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[00:01:14] Speaker B: Hey, everybody. Welcome back to another episode of Rock Roulette podcast. That's right, the Crazy Ass podcast that took over 1200 albums. Suck them in a list. Suck them in a wheel. And typically, every other week we spin the wheel. She picks a record for us, and we go through it side by side and song by song. We talk about the music, music, the lyrics and the production, and we rate it out of ten. Again, just a bunch of friends who want to do a podcast. We love music. And again, we want to thank anybody who listens to us. Anybody who votes for us, rates us whatever it is, man. Criticisms, comments, suggestions. Just give us a, you know, give us a buzz, man. We'll write back. Mark always writes back quickly, no matter what you guys throw at us. So again, we want to thank everybody. Tonight, we are threesome. We have Frank back.
My name is Frank, and I'm sexy.
[00:02:14] Speaker C: Great to be back.
[00:02:17] Speaker B: Welcome back, bud. We have Mark. Oh, hi, Mark.
[00:02:21] Speaker A: What's up, guys?
[00:02:23] Speaker B: And I'm Sav. Ciao, buena. Sierra.
So last week, we had a little bit of an issue with the wheel, I guess you could say maybe she drank a little bit too much because she picked kings of Leon, which she's already picked three times and which is really funny. We have a written rule here that basically we have to wait at least ten albums to do a group or singer. Again, I think it just to provide a little bit of diversity. And then she picked slippery when wet, and it was just on the, on the cusp. But Mark, in his wisdom, said, spin it one more time. We're like, okay, let's spin it one more time. And she picked, I don't know, an album that many people probably haven't heard of from a band that you haven't heard of. Josh, retreat by YouTube. So, I mean, obviously, when it's that big, we're really surprised. The last, I think, major album, really, really big album she picked was New Jersey by Bon Jovi. So.
And anybody who listens, I've mentioned it more than once. U two is my overall favorite band, and obviously, this is a classic. I mean, this is the one that really, really put them on the map, especially in the US. So I'm glad that we got it. And I'm loving the first side the way I've always loved the first side.
Mark, obviously, you gave some pretty high scores.
[00:03:48] Speaker A: Yeah. And remember, and remember, you have to say that the album that it picked from Bon Jovi, well, you said slippery went wet, right?
[00:03:55] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:03:55] Speaker B: Yeah, I think I did. Yeah. Slippery one, wet.
I know.
[00:03:59] Speaker A: Too big of an album to.
I mean, we could have done it, but, you know, if something came up that was we didn't like as much, we would have kept slippery, probably, so. And by the way, thanks for all the pressure. Mark writes you back right away. He'll get back to you right away.
[00:04:12] Speaker B: Don't worry.
[00:04:13] Speaker A: Mark will do it right away.
[00:04:15] Speaker B: Exactly. I know you two because you tell me right away when you're like, hey, somebody wrote back. I go to look, and you commented already, so I know we love our fans too much.
Excuse me, sir.
[00:04:30] Speaker A: It's the bat phone, sir.
[00:04:33] Speaker B: Nice.
[00:04:34] Speaker A: Basically. Yeah. The bathroom goes. And then. And then I have to go into write everyone back mode. I'm gonna have Frank start writing people back. That's what I'm gonna do.
[00:04:42] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:04:43] Speaker A: Yeah. I'm gonna give Frank the password to the account so he can start writing people and cause a whole shit storm of stuff to happen.
[00:04:50] Speaker B: Yeah. Frank becomes the face of rock roulette podcast.
[00:04:54] Speaker C: Chad GB's gonna become the word. I'm just gonna be like, yeah. What do you. How do you respond to this?
[00:05:02] Speaker B: So, Frank, what. What are your thoughts overall? I mean, on the Joshua Tree? Were you a fan of the band? A fan of the album?
[00:05:12] Speaker C: Yeah, 100%. I think that you two. I was thinking about this. I think you two is probably the second band who I've seen the most in concert.
I've caught everything from pop onward, pretty much so. Yep. So, Joshua Tree, I think. I think the first time I heard Joshua Tree was at your place, so with you could be. Yep. I'm pretty sure that's what it was. Um.
You were really big on this band, and we're like, who the heck is this?
[00:05:48] Speaker B: Yeah. I mean, at that point, they really hadn't, um. Well, I mean, New Year's day. It's funny because my cousin, who has a record collection beyond, he had more, and he liked New Year's Day the rest of it sucks. But I didn't even then, I didn't really know who they were, and I discovered them in 86 when I was in Italy. My uncle just really got me into them, and then he was here in 87, and that's when this album came out.
So, yeah, I mean, so I think you're gonna. The album is definitely front heavy. Without a doubt. The biggest songs were all on the first side, so that's, I think, the only real hit on the second slide for anybody who hasn't heard the album is in God's country, which I think is. Again, it's a pretty song. It's in and out.
But I think there's some really cool stuff that goes on in the second slide that's different from the first slide. A little bit more experimentation with blues, a little bit. Some heavier stuff, some weird, weirder stuff.
So.
[00:06:55] Speaker A: So, Frank, are you gonna. Are you gonna do your new job?
[00:06:59] Speaker C: Which is.
[00:07:00] Speaker A: Response, everybody. No. Well, that's your second reading.
[00:07:06] Speaker C: I don't even know. Where do I get the lyrics from? Hold on.
[00:07:08] Speaker A: Chat. B chat. GPT that shit.
I think Google will suffice for that, though.
[00:07:17] Speaker C: Hold, please.
Joshua tree lyrics. Feel free to, you know, converse amongst yourself as I look this up.
[00:07:27] Speaker B: Well, actually, I was speaking, but I had myself on. Genius.com is actually pretty cool because they give you the meanings of the song.
Yeah. And then they also tell you they actually have quotes about the song from the artists. Not all of them, but a lot.
[00:07:48] Speaker C: Of them have been.
[00:07:49] Speaker B: Yeah. Meanings. And.
[00:07:55] Speaker C: So what's the next one that we listen thousand years later?
[00:08:01] Speaker B: Oh, SpongeBob.
[00:08:05] Speaker C: So I guess you're up to part side b, right? On this?
[00:08:08] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:08:12] Speaker B: So my daughter watches a bunch of youtubers and they use that so much that, you know, ten.
[00:08:23] Speaker C: Moments later.
[00:08:24] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:08:25] Speaker C: A few inches later.
Much, much, much later.
Six and a half hours later, 70.
[00:08:34] Speaker A: Years later, I have a whole bunch of laters.
[00:08:39] Speaker B: I like the one where it's like so much later that the original guy had to leave or something like that.
[00:08:47] Speaker A: Or we could just play this while he's looking for it.
[00:08:53] Speaker C: There we go.
I'm gonna make that my new on hold music.
[00:09:06] Speaker B: Do we have to rate that now or no?
[00:09:08] Speaker A: Yes.
Yes, we do.
[00:09:10] Speaker B: I give the music a production of ten.
[00:09:18] Speaker D: System failure. System failure?
[00:09:21] Speaker C: I don't know what you're talking about. I'm already waiting for you guys clowns.
[00:09:24] Speaker A: Oh, you're waiting for me? Okay.
[00:09:25] Speaker C: Yeah, waiting for you clowns.
[00:09:27] Speaker B: In case anybody couldn't guess, we don't actually see each other when we do this, so.
Or else we'd probably be giving each other faces and fingers, like, non fun all day long.
[00:09:40] Speaker C: All right, so we're decide b, right? We're the Red Hill mining town.
[00:09:43] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:09:44] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:09:45] Speaker C: Okay.
[00:09:47] Speaker A: Red Hill mine. So. So do we know what so Red Hill mining town is? Because there was 1984, the national union of Mine Workers declared a strike in response to the British National Coal Board's decision to close down a large swath of the UK's coal mines, which had become unprofitable.
So that's about what this is about.
I mean, it's not surprising. I mean, you two is generally a very politically active band, for lack of.
[00:10:18] Speaker B: There's actually a video for this which I've never seen before until last.
[00:10:21] Speaker A: Oh, really?
[00:10:22] Speaker B: Last week? Yeah. And it's so funny that the. The picture is so clear in the video.
I mean, it's beautiful. It looks beautiful.
And I'm like, you wouldn't think so.
Yeah, but I mean, it's them. Yeah. No, no, I mean, it's them from there. And, I mean, it's kind of. Kind of cheesy and funny in a way.
Like Larry, the drummer, he's banging on like Piper, whatever the hell he's banging on.
But, I mean, the quality of the video is amazing.
[00:10:51] Speaker A: Really. I'm gonna have to look at it now.
[00:10:53] Speaker B: Yeah, it's kind of funny.
[00:10:56] Speaker A: For 30 years, this song was known as the only song from the Joshua. She was never played live, although it was sound checked in November 1987. In 2017, when they played the Joshua Retrie tour, they played album in this entirety, and as a result, the song was played live for the first time. That's funny, right?
[00:11:13] Speaker C: Yeah, those are.
[00:11:16] Speaker A: Oh, so you saw that?
[00:11:17] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, that was Emmett. Life got to see it.
[00:11:21] Speaker A: So, obviously, Frank has seen YouTube more than Samino has.
[00:11:25] Speaker B: Frank is more money than I do. That's what it is.
[00:11:28] Speaker C: Now I go on the jeep.
It kills me.
[00:11:33] Speaker B: I've seen them three times. I saw Joshua Tree, October baby and pop.
[00:11:38] Speaker A: Frank's in the nosebleeds watching these things.
[00:11:40] Speaker C: Yeah. You know, you get those and then you just work your way around, you know?
[00:11:45] Speaker A: Can you still do that, though?
[00:11:47] Speaker C: Yeah, you can. You'd be like, oh, yeah. You know, they have my favorite beer on that bar.
[00:11:54] Speaker B: I was in the nosebleeds for. Definitely for optum baby. That was at yankee seating. That was the outdoor tour.
So we were pretty high up.
I remember Joshua Tree, I guess, up into the side, kind of.
