Episode 93 - U2 - The Joshua Tree (Part 1)

[00:00:04] Speaker A: This is our musical reaction, breakdown and commentary analysis of this song. Under fair use, we intend no copyright infringement, and this is not a replacement for listening to the artist's music. The content made available on this podcast is for educational and informational purposes only, notwithstanding a copyright owner's rights under the Copyright act. Section 107 of the Copyright act allows limited use of copyrighted material without requiring permission from the rights holders for purposes such as education, criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research. These so called fair uses are permitted even if the use of the work would otherwise be infringing. Now onto the rock Roulette podcast hey, everybody. Welcome back to another episode of Rock Roulette podcast. That's right, the Crazy Ass podcast that took over 1200 albums, stuck it in a list, stuck them in a wheel. And typically every other week we spin the wheel, she picks an album for us, and we go through it side by side, track by tracking, and we talk about the music, the lyrics and production, and we rate it out of ten. Again, just a bunch of friends who wanted to do a podcast, just having some fun. And again, we want to thank anybody who listens. If you like us, spread the word. If you don't like us, tell us what you don't like. We can always change something if it'll get us more listeners. Make a suggestion, maybe a record you want to hear or anything you want. Just again, drop us a note. Mark always gets back to everybody right away. So again, we want to thank everybody. Tonight, we are a duo. We have Mark. Oh, hi, Mark. [00:02:01] Speaker B: What's up, guys? [00:02:02] Speaker A: And I'm Sav ciao Buena Sierra. So last week, we wrapped up the Eagles third album on the border. And actually, I guess Mark was saying that I was the harshest one, which I would never have expected. I think ultimately, my thing was overall. I mean, when it comes to the greatest hits, I definitely, you know, I really like the Eagles. I think they have a lot of good songs, and I was expecting to find some hidden gems on this that I'd never heard before, especially since I only know two songs going into it. But, and again, not that the things are bad. I mean, obviously the musicianship is always going to be good. You know, we discovered, obviously, Randy Mizner is a really good bass player. The vocals are always going to be great, but I don't know, to me, felt a little disjointed, maybe so technically disappointed. But again, this doesn't, you know, take away from the fact that I, you know, that I definitely like the Eagles overall. What do you think, Mark? [00:03:03] Speaker B: Yeah, I enjoy the Eagles generally, as I'm a greatest hits guy there, too. I was expecting to find some stuff I really, really liked. But, you know, again, I know very little about their career wise, but I do know, like, after this record, there's two more records and they broke up. So even the. The band that I thought was the Eagles, you know, their. Their mainstream thing with Joe Walsh, it's not really the case. I mean, they only had two records, really. There was more records before that than there was at that. So, I mean, there's actually three more records after this. Oh, there's three. I took two. [00:03:38] Speaker A: Technically, four. There was something that was released, I think, in the two thousands. But, yeah, after this was, um. I think it was one of these nights. Then Hotel California, and then long run. [00:03:50] Speaker B: Okay. See, I was wrong. Ready? See, I know nothing. Pretty much. What do I know? I know zero. But, yeah, I was expecting to find some hidden gem kind of stuff. And, you know, it wasn't bad. It just. [00:04:05] Speaker A: No, no. [00:04:08] Speaker B: Just, yeah. [00:04:12] Speaker A: So we get to spin the wheel again. Yes, we do. Which is always a lot of fun. Again, she tends to pick the. She's picked some popular bands, but not necessarily popular records, which to me is cool. I'm okay with that. I mean, sometimes she nails it on the nose, like, obviously Bon Jovi, New Jersey, she nailed, I mean, right out of the park with that one. If you want to talk about famous albums from famous bands. And, I mean, before that, I mean, motley crue, obviously. Girls, girls, girls. But, uh, you know, again, Judith priest first album, Eagles third album, uh, what was it? STP's fifth album. Was it at that point that we did? [00:04:52] Speaker B: I think. Yep. I think so. [00:04:54] Speaker A: So, again, anybody who says you guys are not random, is that real? Yeah, it is. I promise you. [00:05:02] Speaker B: Yeah. Because if we were picking it ourselves, we probably wouldn't be picking those albums. [00:05:05] Speaker