Episode 67 - Megadeth - Youthanasia (Part 2)

[00:00:00] Speaker A: You. [00:00:04] Speaker B: This is our musical reaction, breakdown and commentary analysis of this song. Under fair use, we intend no copyright infringement and this is not a replacement for listening to the artist's music. The content made available on this podcast is for educational and informational purposes only, notwithstanding a copyright owner's rights under the Copyright act. Section 107 of the Copyright act allows limited use of copyrighted material without requiring permission from the rights holders for purposes such as education, criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research. These so called fair uses are permitted even if the use of the work would otherwise be infringing. Now, on to the rock Roulette podcast. [00:00:49] Speaker A: You. [00:01:14] Speaker C: Hey everybody. Welcome back to another episode of Rock Roulette podcast. That's right, the Crazy Ass podcast that took over 1100 albums, stuck it in a list and we stuck it in a wheel. And typically every other week we spin the wheel and she picks an album for us and we do a side per week, unless it's really short, which doesn't happen, especially since we tend to yap a lot and we go through track by track and we judge or rate the music, lyrics and production just based on our own personal taste. Again, just a bunch of guys who wanted to do a podcast. No professionals here, nothing overly serious. We just have a bunch of fun. And again, as always, we'd like to start out by thanking anybody who listens to us. We really appreciate it. Numbers have been steady, obviously we'd like to see them grow. We have a bunch of followers, it seems. So if you guys are following us, please check out the podcast, spread the word, give us some high ratings and talk to us. Tell us what you like, what you don't like, comments. Who knows, maybe something you'd want to hear from us. Pick an album. I mean, we can call an audible. It's fine. So this week we have mark. Oh, hi Mark. [00:02:21] Speaker D: What's up, guys? [00:02:23] Speaker C: And I'm sad. So last week the wheel picked megadeth euthanasia for us and we did the first side. And what do you think, Mark? Pretty strong, right? First side? [00:02:35] Speaker D: Yeah, I liked it. I didn't think I was going to like it as much as I did. [00:02:42] Speaker C: Yeah, this one was, I guess, a little bit more obviously a bridge towards something that's a little bit easier on some ears. I think countdown to extinction was a little bit heavier, but there definitely had some tones. This one is a little bit more polished, but really good production. And again, my thing is, if a band makes good songs, it makes good songs. So I think that these songs are pretty strong, that well written music and melodies and some of the lyrics, except for that last one we kind of agreed was a little bit cheesy. So, yeah, I do remember the second side not being as strong, but again, it's been a while since I've kind of heard the whole thing straight through the first side I definitely have memorized. So this one. A little bit of a rediscovery for me, too, I think, so I'm excited. Yeah. [00:03:30] Speaker D: It's much more of a mainstream thing than probably some of the earlier stuff. [00:03:35] Speaker C: Yeah, absolutely. [00:03:37] Speaker D: It's not as progressive thrash as the other stuff is. [00:03:41] Speaker C: No, there's no thrash on this album. [00:03:43] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:03:44] Speaker C: At least not so far that I remember at all. [00:03:50] Speaker D: Let me pick up some lyrics. You would think I would have done this ahead of time, but, you know. [00:03:59] Speaker C: It just shows it's on the fly. It's all right. It shows how random we are. [00:04:05] Speaker D: We're random. All right, so I guess the next one is blood of heroes here we. [00:04:47] Speaker A: It's pretty good. [00:04:58] Speaker C: Yeah, I remember this song and the next one, so it was a pretty good song. Yeah, I do. Sometimes it just takes a little bit of a jolt, but, yeah, I absolutely remember. [00:05:08] Speaker D: Especially if you haven't heard in a long time. [00:05:10] Speaker C: Yeah. But, yeah, I mean, like I said, I've always really liked this record, so I've definitely listened through it straight through a few times. But this is a pretty catchy course, too, from what I remember. [00:05:24] Speaker A: Let me tell you. Better left for dead and now we are on our mission for free of it. My niece went into the pride. Let's get one thing straight just after me time and going up my diamond, ladies and gentlemen, now it's your side. Angel in our pocket never my life we ain't gonna go as a demo till I die, you name if I die run a hero. [00:06:35] Speaker D: Lyrics pretty good in this, too. [00:06:38] Speaker C: Yeah. A little about the band. [00:06:42] Speaker D: Is that what this is about? [00:06:45] Speaker C: It's actually in the free course, like skin of my teeth is the opening track from the last record. Killing time, I'm assuming refers to killing is my business, which is their first record. [00:06:59] Speaker D: Okay, so walking stiff, let me tell you, better off, better left for dead and now we are on a mission while it's full speed ahead my legion is when we do the crime let's get one thing straight to get there early is on time and showing up on time is late ladies and gents, we're still alive by the skin of our teeth now it's killing time angel in our pocket devil by our side we ain't going nowhere because heroes never die still alive blood of heroes never die they never die he does that again. So this is about the band. [00:07:35] Speaker C: I like. When he says to get there early is on time, and showing up on time is late. [00:07:41] Speaker D: That's something that everyone tells you. If you're there on time, you're already late. [00:07:48] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:07:51] Speaker D: That. I'm late a lot because I'm barely ever there early. It rarely ever happens. [00:07:58] Speaker C: I used to get to places early, but I used to get to the area early, like for interviews and things like that. Just kind of walk around, shake out any butterflies or whatever. Check out the area. Like, oh, if I work here, what's around here? Kind of thing. [00:08:18] Speaker D: Yeah, I like the riff and stuff. So far, everything's pretty good. This is definitely something that is way more accessible, I think. And that's maybe why I like it, because it's much more accessible. [00:08:32] Speaker C: Yeah, but again, I mean, accessibility doesn't make a good song, right? [00:08:36] Speaker D: No, this is true. [00:08:38] Speaker C: So I think that it's good stuff. [00:08:43] Speaker D: So how were these things taken by people, by Megadeth fans? They like this? Or were they like, what the fuck's going on? [00:08:51] Speaker C: So I like the band again, now with the Internet at 2 seconds, you can read about everything, right? So my circle of friends that also like Magadeth, they were fine with this record. Like they said it was softer, but they liked the songs. And then again, seeing them live, all these songs, I don't remember if they played this one, but even something like train of consequences, they play it heavier, locked. So even if it comes across a little bit softer here, when they played it live, it became a heavier. And again, it wasn't like they sped it up, but the energy of it was heavier. [00:09:31] Speaker D: I wonder if they're doing any of this stuff nowadays. [00:09:35] Speaker C: I'm sure they are. I would think so. I mean, it's a pretty record. I'm pretty big record. I'm assuming a lot of people want to hear this stuff. What do you mean? In terms of style? [00:09:48] Speaker D: No, just like these. [00:09:50] Speaker C: Okay. I was like, no, because they've gotten heavier. It's kind of gone back to the heavy. A lot of. [00:09:57] Speaker D: Lot of. There's a lot of guitar in this. Just. It's different. Like I said, it's different. Like I said last week, for me, it's different than other stuff I've heard. [00:10:04] Speaker C: Yeah, well, I mean, you got missain, who's a lead player, right? And then you got Marty Friedman. Imagine not having solos. [00:10:11] Speaker D: Yeah, it's probably not going to happen. [00:10:13] Speaker C: That's crazy. [00:10:14] Speaker D: Yeah. Okay, here we go. [00:10:17] Speaker A: Run down every hill chase upon the dead streets what if you try to cut us out? You'll get up in the deep lady kiss now it's your side fashion of your head round time to rise up it's time to be a mortal shall I die ra. [00:11:33] Speaker D: Pretty good. [00:11:35] Speaker C: Yeah. I was going to say kirk Hammond on solo. No, see, there was more melody in that. [00:11:42] Speaker D: Yeah, there's a way that you use the wa a certain way, and that's kind of the right way. It's kind of weird. Like, I have a different appreciation for him listening to this record because I always think of him as, like, the super shred guy, and that's all that happens with him. But obviously not. Obviously. There's a lot of melody in this stuff, too. [00:12:04] Speaker C: I mean, this is not cacophony stuff, but even on the other stuff, it was a little bit more controlled. And they're trading solos. [00:12:12] Speaker D: Yeah. When I was looking through the stuff, it said that he does all the solos, supposedly, but I don't know how Patriot that is. [00:12:18] Speaker C: It could mean I'm looking at this website that says, pretty much says Marty Friedman. There was one word said Stain had a solo, and there was nothing that was played. I was waiting for. Yeah, but there was no solo. So I don't know. I don't think this website is completely accurate. [00:12:34] Speaker D: Yeah, probably not, but. Yeah, no, I like it a lot. I like the drum sound. Drum sounds good, too. [00:12:41] Speaker C: Yeah, they kicked up the drum sound on this one, even with the standard, because, like I said, the drums were a little bit muffled in rest in peace. And then the remaster was really good. Captain's extension was a little bit thin on the production, I thought. So if we ever get it, if I remember correctly. [00:13:02] Speaker D: Yeah, because I think they're doing a good job. And this is 94, right? So this is like the Miller grunge, too. So this thing sold a million with grunge being the primary popular form of music. [00:13:17] Speaker C: Yeah, I mean, like I said, MTV got a hold of these guys. [00:13:24] Speaker D: But were they playing them on MTV now, during this time? [00:13:31] Speaker C: I don't know. Where do you go for music videos? If you go. I don't mean to sound old, but obviously there was MTV, right? Then they stopped and they did MTV two, which was only supposed to be music videos, and then that stopped, I think. I don't know if it's just a three or they did something else VH one, didn't they? Yeah. And the VH one stopped, too. They were doing a lot of shows and whatever. Yeah. [00:14:00] Speaker D: I was just wondering around this time whether they were being played a lot or not. [00:14:05] Speaker C: Oh, wait, on this album. [00:14:07] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:14:08] Speaker C: Oh, yeah. Train of consequences was a big one for sure. [00:14:13] Speaker D: I wouldn't think they would do it with all the grunge stuff. I think they would only be playing that. [00:14:17] Speaker C: Yeah, they did like a special with them, I want to say, in tune with the release. In time with the release. I think they did a Halloween show on MTV. I'm just remembering from my VHS tapes. I want to say that it was around this time. I don't think it was the album before. [00:14:43] Speaker D: I don't remember. [00:14:44] Speaker C: I think that helped. [00:14:46] Speaker D: Yeah, probably. All right, so here's some lyrics. We've been run down every hill chased up all the dead end streets but if you try to cut us out you'll get a kick in the teeth ladies and gents, we're still alive by the skin of our teeth now it's killing time fasten up your headbelts take time to ride disguise it's time to be immortal because heroes never die what are headbelts? Fasten up your head. [00:15:09] Speaker C: I don't know if it has to do with Vic Rattlehead, their mascot. [00:15:13] Speaker D: Oh, see, I know nothing about this. [00:15:16] Speaker C: Or even, like, the electric chair, I guess the head. [00:15:19] Speaker D: Oh, maybe. Yeah, that's a good idea. Yeah. And his voice, to me, is different than some of the other stuff that I heard earlier on. It's more melodic. Does that make any sense? Like, in some of the other stuff, it feels a little more nasally and this. It's a little different. It's like when James Hetfield's voice changed, you know, in between whatever and the blackout one. Right? [00:15:42] Speaker C: Yeah. It's funny because, I mean, I was going to say he doesn't have necessarily the greatest of voices. You're not going to say, like, oh, yeah, he's up there with Steve Perry and whatever, but he makes it fit the music so well. So I think you don't picture this without him. It's such a big part of it and the way he uses his voice. [00:16:08] Speaker D: Yeah, but the singing is different, though, right, from any other stuff? [00:16:12] Speaker C: Yeah, no, but he's always kind of had that voice, you know what I mean? [00:16:19] Speaker D: But wasn't it more nasally? Kind of. [00:16:22] Speaker C: Yeah, but he always played around. He always did kind of like that speaking, singing kind of thing. I'll be honest, I don't know the first album too. Too well. But even going back to, like, peace cells, if you think about that song, what do you mean? I don't believe in God, so he does a lot of speaking in that. So it's kind of. I think maybe he's doing a little bit more singing, I could say here, but he's still got that speaking kind of singing thing going. [00:16:57] Speaker D: Yeah, well, it just feels more melodic to me. Maybe that's just because of the kind of music it is. Maybe it's just because it's different. Yeah, I like it, though. All right, let's continue. [00:17:08] Speaker C: Yeah, it fits the music perfectly. [00:17:10] Speaker D: Yeah, 100%. [00:17:16] Speaker A: They never die love a hero they never die what I hear lot of hero, they never. I wanna hero, what a hero, what a hero. [00:18:06] Speaker D: That'S pretty good, I gotta say. I never thought they were, like, in my, like, thing to like them because. No, I'm just saying because sometimes maybe it wasn't as accessible. [00:18:19] Speaker C: I totally understand. [00:18:21] Speaker D: This, for me, is way different than I think. I keep saying that over and over. I know it sound like a broken. [00:18:26] Speaker C: Record, but I'm very surprised. Like I said, rest in peace is one thing, but again, not everything on rust in peace is thrash. It's not. It's really not at all. They're just solid songs. And it's a lot of mid, uh. And it's more of songs that kind of start a certain way, but they have kind of middle pieces that get to get faster. But even in this one, if you notice, I think it was right before the solo, there was like, that little part where they were paying, like, heavier chords. So that's kind of like even what they did on the last record. Like, again, a song like foreclosure of a dream that starts with, like, an acoustic guitar, you're like, okay, but if you don't pay attention, you don't realize how heavy the middle gets. So he's good at doing that too. And the bass is solid, too. [00:19:24] Speaker D: Bass is good, yeah. All right, so why don't you go first? [00:19:34] Speaker C: Let me see. I mean, the lyrics are okay. I'll say seven on the lyrics. Music. I'm going to say seven too. I mean, I think it's a good song. I just don't think it's as good as some of the other stuff that I gave eight to. Production is good. I mean, let me see. Yeah, I'm going to say an eight on the production. Everything is clear. You pick up on, again, that part that got a little bit heavier. So I think it's just right for what it is. What do you think? [00:20:05] Speaker D: I think I'm doing the same thing. I think the lyrics are better than the killing road lyrics. So I'm going to give that a seven. Musicianship. Everything was good. The solo was really good. The rhythm playing is really good, the guitar tone is really good. Drums are good. Everything's good. So production, I'm going to give an eight, too. So far, I haven't given much less than a seven, I don't think, to anything in production wise. Yeah, it's real good. [00:20:31] Speaker C: It's funny, they did the two songs together. [00:20:34] Speaker D: What? [00:20:35] Speaker C: They