I know that it was necessary, but pop actually, technically those. Those were the best seats I had. I didn't buy the seats. I mean, I paid for them. I paid the person who bought them for me.
But I think those seats are probably the best I had out of now.
[00:12:29] Speaker C: The best seats I ever had was for the 360.
They were amazing.
[00:12:36] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. Where was that?
[00:12:37] Speaker C: It was at Metlife. Well, at that time, it was. Wasn't Metlife or giant stadium. I think it was Metlife still.
And we were sitting so close that when the smoke machine went off, I had an asthma attack. That's how close I was.
[00:12:59] Speaker A: Fresh. Coughing up a lung.
[00:13:01] Speaker C: I'm coughing along. Yeah. But it was great. All the concerts were great for the elevation tour. Saw them in Jersey, and I remember one of the things that stand out to me about that concert was when they were playing where the streets have no name. The entire arena went so crazy that it was the first time I actually felt a building bounce. We were kind of, like, on the second tier area, and the whole building was bouncing, and you actually felt the floor just going up and down.
[00:13:36] Speaker A: That's crazy.
[00:13:37] Speaker C: I never felt that before that time.
[00:13:39] Speaker B: That was like when I went to see Russia at the Nassau Coliseum.
And as I was loving the concert, I was praying at the same time that it didn't just collapse in on us. It just felt so rickety.
[00:13:52] Speaker A: It's freaky when that happens.
[00:13:54] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:13:55] Speaker A: I'm enjoying this, but I don't want to die here. Yeah.
[00:13:59] Speaker B: I'm like, I don't feel safe. I feel like.
Oh, hell, no.
[00:14:07] Speaker A: All right, are we ready? We're going to do this?
[00:14:09] Speaker C: Yeah, let's do it.
[00:14:10] Speaker A: All right, here we go. So, red Hill mining town the blood runs down.
[00:14:31] Speaker D: Sweet faces frozen still against.
[00:14:37] Speaker B: The wind.
[00:14:44] Speaker D: The seam is split the cold face cracks the lines all along there's no going back to hands of steel and heart of stone our liber a day has come and gone and leave me holding on see last night so down hang it up.
You always lift the whole loop on to.
[00:15:56] Speaker A: It's definitely a different. A different sound. I like it, though.
[00:15:59] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:16:00] Speaker A: There's a lot less for them, you know?
[00:16:02] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:16:02] Speaker A: A lot less delay on his guitar and just a little bit different sounding.
[00:16:10] Speaker B: But it's also ambient.
[00:16:13] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:16:14] Speaker B: Which I think comes through.
Slide a little bit more than the first one.
[00:16:20] Speaker A: Yeah. I mean, for me, it's definitely a different. Different thing than. Than most of the songs in the first side.
[00:16:29] Speaker B: Mm hmm.
[00:16:30] Speaker A: So, yeah, I can see where there's a little bit different stuff happening.
Guitars are good. Drums are good. Everything's good. I mean, lyrics are good.
Singing is good. I mean, I don't. I don't know if I put this. I mean, just maybe because the other songs have been in my head for so long, but I don't know if I can put this as high as those things are. But, I mean, it's good so far. I like it.
[00:16:56] Speaker B: Yeah, there's some really good vocals on this side.
[00:17:00] Speaker A: What do you think, Frank?
[00:17:01] Speaker C: No, I like it.
I like it a lot.
[00:17:11] Speaker A: I was waiting for more, you know.
[00:17:13] Speaker C: No, it's. Yeah, to your point, Marquez? I mean, a, I didn't know there was a part b to this album, so there's that. I'm only kidding.
I'm only kidding.
Yeah, it's very cool.
Like some YouTube listeners maybe. I didn't necessarily always listen to the side, to the b side until much later on, probably when I became bigger YouTube fan. So as I did, you know, I kind of liked their style a little more experimental, like Savino said. And I like this song a lot. The lyrics are great so far. I'll read those shortly.
The music overall is really well, like, you hear everyone perfectly, right?
[00:17:54] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:17:54] Speaker A: Production, production records good.
[00:17:58] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah. So I'll go ahead and read these for you. The lyrics.
[00:18:02] Speaker A: Go ahead.
[00:18:03] Speaker C: All right. Verse one, from father to son, the blood runs thin. Oh, see the faces frozen still against the wind.
Verse two. The seam is split, the cold face cracked the lines are long, they're not going back.
Verse three, through hands of steel and heart of stone our Labor Day has come and gone the pre chorus, they leave me holding on in Red Hill town see the lights go down on and then the chorus hanging on. You're all that's left to hold on to. I'm still waiting I'm hanging on. You're all that's left to hold on to.
[00:18:48] Speaker A: Very, very serious lyrics. It's a serious thing.
[00:18:52] Speaker C: It is serious.
[00:18:53] Speaker A: Yeah. I mean. I mean, you know, how many, you know, obviously people outside of the UK probably didn't know as much about this whole thing as probably they did more than likely.
But, you know, props to them for bringing something like that out into the open. So it's always good.
I like it so far. All right, let's continue it.
[00:19:26] Speaker D: The world is cold in the caverns of the night will wounded by fear injured in doubt I can reach myself you I can't live without yet keep me holding on it rain you down see the lights go down I'm hateful you always went to hold on to.
I still wait I hate always live to hold on to.
[00:20:33] Speaker A: Yeah, I do really like that, like, single note, like, dirty guitar thing and then the clean stuff behind it. It's pretty cool like that a lot.
I'm trying. I'm trying to figure. I'm trying to figure out when they. When they started to tune, um, a half step down, because I know I was telling you that as of 2001, they were tuned down a half step. You can see why. Like, listen to. Listen to how hot. That vocal must be crazy to sing.
[00:21:03] Speaker C: Yeah, I mean, I personally like the peak.
[00:21:08] Speaker B: No, I was gonna say between the album four and, I mean, people may not agree, but I think between the unforgettable fire and this one, I mean, obviously some stuff from Ronald and Hahn, but, I mean, some of that stuff is older. Depends on what session that. But I think that's really where he. They push when he hit his speed.
[00:21:30] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:21:33] Speaker C: You know what I like about, what I like about the music so far is the bass. I think the bass is just phenomenal so far. It's carrying the song right through.
[00:21:40] Speaker B: Yeah, I was telling Mark that, too. They have this reputation of all their horrible, like, rhythm section. Like, people don't listen because, you know, again, does he edge? Right. Riffs? Yeah, absolutely. But does he also do kind of, like, one offs? And when you think about, like, with. Without you, but even here, I mean, the bass and the drums, they're kind of holding down. And again, because of them, he gets to do where maybe it's not a riff. It's just kind of like in and out things.
[00:22:08] Speaker A: And, well, one of the better things I heard is Jimmy Page called the Edge of Sonic architect. Yeah, that's. That's basically what he does. He just makes. He makes soundscapes of things. And, you know, some people could tell, call that as being. Well, you know, he's not as good a guitar player because, you know, he uses all these effects to do these things. He doesn't really know how to play guitar. And, you know, I think at a certain point, you have to understand that, you know, that's not his thing. Like, he doesn't want to be, like the hotshot guitar player guy. It's just not his thing.
He plays. He plays for the song and he play. And he makes tapestries or soundscapes of. In songs, it's just different. That's what he does. And you know what? He has his own sound. You know him, right, by his playing more than you would know. Some shredding guy who I may know or you may know, but most people would never know who the hell it is.
[00:23:05] Speaker B: And again, I don't think it's just the reverb or whatever that he uses. I think that he has a style.
And that's what, when you hear it, if you hear somebody else doing it, it's kind of like, oh, it sounds like you too. And not. And again, not. Because there's. Oh, well, you put reverb on anything and it sounds like the edge. That's not true. There's a style just like we were listening to Kings of Leon. There were certain things that sounded like that, but not everything.
[00:23:31] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah.
[00:23:34] Speaker C: And the vocals here. So one of the things I remember doing during COVID was I was just watching all these concerts, right, that I have on dvd and was watching the whole YouTube series from pretty much.
Was it octun, maybe? Yeah. So anyway, watching all these. All these live concerts and the last one that I have, which is the 360, you can actually hear Bono's voice change in that one. That's when you really hear it different. So hearing it right now, it just reminds you, like, how amazing those vocals were during his peak.
[00:24:15] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:24:15] Speaker C: And it was very unique at the time, too.
[00:24:19] Speaker B: Yeah. I mean, you know. You know when it's him.
[00:24:21] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:24:22] Speaker B: You know, honestly, I mean, I told Mark last time, like, I've seen them even. Even like pop. I wasn't crazy about the pop concert, but they still sounded great.
I think they were there a better live band than they are on record.
When I saw them on the Joshua tree, just to hear these songs played live, I was like, oh my God, that sounded so good.
[00:24:46] Speaker A: How many songs did they do from the Joshua Tree on the Joshua retreat or they do mostly album.
[00:24:50] Speaker B: You know what? I have to look up the cells. I gotta find the cell, I think. I don't remember.
[00:24:55] Speaker C: They did all that on the Joshua tree. So, like, when they rebooted it.
[00:24:59] Speaker A: No, no.
[00:25:01] Speaker B: When I went to go see him for. On the actual tour.
[00:25:03] Speaker C: Oh, on the actual original tour?
[00:25:05] Speaker B: Yeah. I mean, where the streets have looking for. I'm sure, I'm sure.
I don't remember what else. The next song they did and the one after that, I think they did. I don't know if they did exit.
I gotta pick up. I just know is in 1987, it was in New Jersey at that point. It was still the Brendan burn arena.
[00:25:31] Speaker A: Mmm.
[00:25:32] Speaker B: Mm hmm.
[00:25:34] Speaker A: Yeah. I'm trying to. I'm trying to look at setlist FM to see what they did in 87. I'm trying to. I'm trying to back this up. Well, Frank, once you read some lyrics. What were you up to? Do we have more to go before first?
[00:25:46] Speaker C: Here we go. So we got verse four. The glass is cut, the bottle runs dry. Our love runs cold. In the caverns of the light.
Verse five. We're wounded by fear, injured in doubt. I can lose myself.