A: Yeah. Probably something at least closer to an era that we know from. Maybe a band, something like that. So. But, yeah. What are you thinking? [00:05:16] Speaker B: Um. I don't ever get this right. I don't know. I would. I would like to say again still. I'm still gonna stay on the eighties cheesy hair metal thing as I'm waiting for. [00:05:30] Speaker A: Yeah, I'm thinking eighties or nineties. I mean, last week, Steve and I said, two weeks ago, Steve and I had said seventies, and he was very disappointed that it was Eagles. [00:05:42] Speaker B: Yeah, it was seventies, though. [00:05:44] Speaker A: The greatest hits fan. Yeah. Yeah, we nailed the decade. So whatever. Whatever. She. [00:05:54] Speaker B: Whatever comes up, comes up. [00:05:56] Speaker A: Exactly. Just have some fun with it, that's all. [00:05:59] Speaker B: Alright, you ready to spin? I'm ready to spin, yes, I'm ready. Can you see the wheel? [00:06:05] Speaker A: I see it. [00:06:07] Speaker B: All right, here we go. Ah, here we go again. [00:06:33] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:06:34] Speaker B: Kings and Leon. But we just did them. We can't do them again. [00:06:38] Speaker A: Yeah. Isn't that funny? [00:06:40] Speaker B: Yeah. Was this the same. Was this the same dying present? [00:06:43] Speaker A: No, no. Oh, you mean. I don't remember which one I picked last time. We were like, you know what I say? [00:06:50] Speaker B: But what? [00:06:50] Speaker A: Let's. Let's keep them in the till. I mean, clearly she wants us to do kings of Leon again. So, I mean, if you're okay with it in terms of as soon as maybe we're done with the time to wait that we kind of establish as a rule, we just throw them in. [00:07:05] Speaker B: There and we could. Well, we're gonna spin it again. Yeah. I don't know. Obviously she wants us to listen to Kings and Leon. [00:07:14] Speaker A: I say after ten records or whatever we said in the beginning, we just throw one of them in there. [00:07:20] Speaker B: All right, let's do it again. Here we go. Another spin. So let me, let me close this out. Here we go. I can't do that one either. [00:07:51] Speaker A: Has it. How long has it been? [00:07:53] Speaker B: Bon Jon Jovi slippery when wet. Okay, let me. Let me go back and see. [00:07:57] Speaker A: That could be close. [00:07:59] Speaker B: That could. That could be close. I'm gonna look right now. Let's take a look. You would think I would know this, but I don't know this, honestly. I think. Let's see. Here we go. I'm looking. So we have to set ten, right? 1234-5678 910. Yes. We can do it. [00:08:24] Speaker A: Okay, let's do it. [00:08:25] Speaker B: So are we gonna do it? I say, you know, this is what I say. I say it's. It's Bon Jovi slippery when wet. If I didn't say what it was, I say we spend one more time. [00:08:38] Speaker A: Okay. [00:08:39] Speaker B: And if we get something we really want to do, we do it. Otherwise, Bon Jovi is what we're doing. [00:08:44] Speaker A: Okay. [00:08:45] Speaker B: How's that? [00:08:46] Speaker A: I know, I know. A couple guys will be upset that they're not here for this one. [00:08:51] Speaker B: Oh, no, I know. All right, one more time. Here we go. [00:09:19] Speaker A: Oh, wow. [00:09:20] Speaker B: We got to do that one, Sabrina. I'm sorry. [00:09:22] Speaker A: All right, so will trump. Okay. Okay. [00:09:25] Speaker B: Yeah. This. This has to trump sliver when wet. [00:09:28] Speaker A: Okay. I mean, they've never come up and you want to talk about big albums. You too, Joshua Tree. [00:09:34] Speaker B: And it happens to be your favorite band. [00:09:37] Speaker A: My favorite band, yes. And probably not my favorite album, but not for any other reason than nostalgia and stuff like that. But, I mean, obviously, consider their magnum opus. [00:09:55] Speaker B: Wow. I was. I was just. I didn't expect that. [00:10:01] Speaker A: No. [00:10:02] Speaker B: So many things. [00:10:04] Speaker A: The other one came out, and we're talking about not having big albums from big bands, but talk about back to back. [00:10:13] Speaker B: Yeah. I mean, I would have done either of them, but I think we have to do this just because the bonjour was so close. [00:10:19] Speaker A: Okay. Yeah. And, I mean, we've never had. Obviously, you, too. [00:10:22] Speaker B: This is a first for us. We spun, like, three times. That never happens. [00:10:25] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:10:27] Speaker B: Yeah. We've played. How many of these songs have we played? Let's see, two, three, probably, like, four songs out of here. We played at one by one time or another. [00:10:37] Speaker A: Yeah. Well, I don't know if you. Well, obviously, we used to do. I will follow. But the last time we played at a certain outdoor feast, we