did the two songs that are the killing road, which is about being on the road, and then blood of heroes, which is about the band. [00:20:41] Speaker D: Yeah, it's the band thing. So the next one is family tree. Here we go. [00:21:27] Speaker A: The mind was on the run the only way out of pain turn around, run through it, man wet comes from the rain tell them I know they would do it to you we don't like doing it to me. Let me show you how I love you but secret in the family. [00:22:20] Speaker D: Is this about what I think is about abuse? Yeah, it's got to be. He doesn't hold back. [00:22:29] Speaker C: No, he's always written about. I mean, he gets political in his songs. He definitely gets psychological. [00:22:43] Speaker D: Yeah. I like the bass playing was really good in that. That beginning part and the beginning of the verse. And that riff that comes in. Both of them are playing is pretty good. I like it. [00:22:58] Speaker C: I remember listening to it for the first time. But my friends in the car, friends back then, one of them was like, what the hell is up with that? Course, when it's sushi, it's that bad. He was like, what, the movies over there? [00:23:10] Speaker D: Yeah. Well, I mean, it's a tough subject, too. He's tackling a tough subject. [00:23:15] Speaker C: It's not that bad, though. [00:23:18] Speaker D: All right, so here are the lyrics. Forgotten things remembered the tigers eat their young the body stayed but inside the head the mind was on the run a conspiracy of silence the only way out of pain is turn around, run through it, man too wet to come in from the rain tell them I know they were doing it to you, but don't try doing it to me. Let me show you how I love you. It's our secret, you and me. I'll keep it in the family tree. The secret of the family tree anyone tells you it's our secret. It's our secret. It's always bad. So, yeah, it's a tough subject. He's tackling some tough stuff, but it's not that much different than Metallica. Metallica tackles tough stuff, too, so you can see that obviously they come from the same thing. Obviously. They were in the same band and they covered things there, too. [00:24:14] Speaker C: This is not as a heavy band. Right. Subjects that you can write about, maybe. I think you could still keep it heavy. So things like this war. [00:24:24] Speaker D: Yeah, that makes sense. All right, let's continue. I'm going to back it up a little bit. [00:24:36] Speaker A: Don't wait. See what's next. Thrown to the wall forever trusting, racing a form of living hell single one living that was in your heart shadows your family tree within the dark I fail I know they were doing it to you but don't try doing it to me no let me show you how I love you in my secret let me show you how I love you let me show you how I love you in my secret let me show you how I love you. [00:26:25] Speaker D: Mean, that's. That's damn good guitar playing. He's really good. Like I said, I have a newfound respect for his playing. [00:26:35] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:26:36] Speaker D: Because I thought it was seriously one dimensional kind of stuff. I don't know. On other stuff, it's a little less shred here, I think. [00:26:45] Speaker C: Right. [00:26:45] Speaker D: Than some of the other stuff he does. But it's still really good. [00:26:50] Speaker C: Yeah. I mean, considering his. But it goes to show a lot of these guys, right. They wound up in bands. The shrapnel guys. Like, he wound up in this. You had who, you know, for a heartbeat, wound up with David Lee Roth. Steve Howe did his own band with his brother, who's the other guy, too. [00:27:13] Speaker D: It was really good. It was really good and melodic and it was composed really well. There was a beginning, middle and end, like some people. That doesn't really happen, so hats off to him. And the bass playing is really good on this. I like that they're just singling it out in the verses. [00:27:30] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:27:33] Speaker D: And we're not really talking about the drums too much, but the drumming is really solid. [00:27:38] Speaker C: Oh, yeah. Very solid. He's a good drummer. Yeah. [00:27:42] Speaker D: This is Nick Menza, right? [00:27:43] Speaker C: Yep. Nick Menza. [00:27:45] Speaker D: Yep. Okay, so here are the lyrics. When you hear them saying trust me don't wait to see what's next. No shit, right? [00:27:54] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:27:58] Speaker D: When someone says trust me yeah don't trust that especially in that situation yeah. Especially. Thrown to the wolves forever trusting raised in a form of living hell sing a one note song of rage live and die within your heart so beware in the shadows your family tree waits in the dark and then goes to the chorus again. [00:28:23] Speaker C: It's really good lyrics. [00:28:25] Speaker D: Yeah. No, I mean, obviously it is showing you. Exactly. I wasn't sure what? It was about right away. And then I was like, oh, once I got to the middle of that thing, I was like, I see what's going on. [00:28:37] Speaker C: But it is. And you know what I mean? He still does it in a roundabout, kind of. [00:28:43] Speaker D: Yeah. It's not like metaphoric way. So pointed. Yeah. [00:28:46] Speaker C: He's not like, oh, I'm going to slap you and hit you and whatever. I like the way he's doing it. [00:28:52] Speaker D: Well, I'm assuming this is sexual abuse. That's what I think it is. I don't know if it's just beating up kind of abuse. Well, I mean, you could take it either way. [00:29:07] Speaker C: It's both. It could be both. Really? [00:29:10] Speaker D: Yeah. Reading it again, it's very possible. It could be both. [00:29:12] Speaker C: Yeah. I think it's like just abusing, you know what I mean? Like any kind of abuse in general. [00:29:19] Speaker D: Yeah. Now I've read another part of it, I'm like, yeah, well, I can see how it could be other. It could be taken either way. All right, so we got 44 seconds. Let's play it out. [00:29:33] Speaker A: Secret let me show you how I love you for giving a family let me know how I love you if I. Secret you and me let me show you how I love you yeah. [00:30:12] Speaker D: I like the little background vocal he does to himself. That's pretty cool, too. And they faded out. [00:30:18] Speaker C: Yes. [00:30:19] Speaker D: You don't hear a lot of fades, even back then. [00:30:24] Speaker C: I don't remember anything fading on this stream. [00:30:26] Speaker D: No. So far there's been no fade. No, this is the first fade. That was really good. I liked it. I'm going to give the lyrics eight, I think. I like the lyrics a lot. I like how he works around things and not just like putting it out there, but just using metaphor to change things around, like that musicianship was really good. Marty Freemore was great. Again, I'm going to give that eight and I think I'll give production. [00:30:52] Speaker C: Mean. [00:30:52] Speaker D: It'S not a perfect song, but it's pretty damn close in this kind of genre. You know what I mean? It's really good. [00:31:01] Speaker C: I'm going to say an eight on the lyrics as well. I really like them. I'm just going to say seven on the music again, not because I don't like it, but because I gave eight to other things that I wanted to give nines to. So based on that, I have to keep it at a seven. But, yeah, production, I'm going to say eight again. I mean, it's clear and it keeps the heaviness of whatever they're doing. And so I like it. It's clean. [00:31:31] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:31:31] Speaker D: It's not too compressed? It's really good. [00:31:34] Speaker C: No, not at all. [00:31:36] Speaker D: Yeah, that's awesome. All right, so next thing is the title track. Do you remember this one at all? [00:31:43] Speaker C: I'm sure once I hear it, I will. [00:31:46] Speaker D: Okay, so this is euthanasia. [00:32:22] Speaker A: The same barrier we telling people how to believe. Wet get out. That's what they give you. I can't help but think I can't help but think I can't help but. [00:33:01] Speaker D: Be. [00:33:04] Speaker A: In the themselves too high up I feel my life thanks for the information. Don't need no more anything why can't help me why can't help me why can't help me I'm gonna back that. [00:33:49] Speaker D: Up a little bit in a