You I can't live without.
Then it goes to pre chorus. Yeah. You keep me holding on. In Red Hill town. See the light go down.
I'm hanging on. You're all that's left to hold on to. I'm still waiting. Hanging on. You're all that's left to hold on to. On to.
[00:26:24] Speaker A: Hmm.
[00:26:26] Speaker C: Hmm.
[00:26:27] Speaker A: Man, good lyrics man.
[00:26:29] Speaker B: Seven songs.
[00:26:31] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. I'm looking at.
So I'm looking at it too. Yeah. From 87. Yeah.
[00:26:36] Speaker B: Oh wait, no, eight.
I didn't go far down. Far enough songs. I mean it's pretty good.
[00:26:43] Speaker A: Yeah.
123456. Yeah. Eight. I mean that's a lot.
[00:26:53] Speaker B: Yeah. And I mean, so you know how you. There's a band kind of like them, maybe they got a new album out. So you go see them on tour but you haven't listened to the new album that much yet? Kind of.
Well with this it was great because I had listened to it so I knew every song already. So. Yeah. So they didn't do this one.
Red Hill mining town didn't do the last one. Mothers of the disappeared.
[00:27:21] Speaker A: Yeah. It's interesting how, you know, bands back then they would throw a lot of the new song, not a lot of the new songs. I mean that was a normal thing to do. Your album came out and you played four or five songs. Right. From. From the new album. Depending on who you are. If you were a new band, you almost played the whole record because you had no choice. You had no other songs to play. Yeah, I mean they had a couple albums prior to this, two or three. So it was easier for them to pick. But still.
Yeah, I mean. I mean, I mean truth be told, I appreciate the vocal here, but I mean it's a little hard for this to even stand up to the first four. So. I mean it's a hard thing.
Hard thing for me anyway. Just saying that. Is this as good as any of the first four? Probably.
[00:28:05] Speaker B: Yeah. I. Listen, I don't. I don't think it's necessarily. But I do like it. You know what I mean? Again, I don't dislike any song on this. On this album.
So. Yeah, but I mean obviously there's certain songs that stand out more than other songs so.
[00:28:21] Speaker A: Of course, yeah. It's just a given all right, let's continue. Here we go.
[00:28:44] Speaker D: We wait all day for night to.
[00:28:50] Speaker A: Come.
[00:28:53] Speaker D: And it comes like a hunter child.
I'm hanging out.
You always have to hold on to I'm still waiting.
I'm hanging out.
You always live to hold on to.
Love slowly drift away.
You let go out here.
Let go down with you.
Let go.
[00:30:25] Speaker A: There we go.
Any more lyrics, Frank, that we have to read or. We.
[00:30:33] Speaker C: Saw the bridge, we scorched the earth, set fire to the sky and we stooped so low to reach so high verse six a link is lost, the chain is undone. We wait all day for night to come and it comes like a hunter child chorus I'm hanging on you're all that's left to hold on to. I'm still waiting I'm hanging on you all that's left to hold on to. Love slowly stripped away Love has seen its better day hanging on. Lights go out on Red Hill town. Lights go down on Red Hill town. Lights go down on Red Hill town. Lights go down on Red Hill town.
[00:31:21] Speaker B: I wish. Let's go down to Red Hill town.
[00:31:24] Speaker A: What did you thought it was? Let's, let's.
[00:31:26] Speaker B: Instead of lights.
[00:31:28] Speaker A: See, even now though.
[00:31:30] Speaker B: But I'm not gonna say it even now. It sounded like let's go down.
That's what it sounded like to me.
[00:31:36] Speaker C: Why would you go down on Red Hill town?
[00:31:39] Speaker B: Go to down to the town maybe he's up on a hill, right? He's like.
[00:31:45] Speaker C: That'S exactly what I want, mister dirty thoughts. Let's go down on a town.
[00:31:52] Speaker A: He'S on the hill going down all right, why don't you go first? No, I want you to go first.
[00:31:59] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, yeah. So, I mean, again, I still love this song.
It still holds up to me. So I'm not going to do a comparison thing. I just. I have to do this individually.
So I'm going to say eight on the lyrics.
I'm going to say eight on the music. I mean, I can go seven. I mean, just to not put as high as some of the other ones. But again, I'm sitting here, I'm singing, I'm like doing the whole gospel thing, moving side to side.
I mean, just this album really evokes a lot of emotion for me and it still does.
And I'm gonna say I'm not in the production, so. Eight, eight, nine. What do you think?
[00:32:43] Speaker A: Yeah, I'm gonna say eight on the lyrics. I think they're very.
They're very evocative of what they're trying to say. About the town and the people and how much that means to them and all that kind of stuff. So I'm gonna be an eight. I'm gonna say seven on the music only because there's not as many, there's not as many, like, standout riffy kind of things that he has on the other stuff.
So I'm gonna say seven on that and then eight on the eight on production. Production is good. I like it. I especially like his vocal on this, too. I think. I think it's fairly strong.
[00:33:19] Speaker C: So, Frank, I'm giving this triple eight.
Love the lyrics.
It just kind of just moves you along the way. I mean, it just paints the picture what the feelings are right there, what's going on. So love the lyrics there. The production, I mean, as I shared before, I just feel like the bass and like you said, savino, the drums to carry the whole song, so very well put together. The vocals are just so clear. I think it's just great about it. So I'll give that an eight as well. And, yeah, the music overall just. I just enjoyed it. So triple a for me.
[00:33:57] Speaker A: Yeah, it's. It's definitely still a good song. I mean, again, it doesn't stand up as, to me, as some of the other stuff, but it's good.
All right, so the next song is in God's country. So I assume, Sabrina, you like this song, right?
[00:34:13] Speaker B: It wasn't always one of my top songs, I'll be honest. But I do like it. You know what I mean? Like I said, for me to dislike on this one is still probably better than a lot of songs, so. But you get. I mean, once you hear, you'll know this song, it's pretty popular if. If it's not ringing a bell, I mean.
[00:34:31] Speaker A: Yeah, well, they don't particularly like this song that much.
[00:34:34] Speaker B: Yeah, I read that they said it was hard for them to play.
[00:34:37] Speaker A: Yeah. Because they're not really trained musicians. And it was developed out of Bono's frustration, trying to get a bit of rock and roll out of the. Out of the edge.
So I haven't heard this song in a while, so I'm going to be interested in hearing it again. Frank, do you remember the song? I assume you do.
[00:34:59] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:35:01] Speaker A: And what do you think of it?
[00:35:03] Speaker C: I like it. You know, I didn't know that part, though, that I've just shared that they put the song down.
[00:35:10] Speaker A: Yeah. And that, and that Bono wanted to get a little rock and roll out of him because it's not really his thing. So.
So let's see I haven't heard this in a while, so. In God's country.
Oh, no, I remember this. Okay. Yeah, it's a good song. I like this a lot.
[00:35:51] Speaker B: Yeah, I love the bass song, too.
[00:35:54] Speaker A: And see, his guitar thing, to me, for this album is what I expect from you two, you know? I mean, more. More than the last one, so I just like that style that he plays in here.
[00:36:07] Speaker B: Yeah. I mean, you got acoustic going on here. You got the overdub. I mean. Yeah, the lesson was definitely more simple.
[00:36:14] Speaker A: Yeah. It's funny that they don't like this song, because I think I like this song a lot from what I remember. So it's weird how, you know, you write a song and again, not that.
[00:36:24] Speaker B: They didn't like it. Right. It was more that they thought they'd be. It'd be difficult playing it, but, I mean, it's become a staple.
[00:36:32] Speaker A: Oh, of course. Yeah. No, it's great song. All right, here we go.
[00:36:52] Speaker D: Dress down in rivers and in bows let the sound she go slip down in God's country set eyes, crooked roses in God's country.
[00:37:25] Speaker A: The bass playing is pretty good in this, too.
[00:37:28] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:37:31] Speaker A: I don't want people rag on him. Rag on them as a. As a rhythm section for. Makes no sense.
[00:37:40] Speaker B: I think.
Again, they're big bands, right. They're very vocal. He's obviously very vocal. So they do come under a lot of criticisms and whatever, but, you know, that's like something, or you don't like it. That's it.
[00:38:00] Speaker A: Mm hmm. All right, Frank, do do lyrics.
[00:38:04] Speaker C: All right. Desert sky dream beneath the desert sky the rivers run but soon run dry we need new dreams tonight Desert Rose dreamed I saw a desert rose dressed torn in ribbons and in bows like a siren she calls me.
[00:38:27] Speaker A: Hmm. Yeah. So supposedly, he wasn't sure if this was about Ireland or United States, but I think he eventually figured out that it's gonna. It's about the United States.
[00:38:37] Speaker C: Yeah.
That's what he felt.
[00:38:39] Speaker B: I remember him saying that the unforgettable fire was their most european album and this was their most american album before rattling home makes a few references. Yeah. I mean, I remember Bono saying something like that.
Yeah.
[00:39:01] Speaker A: I mean, so far, this is. This is good. This is getting back on. On track to. With stuff on the first. On the first side to me, so.
All right, let's continue.
[00:39:25] Speaker D: She is living she comes to rescue me faith of melody, the greatest gift comes like a drug in God's country set eyes crooked crosses in God's good spirit.
[00:40:22] Speaker A: So, you know, generally you don't hear a lot of solo stuff from him, but to me, that is a solo part.
[00:40:27] Speaker B: Mm hmm.
[00:40:28] Speaker A: And it's used, he uses the effects to his advantage. So anyone saying, like, well, yeah, I mean, you're not gonna take guitar skill from him and put it to some other person who's obviously more talented in that department. But, but the part is really good, and the sound is really good. He's using those effects to his advantage to make his sound of what his sound is. So, you know, I'm, again, I'll say, I'll say it 100% that I probably didn't appreciate his guitar playing in the eighties as much as I do now, because I think in the eighties, especially guitar player wise, it was, it was more, how fast could you play? How many notes could you play that counted as how. How good you were, even if that wasn't really the truth, and there was, you know, there were tons of guitar players you could have took from one band, put it to the other band, you wouldn't even know they changed.