actually did exit. Did we do exit the other side? Yeah, we did. [00:10:53] Speaker B: Oh, my God. I don't remember that. [00:10:55] Speaker A: Yeah. Because I wanted. I wanted to do something that wasn't as famous. And I remember basically two people from one of the other bands that we grew up with in the neighborhood knew it, and that was about it. But I think we did a pretty good version, so. [00:11:13] Speaker B: Yeah, I don't. I don't even remember that. [00:11:16] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:11:17] Speaker B: I'll take your word for it. I probably. When I hear the song again. I haven't listened to this in a long time, but. Yeah. That's crazy. I'm glad we got this for you. At least we got one of your bands. Like, it only took 90 episodes. [00:11:31] Speaker A: That is funny. I know. I was. See, here's the funny deal. The funny thing about that, you know, when you kind of really like something, don't know if everyone else is gonna like it. I mean, obviously, if it gets to something where it's weird and. But, I mean, obviously, this is. This is a classic for a reason. I bought this. I actually remember where I was when I heard with or without you, the first single, because I got into them. My uncle in Italy got me into them, and this was the first new album that I actually had from them. So he was here in 1987. He was visiting. And this came out. I don't remember exactly when, but. [00:12:18] Speaker B: March. [00:12:19] Speaker A: March, yeah, we were visiting my aunt somewhere in the Bronx, and they're like, oh, the new. The next up. Oh, they said, next up, the new single by you two. And it was like, three songs later. So as we're pulling up to my aunt's driveway. It finally came on. I was like, oh, that's pretty cool. [00:12:43] Speaker B: Yeah. I mean. I mean, to me, this is the most famous album that I know from them. Even though we've played a bunch of songs from other stuff and we played a bunch from here. I just. I think when. When you tell people, you two, they think of this album. [00:12:59] Speaker A: I think, yeah, I mean, this is their big. I mean, this is what put them on the map massively. [00:13:08] Speaker B: It's. It's diamond certified. So it's 10 million albums in the United States. So it's kind of crazy. Yeah, I'm. Well, I'm glad we got this. See, I'm glad. At least. At least you got one of your band so far. That's good. That's good. [00:13:27] Speaker A: I mean, if you're gonna get one. [00:13:29] Speaker B: So what else about this album you wanna talk about? [00:13:35] Speaker A: Well, I mean, it's the same producers from the unforgettable Fire and October baby which is Daniel Lenoir and Brian Eno. And I see a lot of people are really like, first three albums, you two. And then they're not. They don't really like stuff past that. But I like, up until a certain point where I kind of haven't listened as much. But I mean, obviously this one I have memorized. I mean, I just. I really love the production on this. On this album. They're very atmospheric. I mean, Brian Eno was an ambient music maker who'd been around. Daniel Lenoir was. I think he's canadian, but he's worked with a bunch of people. So again, my uncle bought it for me and we listened to it straight through the first time. And I remember pretty much liking every song. And I mean, looking at the song list even though as if I didn't have it memorized, I still like every song on this record. [00:14:35] Speaker B: So I would assume. [00:14:37] Speaker A: I don't think there's a conquer. [00:14:40] Speaker B: Well, there probably isn't. I. I don't remember. I haven't listened to it a long time. I. The exit's gonna be funny because I haven't ever. I'm now. Yeah, I. Sure, I'll remember. Yeah, but. [00:14:52] Speaker A: Yeah. Well, I mean, I don't know if I told you, but I found that old tape that we had done when we were showing the new singer the songs. One side is us playing like three or four originals but the other side, they were the songs that we. The covers that we were doing. So with or without you and exit are both on there. [00:15:15] Speaker B: Really? Oh, I gotta hear that. I haven't heard that in a long time. That'd be cool to hear. Very nice. Well, I'm excited. I mean, there's a whole bunch of songs here that I like. [00:15:28] Speaker A: I'm glad we got. We got this one. [00:15:31] Speaker B: Well, you could have got a later one. You might not have liked that as much. So. [00:15:35] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean, again, they're my favorite band, but I kind of fell off a bit. I wasn't. I wasn't a big fan of, like, the pop era. Even though discotheque is one of my favorite YouTube songs. I mean, that's such a guilty pleasure for me. The one after that I really liked. And then after that, I