff. This was all new stuff. Well, I don't know. Very who knows? [01:34:30] Speaker C: You know what, too, though? I mean, he wants to paint an image, right? [01:34:36] Speaker D: Yeah. For that thing. He's painting an image of the road. Right. Why he does it. [01:34:43] Speaker C: I lost my life imagery, too. Right. Something the fans can kind of grasp. [01:34:51] Speaker D: Yeah. Well, it's just that some of his other stuff is a little more intricately written that when you see this, you're like, Why is this so simple? [01:34:58] Speaker C: Yeah, this is the most simplistic lyric. This feels like again, it either sounds like early, like Metallica hit the lights stuff that's very simplistic about playing live and again when they're kids, or. [01:35:23] Speaker A: I. [01:35:24] Speaker C: Mean, I could picture again some hair metal bands talking about touring. And this is kind of like what they would write. It rhymes. Kind of like the scorpions could be almost like what do you call it? Rock me like a hurricane Lyrics like that. [01:35:41] Speaker D: Yeah. You know what it's like with rock me like a hurricane. You tend not even to listen to the lyrics anymore. It's just the melody and the song, really. I know. I don't really listen to the lyrics when I listen to that song because it would be silly. [01:35:56] Speaker C: Yeah, they're just simple lyrics. I mean you know what I mean? They're about what they are. And that's it? There's no metaphors or no, not at all. [01:36:07] Speaker D: All right, here we go. [01:36:12] Speaker A: Always stop looking around I love you telling I lost my mind lost out my mother I lost my life again SA. [01:38:00] Speaker D: Well, I do like his guitar playing better than Kirk Hammett, I must say. [01:38:04] Speaker C: Yes. [01:38:06] Speaker D: It's a little more interesting. It's not the same kind of thing over and over. [01:38:11] Speaker C: So that was supposedly Marty on the first one and then Dave on that second part, I guess, from that. [01:38:17] Speaker D: Yeah, I can hear that. So that's what was broken up. [01:38:21] Speaker C: And, I mean, honestly, that was my favorite part of the song, was the instrumental part of it. Again, you hear that riff, right? I mean, it is a heavy riff. [01:38:32] Speaker D: But it is very early 80s sounding. [01:38:35] Speaker C: Yeah, but I mean, if they were to kind of speed that up, whatever, it would be a different song with the same riff. [01:38:43] Speaker D: You know how you can tell his guitar playing is different when he plays all his song. Whatever note he chooses and the notes he chooses, and the scales he plays, it's very Eastern sounding a little different. [01:39:00] Speaker C: He has a lot of that going. [01:39:02] Speaker D: Yeah. So so you can see when the change happens, because Dave Mustang doesn't play that way. No, it's totally different. All right, let me read lyrics before we finish it up. So the road will never end it always starts again another snows around the bend another long lost friend now, is that supposed to be some reference to Cliff Burton somehow? Sort of. Kind of. [01:39:30] Speaker A: No. [01:39:31] Speaker D: I don't like when I heard it. I'm like maybe that's something to do with. [01:39:39] Speaker C: Hear it. And when you hear bus in any of this context, you're going to think, right, but, I mean, obviously they travel by bus a lot because he mentions a plane, too, doesn't he? [01:39:51] Speaker D: Yeah. [01:39:51] Speaker C: In the first verse, he mentions to. [01:39:53] Speaker D: Catch him by plane, but another shows around the band. Another long lost friend maybe not, who knows? Faces as the snow there's nothing special about the road it's just another hall. It's just too damn long, that's all. So these lyrics are not as good, I don't think, as his lyrics prior. [01:40:13] Speaker C: No, they're very on the nose. [01:40:15] Speaker D: Right. Yeah. Or maybe this is where it starts to change. Maybe, like you said, maybe the second side just doesn't it's not as good as this first side is. So maybe this is where the change starts to happen. [01:40:28] Speaker C: Yeah. I mean, this is my least favorite song on the first side. [01:40:32] Speaker D: I agree. [01:40:33] Speaker C: But I do like that instrument. But I think the solo part is really strong and I think the riff is strong. I think it just one of those songs where, hey, this