[00:41:22] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:41:23] Speaker A: But that's not the case here. So that's one of the things I appreciate.
[00:41:28] Speaker B: And the base got that nice. Has a nice little breakdown, too, right before.
[00:41:32] Speaker A: Yeah, they're solid. They're solid.
All right, Frank, lyric time.
[00:41:38] Speaker C: All right, so verse two, set me a light we'll punch a hole right through the night every day the dreamers die to see what's on the other side she is liberty and she comes to rescue me hope, faith, her vanity the greatest gift is gold chorus. Sleep comes like a drug in God's country sad eyes, crooked crosses in God's country yeah, the guitars at all.
[00:42:11] Speaker A: Yeah. And it's funny. It's funny that.
To hear what he's saying about the United States from someone outside.
So it's interesting. Like, that's his, that's his idea of what it is. So it's interesting.
So it's pretty cool. I like it.
[00:43:00] Speaker B: Really short song.
[00:43:02] Speaker C: Mm hmm.
[00:43:05] Speaker B: Ending up.
[00:43:08] Speaker A: Yes. 257 pretty quick.
Yeah. You know, it's a good song, too. It goes, it goes through. And one of the things I can say, I'm just gonna go back to guitar playing for a second, is that I don't think a lot of his stuff is hard to play.
Where it gets a little dodgy is. And that's just for me, playing some of his stuff. And even this week, I was fool around. The streets have another name because I haven't played in a long time.
It's getting the timing right with the delay and playing that correctly, it's not as easy as it makes. The parts are not hard, technically parts, but to play it within the structure of the. Of the delay. Sometimes you get it, sometimes you get a little friggin lost where you're at and it's not sounding exactly right. You're like, what the fuck is going on here? But again, that's why I take a. Have an issue with people saying that, you know, he sucks because I don't really think that's the case.
So I think he's gotten better, though, over the years, too. I think the longer he's played, you know, by the time he got to October, baby was a better guitar player than he was on this.
[00:44:17] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean, listen, for what it's worth, an octave, the octane baby tour, the bullet, the blue sky solo in the middle was longer than it was before.
So, you know, he added stuff to it, you know, again, he wasn't shredding. It's not like mobile finger tapping, but in the concept, in the context of what he does, it was like, oh, cool. You know, he broke out a little bit, which was cool. Wow.
[00:44:41] Speaker A: All right, let's. Let's let Frank go first. Go, Frank.
[00:44:44] Speaker C: Well, I gotta read the lyrics.
[00:44:46] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:44:47] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, once you do that.
[00:44:49] Speaker C: All right, so verse three. Naked flame, she stands with naked flame, I stand with sons of Cain burned by the fire of love. Burned by the fire of love, love, love.
[00:45:03] Speaker A: Nice, nice. I go ahead.
Why don't you go first then, Frank?
[00:45:09] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:45:10] Speaker C: You know, I know the backstory on this song until just now, so it wasn't necessarily one of my favorite songs. And, I mean, I like it a little bit more now. Reading through it and just having a better understanding.
Lyrics are great, as always, with. With Bono. So I'm gonna go ahead and give the lyrics an eight there. Um, the production, like, so far, like the rest of this album is. It's. It's on point. It's really solid, I think. So again, I'm gonna give that an eight. And then the music, uh, I give it a seven. So that's where I'm at, sav.
[00:45:50] Speaker B: So, yeah, I'm gonna say eight on the lyrics, nine in production. Again, this is a song just like I told Mark last week. Like, I slow shot what I'm looking for. That kind of grew on me afterwards.
So again, I'm doing. I'm not comparing anything this time.
Compare when you haven't heard the album and you know what I mean, or comparing things in your head, things you haven't heard. But this again, to me, I have to take song by song where it puts me emotionally. So I'm gonna say an eight on the music.
And again, this is not comparing to anything before, just one by one. So, Mark.
[00:46:32] Speaker A: Yeah. It's hard for me to not. It's hard for me to not compare to prior songs, especially on the same record.
[00:46:38] Speaker B: I know, but that's what I'm saying. I think if. See, because I lived and breathed this album when it came out just like the one before, it's different, I guess, because.
And again, I'm sitting here singing and bopping my head and doing everything, so. But, yeah, I can understand doing the comparison. So that's what I'm trying not to do.
[00:47:02] Speaker A: Oh, that's okay. So if we ever get to a kiss record, I'm sure I'll be saying things. You'd be like, huh? What? You really like that?
[00:47:09] Speaker B: Because, I mean, you have to take them individually.
[00:47:13] Speaker A: Yeah, I know.
[00:47:14] Speaker B: You know, how you felt and how this one made you feel. How's it feeling now? Especially listening back to some stuff?
[00:47:20] Speaker A: Yeah. Well, I'm gonna give it triple h across the board because I think I like this song a little bit better than I like the prior one. I think. I like the guitar parts. I think the guitar parts are more in line with some of the other stuff that I like on this record. So I'm gonna do triple a to cross the bass. Playing was good. I'd like the, like, the little bass break.
Yeah. An overall good. Great song. So, I mean, triple eight's, you know, generally things, if you're doing things in the sixes and sevens is good. So eight is better than that. So that's how. That's all. That's why I look at that.
So the next one is trip through the wires. Trip through your wires. Now I don't know how I feel.
[00:48:01] Speaker B: This one's gonna throw a free loop.
[00:48:04] Speaker A: Well, from what I can gather, it's a little bluesy. Right. So I don't remember this as much.
[00:48:12] Speaker B: I don't. I don't know if you know this one. I mean, it wasn't, like, as far as I know, released, but they've. They've played it live and.
[00:48:21] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:48:22] Speaker B: But it's definitely probably the most different, I would say.
[00:48:29] Speaker A: I mean, again, not always bad.
[00:48:31] Speaker B: No. You still hear them. You're not gonna say, like, but it takes a while for you to say, oh, this is you too. You know what I mean? I think it takes a little bit more to get going.
[00:48:39] Speaker A: Okay. That way we go. Trip through your wires.
[00:49:19] Speaker D: Still shaken, still in pain. You put me back together.
I was going, I was there, angel.
I was thirsty.
And you and I live.
[00:50:07] Speaker A: Now. It might, like weird to say that this reminds me of rattling home a little bit. I don't know that it feels more like that era than it does this era, which is.
[00:50:16] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean, this is.
I would. I want to say it's a very american sounding song. You know what I mean?
It also reminds you to something like John D. Cash might have done.
You know, it's very blues, like roots, like a roots rock, you know what I mean?
So, I mean, I remember when I heard this, like, well, what? You know, like, what's this? This is cool. It's different. I mean, obviously once the guitar kicks in, it does sound like him. But the general vibe of it. Right. Even the drums, I mean, the groove that he's playing.
[00:50:49] Speaker A: Yeah. That's not normal for him either.
[00:50:51] Speaker B: No.
And Bono harmonica.
[00:50:56] Speaker A: Yeah. It just, to me, sounds like something that I remember hearing when I heard some stuff from. From Rylan home going, that. That sounds different for them. That that's what it makes me feel like, whether.
[00:51:08] Speaker B: I was gonna say, think about desire. Think about how angels.
[00:51:12] Speaker A: Yeah, that's. That's what makes me feel like. That's what it makes me feel like.
Yeah, maybe. Maybe that's what I'm feeling.
But obviously this was written 86, so this is nowhere near that kind of stuff. I don't think so.
I like it.
[00:51:29] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:51:30] Speaker A: Although I'd said that I don't. I don't like when he doesn't. When he doesn't sound like himself. But I kind of like this stuff.
[00:51:34] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:51:36] Speaker A: All right, Frank, let's read some lyrics.
[00:51:40] Speaker C: Verse one. In the distance she saw me coming round. I was calling out, I was calling out. Still shaking, still in pain. You put me back together again. I was cold, you would clothe me, honey. I was down, you lifted me, honey.
Chorus.
Angel, angel or devil. I was thirsty and you wet my lips. You are waiting for you. You, you set my desire. I tripped through your wire.
[00:52:20] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:52:21] Speaker C: Mm hmm.
[00:52:23] Speaker A: So what is this supposed to be about?
[00:52:26] Speaker B: So here's the deal. I mean, at face value, it sounds like, clearly it's about a woman, right?
[00:52:32] Speaker A: Mm hmm.
[00:52:33] Speaker B: So that would be my guess. But he said it was written in context with the sweetest thing, which is obviously a love song as well.
So it could just be a love song.
[00:52:50] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:52:51] Speaker B: But there's a little. What do you call it to. To it, which I like. There's a little sex to it. Right.
I think there's a little. I feel like there's, um.
There's some of that on here, which is something.
[00:53:06] Speaker A: As far as what he does. Yes. No, not really. That's not what he does.
[00:53:09] Speaker B: I mean, that's how I see it. I see it as a.
[00:53:12] Speaker A: This desire and trip through your wires. Okay.
[00:53:16] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:53:18] Speaker A: All right.
[00:53:19] Speaker B: They had a so called wire on the album before, actually.
[00:53:22] Speaker A: Yeah. Why is it. What does that kind of sentiment or. No, okay.
[00:53:29] Speaker B: And that one's like a. I mean, for them, it's a little bit of a heavier song, like heavy bass and really good song.
[00:53:36] Speaker A: And the drums in here, too, are very like, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop. Which is not what he does.
[00:53:42] Speaker B: They're very movie.
[00:53:43] Speaker A: Yeah. It throws you around. It throws you off a little bit.
[00:53:46] Speaker B: I mean, dare I say, it's probably one of the closest to bottom. He does, I would say, you know that.
And you know what I mean? He kind of. He's on the back. You hear the ghost notes going. I mean, again, he's a massive influence on me. Not necessarily this stuff. It's more like the Tom's. And I think this, the interesting stuff he does. But I mean, it's, you know, it's a great beat. It's a really cool beat. And it's not, again, if you don't do that little ghost note, just like in bullet the blue sky with the hi hat and everything, it won't sound the same. He does these little things, too, even in this.