really kind of. I fell off a bit. [00:15:58] Speaker B: Well, I'm sure that there are YouTube fans that hate that era of the band and this. [00:16:07] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean, they've adapted. You know what I mean? They've changed with the times and they've kept. They've kept themselves relevant. There's still a massive cell. It's not. It's not. And I know that they annoy some people, but, hey, listen, they came at a time where most of the music I listened to was metal. And this was just something that I, you know, that's always been a fan of pop and rock and whatever. I mean, that's always been there. But the main things that I will listen, you know, I was listening to back then was about all. So this was a bit different, but I still really got into it. [00:16:51] Speaker B: Yeah, no, I think this is gonna be great. All right, cool. All right, well, let's do this then. So, obviously, I know the song where the streets have no name. And I think anyone who grew up in the time we grew up, you couldn't get away from this. [00:17:08] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:17:09] Speaker B: So it's a great song. So without further ado, here we go. So you obviously know who plays guitar on this. Just by hearing that, I would never say, like, to me, like, he's like a super. What you call it. He's not a super technical guitar player. I think he would say that too, especially. Especially on the earlier stuff. I think he was just trying to figure out his sound and he didn't play, like, what all the eighties guitar players did, so he was. He was more about the song and more about the texture of what he was doing. So I give him credit. Anyone that can make a sound that, when you think about it, you go, that's the edge. Because that's the sound. Like, you hear that and you're like, that's. That's what the edge sounds like. That's what. That's what you two sounds like. So if you can actually do that, it's kind of great. [00:19:30] Speaker A: Yeah. And I mean, he's a. He's a player where again, the sound is simple. Right. But if someone plays in that style, he's the one you think of. [00:19:41] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. No, no, no. To me it's a very. It's very memorable. And, you know, I know people probably like, bag on him because he's not. He's not super technical. I mean, I think he's better than people think he is. And maybe at the beginning, you know, he wasn't as good, but. And he would probably say that too, you know, and he was just trying to get through and trying to figure out what his style was going to be. But I think this kind of like cemented his style for better and worse because I think then they all expected this to be what he was going to do all the time because this was so big, which is kind of like a bad thing for him, too. It's not the best thing in the world to have all of a sudden, you know? [00:20:27] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean, this was the movie rattling home. So, I mean, the songs on there already changing, but a little bit different. They're not changing in the Octagon baby sense. They're kind of just some tributes to kind of like some of the souls. And it's funny because it's the song on there that I like the most. On Rattlenheim is the most you two sounding song. And I think it's from these sessions. [00:20:56] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean, they got so big that this is what their sound is, right. For better or for worse. This is what everyone wants them to sound like. And they don't all probably don't always want to sound like this. And maybe if you're an earlier YouTube fan who came in before this record, right, this may not be your favorite YouTube sound. It may not be. [00:21:15] Speaker A: So, I mean, for me, I used to do marketing door to door and there was this irish, irish woman. So the assumption, right? Oh, you're irish. You like you too. She goes, well, I like the first three albums, but the other ones are all shite. I was like, what? I was like, unforgettable Fire, Joshua Tree. What are you nuts? [00:21:33] Speaker B: October Babe? [00:21:34] Speaker A: She goes, yeah, they're all shite. I was like, damn, yeah, that. [00:21:38] Speaker B: People have a very strong opinion of that. So. But I like. I like his guitar tone. I like the dotted 8th note delay thing. That's become his thing. You know where you hear that all the time? Now, like, praise and worship music kind of rips off you two in lots. Lots of their stuff. I know I might get it, like, hammered for that, but to me, when I hear praise and worship music, it sounds like you, too, which is a lot of it. [00:22:06] Speaker A: I heard more play christian death metal sound like you, too. [00:22:10] Speaker B: No. All right, let's