second, but, yeah, this is. This is a fairly heavy song, too. Is this the heaviest song you think so far? [00:33:56] Speaker C: Yeah. I don't know why I think I wouldn't remember these songs, but I remember every single one. I mean, I definitely listened to this record a lot. [00:34:02] Speaker D: Yeah, obviously. [00:34:04] Speaker C: Yeah, I remember this. [00:34:07] Speaker D: Okay, so here are the lyrics. Who'd believe with the way things are here we'd be going anywhere telling people how to live who believe we'd spend more shipping drugs and guns than to educate our sons sorry, but that's what they did. I can't help but think someone's forsaken you and me luck desert so I can't help to think I can't help to think I can't help to think someone's forsaken you and me then second verse is. Luck deserted me in the truth beat out my brains men rise on stepping stones of theirselves to hire things I stepped over lots of bodies on my way thanks for the information. Don't need no more anything then I guess there's going to be another verse coming up. [00:34:54] Speaker C: Think it's a chorus? [00:34:55] Speaker D: Actually, there's a chorus and then it's coming up, right? Yeah, they're good lyrics. It's funny, like, you listen to stuff like this and like, wow, this could actually be right now. [00:35:08] Speaker C: Yeah, could be anytime. It's funny because, you know that song Eva destruction from the 60s? For whatever reason, my wife was talking to my daughter about it and I guess she thought about the lyrics and everything and saying how. I mean, you listen to it, it's like, jesus, how many years later it. [00:35:32] Speaker D: Still rings true because everything goes in cycle. [00:35:37] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:35:38] Speaker D: And even if you don't realize it, history repeats itself. I'm going to back this up. And then I'm going to get to the next verse. [00:35:51] Speaker A: With our heart we didn't want us any way and now we'll make my mind to tell us how to run my. [00:37:18] Speaker D: That's pretty good playing, too. That's some hard stuff in. Go ahead. [00:37:26] Speaker C: I was going to say that the website that I looked at says that stain is the first solo. I think it makes sense at this time because you can hear a difference in the two parts. [00:37:37] Speaker D: Oh, you mean the part where they're playing, like, those fast things at the beginning where there really wasn't a lot going on and then. [00:37:43] Speaker C: Yeah, and then it's kind of. [00:37:47] Speaker D: Really good. This is more what I think of Megadeth, though. Like, if I'm thinking of them, this would be more closer to what I would think. Some heavy riffs. The drumming is really good, too. Almost don't pay attention to the drumming because it's so good. [00:38:05] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:38:06] Speaker D: Does that make sense? [00:38:06] Speaker C: Solid in the pocket. Yeah, absolutely. [00:38:10] Speaker D: He has a really good pocket. Yeah, he has a really good pocket. [00:38:13] Speaker C: Very good. It's a good drummer. [00:38:15] Speaker D: I like it a lot. [00:38:17] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:38:17] Speaker D: Okay, let's finish up. [00:38:20] Speaker A: After all the world we are back in the heart we out to drive anywhere and now I'm breaking out my mind you tell us how we are easy. [00:39:03] Speaker D: That was a cool way to end like that. [00:39:05] Speaker C: Yeah, I was hoping he would end. That was like. I think he ends it that way, if I remember correctly. [00:39:10] Speaker D: Yeah, no, he knows how to write songs. It's really good. See what I was been missing all these years not listening to that. [00:39:23] Speaker C: Yeah. And again, it's stuff like this from like, dude, don't shame yourself, man. You've written some really good songs. [00:39:32] Speaker D: Yeah, well, you know, I mean, again, but I know it's not Metallica. Yeah, but I mean, that's what he's saying. [00:39:40] Speaker C: Yeah, but I'll take this album over. Load. Reload. [00:39:43] Speaker D: Oh, yeah. This is around the same time as what? Load and reload. Right around the same. Similar time frame. This is way better than that. [00:39:51] Speaker C: Yeah, I think so. [00:39:53] Speaker D: We've only done reload, but it's definitely better. [00:39:57] Speaker C: If I remember correctly, it's better than load, too. [00:40:00] Speaker D: I'm sure. [00:40:00] Speaker C: Not a fan of those albums. [00:40:02] Speaker D: Yeah, well, I think they just took the black thing a little too far. [00:40:09] Speaker C: Again, like, I'll say, it doesn't matter what it is. If it's a good song, it's a good song. Again, this is our opinion. Right. But somebody out there saying, what do you mean? Those are great. You know, that's what music is. [00:40:28] Speaker D: I mean, for me, this is way better than reload, I think so. It's much more again, you know, Metallica had an impossible job, right, to top the blackout. It was impossible. It's an impossible thing to do. You only get records like that once, usually. You know what I mean? Maybe twice, depending on who you are. So you come off a big. It's like AC DC, how you top him back in black, you know what I mean? How you still might write good records after that, but it's going to be impossible to top that. All right, so I'm going to give the lyrics. Do I like him as much as the last one? I'm thinking, I don't know. I'm going to give him an eight again, because I like it. I think I'm going to give him eights across the board. I think it's a really good song. [00:41:28] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:41:30] Speaker D: It's more in the vein of what I would think Megateth is, but it's still more accessible than I think some of the other stuff is. So, I mean, this record, I'm surprised. I mean, it only did a million copies. I would think it would have done more. [00:41:45] Speaker C: I thought it did more, too. I'm actually really surprised because, like I said, it definitely got. [00:41:49] Speaker D: Yeah, but it was the time, though. If this had come out. If this had come out four years beforehand, it would have been bigger, but in the middle of grunge, you know what I mean? It's hard. Not much metal is doing anything at this point, but except for very few artists. So for them to sell a million records, right, in this situation, that's great. [00:42:17] Speaker C: Yeah, I'm pretty sure the tour was successful. [00:42:20] Speaker D: Yeah, I'm sure. So what do you think? [00:42:26] Speaker C: Yeah, I like the lyrics. I'm going to see an eight on lyrics. I'll see an eight on the music. I mean, I like the fact that they brought some of the heaviness in there. Like I said, I may give nines, maybe go back, we'll discuss, I'm going to say seven on production. The only reason I'm saying it is because there was a heaviness there that I wish was brought out a little bit more that I felt was a little bit subdued. And again, it was clear. It was fine. There was nothing wrong with it. Just a little bit. If I got to criticize, I'll just criticize. [00:43:05] Speaker D: No, yeah, I know, but I tend to think that this is what the album is going to sound like, and they've been pretty consistent about sounding the same way. [00:43:12] Speaker C: Consistent? Yeah. I mean, that's why, like I said, it had that little bit of that heaviness in there that I was like, I just wish he kind of. And again, it could be a band thing again. This is a band that I think is especially Dave Messain, who has a good handle on what's going on. You know what I mean? I don't think they're. [00:43:31] Speaker D: Oh, it's his. [00:43:32] Speaker C: Yeah. So. [00:43:36] Speaker D: All right, so the next one is. I thought I knew it all. Do you remember this one? I'm sure you remember when we stopped playing. [00:43:42] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:43:43] Speaker D: Okay, here we go. [00:43:57] Speaker A: There's a reason I think go like this somewhere there's reason run my finger we don't now see them for what they really are. But I know there be such a sense maybe I don't like it but I got the. I know someone hears my voice maybe I don't like it but I have no way I know that somewhere someone hears my voice why I do it all I thought I knew it why I got it why couldn't