song is about this and that's it. [01:40:49] Speaker D: There's no double entendre, there's nothing metaphor, there's nothing. This is what it is. [01:40:54] Speaker C: I mean, I just think, had they made it a little bit had they gone with a little bit heavier production on this and a little bit maybe even faster. [01:41:05] Speaker D: The whole record is not like this. They're kind of keeping it the same production all the way through. But, yeah, it does make the riff a little not as heavy. All right, we got, like, 50 seconds. Let's see what this let's see what they end up with. [01:41:25] Speaker A: Lost all my money I lost my feeling I lost my mind lost all my money, I lost my life feeling I lost my mind I lost my life get it wrong I lost my mind I lost. [01:42:17] Speaker C: You'Re kind of waiting it to do that, right? That double tempo kind of thing wasn't doing. They only did it to the at the end. But I'm saying, if think about the song played even at that speed, but with, like a double bass going right, and kind of like that steady beat. Had they done that I think the song would have been more interesting and heavier. [01:42:37] Speaker D: Yeah. [01:42:38] Speaker C: Because, again, I like the riff and I don't dislike the song. Again, I don't skip the song when I've listened to this thing, because it still has a good power behind it. [01:42:50] Speaker D: Yeah. It's just not as good as the songs prior, that's all. I mean, it's not bad. [01:42:54] Speaker C: Yeah. Because I think it's a song that needs to be heavier and it's not, whereas the other ones don't necessarily need to be, but this one kind of does. [01:43:03] Speaker D: Yeah. All right, so I'm going to say for lyrics, I'm going to give it a six. I don't think it's as good as the other stuff he's done. Musicianship, I really like the solo in the middle. I like the drums, actually, too, the drums. He's a really good drummer, nick Menza. [01:43:20] Speaker C: Yeah, Nick Menza was yeah, he was a good drummer. He died. [01:43:23] Speaker D: Did he pass away? He's still alive. He passed away, right? [01:43:27] Speaker C: Yeah, he died. [01:43:31] Speaker D: So I don't know, what can I I'm going to say seven there. I would like to give it higher, but I don't know, it doesn't grab me like the other stuff did stop. And then production, I'm going to give a seven on there, too. I think the production does mess that up a little bit, you know what I mean? It does soften out that riff a little bit, where you're right, it could have been a little heavier and it would probably be better if it was a little heavier. [01:44:08] Speaker C: Yeah, I think I'm probably going to say the same. I mean, obviously, I can't I voted other lyrics seven that were definitely better than this, so I'm going to give it a six. Music I'm going to say seven, too, because I just think there was again, I like that main riff. I really liked the solo part and I think if it kind of kept more within that context and within that last part, it would have been a better song. And I'm going to say production on seven, too, because I don't think there's anything wrong with it. I think he did exactly what was expected within the context, but maybe if they all sat and said, hey, listen, this is the last song on the first side, let's kind of boom, you know what I mean? [01:44:58] Speaker D: Yeah. [01:45:00] Speaker C: Well, a little bit heavier. [01:45:03] Speaker D: I'm pleasantly surprised that I like it as much as I do. [01:45:08] Speaker C: It's a very strong first side. [01:45:10] Speaker D: It's a super strong first side. [01:45:12] Speaker C: Yeah, it's very strong. [01:45:14] Speaker D: I mean, there's really nowhere to go but down, unfortunately. It'd be hard to say they're going to hold this all the way through, but I don't know, I've never heard it, so I'm taking your word for it that it doesn't go that way. But I don't know. [01:45:32] Speaker C: None of these songs suck. No, but I'm saying there's probably albums, when you think about it, and you're like, oh, my god, it starts off so strong, and then by the time they get to. [01:45:47] Speaker D: Yeah, this is definitely a strong side. [01:45:50] Speaker C: It's not as strong from what I remember, but again, it's been a while. It's been a while. And again, the point of why we do this is to kind of relisten, too, right. And rediscover and think