Let's set it apart.
[00:54:20] Speaker A: I gotta listen to that a little bit more. All right, let's continue. Here we go.
[00:54:59] Speaker D: Make a shell.
No more water.
No more water. What I never.
I be. I need it. I be all I need.
[00:56:34] Speaker A: There's a little bit of a shut. It's kind of a shuffle sort of kind on the drums.
[00:56:38] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:56:39] Speaker A: And that's not, that's not a normal thing for him either. I liked it, though.
[00:56:42] Speaker B: Yeah, it's good. Like, it gets you grooving. You know what I mean? Like, you could do the little side to side thing.
[00:56:51] Speaker A: All right, Frank, finish the lyrics up.
[00:56:57] Speaker C: Hold, please.
Looking for that?
We lift off at the second verse.
I was broken, bent out of shape. I was naked and clothed and, uh, I was naked in the clothes you made. Lips are dry throat like rust. You gave me shelter from the heat and the dust. No more water in the well. No more water, water.
Angel, angel or devil. I was thirsty and you wet my lips. You are waiting for you, you, you, you set my desire.
I trip through your wires oh I need, oh I need oh I need oh I need it oh I need oh I need oh I need yeah, yeah, yeah the verse three. Thunder, thunder in a mountain there's a rain cloud in the desert sky in the distance she saw me coming around I was calling out I was calling out.
[00:58:06] Speaker A: Yeah, it definitely sounds like it's about a woman, which is weird guy. I don't.
I don't. I don't really hear him singing about that very much. So it's kind of strange.
Um, I guess I'll go first on this one. I haven't went first yet. Right.
Um.
I'm gonna say seven on the lyrics.
I don't know if they're as good as some of the other stuff, but they're still good, though, regardless.
I like the shuffle. I like the different drum thing.
Guitarist guitar stuff's pretty good too. I like the harmonica. So there's lots of interesting things in here that I wouldn't normally associate with YouTube.
So even though I said before that I'd like it sounding the other way, I do appreciate this a little bit cuz this is definitely them going out of their comfort zone a little bit to change it up.
So I'm gonna say eight on that and I'm gonna do. I'm gonna do eight on the production. Again. I think that production has been pretty solid through this whole thing. I have no. I have no, you know, problems with any of the production choices pretty much so far.
Frank?
[00:59:18] Speaker C: Yeah, to your point, Mark, I was surprised to hear that it's about a woman. I never really heard anything like that written by you, too. But this is great.
Didn't expect that. I love the bluesy sound of it. The lyrics are great. I love it. So I'm going to give the lyrics an eight.
The production, I mean, again, an eight all the way through. And the music, very bluesy. Love that. I'm a big fan of the blues. Love everything. Just sounds so well balanced. So an eight for me. So triple eights for me.
Seth.
[00:59:49] Speaker B: So I'm a little bit biggest. That's something you can compare at least that I. Whatever music. I'm still going to say an eight. I mean, this is always a standout track for me. And they'll say eight on production.
[01:00:09] Speaker A: What, did you get the lyrics again? I'm sorry, a seven, seven and then eight. Eight. Oh, wow. We got the same score.
Here we go.
So the next song is one Tree Hill. I'm not sure if I've heard this one either. If I have, it's been a long time ago.
[01:00:26] Speaker B: Um, well, there's a show on Tree Hills. You know.
[01:00:30] Speaker A: You know, I know that. That's what I hear every time I think of that. That's what I think. Um, it's a long song. It's over five minutes.
Trying to figure out what things this thing's about. I want to wait for a loop before I start reading this.
[01:00:45] Speaker B: It was a dedication. It was a friend of theirs who actually died in a motorcycle accident riding Bono's bike to Bono's house.
[01:00:53] Speaker A: Oh, that sucks.
[01:00:55] Speaker B: Yeah. So this really. This is a big effect on him.
[01:01:01] Speaker A: Mmm. That's gonna be good.
[01:01:03] Speaker B: This one is calmer. It's not a ballad by any stretch, you know what I mean? So it's upbeat for what it is. I remember it being a little bit longer and there's some really good vocals in this song.
I was actually singing this song today to myself.
[01:01:22] Speaker A: There you go.
All right, here we go.
[01:02:23] Speaker D: For mercy love so bright leave no shadow only God in stone on the face of heaven is up over my hell we see the sun go down in your eyes.
You roll like a river.
All like a sea.
You run like a river.
[01:03:14] Speaker A: So. So I'm just reading some stuff. So basically they found what they got together with him in art in Australia, then signed him on to work with them because he did some rock band stuff in Australia. And then he ended up just getting killed because he was running a room for Bono to get his bike back to this house. That sucks.
So one Tree Hill is a place in Australia?
Yeah. One of the most spiritually significant to the maori people.
So that's obviously why it's called one tree hell is. That's where you brought him. So that sucks.
Right. Right before the recording, the album put fucking Debbie Downer.
[01:03:59] Speaker B: Yeah, I know.
Yeah. And I remember reading about this and he was, like, really affected by it.
[01:04:07] Speaker A: Yeah, it seems like everybody was. It seems to be that way.
That's a bummer, man.
Man, we gotta write so much bummer stuff, dude. What's up?
Well, that's how we got it out of the system, I'm sure. So.
[01:04:24] Speaker B: Well, this was like. I mean, it reminds me of. What is it? Something to believe in that verse? Where do I. Mike was my best friend. Died alone, man.
[01:04:34] Speaker A: Mm hmm.
[01:04:35] Speaker B: I was actually the guy who was picking up bread, Bobby doll. And he looks like he's hurt.
[01:04:47] Speaker A: Oh, he picks him up.
[01:04:49] Speaker C: Yeah.
[01:04:50] Speaker B: There's like, there's a guy who's picking him up off the ground and I think that's the guy who died that verse is dedicated to. I think he od, actually.
[01:04:58] Speaker A: Yeah, it sucks, too.
[01:05:00] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:05:03] Speaker A: Yeah, I like the. And the guitar parts pretty interesting, too, throughout, like, he's not just playing, like, just chords. He's like. He's playing, like, those little, like, little fill things, those. Pretty cool. I liked it. And the bass and the drums are really good.
[01:05:17] Speaker B: Mm hmm.
[01:05:19] Speaker A: Yeah, I like it.
All right, frank reassembles, please.
[01:05:25] Speaker C: Absolutely. We turn away the face the cold enduring chill? As the day begs the night for mercy love the sun so bright it leaves no shadow only scars carved into stone? On the face of earth?
The moon is up and over one tree hill?
We see the sun go down in your eyes? The chorus. You run like a river on the sea?
You run like a river?
You run like a river? Runs to the sea? There you have it.
[01:06:03] Speaker A: Yeah. You could definitely tell that he was really affected by this.
[01:06:08] Speaker B: Yeah, there's, like, anger in it.
[01:06:11] Speaker A: Mm hmm. Yeah.
[01:06:14] Speaker B: You can feel it, even if it's specifically like, oh, you did this? You know what I mean? It's just almost like a stream of. Stream of emotion kind of thing.
[01:06:26] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, it's got a, you know, kind of set the tone for the whole album, kind of, you know, I mean.
[01:06:36] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:06:38] Speaker A: Yeah. Well, it makes sense.
All right, let's continue.
[01:07:03] Speaker D: Some weapon in the hands of one. No, it's blood still cries from the ground?
It runs like a river?
It rolls like a river?
To see close.
[01:08:05] Speaker A: We'll read some lyrics before we continue on that part, but, uh, interesting little break was. Wasn't what I was expecting.
[01:08:14] Speaker B: Yeah, my guess is they left it quiet. You know what I mean? Like, he could have done something on the guitar over that, but they were kind of like.
That would be my guess. Hey, just. Let's just keep this part quiet.
[01:08:28] Speaker A: Yeah, no, I like it. Like I said, it's. It's definitely a.
It's not, like, super departure, but it definitely has a different tone than the rest of the songs, though.
[01:08:41] Speaker B: Yeah, it's a little bit different.
[01:08:43] Speaker A: All right, Frank, go ahead.
[01:08:45] Speaker C: And in the world a heart of darkness? A fire zone where poets speak their heart then bleed for it?
Yara sang is song a weapon in the hands of love?
You know his blood still cries from the ground?
It runs like a river? Runs to the sea? It runs like a river to the sea? And that's where we stop.
[01:09:10] Speaker A: Okay. Yeah. And I misspoke. It was New Zealand, not.
[01:09:15] Speaker B: Yeah, New Zealand. Yeah.
[01:09:18] Speaker A: No, not Australia. New Zealand.
[01:09:22] Speaker B: No. Yeah. I mean, actually, I should have known, because I did read it. I mean, I knew. I already knew what it was about, and I remembered that it was. I didn't remember all the specifics, but when you were, like, Australia, so I didn't even correct you.
[01:09:35] Speaker A: Yeah, that's fine. No, I just read it right now. That's why I make sure I correct myself before someone else corrects me.
You know nothing about you, too.
[01:09:43] Speaker B: Look at this picture from one Tree hill. It's in New Zealand.
[01:09:47] Speaker A: Don't you know the difference? You're stupid.
[01:09:49] Speaker B: Do you know what the Joshua Tree park is?
[01:09:54] Speaker A: I never said I know anything about anything.
Um, yeah, but like I said, you know, sometimes you need to kind of get these things down on paper, you know, get them out.
[01:10:07] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:10:08] Speaker A: Because when it's something that, you know, close to you, it could have sidetracked the whole album. Really?
[01:10:16] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:10:18] Speaker A: So. Yeah.
All right, let's continue. Here we go.
[01:10:36] Speaker D: Mercy for I see you again when we start. Fall from the sky every moon is the river o great ocean o great see I.
[01:12:31] Speaker A: Rook I like that. It was an interesting little guitar fuzz thing. Like, it was so fuzzy, almost couldn't hear it. Yeah, it was so fuzzy.
[01:12:47] Speaker B: Yeah. I mean, they really got a good vocal out of him on this one.