we? Why I can with every reason no. [00:44:59] Speaker D: It'S not light song. It's heavy, but there's very good melody that makes sense. So even though it's not just like yelling stuff on top of that riff, and the riff is really easy, it feels like it's one chord. [00:45:16] Speaker C: It's kind of metallicy. I thought, too, if I heard James Hepfield kick in, I would say, well. [00:45:25] Speaker D: Again, I hear a lot of Metallica in this. And I mean, again, why wouldn't you? [00:45:30] Speaker C: Yeah, well, I mean, at this point, though, I think it's far enough removed where it kind of reminds me of black album Metallica. Kind of like that little Dunza. And I'm a sucker for that Dunza. [00:45:41] Speaker D: Acord, whatever, which I'm pretty positive that this is a conscious effort to make their music more accessible. Probably the last record, it started, right? And it's just working its way through now. Because what I read, the last record, there was similar stuff on that record, too. [00:46:03] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:46:04] Speaker D: So they were kind of working their way through. I mean, listen, you see Metallica sell 15 million records with the black album, right? So you're thinking, I can do the same thing as them. I write just as good stuff as they do. There's something to be said that this is not a bad record at all. I'm not seeing the second side being worse than the first side. [00:46:25] Speaker C: No. Yeah. I thought it was more OD, but like I said, I guess I didn't remember. But, yeah, I remember really liking this record. But who knows? Sometimes you listen to something and it doesn't grab you the same way. Right? So it could have been the last time I listened to it, for whatever reason, the situation. But now I'm like, dude, what the hell are you thinking? The side is really strong, too. [00:46:49] Speaker D: This side's really strong. [00:46:50] Speaker C: I think the first side is stronger overall, but I mean, this is definitely not a bad side. This is not. [00:46:56] Speaker D: No, this is like, oh, forget it. There's not a lot of filler here at all. [00:46:59] Speaker C: No, not at all. No, not at all. [00:47:02] Speaker D: Okay, I'm going to back it up a little bit. Well, I guess I'll read lyrics, I guess first, then. Somewhere there's a reason why things go like they do somewhere there's a reason why some things just fall through we don't always see them for what they really are but I know there's a reason but I just can't see it from this far and then maybe I don't like it but I have no choice I know that somewhere someone hears my voice and he repeats that a whole bunch of times and then I thought I knew it all I thought I had it made how could it end this way? I thought I knew so do we know what the song is about? [00:47:36] Speaker C: The consensus is it's just in general, like, why do things happen the way they do? So you kind of think, I guess you're kind of coasting along and then something happens. You're like, I don't know. I don't understand. Why did that happen? [00:47:51] Speaker D: And he kind of keeps his songs very fairly generic, you know what I mean? Verse, chorus, pre chorus, chorus. He doesn't stray too much around for that. But that's okay. It doesn't have to be weird. [00:48:03] Speaker C: No. [00:48:04] Speaker D: Some people like to mix that stuff up. But this sounds good. [00:48:08] Speaker C: Yeah. Plus, if you are trying to be more accessible, if you do have, like, a pattern. Right. As humans, we always look for patterns and things. So I think from that standpoint, too, we're like, okay, there's going to be pre chorus or chorus. I mean, he does a lot of pre choruses, which a lot of bands don't do. [00:48:26] Speaker D: Yeah, almost all the songs have pre chorus, it looks like. [00:48:29] Speaker C: Yeah, I think they do. It's cool. It kind of breaks it up and it helps you make the song longer, too. [00:48:37] Speaker D: Yeah. But I do understand when he says that everything he does is shit, because Metallica basically is the biggest metal band in the world. Right. And even though Metallica, Slayer, Megadeth and anthrax get thrown in that big four thing. We all know who the big dog is. [00:48:59] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:49:00] Speaker D: So to want. He wants his band to be as big as Metallica, and if it's not as big as Metallica, to him, that's a failure. [00:49:11] Speaker C: Yeah. I just feel bad, like, if I was in that, like, Dave, come on, man. Let's go in the car. Let's go listen to some of these songs. Let's go listen to this, and let's go listen to load and reload. And you'll feel. [00:49:27] Speaker D: Sometimes you can't see the forest through the trees, though, because you have to know that your record is better than that. There's some bad stuff on those records. They shot their load. No pun intended. Or pun intended. [00:49:49] Speaker C: I tried shooting it twice and missed. I mean. [00:49:52] Speaker D: Yeah, well, no, they shot it all in the black album, and then they tried to. And then they. [00:49:56] Speaker C: They. [00:49:57] Speaker D: And then. That's it. All right, let's continue. [00:50:04] Speaker A: My things don't go my way that I cannot explain like the chase season it may not be my turn but I know there's reason the laugh at my love maybe I don't like it but I got some good I know somewhere someone hears my voice maybe I don't like it but I got some fear I know somewhere no one hears my voice why? Thought I knew it all I thought do it. Why might I put it? Why not I do what might I do? [00:51:41] Speaker D: So are they saying that's all Marty Friedman on that one, that website? [00:51:45] Speaker C: Yeah, that's what I said. [00:51:47] Speaker D: I like the second part is really good. They changed the riff underneath it. That's pretty neat. And you got a little bit of extra bass stuff. Yeah. It's just, you know, Marty Friedman. [00:52:00] Speaker C: I think this song bears a little bit of resemblance to addicted to chaos. There are certain points where that, like, the thing they do in the guitar and also the way his melody pattern bears a little bit of resemblance to that. It's reminding me of something. [00:52:24] Speaker D: Yeah. I'm obviously not breaking any new ground here saying that Martyr Friedman is a great guitar player, obviously. Yeah, but obviously you couldn't go through the 80s learning guitar and playing guitar and not knowing who he was. But I never really listened to him. I mean, obviously I knew he was a good guitar player. I heard some more stuff lately, even before we did this, to know he's a really good guitar player, obviously. But it's just one of those things. Like, it wasn't on my radar, but a good guitar player is a good guitar player. I don't know how there's no one can say that he's a great guitar player and not even good. [00:53:04] Speaker C: But that's, again, it's not though, right? Sometimes you hear about musicians and you're told that musicians are good, right. But you haven't really listened to them or you've heard them, but you haven't really paid attention. And then you pay attention and you either realize, holy shit, yeah, they're really good. Or you say to yourself, and maybe just because it's not your. The way they. The way they mean. Like George Lynch, I would say to. I mean, you know, he's a good guitar player, but you may say, but it doesn't do anything for me. I know he's good, but just the style of what he does, but it doesn't mean so, yeah, that's why it's good. Again, that's why it's good to do this podcast. Because again, just breaking up the parts and listening to what everybody's doing. [00:53:52] Speaker D: And listening to the whole record street through is a different thing than just picking one track here, one track there, because you can hear that all these songs are made to sound very similar, at least on this record anyway. [00:54:03] Speaker C: Yeah, there's definitely a theme, a thread that runs through. I agree. Very mid tempo. [00:54:11] Speaker D: Yeah. And mid tempo can sometimes be the kiss of death. Mid tempo. But in this case they're not. [00:54:17] Speaker C: No, because the songs are well written. [00:54:19] Speaker D: Yeah. All right, so let me finish the lyrics up. Somewhere there's a reason why things don't go my way somewhere there's a reason