continue. Here we go. [00:22:45] Speaker C: I wanna run I want to hide I wanna tear down the walls and hold me inside I wanna reach out and touch the flame. [00:23:17] Speaker B: Yeah. It's such. Such an iconic song. [00:23:20] Speaker A: Yeah, absolutely. [00:23:22] Speaker B: So what is this song about? [00:23:27] Speaker A: So, actually, I thought it was. I thought it was about something else, but they're saying it's in regard to people associating themselves with certain areas in terms of, like, money and everything. So this is about streets that have no name. So nothing. It's nothing to define you, kind of. [00:23:46] Speaker B: Okay. Yeah. I mean, for me, you know, again, I wasn't. I wasn't the. It's so funny. Like, I wasn't the biggest YouTube fan in the time that we were there. I have more. I have more respect for them now and their music now than I did back then. I mean, it's funny because we played a lot of you two songs. I didn't hate them by any stretch, but I think I like them more now than I'd like them then. That makes sense. [00:24:16] Speaker A: Yeah. Oh, absolutely. It happens. I mean, there's. I forgot what we did one time. I was like, oh, you know, I like them better now than I did back in the day. But it happens, right? Sometimes. And sometimes we have our own prejudices, let's say. You know what I mean? Auditory prejudices. And sometimes you just don't give certain things a real listen. [00:24:41] Speaker B: So you're like, I don't like it. [00:24:45] Speaker A: Exactly. Yeah. Like, this is not mine. Like, when we did the Rush record, I mean, Rush was one of my favorite bands, for whatever reason. I had this thing for that record. I don't know what it was, but. [00:24:58] Speaker B: Yeah. Well, as far as production goes, it's all super clear. I like the drum sound. I like guitar sound. The bass sound is awesome. His vocals sound good. [00:25:08] Speaker A: Yeah. I mean, I personally think that they. The rhythm section in this band is underrated. Like, without a doubt, having listened to them. I know one time Henry Rollins said that they're the worst written section that he's ever heard. Just fine. You're entitled to your own opinion, I think. Because Bono and edge are so big, right? [00:25:28] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:25:29] Speaker A: People don't pay attention necessarily, unless, I mean, obviously, I don't have to tell you how much he's influenced me as a drummer. Right. I mean, without a doubt, but that's the thing, right? He could say he could easily play something on the hi hat bass rope, but he does it. And again, yes. Does he play a lot of this? Absolutely. But again, he's formulating a style, and whether you realize it or not, it's part of their sound. It's just in the background, so you don't really pay. And, you know, Adam. Adam Clayton plays. He does a lot of these bass lines. You don't necessarily think about it, but because of the way the edge plays. Right. He doesn't always play straight up riffs. I mean, think about with or without you, but even here. So something has to be behind him to hold up what he's doing. [00:26:21] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:26:21] Speaker A: Just like in New Year's Day, everybody thinks the piano is New Year's Day. It's not really the piano. It's the bass line that really carries that song. [00:26:29] Speaker B: What's very similar to me with. It's like. It's like Michael Anthony Van Halen. Like, he couldn't do all this crazy stuff because he had to hold the bottom down for Eddie Van Halen, otherwise his stuff wouldn't have sounded as good. So it's very similar. [00:26:44] Speaker A: Yeah. But he was still great. I mean, he did a lot of really cool. [00:26:47] Speaker B: Mm hmm. Well, and so does he. I mean. I mean, listen to the bass line here. It's great. [00:26:52] Speaker A: Yeah. It's like Kings of Leon, right? I mean, the bass was more dominant than the guitar because the guitar wasn't always playing just straight up riffs. It's kind of doing these fills and going from channel to channel. [00:27:05] Speaker B: And they 100% have a YouTube thing from them. [00:27:09] Speaker A: Yeah, there's definitely some influence there, I would say. Whether or not they would say it, I don't know, but I would say I'll definitely hear some of it. [00:27:16] Speaker B: All right, so the first verse is, I want to run I want to hide I want to tear down the walls that hold me inside I want to reach out and touch the flame where the streets have no name it's just like if you grew up in the time we grew up. There's no way you don't know this song. And again, I heard it all the time and again, I wasn't gigantic fan of theirs in the eighties, but, you know, nowadays, it's just like, how do you not like this? How did I not like