[01:12:51] Speaker A: Yeah. It probably wasn't hard to kind of get that out of him. Probably.
All right, Frankie, why don't you finish up the lyrics, and then, Sabina, you can go after he's done.
[01:13:03] Speaker C: I'll see you again. When the stars fall from the sky and the moon has turned red over one tree hill we run like like a river runs to the sea we run like a river to the sea and when it's raining, raining hard that's when the rain will break the heart raining, raining hard raining in your heart rain, rain into raining, raining, raining, raining to your raining, oh, oh, yeah feel it.
And then that long pause, and there's the outro.
Oh, great ocean oh, great sea run to the ocean run to the sea.
[01:13:50] Speaker B: I mean, the lyrics were actually even better than I remembered.
I'm gonna say a nine on the lyrics. I think they're actually really good. There's definitely feeling the emotion, and, like, some of the comparisons he makes music or in CNA, and I say a nine in the production. I mean, it's a really good song. It's a really good dedication. So, Frank.
[01:14:20] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:14:20] Speaker C: I'm gonna give the lyrics a nine. I mean, wow. They really are moving.
And, like you say, you could definitely pick up all the range of emotions they were that he was feeling in this one, so. I love it. Uh, the music. Gonna give that an eight.
Uh, just.
Just. It's just so great. I get. There's nothing else I can say. Um, in the production, I'm gonna give that an eight again, just following just how well balanced the song is, how you hear it throughout, every instrument, every play, every note. Just clearly, the lyric. Uh, I mean, the vocals here were just great to have. They really were, you know, mark.
[01:15:03] Speaker A: Yeah. I think we all kind of agree that the lyrics are very good. I'm gonna give those a nine again.
I like the guitar part that comes in during the chorus part. That little edge part kind of fits exactly with the. What's the lyric?
Where is it?
Run to the river, run to the sea. That part a run like a river runs to the sea. So I kind of like that. I kind of like that part. So I'm going to give that an eight for the music and then eight on production, I think, again, there's no real badly produced songs here.
Like, everything. Everything sounds pretty good. So, you know, which. Which makes sense. Like, this was a big record. So, you know, the. The production that started at the beginning, you know, is continuing through the record. So I do think that, you know, maybe because I like the other song so much that I probably threw production up a little higher on those. But, yeah, it's definitely. It's not a badly produced song at all.
No. So now the nooks. The next songs exit. Now, I know we. I know this because you said we played it, right? So I'm sure once I hear it, I'll know.
Did we play the feet?
[01:16:18] Speaker B: We did the last time we played.
[01:16:20] Speaker A: Wow. It's pretty funny.
[01:16:21] Speaker B: But the. With the new singer we had.
[01:16:26] Speaker A: Okay.
Yeah, it's pretty.
Once I. Once it comes on, I'm sure I'll remember it. I haven't ever heard it in a while, so, I mean, this is another.
[01:16:35] Speaker B: Pretty heavy song for them.
[01:16:37] Speaker A: Yeah.
All right, well, here we go. Here's exit.
[01:17:08] Speaker D: You know, he caught the cure you know he went astray he used to stay awake to drive the dreams he had away he wanted to believe.
[01:17:21] Speaker B: In.
[01:17:21] Speaker D: The hands of love.
[01:17:40] Speaker A: So this is about a serial killer saying, this is.
[01:17:44] Speaker B: Yep. Yeah, he said it. Hughes.
Forget what book it was.
[01:17:50] Speaker A: The executioner song. Norman Mailer.
[01:17:53] Speaker B: Norman.
[01:17:55] Speaker A: It's a little. It's a little dorsey. Reminds me of a little bit.
Yeah. I vaguely remember this. I wish. I wish we had. Wish we had a recording.
Okay.
I don't remember. It doesn't make much sense that I don't remember playing this, but it is a long time ago, so I'm sure once it comes in full force that I'll remember. But right now, I'm like, I don't remember doing this.
Okay.
[01:18:33] Speaker B: At this point, it's really kind of based on vocals that are really. I mean, you can hear the guitar, but.
[01:18:37] Speaker A: Yes.
Okay, here we go.
You want to do lyrics, Frank, or you want to wait till the next thing's over before we do?
[01:18:46] Speaker C: Let's do the next part.
[01:18:48] Speaker A: Okay.
[01:18:53] Speaker D: As it came across the land the dog started crying like a broken hearted man in the howling wind.
[01:19:03] Speaker A: And the.
[01:19:04] Speaker D: Howling wind.
[01:19:08] Speaker A: Okay, now I remember that.
[01:19:10] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:19:10] Speaker A: Okay. I was like, okay, now it's so weird. Like, you would think I would remember doing that, but up until that part, I'm like, I'm not even too sure I know this song.
[01:19:20] Speaker B: This was just one that. I mean, obviously I had picked, but I just. It was. It was heavy. You know what I mean? It's like one of their heavier songs. And I'm like, if we do it live, probably even heavier. And obviously we had the singer who could handle the vocals, so.
[01:19:36] Speaker A: Yeah, no, yeah, now. Now I'm totally remembering this. Okay. I feel better now. Jesus Christ. Do I not remember anything we did?
[01:19:44] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:19:45] Speaker A: There we go.
[01:19:46] Speaker D: You went deeper in the black, deeper into white heaven is how it could. What?
[01:20:39] Speaker A: Okay. Yeah, 100% remember the song. That's so funny. Yeah, Frank, do the lyrics.
[01:20:45] Speaker C: By the way.
[01:20:45] Speaker A: What was that?
[01:20:46] Speaker C: I thought that that beeping was part of the song.
I heard a beeping, like. Like somebody's alarm was going off.
[01:20:55] Speaker B: Oh, I don't know. So here's the deal. I have a watch somewhere in this room that I don't know where it is. And every once in a while, the alarm goes off randomly.
[01:21:05] Speaker A: No, it doesn't go off randomly. So, you know, it goes off every time. It doesn't go randomly.
[01:21:14] Speaker B: I always hear it. I don't know where the fuck it is in this room.
[01:21:19] Speaker C: So now you know. Now you know. Tomorrow at 1250, be in the room every day.
[01:21:26] Speaker B: Let me tell you something. Makes zero sense that I would have an alarm set at 1250.
It makes zero sense.
[01:21:33] Speaker C: I mean, I'm telling you, I know what happened.
[01:21:35] Speaker B: This watch, I bought it from Amazon for $5. It broke the first time I wore it.
[01:21:42] Speaker C: And then it disappeared.
[01:21:44] Speaker B: Yeah. And I had it down here to try and fix it, and I hear it beeping everyone. And, I mean, it's somewhere in here, but that's good.
[01:21:53] Speaker C: It'll remind me just tomorrow at 1250. 5012 50. Be in that room tomorrow night at 1250.
[01:22:02] Speaker B: Do not.
[01:22:03] Speaker C: And then every subsequent night until you find it. I mean, we just solved your problem.
[01:22:08] Speaker B: I know. I feel like we're in, like, a Columbo murder cases. Like, I hear the watch beeping on the podcast. I knew with you.
[01:22:14] Speaker A: Wow. He's like. He's like. It comes up randomly. No, it's not very random, because I've heard it, like, for the last. I was like, last month and a half, it's been doing.
[01:22:23] Speaker B: Yeah.
No, because I heard it one time. I guess I had the music on lower, but now I got the shit pumping because I fucking love this song. So I didn't hear anything.
[01:22:34] Speaker C: I just gotta tell you that when I heard the alarm, because this is a serial killer, I was like, oh, shit, they put that alarm. Now this dude's gonna go. That's gonna go. Is his reminder to kill. Then I find out, like, it's Savino's house.
[01:22:50] Speaker B: This is now what it called exit. The rock roulette remix.
[01:22:54] Speaker C: Exit.
Wow. They should do a remix and put that alarm clock in there.
All right, here we go.
You know he got the cure you know he went astray he used to stay awake to drive the dreams he had a way he wanted to believe in the hands of love his head, it felt heavy as he cut across the land a dog started crying like a broken hearted man at the howling wind at the howling wind he went deeper into black deeper into white he could see the stars shine like nails in the night he felt the healing healing healing healing hands of love like the stars shiny, shiny from above a hand in the pocket finger on the steel the pistol weighed heavy and his heart, he could feel was beating, beating, beating oh, my love all my love all my love all my love.
[01:24:14] Speaker A: It'S very creepy.
[01:24:16] Speaker C: It is creepy. Mm hmm.
And I think right there, somewhere right there, the pistol weighing heavy and they hear some, you know.
[01:24:29] Speaker A: So we saying that. That the serial killer, like, he was. He was like a time traveler. He got a bad watch from Amazon that he can't shut off. So right. Right before he's trying to kill somebody, it beeps, and he can't fucking figure out how to shut it off or.
[01:24:42] Speaker B: Causing him to kill. He can't find this fucking watch, and he's like, kill somebody. Funny.
I mean, it sounds like, again, if it's obviously. I don't. I've heard of the book. I don't know the book, but I mean, it sounds like, obviously somebody's trying to stop, right? He's trying to find the good in him, to not do this anymore. But you can't.
[01:25:04] Speaker A: Yeah.
No. Yeah. I haven't heard this one in a long time. But now I'm like, oh, yes. Now I remember this thing. It's so funny. Like, you would think that would be, like, a thing I would remember, but obviously not.
[01:25:16] Speaker B: Well, I mean, we did it that one time, right? It isn't something that we kind of kept or brought up even when we were doing covers. Because you played this in a bar. No one's gonna know it.
[01:25:26] Speaker A: Nothing. Like, what the fuck is this?
[01:25:28] Speaker C: Yeah.
Fucking straw freebird. Put the fucking box back on, clowns.
[01:25:36] Speaker B: When you guys play alive, we don't hear the alarm. It's not the same.
[01:25:40] Speaker A: The beeping doesn't happen, so we don't like it.
[01:25:43] Speaker B: Exactly. The beeping hands of love.
[01:25:47] Speaker A: All right, here we go.