that I cannot explain just like the change of season just may not be my turn but I know there's a reason the lesson is mine to learn then he does pre chorus, then he does the chorus, names the solo. Now we're back into the chorus again. And there's a little bit league guitar going on the chorus, which is pretty cool, too. It's very airy. I don't know, for a better word, it's not as heavy as euthanasia, I don't think. But there's always heavy elements in there. They're presented in a way which doesn't bash you over the head. Exactly. [00:55:01] Speaker C: That you got to pick up on. Right. There's heavy riffs in there, but they're kind of toning it, so you may or may not pick up on it. [00:55:11] Speaker D: Yeah, I mean, similar to the way the black album was, right. There was heavy stuff on there, too, but it was produced in a way where it was very accessible. [00:55:21] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:55:22] Speaker D: Cool. All right, here we go. [00:55:36] Speaker A: Why not? I do. I thought I knew. [00:56:18] Speaker D: We're back here again. [00:56:21] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:56:23] Speaker D: I'm trying to think, can I give it less than last time? I don't know. Why don't you go first? [00:56:33] Speaker C: I was going to say I'll let you think about it. I mean, it's a good song. I don't think I like it as much as the other one, but it's still not a bad song at all. I'm going to say seven on the lyrics. I'll say seven on the music. [00:56:52] Speaker A: And. [00:56:52] Speaker C: I'll say an eight on the production. So again, probably a song that I'd let play. I don't think I'd skip it. I don't think I'd skip anything on this record, honestly. What do you think? I'm thinking sometimes it takes a bit. You can skip around. That's what I do sometimes when I'm like, I know I want to give the music this or the production this. [00:57:28] Speaker D: I'll say seven on the music. I mean, seven on product, on the lyrics. I'm still going to give it eight on the music because I think the music is very well done. And I'm going to do eight on production. Again, I think it's really well produced. I mean, I haven't heard very much bad here. Yeah, I haven't heard any bad here. So kudos to the production team. And they have a style and they're sticking to it. Yeah, it's good. I like it. [00:58:02] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:58:03] Speaker D: All right, so next thing is black curtains. [00:58:06] Speaker C: Yeah, I think this one's a little bit heavier. [00:58:08] Speaker D: Okay, let's see. Here we go. [00:58:11] Speaker C: I think he says black curtains. [00:58:13] Speaker D: Black curtains. [00:58:13] Speaker C: From what I remember. [00:58:24] Speaker D: That'S very Metallica for me. [00:58:27] Speaker C: Yeah, I hear Metallica there, too. [00:58:29] Speaker D: Yeah. And again, he's totally okay with doing that. For me, if he wasn't in Metallica before, we'd be like, I don't know, but since he was. Yeah, I think it's fine. There's one thing I would say, though, that the drums would be way different, because I think Lars would have went into that really quick pattern that he normally does. Yeah, the double time. He would have double timed that, I think, where Nick Menza doesn't do that. [00:59:05] Speaker C: No, there's definitely more of a groove here. [00:59:08] Speaker D: Yeah, I like it. I think it's better than double timing it right there. [00:59:17] Speaker A: Hey, look around you. Everything help us? Delta left enough. I want you. [00:59:49] Speaker D: Yeah, I like that a lot. [00:59:51] Speaker C: Yeah, I remember I was right. Yeah, I remember the song. I do remember better, like I said, than I thought. [00:59:58] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:59:58] Speaker D: So lyrics are. Hey, look around you everything's helter scouts. Listen up, I warn you run for cover. Run. Bang, it happened. Time's up Armageddon fire meltdown the sky is crumbling in black curtains never ending yeah, and I like the groove. The groove is really good. [01:00:17] Speaker C: Definitely. Also a little metallicy on the melody, too, though, right? Yeah. [01:00:21] Speaker D: You could hear. [01:00:21] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:00:22] Speaker D: Even on the vocal. Even on the vocals a little bit, too. You're like, wow. [01:00:26] Speaker C: Absolutely. [01:00:28] Speaker D: I'm going to back this up. [01:00:33] Speaker A: Can't find no place is more than it stopper on my tongue face coming. Name? Black captain black captain never make it captain under my something's very strange telling me to do am I dreaming my heart past my chest help the ranch in a fight I swear no one hears my call never ending it sadly. [01:02:32] Speaker D: Kind of started to sound a little bit like Hammett. [01:02:36] Speaker C: I tribe with that solo modem. I don't know. This thing just says guitar solo. I felt like the beginning was him, and then maybe the second part was going to kick in and sound like Marty Friedman. But I felt like that other song, it sounded like two clear, different styles. I felt like this one was the same, so I didn't sound as much freedman to me, but it could have been him. I think it sounded more to what I attribute to. [01:03:03] Speaker D: So what is it saying on there? This is saying that it's him. [01:03:05] Speaker C: First it says guitar solo. That's it? [01:03:10] Speaker D: That's it? [01:03:11] Speaker C: Yeah. All the other ones are pretty specific. But like I said, it also said at one point that mustaine had an outro solo. I forgot what song it was, but there clearly was no solo going out. [01:03:26] Speaker D: Okay, so let me read some lyrics first before we talk about the solo escape. You're joking. Can't find no place to run hair is burning my flesh is bubbling up blood is boiling taste of copper on my tongue fate is coming welcome it with a smile black curtains never ending he does that a bunch of times. Never ending fall. Then there was some talking in the middle. That is not on my lyrics here. [01:03:52] Speaker C: Actually, if you want me to read it out real quick, read it. He's saying something's under my skin something's very strange playing with my mind tempting me to do you in so what. [01:04:05] Speaker D: Is this song supposedly about? [01:04:07] Speaker C: Like, nuclear fallout? [01:04:10] Speaker D: Makes sense, basically. [01:04:11] Speaker C: Yeah. It's very metal, right? The lyrics are very straight up metal lyrics. [01:04:19] Speaker D: Yes. And then it says, am I dreaming? My heart pounds in my chest hell for ransom and spider's web suffocating no one hears my calls never ending till the black curtain falls and solo. Yeah. So at the beginning. That's what I'm saying. At the beginning, to me, it sounded like Kirk Hammond. So maybe it was. Maybe it was Dave Mustaine. And then it definitely went into Morty Friedman after that. I'm not positive. Someone else knows. [01:04:46] Speaker C: Yeah, exactly. I felt it was like I said that other one where there were two solos. I felt like it was very distinct, the two of them. But this one, I felt like this one as much until the end, when it got a little bit more. And again, I don't know how technical. Davis. I probably should pay more, but I never really paid attention. Like, I knew if it was a good solo, but not exactly who was paying. Like, I didn't care who was playing it, let's say. [01:05:13] Speaker D: Well, that one sounded like, to me, like, if you asked me, that, to. [01:05:17] Speaker C: Me, sounded like guitars better than mine for. [01:05:22] Speaker D: Well, yeah. To me it sounded like. It was like, wow, that sounds like Kirk Hammond. I'm like, but wait a second. Maybe that might be Dave Mustaine. I mean, I can't always tell know. Obviously, Marty Freedman can be a little more technical, I think. Yeah, but obviously Damon stain is a good guitar player, so. Yeah, so it was really good. I like it. I like the groove. I like that there's no real double time. This is another, like, mid tempo song, but it's not to kiss a death here. The mid tempo, though. [01:05:55] Speaker C: No, again, it's awesome. It goes to show, if you can write a good song, I mean, there really isn't a lot of. I mean, the tempos have to be pretty straight across the board if you took a running