this? It's silly and silly. And his vocals are great. I don't know if. I don't know if they still play in the same key these days. He still can sing, but. But I'm sure they lowered it down, because I remember there's some high shit on here that I don't know if he'd be able to sing anymore. [00:28:03] Speaker A: So I think the. The one before this, which is the unforgettable fire, I think that's really where he became the voice that people know, like, pride is on there. Right? And he obviously is high into that. So before you could tell he was younger, there was some cracking going on. But I think that's the one that really solidified his voice, even though, I mean, obviously does some cool things on the first three records, but he sounds like this kid trying to do it, as opposed to, like, when. Once he gets there, it's like, boom. [00:28:39] Speaker B: Yeah, no, he's a great. He's a great vocalist. All right, let's continue. We go. [00:28:47] Speaker C: Sunlight on my face I see the dust I wanna take shout out the poison rain where is he? Streets have no name where the streets have no name where the streets have no name we're still building and burning down burning down and when I go there I go there with you it's all I can do. [00:29:46] Speaker B: Um, yeah, as far as guitar stuff goes, it's not super complicated, but it's just perfect for what they're doing. I'd like to let off. I know there's a couple of things going on, some chicka chicka chicka things going on. Then he's got some stuff that's behind there that's really cool stuff that he does. It's not as easy to play as it sounds. I remember playing this song sign as easy as it sounds, but if you're one guitar player, you got to figure out where the hell you're picking to do. So I generally took the. The big pieces that you're gonna hear, and I think that he does the same thing if you watch him live. Like, I think during the verses, he does the chucky chuck is a lot, and then, like, fills in some of the things, but it makes. It. Makes it not as easy to play as, you know, you would think. Oh, he's just putting delay on it. It's just that easy to do. Yeah, it's not that easy, dude, to play it right and in time and make it sound like that. It's not as easy as it sounds. [00:30:39] Speaker A: I saw them on this tour, actually. [00:30:42] Speaker B: Did you? [00:30:43] Speaker A: Yeah, they were. Honestly, I mean, I've seen them three times live the last one's on the pop tour, which, I mean, they still sound, like, great, but, you know, it was. It was okay. But I think they're better live than they are on the record. They're even better, I should say so. [00:31:02] Speaker B: I mean. I mean, this is pretty good. So. [00:31:04] Speaker A: Yeah. And there was nothing on the stage. You know, I think he had, like, a little ramp that he ran around on. But I'm talking about. You want to talk about simple? Simple. They may have had, like, a picture, a big picture of, like, the Joshua Park, Joshua Tree park behind them. And that was all about. Well, then I saw them on the zoo tv tour. But you know what, though? They still sounded awesome. [00:31:32] Speaker B: So I'm sure. Yeah, this is a great song. I like the melody. I like. I like his voice. I like old instrumentation. This. It's not. I don't know how you can not like this song, but. So verse two is, I want to feel some light in my face I see the dust cloud disappear without a trace I want to take shelter from the poison rain where the streets have no name where the streets have no name where the streets have no name we're still building then. Burning down love burning down love and when I go there I go there with you it's all I can do yeah, he's a great. He's a great lyricist, too. I assume he writes all the lyrics. That's my assumption, right? [00:32:14] Speaker A: As far as I know, TG words. Von oh, music YouTube. [00:32:18] Speaker B: Hmm. Yeah. No, this is a great song. All right, let's continue. [00:32:38] Speaker C: A place high on a desert place where the streets have no name. [00:32:52] Speaker A: Where. [00:32:52] Speaker C: The streets have no name where the streets have no name we're still building them burning down love burning down love and when I go there I go there with you all I can do I love to see what be there still love see I love to rest I won't be in the blood of the wind I go there with you it's all I can do. [00:34:38] Speaker B: There we go. Yeah. That's great. Yeah, I like the entry. I like the exiting. Going back to that same roof with the delay on it. It's great. All ties it all together and it sounds really awesome. I mean. I mean, you're not gonna be getting much soloing here, right? This is not. It's not his thing. He did a little more than later on. Later on. A little bit more. A little bit. [00:35:05] Speaker