Now remembering this. Now I. Now I remember why I liked the song. I always liked that breakdown when it came back down again. Now I remember the song a lot. So weird how, like, I could say I never remember the song that all of a sudden I'm like, oh, yeah, I remember that. I like this a lot.
[01:27:38] Speaker B: Yeah. I just love.
[01:27:40] Speaker A: So weird how that it's just so different. Even when he's. Even when he's trying to do, like, heavy stuff, it's so, so different heavy, which is kind of funny, too.
[01:27:51] Speaker B: And the baseline is really good, too.
[01:27:53] Speaker A: Yeah, the baseline is really awesome.
Again. It's very. It's. It's very door. It's very doors like. Yeah, the structure and breakdown and the way things kind of go low and they go pie again.
You know, they. They ramp up. So it's very different for them. I like it.
Are there any more lyrics, Frank, or. We finish them up.
[01:28:17] Speaker C: So right now, my love. So hands that bill can also pull down the hands of love.
[01:28:30] Speaker A: It's creepy, man.
[01:28:31] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:28:32] Speaker C: I think after I log off, I'm gonna go and ask one of these AI's to write me a movie based on the lyrics of exit. But you do write me a horror movie based on those lyrics. See what I come back with?
[01:28:47] Speaker A: I'd be curious to see what that does.
[01:28:49] Speaker C: Mm hmm.
[01:28:50] Speaker A: That's right. AI's gonna kill us in five years anyway. Won't matter. Don't worry.
[01:28:54] Speaker C: No, you can. Five years.
[01:28:55] Speaker B: Really?
[01:28:57] Speaker A: Skynet's gonna take over. Don't worry. It's gonna happen.
[01:29:00] Speaker C: It's common.
[01:29:02] Speaker A: It's coming.
All right, let's finish this up. We got 30 seconds. Here we go.
There you go. That's awesome.
Interesting. So supposedly. Did you hear about that?
Yeah, the guy who killed the action, Rebecca Schaefer.
Which show was she on? She was on what?
My sister Sam.
My sister Sam.
Yeah.
That's crazy that he said that the film influenced them to do that.
Freaky people.
And I never. I never understand how they can say, oh, this music made me do this. All right, dude, whatever.
Frank, do you want to go first?
[01:30:29] Speaker C: Yeah. You know, not knowing the history of or the inspiration for this song.
God, diet. So I didn't think that you two had it enough to write this kind of a dark thing, so. Love it. Love the lyrics. I'm gonna give that an eight.
Again, the production can't do anything less than an eight on that one.
And the music, I love. I love the bass in this one. The bass was just really whisked it out to me throughout the whole song. So I'm gonna give the music an eight. Seth?
[01:31:04] Speaker B: Yeah, I'm gonna say an eight on the lyrics, a nine on the music and a nine on the production. I mean, I just think it was really well balanced. It was loud when it had to be, and it was, you know, heavy when it had to be. I mean, again, I've always liked this song and I had a lot of fun playing it on the drum. So this was always a standout song to me.
[01:31:33] Speaker A: Yeah, I remember.
I do remember why we did this now, because I, like you said, I think it was that one of the heavier things we could have done from them, so.
And who else is playing? This is like a cover, like, nobody probably normally have happened. So.
[01:31:55] Speaker B: This was it, like 89? I don't remember what year was when we paid that last time at the.
[01:32:00] Speaker A: Feast, honestly, 90, maybe. So it was a couple years. It was two or three years after this album was out, I would think nine. Yeah, I would think 1990. That sounds about right.
So lyrics? Yeah, I'm gonna give it an eight. Creepy lyrics by the creepy thing.
Again, very, very doors esque to me.
Musicianship. Nine. I'm gonna give a nine on music. I love the bass line.
There's not a lot of guitar in there, but there's a lot of noisy stuff, which I kind of like. And that's probably what I did. Probably. I don't remember what. I have no clue what I did, but I wish there was a recording of that because I would like to have heard that. I don't remember. And production. Eight. Yeah, everything was great. I like the places where they took everything out and made it very, very. Just bass and drums and yeah. Everything was great on that. I could see why it was a choice that you did.
[01:32:54] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:32:54] Speaker A: So. Yeah, so the last song on the album, mothers of the disappeared.
So what is this about? Supposedly, he went to Nicaragua and he learned that a group of women's children had forcibly disappeared.
Meaning what? The.
[01:33:18] Speaker B: The government took them, so they basically kidnapped or killed. Like, they never knew what happened to their kids.
[01:33:24] Speaker A: Mmm. That sucks.
[01:33:25] Speaker B: He actually had them up on stage shows.
[01:33:28] Speaker A: Oh, really? The mothers.
[01:33:31] Speaker B: The mothers. Yeah.
[01:33:32] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:33:35] Speaker B: All right, so this is very atmospheric. I'll let you know. Now, this is a cool thing to do with the drums, where you may or may not be able to tell it's the drums, but it is a drum loop. So, I mean, it's real. It's him playing it, but it's, like, through this effect.
I mean, again, I've always loved this song, too.
[01:33:57] Speaker A: Yeah. I don't know if I remember this one, but, um. We'll see.
All right, here we go. Mothers of the disappeared.
[01:35:54] Speaker D: After.
In the way we see the tears here.
[01:36:38] Speaker A: Yeah. It's very. Definitely atmospheric, I would say. Right? You said it is very atmospheric.
Yeah. Like it. And is that what.
[01:36:51] Speaker B: That is something.
Yeah. Because I actually saw them. I guess they never really thought about it, but I saw an interview with Daniel, and he showed the. Whatever they did to do it. He goes, yeah, those are actually just real drums, but it's put through whatever.
It's actually nice. I don't think I've ever really listened to the song on headphones, so I'm picking up on stuff that I hadn't heard before.
[01:37:14] Speaker A: Okay.
Yeah, no, it's definitely.
[01:37:17] Speaker B: I mean, it's a haunting song.
[01:37:19] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. Well, especially knowing what the lyrics are about.
Speaking of lyrics, Frank.
[01:37:27] Speaker C: Yeah.
Midnight. Our sons and daughters were cut down and taken from us. Hear their heartbeat. We hear their heartbeat in the wind. We hear their laughter in the rain. We see their tears. Hear their heartbeat. We hear their heartbeat and. Oh. Oh, that's it.
[01:37:58] Speaker B: It's actually. Ooh. Ooh, Frank.
[01:38:00] Speaker C: Oh, okay. Ooh. Ooh.
[01:38:05] Speaker A: Get it right, Frank.
[01:38:07] Speaker B: Yes.
[01:38:09] Speaker C: Oh, Mark. Smart. Mark is gonna be busy come Monday. Yeah, man. Get it right. Spell. Oh. Oh.
[01:38:16] Speaker A: I don't have to cut it all out when I. When I'm editing it. Just cut the ooze out.
[01:38:20] Speaker C: Oh, yeah. I'm gonna show you my old face, man.
[01:38:27] Speaker A: Come on, Frank. This is a very serious song.
[01:38:29] Speaker C: This is a serious song, Frank. It's called oh, liking. Oh, why don't you go fuck yourself? You can't do it, right?
[01:38:34] Speaker B: No, it's ooh. Why don't you go fuck yourself?
You made a mistake again, man. Oh.
[01:38:41] Speaker C: Why don't you go fuck yourself?
[01:38:46] Speaker A: Yeah. I mean, just. Just to write a song about how, you know, government just takes your kids and just kills them and you never. You never find them again.
That's crazy.
And they got the synthesizer going. That's Brian Eno with the synthesizer, supposedly, so that's pretty cool, too.
All right, here we go. Let's continue.
[01:39:46] Speaker D: Blue. You.
[01:40:45] Speaker A: So, just coming back to that little thing you said. So, basically, they took the drum loop. He used the piano as a percussive instrument and mixed the result with the drum loop through a PCM 70, which is like a reverb delay kind of thing. And that's how they got that. That's how they got that loop. That's the background of the song.
[01:41:07] Speaker B: Yeah. There's so much going on, like, when you really listen to it as the vocal still going on, you got the drum, the bass. Yeah. I mean, there's a lot of. A lot of little layers going on, but they're also well balanced. Right. Nothing is really.
[01:41:25] Speaker A: No, yeah, nothing's over anything. Yeah, no, it's really well produced.
It's really good. Frank, I think this is the last part of the lyrics. You might as well read them out before we fade it out.
[01:41:38] Speaker C: Mm hmm.
Night hangs like a prisoner stretched over black and blue hear their heartbeats we hear their heartbeats in the trees our sons stand naked through the walls our daughters cry see their tears in the rainfall there you go.
[01:42:05] Speaker A: Anymore oohs or. No?
[01:42:07] Speaker C: No more ooze. Or Oz.
[01:42:09] Speaker A: Okay.
[01:42:09] Speaker B: Or o's?
[01:42:11] Speaker C: No. Ooh, Oz. O's.
[01:42:15] Speaker A: Now we got a little bit left to go. Let's.
So you really hear. You really hear there? Yeah, but that's going on pretty much through the whole song, but it's just mixed so well, you don't hear it, but it's cool that they faded everything out and they left that at the end.
[01:43:36] Speaker B: Yep.
[01:43:38] Speaker A: It's a weird way to end the album. I think.
[01:43:40] Speaker B: I like it, though. I think. I think it. Yeah, I do. I think it's a.
It's a. You know what I mean? Could kind of. Kind of comes in like a lion, a put down, but, yeah, I think.
I think it's a good ender. I mean, maybe. I mean, maybe you could say switch to last. I don't know.
I do like it that it ends.
[01:44:15] Speaker A: Yeah. I don't know. Maybe exit could have been a better ending song. Maybe. I don't know. It really depends what kind of statement you're trying to make, I guess. Right?
[01:44:22] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:44:24] Speaker A: So this is the statement he wanted to make. So that's. That's. That's the way they did it.
[01:44:27] Speaker B: So, yeah, I mean, if you think about it.
[01:44:29] Speaker A: Right.