count. [01:06:09] Speaker D: All right, let's finish it up. [01:06:10] Speaker A: Here we go. Operating as death is moving down I'm family how long I love my breathing my legs are alive don't find me my life is fading back black condition never make it like a Jesus fall it black cat. [01:06:53] Speaker D: Yeah, it's really good. Yeah, really good. [01:06:57] Speaker C: Very strong. [01:06:58] Speaker D: Super strong. [01:07:00] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:07:01] Speaker D: All right, I'm going to go first, I think. [01:07:03] Speaker C: Okay. [01:07:04] Speaker D: I like the lyrics, too. I don't know. I'm going to give them a seven because I can't give everything an eight. But the lyrics are really good. I like them. I don't know if the chorus. The chorus is fairly simple. I think he's had better choruses than that. So maybe that's for the seven, I guess. Musicianship. I'm going to give it an eight again. Everything is solid. Drums are solid. Bass is solid. The riffs are solid. The guitar playing is solid and I'm going to give eight on the production again. It's like a broken record. It's like a broken record. I'm sure there's going to be tons of these songs that are going to be. This almost whole record is going to be on the Spotify playlist. [01:07:42] Speaker C: Yeah, that's good. [01:07:44] Speaker D: It's almost going to be almost impossible not to be. [01:07:48] Speaker C: Hopefully. Maybe these people haven't heard it right. [01:07:52] Speaker D: By the way, we have Spotify playlists from all the albums, just in case anyone was curious. All of our picks are up on. [01:08:05] Speaker C: Of what does it do? It kind of goes by the ratings. [01:08:09] Speaker D: Yeah, it goes by the ratings over a certain number. It pulls them. And then we post them on Spotify so everyone can see what the favorites were. And they may not be your favorites, but that's okay. All right, why don't you go and. [01:08:24] Speaker C: If they're not your favorites, please tell us why and tell us what your favorites are. [01:08:27] Speaker D: Yes. And share the episodes. We say share the episodes. Please share the episodes. [01:08:32] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:08:33] Speaker D: All right. Why don't you go? This has been a public service announcement from rock Lip podcast. [01:08:40] Speaker C: Exactly. [01:08:41] Speaker D: Go next. Go ahead. [01:08:43] Speaker C: The good old days of the psas. Remember all the metal bands. Don't drink. Don't do this. Like, okay. [01:08:50] Speaker D: You're all doing example. Oh, that's why you have to do this. Okay. You crashed your car and killed another guy and hurt two bunch of people. Just do a PSA. That'll fix it all. [01:09:01] Speaker C: Yeah, exactly. No prison time. [01:09:03] Speaker D: People out there know who we're talking about. I'm sure I don't even have to say it. [01:09:06] Speaker C: Crazy. [01:09:07] Speaker D: I know. Go ahead. [01:09:11] Speaker C: So I'm going to say. I mean, I do like the lyrics. They're really. All right. Music. I'm going to say seven again because I gave eight to the other things. And I'm going to say eight on production. I'll say a seven on the lyrics. [01:09:27] Speaker D: Yeah, they're good. [01:09:28] Speaker C: Just because I know I've wrote it something high. But again, he does a good job, too, even in simplicity. [01:09:38] Speaker D: Yeah, that. [01:09:41] Speaker C: He's a good. [01:09:43] Speaker D: Yeah. There's no shame in giving it an eight. Even things you might think could be a nine. Eight is really good. We look at all the records we do. How many things are getting eights all over the place? [01:09:57] Speaker C: No, this is definitely strong. And like I said, I could probably bump up, like, reckoning day, what do you call it? Train of consequences. And I mean, the first three I could probably easily bump up to nine on the music and I was debating because I'm like, I kind of remember everything, but I'm not sure. So hold it here. But I could probably bump those up to nines and keep the eights at the eights and feel better about it. But like I said, there's really no filler on this record. [01:10:30] Speaker D: No, I don't feel there's a lot of filler at all. There is any. [01:10:36] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:10:36] Speaker D: All right, so the last one is victory. Do you remember victory? [01:10:41] Speaker C: I want to say yes. [01:10:43] Speaker D: Okay. [01:10:43] Speaker C: I'll probably know as soon as I hear it. Oh, yeah, I do. I took a quick spot at the lyrics, so I remember this. Absolutely. Yeah. [01:10:51] Speaker D: It's pretty cool that he's doing that in this lyrics. If anyone has any idea about any kind of other megadeth songs, I'm actually. [01:10:59] Speaker C: Glad I remember every single song. I didn't think I would. I didn't think I would. [01:11:03] Speaker D: Well, yeah, if you listen to it a lot, eventually you can be. [01:11:07] Speaker C: I mean, I definitely did. [01:11:10] Speaker D: So here we go. Victory now one day I thought of. [01:11:13] Speaker A: Telling everyone and I was matter time last night am I being battled in my head Good Friday while I wake up there am I superstitious in this mean I think shit has happened since I conjure it not close, not even close not even close to my eyes that we don't make my face I'm not who my heart I am a victory. [01:12:22] Speaker D: Now to me am I wrong that this is more of a. The song is more sounding like older stuff. [01:12:33] Speaker C: Yeah, but it's cleaner. [01:12:35] Speaker D: Yeah, no, I'm just style, though. [01:12:40] Speaker C: Again, not everything, obviously not everything they've done. I mean, they've done songs that are. I mean, this does remind me a little bit of wake up dead, kind of like. Again, that one's heavier. It's dirtier. Kind of. [01:12:52] Speaker D: I mean, he's doing a pretty good job throwing all his song titles into a song. [01:12:56] Speaker C: Yeah, I totally remember this. This is awesome. [01:13:01] Speaker D: Yeah. I'm not too sure I'd like the melody that much, but I'm giving him credit for jamming all his stuff into one thing, and he's got more even coming. [01:13:11] Speaker C: Yeah. It almost, I would think, be better served if he kind of spoke it a little bit more. Not wrapped it. You know what I mean? Not to that extent. [01:13:22] Speaker D: We'll see. Let's see. So, we're getting to. So I guess I'll read the first one, I guess. Now, one day, I started telling everyone that killing is my business, and I was hung like a martyr for looking down the cross my skull beneath the skin prophesized last rites love to death, my friends then I started seeing bad omens in my head gormorning Black Friday will I wake up dead? If I ain't superstition then this won't mean a thing but some crazy shit has happened since the conjuring and then not even close, not even close, not even close to overdose had fingers in my eyes, had needles in my veins a knife right through my heart I am victory so is there a meaning behind throwing all these things together or what are they saying? [01:14:06] Speaker C: Yeah, it sounds like he's basically saying maybe people thought he would have been done by now. [01:14:13] Speaker D: That makes sense. [01:14:15] Speaker C: That's kind of like what I it's. [01:14:16] Speaker D: Pretty cool that he's throwing all those song lyrics in. I always like when that happens and they reference themselves. That's good. All right, let's continue. [01:14:34] Speaker A: My darkest hour, combustion out of wealth satisfying all it was I'm a father, get on my feet this was my life made a pass on the beast just be a black dream you not even close, not even close not even close to what my soul has been done in my eyes I'm not right who? My heart victory I think I live in my life I. [01:15:42] Speaker D: Before we get to the solo, I'll read the lyrics. Came anarchy to set the world afire pain of hook and mouth in my darkest hour corruption of the world peace sells but nobody's buying ignorant religion holy wars and the dying tornado nearly got me by the skin of my teeth this was my life, foreclosure of my dreams may the past rest in peace in hangar 18 and count on to extinction just be a bad dream. Lucretia said, not even close, not even close, not even close to overdose I had fingers in my