about, well, you. [01:46:02] Speaker D: Usually have the time you usually don't have the time to listen to a record straight, you know what I mean? Listen to an album through everyone's. Add is so messed up now that you can barely get through a song before you want to change it to the next one. [01:46:14] Speaker C: Yeah. Breaking it apart, too, kind of. Sometimes it makes you appreciate the song more, too, sometimes, because sometimes the sum isn't as good as the parts, for whatever reason. [01:46:29] Speaker D: That's definitely true. I think that's true in this song, too. Right. The sum is not as good as the separate pieces. I think the best parts of the solo. [01:46:39] Speaker C: Yeah, I agree. I would have been okay if they had extended it a little bit more. [01:46:44] Speaker D: Yeah, I'm surprised. And they're not really big into doing anything at the ends, really. That doesn't really happen very much. [01:46:51] Speaker C: No. [01:46:52] Speaker D: At least not on this record, anyway. [01:46:54] Speaker C: Yeah. This is a very self contained you know what I mean? Very. But again, I mean, the songwriting is strong. [01:47:03] Speaker D: Yeah. Oh, it's good. I like it. All right, Sabina, so we're done with side one, so next week we'll finish side two up. [01:47:14] Speaker C: Hopefully we can attract our brothers back. This is the record we're going to see kicking themselves. I'm sure. [01:47:23] Speaker D: I'm sure Steve wouldn't been happy if he didn't get this. [01:47:26] Speaker C: Yeah, I'm very happy that we I mean, megadeth, honestly, is probably they're up there for me. I mean, in terms of metal, without a doubt, they're up there for me. So I'm glad we got them. I think Mark's going to like this. [01:47:46] Speaker D: Yeah. I like some of the other stuff I heard. Just the expectation for me, because when I don't listen to a band through their records and I only know the things that I've heard on either radio or back in the day video or whatever right. I'm not expecting listen, even if we. [01:48:02] Speaker C: Got Rest in Peace, I think you'd like that, too. [01:48:05] Speaker D: I think so, too, but it's really. [01:48:07] Speaker C: Good songwriting, and I mean, you want guitar solos, man. [01:48:11] Speaker D: Oh, yeah. Well, that's what I was expecting here. Not that there's not guitar solos, because there are, but it's definitely different. [01:48:20] Speaker C: Oh, yeah. [01:48:21] Speaker D: Definitely different. Yeah. All right, savino, why don't you do your thing? [01:48:26] Speaker C: So we are part of the Deep Dive podcast network, as I always say. Great bunch of guys took us in right away when we were babies. Now we're, what, a year and a year and a half yet now a year and four. Three months. Right. August is four months. [01:48:44] Speaker D: Birthday, three or four months. [01:48:46] Speaker C: Yeah, but I've been on there a while. Again, if you want more individual and probably knowledgeable people, that's where to go. You'll find stuff. Again, the Rush Rash guys are on there, so I want to give a shout out to them. Great show. And hopefully we'll be just got to figure it out. We'll be jumping on their podcast as well and probably have them back on ours, so shout out to them. And you got Deep Purple queen. You got Maiden, you got AC DC. I mean, you name it, they're on there, so check them out. And Mark, where can we be found on the interwebs? [01:49:22] Speaker D: We can be found at Rockwillet Pod on the interwebs rockwilletpodcast.com. I stuck a thing on Twitter trying to get people's super groups of the 60s. We may be doing some kind of a special episode thing coming up, so we want to try to get everybody's their super group for, like, the late 60s rock scene. Like, who would you put in whatever position? So if you get back to us, either rockrelletpodcast.com, Twitter, whatever, send us a message, reply to the post. I'll probably post up a bunch of more times, see how many people give us some information. [01:49:57] Speaker C: We'll shout you out, too. [01:49:59] Speaker D: Yeah, we'll shout you out. [01:50:00] Speaker C: Hey, this is who blah, blah, blah. Picked these guys. A little five minutes of fame. Brag to your friends that you were on. We were on Rocket, and once they say, who the hell is that? [01:50:14] Speaker D: Who the hell is that? Nobody. That's who it is. All right, guys, we will see you next week. Later.