[01:44:29] Speaker B: I mean, other than with or without you, it's the calmest song on.
On the record.
[01:44:35] Speaker A: Mm hmm.
[01:44:35] Speaker B: You see, everything is really. It's pretty upbeat, so.
But, yeah, you can. You can definitely make that argument of having something else.
[01:44:47] Speaker A: All right, I guess I'll go first. Um, so I'm gonna give the lyrics an eight, just because of the nature of what he's trying to accomplish by saying these things and how these things happen so that people don't feel like these things can just happen and no one knows. So that's good.
Music's pretty interesting. I like that whole loop thing and running it through the delay and reverb and coming back. So just for that, overall, I'm gonna give it an eight, and, yeah, production again. Eight again. Because everything pretty much on this record is mixed very, very well.
Frank?
[01:45:22] Speaker C: Yeah. I love the lyrics. I mean, you know, behind such a strong topic. Um, so I love the lyrics, and definitely gonna give those a nine. Um, the music, um, I wasn't expecting that when I heard. So very unique. And, of course, it goes right down to what sav was saying, that you two is not scared to experiment. So, uh, for my first listen, I really did like it. So I'm gonna give that an eight as well. And, of course, the production, like every other song here, I'm gonna go ahead and give that an eight as well.
[01:45:57] Speaker B: Yeah, I'm gonna go eight, eight, nine. I mean, there's a lot going on in the production, and it's so well balanced, and there's concepts that are going on there that are really cool.
Again, I mean, I've always really loved this song, so.
[01:46:15] Speaker A: Yeah.
So, Frank, you haven't heard this before. This is the first time you're hearing this? Because I don't think I heard this.
[01:46:21] Speaker C: I have not. I don't ever. I. This is something I would have probably remembered. Definitely remembered.
[01:46:27] Speaker A: Supposedly, they played it on the 360 tour. Supposedly.
And they played it on the Joshua Tree tour. Obviously.
[01:46:36] Speaker C: Did they play it ever? Well, I don't.
[01:46:39] Speaker A: Joshua Tree. When they did. Yeah, on the Joshua tree one, they.
[01:46:42] Speaker B: Did it when I went to see them, though.
[01:46:46] Speaker A: No, no. Well, no, on the original Joshua retreat tour, they played it only seven times on the.
[01:46:53] Speaker B: Okay.
[01:46:55] Speaker A: On the Joshua Tree set, 2017 and 2019 tour.
[01:46:58] Speaker B: Yes. Okay.
[01:46:59] Speaker A: They played it. And then they played it on.
They played on the third leg of the 360 tour, so I don't know what leg of the 360 tour you. You saw, Frank?
[01:47:09] Speaker C: I don't remember. I gotta look it up. You know what I have. I have to set lit somewhere.
I just don't remember hearing it.
[01:47:17] Speaker A: You know, who knows? You might not have. And maybe they didn't play it. It's possible.
[01:47:21] Speaker C: Yeah.
[01:47:23] Speaker A: All right, well, let's. Let's sum up the record. Frank, if you're going to sum up this record, what do you think?
[01:47:29] Speaker C: I mean, it was definitely the first time I was introduced to you, too. So it has that special place. And every song, I mean, side a. I mean, it's like an instant classic. Every. Every song is just better than the next. And so this right here, this ranks probably, I would say, probably my top five of all time. It's definitely going to be on my rocket ship to Mars when we all move. I'm going to take this with me. This cd.
[01:48:01] Speaker A: Are you in a Elon Musk and share headphones? And while you guys are going up so you both can listen to this.
[01:48:06] Speaker B: Well, they don't have to share headphones. They just insert it inside them.
What's it called? The link. The, uh.
[01:48:13] Speaker C: The link, yes.
They're gonna put it right. Put it right there.
[01:48:22] Speaker A: That's too funny. Well, I'll go next. Um, yeah, I agree with Frank that, um.
I think that, you know, the first four songs are so strong. They're so strong.
Not that. Not that the second side is bad, but it's hard to beat the first side. It's almost impossible. You had four huge, gigantic songs that are so good that it's almost impossible for anything that comes after it to be, in my estimation, to be as good. Not that there's not good stuff on the second side, because there is. It's just, you definitely see the turn and the change from the first side to the second side.
And I like that they take chances on the second side, but really, you could give people those first four songs. It makes the whole album.
Like, those songs were so popular and so everywhere, you couldn't get away from them.
And the videos are so popular that, you know, I guess after this album, they had. They felt they had to change, right?
Because.
[01:49:21] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:49:21] Speaker A: Really wrote another album like this again, did they?
[01:49:25] Speaker B: No. No. Well, I mean, after this, obviously, was rattling home, which kind of has. I mean, again, some of the stuff, I think, is even from the sessions, for the session.
And then I remember Ronald saying an interview like one time, I don't know where they were, but he and his wife were dancing and she said, you know, it seems like you don't have fun anymore, you know, like he was just too serious about everything. And so that's where octane baby came out. Came out of.
[01:49:57] Speaker A: Yeah. Cuz that's a little more lighthearted, right, than this is. I mean, this is a pretty serious. It's a pretty serious record.
[01:50:03] Speaker B: Yeah, but see, that's the thing. It. It is in a sense. Like, there are some songs. But there are some songs that are really heavy, too. Like emotionally heavy. Right. I mean, when you think about a song like one, I mean, those are heavy lyrics.
[01:50:16] Speaker A: Mm hmm.
[01:50:17] Speaker B: I mean, you know, this is fun stuff, too. Mysterious ways and even better than the real thing. There's definitely some stuff that is a little bit light hearted.
[01:50:32] Speaker A: Well, but this record is. This record is very heavy.
Everything's pretty heavy.
I don't think there's any song here that's super duper light. There's not really light hearted going on here.
But that's what makes the records maybe.
[01:50:47] Speaker B: You know what I mean? It's kind of.
[01:50:49] Speaker A: Yeah, but, but, but it really makes it. It makes the reason why this album is what it is.
[01:50:55] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean, right? You can't. If you don't like it, you don't like it. I mean, you can't. You can't forcibly, like something, no matter how many albums it's old or how many. How many people like it or whatever.
But I think, and again, I will say that the unforgettable fire is my favorite album.
It's where I came in and. But it probably has what to do with it.
But I mean, there's a reason this album sold so well.
It's just. You know what I mean? It's just from stem to stern. It's just. It's a very solid album.
[01:51:34] Speaker A: And I'm sure that the average person listening to this is not even paying attention to what the lyrics in the first four songs are. More than likely, it's just because the melodies are good and is very catchy and. You know what I mean, that. Are they even listening to the actual layers? I don't even know. I don't think I. I listen to the lyrics that much when I listen to those songs.
So, you know, it's just a testament to how you can get songs with that kind of lyrical content to be, like, that popular.
[01:52:05] Speaker B: I mean, they've been.
That's funny, because at this point, I already had, like, all the albums before this one. So, I mean, I was. I was deep in you two territory.
[01:52:15] Speaker A: Yes.
[01:52:15] Speaker B: Album came out. So this. This was a. This was the first album, the first new album that I have.
[01:52:22] Speaker A: You. There you go. See?
[01:52:25] Speaker B: So everything else had already been out. My uncle bought me three or four vinyls when he would see the other ones that I didn't have. But I knew all of them from him, so I knew all the songs. Writing.
[01:52:36] Speaker A: Yeah.
Yeah. For me too. I mean, it's just. It's just, it's such a great record. So, I mean, you know, I'm glad we ended up doing this. I didn't know that's what we were gonna get. When I said, well, we had slippery. Let's spit it one more time and see what we have. What we get. I'm glad we did that because this is a great album to get.
[01:52:56] Speaker B: Yeah. I mean, listen, I'm always nervous it's gonna be somebody.
[01:52:59] Speaker A: I know, I know. You said that going to be some album you don't know a lot about, which is fine.
[01:53:05] Speaker B: I mean, listen, I don't mind again, like, I still have to say that they're my favorite band, but I had one point. I did kind of lapse off.
[01:53:13] Speaker A: Yeah. Happens to everybody.
[01:53:16] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:53:16] Speaker A: All, don't you do your thing.
[01:53:18] Speaker B: So we are part of the deep dive podcast network. And great bunch of guys took us in right away. I don't think they have the YouTube podcast, but you name a band, almost every other band that's famous rock, and it's on there. I mean, Raya, he talk Petty, rush again. Shout out to our boys at rush. Ras. Shout out to the Judas Priest podcast. Shout out to everybody. So we get little, we get some positive vibes from them too, on our social media. So obviously right back at them and check them out if you want. Not what we do, which is obviously, you know, we just never know what we're gonna get. And these guys talk about the bands that they love and all the knowledge, so. And Mark, where can they find us.
[01:53:59] Speaker A: On interwebs, rockered led pod, all social media. Rockwell, podcast.com. as I say all the time, please give us five star reviews on whatever platform you listen to that helps us out. Awesome. A lot. So. And set us to be auto downloaded so you get the latest episode every time we do this. And we're trying to be super consistent and trying to do it every week for everybody. So, um, it becomes, you know, it becomes a weekly thing for us. So we tend to do this late. So sometimes a little puncture punch drunk as we're freaking recording this. So that's why we can't always get Frankie on, because he's like, I'm sleeping, dude.
[01:54:43] Speaker C: Yeah.
[01:54:44] Speaker B: This. This podcast runs two days. It starts off in one day, and it ends in the next.
[01:54:49] Speaker A: Pretty much. Pretty much. So that's why it's not always easy to get guests on this podcast, because unless they're on the. On the west coast, who wants to do this this late? Yeah, but it is what it is. And then next week, we get to spin the wheel. Hopefully, Frank will be back for this. Wheel spin.
[01:55:07] Speaker C: Next week, I will be here.
[01:55:09] Speaker A: Okay. All right, cool. That'd be good. All right, so that was a great episode. I'm glad. Hopefully everybody. Hopefully every. Everyone liked it, and we'll see you next week.
[01:55:19] Speaker C: Take care.
[01:55:20] Speaker A: Later, guys.