eyes, had needles in my veins, a knife right through my heart I am victory, I am a victory. [01:16:22] Speaker C: Technically, he said like lucretia said, and she does. That's how the song starts. Lucretia, he does that little. [01:16:30] Speaker D: Oh, there you go. Yeah, it's pretty kind of, he is kind of jamming some of these things together. Yeah, and like I said, I'm not too fun. [01:16:39] Speaker C: You know what I mean? Like, he's just having fun. [01:16:41] Speaker D: Yeah. I mean, I'm not too thrilled with the melody of the verses, but it's pretty cool that he's throwing all this stuff in. We're going to see. I mean, there's a lot more time to go, so I'm wondering how much, how big the solos part is going to be. So let's see. [01:18:04] Speaker A: Not even close. Not even close. You want my soul happy? I am. I think. I figure I need a bit of my face. I am. [01:18:36] Speaker D: I'm gonna stop before we finish it. But that solo was pretty crazy. Yeah, it was very technical. Like, listen to some of that stuff. Like, wow, how the fuck does anyone do that? [01:18:48] Speaker C: That's exactly what this song needed. [01:18:51] Speaker D: Yes. [01:18:52] Speaker C: I'm glad they went there. [01:18:54] Speaker D: Oh, yeah. I definitely needed it. Even in the choruses. I hear a little Metallica in that a little bit. But again, there's nothing wrong with that. And this is definitely, again, a little more of a throwback thing. Like, music wise, I think it's not. [01:19:18] Speaker C: As accessible as the tongue in cheek kind of thing. Right. You know what I mean? [01:19:21] Speaker D: No, I know, but it's not as accessible. It's not as accessible as the rest of the record. I don't think the rest of the record is trying real hard to be accessible. [01:19:31] Speaker C: No, I'm saying some people that may have liked some of the other songs might find this one a little bit. [01:19:36] Speaker D: Yeah. It's not as conscious, I don't think, as the other songs are, to be very mainstream, more mainstream than what they did earlier on. You know what I mean? But it's cool, like I said. No. And the cool factor of putting your own titles in your song, it's pretty cool. [01:20:02] Speaker C: And it plays for the fans, too. [01:20:03] Speaker A: Right? [01:20:04] Speaker C: I mean, as a fan, I can appreciate the fact that I know all of these songs that he's talking about in album titles. [01:20:12] Speaker D: All right, let's finish it up. We got 27 seconds. [01:20:25] Speaker A: In my eyes in my life. [01:20:40] Speaker D: Why don't you go first, then? [01:20:42] Speaker C: I think I'm going to go eight across the board. Because, again, lyrically, I'm not saying it's as deep or whatever, but I just like what he did, and I like the referencing of the songs and knowing the stuff. So just for the fun of it, I'm going to say eight. I mean, I really like the music, obviously, the solo. I'm cool with the extended solos, especially when they're interesting and they're cool to listen to. Like I said, there's definitely parts of, if we ever get rest in peace, if you haven't heard it, it's just like minutes and minutes of just solos, but they're really good. So you're not sitting there going and, yeah, production is clear and it does what it has to do. I think it's a strong way to close the record, honestly. [01:21:28] Speaker D: Yeah, the sides have been really good. I'm only going to give seven on the lyrics because I'm not too thrilled with the melody and the verses. But otherwise, I think it's pretty cool that he put all that stuff in there. I'm going to give eight on the music and eight on production because obviously it's not let me down through this whole record. And again, to me, I don't think this is a very weak side at all. [01:21:54] Speaker C: No, I don't know why. Again, I think because again, I just didn't remember how much I liked these songs, too. And who knows? Like I said, maybe the last time I listened to it, I wasn't paying as much attention or had a bad day. Sometimes this stuff doesn't sit with you for whatever reason. But I mean, just the fact that I remembered every single song on this record just goes to show how much I've actually listened to it and appreciated know. So another one in the books. [01:22:25] Speaker D: Another one in the books. [01:22:27] Speaker C: It was really good. [01:22:28] Speaker D: I mean, there's going to be tons of songs on the Spotify list. Almost the whole record is going to be on there. [01:22:32] Speaker C: Yeah, just this whole thing, man. [01:22:35] Speaker D: Yeah, no, it was really good. I mean, it's overall an eight album, which is damn skippy. A good song. A good album. Not very many records get eight across the board. [01:22:49] Speaker C: No. And I'm sure if the other guys were on here, it would have been in the same. [01:22:53] Speaker D: I'm sure. [01:22:54] Speaker C: I don't think any one of us would have complained about this record for sure. [01:22:58] Speaker D: No, it was really good. And again, it's funny, like I said, I've never really sat down. Besides the random song that I've heard here and there from Megadeth over the years, I've never sat down, listened to an album straight through. So this is good. I liked it. All right, so why don't you do your thing? [01:23:15] Speaker C: Yeah. So we are part of the Deep Dive podcast network again, as I say, by a great bunch of guys who took us in right away, right at the beginning. Who the hell are these kids? 40 year old kids. So check them out. I don't think they have them with Megadeth, do they? [01:23:33] Speaker D: There is a Megadeth one. I'm pretty positive. [01:23:35] Speaker C: Well, I mean, listen, if you guys want individual, intellectual and knowledgeable podcast, then go to these guys. They have Megadeth. If not, hey, maybe they'll add it in. But they got rush, like rush rash. Again. Shout out to those guys who are on our podcast. We had a lot of fun with them. You got Tom Petty, I mean, Uriah heap, you got queen, maiden you name it, it's probably on there. So check them out. And Mark, where can they find us on the interwebs? [01:24:03] Speaker D: We're on Rockwood pod everywhere. And then Rockwoodlitpodcast.com, please share our episodes out. Give us five stars on whatever podcast platform you guys use. I'm trying to see if I could find the. If there is. I'm pretty positive there is one. Why? I don't know what it is that's bad on me. I don't know. Are they still doing stuff? I don't know. Anyway, I just don't think here trying to see who it is and I don't know anyway. But I'm pretty positive. [01:24:44] Speaker C: Well, maybe it will inspire them to have one. [01:24:51] Speaker D: I know, I know there's maiden and I know there's obviously Aerosmith and Van Halen. [01:24:58] Speaker C: Is there Metallica? [01:25:01] Speaker D: I don't think there's a metallic about cast. I know there's red hot chili peppers. [01:25:06] Speaker C: I'll throw that on there, too. Well, I mean, the guys from Rush Rash did a specific one about Lulu, right? Yeah, I know they. Regarding Lulu. Yeah. [01:25:21] Speaker D: That I don't think is on our network. I don't think that there they are. But obviously rush. [01:25:25] Speaker C: I'll give them a shout out anyway. [01:25:27] Speaker D: Go listen to Rush rash. [01:25:29] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:25:31] Speaker D: But, yeah, so it was good. I'm very happy we got this. Like I said, this wouldn't be a record that I would sit down and listen to. So it's just one of those things that it's awesome. Really good record. I'm very happy we got. So. And then next week we get to spin again. Spin time. [01:25:49] Speaker C: Yes. As always. Hopefully we can get some of the guys back again. We haven't had Steve in a while. I know. We got to try and do it earlier for him. Sorry, Steve. [01:25:59] Speaker D: You would have liked this. Sorry, Steve. [01:26:02] Speaker C: Yeah. Frank and Nick have been busy, so that's why they haven't been able to jump on. [01:26:08] Speaker D: Yeah, we haven't done this many holidays. Yeah. We haven't done this many podcasts by ourselves in a while. [01:26:16] Speaker C: Yeah, it's been a bit. [01:26:21] Speaker D: All right, guys, so we appreciate it by listening. Please share and like the podcast, and we will see you next week. [01:26:27] Speaker C: Ciao. Ciao. Later.