A: Well, there's one famous solo on this record which could be the only one who does from my memory. [00:35:11] Speaker B: Okay. I'm sure I do. So the third verse. The city's a flood and our love turns to rust we're beaten and blown by the wind trampled in dust I'll show you a place high on a desert plain where the streets have no name back to the chorus. And then the outro is our love turns to rust we're beaten and blown by the wind blown by the wind when I see love I see our love turn to rust and we're beaten and blown by the wind blown by the wind and when I go there, go there with you it's all I can do. That's great. I guess I'm gonna have to have you go first. I'm pretty positive I'm gonna know what happened. [00:35:50] Speaker A: This is gonna be a tough. This is gonna be a tough record, man, because it's like, do you want to be conservatives? But I want to know. I'm going to base this on my. On my emotions. And, I mean, even here again, now I'm going to say an eight on the lyrics. I got to say a ten on the music. I mean, I just. I love this song. I've always loved this song. I wouldn't change a thing about it other than making the drums a little bit louder. But, hey, that's every song that's true. And, I mean, production, I think, is perfect. I mean, I'll say nine on production because there's some production on this record that kind of hits that ten point, and it's. I think it's going to come when one of the songs that we've done our whole career, so. But, yeah, I mean, it's a perfect intro track. I love it. Even now I'm singing along to it, and I've heard this song hundreds of times. [00:36:50] Speaker B: Yeah, it's one of those songs I don't get tired of hearing. [00:36:53] Speaker A: Yeah. So I don't really get tired of. [00:36:54] Speaker B: Hearing it either, even though it was hounded in my head forever. A lot of time, so. So for me, I think I'm gonna do nines across the board. I don't know if I can do tens, but, I mean, it's a great song. I mean, nines across the board for me is. [00:37:17] Speaker A: Yeah, that's. [00:37:19] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean, and, and there's still more stuff here. I mean, really nine two. [00:37:26] Speaker A: But I'm like, fuck it. [00:37:30] Speaker B: Yeah, we've played. We've. I think we played the first. We've played the first four songs on the side. We. At one point or another? [00:37:38] Speaker A: Well, no, no, I don't think we did the next one. [00:37:41] Speaker B: Are you sure? [00:37:42] Speaker A: I don't think we ever did the next. [00:37:43] Speaker B: Yeah, well, then I played it some. I played it some other way. [00:37:46] Speaker A: You may have. Yeah. Yeah, you may have. [00:37:48] Speaker B: I must have, because I remember. I remember this a lot. Alright, so the next song is. Why don't you tell me what the next song is? [00:37:59] Speaker A: So the next song is. I still haven't found what I'm looking for, which, believe it or not, is my least favorite song in this album. [00:38:08] Speaker B: Really? [00:38:09] Speaker A: Yep. [00:38:10] Speaker B: That's funny. Yeah, and it's still giving it a high mark even though it's the least favorite song. [00:38:14] Speaker A: I mean, I still like it. You know what I mean? But I mean, obviously, no matter how much you love a band, there's gonna be that one song. Right? [00:38:23] Speaker B: And what don't you like about this? I'm just curious. [00:38:26] Speaker A: I don't. Listen, I don't hate it. It's not gonna get low scores from me, I can tell you that. But I'm saying, if I had to pick a song, believe it or not, this would be. This would be the one, oddly enough. [00:38:42] Speaker B: So. So from. I mean, I didn't know this about this. So it's written in the style of King David, specifically from the poems recorded in the book of psalms in the Old Testament. I didn't know that. [00:38:55] Speaker A: So they were. They had a lot of religious overtones in the music. I mean, some of them blatantly religious and they did that more for other people than themselves. So it wasn't fake. You know what I mean? It wasn't that, but I think they felt like they had to do it more because of, you know, how they grew up and where they were. [00:39:25] Speaker B: Catholic thing. [00:39:26] Speaker A: Yeah. Well, I mean, Edge and Adam are from England originally and, you know, Bono and Larry are the born and bred Irish. [00:39:36] Speaker B: Oh, I didn't know that. I thought they were all from Ireland. [00:39:39] Speaker A: Not born, but obviously they all met. [00:39:44] Speaker B: Yeah. Okay. [00:39:44] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. I mean, I used to have. I used to know their. Their history like the back of my hand, but unfortunately, age and not having kind of read back on it, I forgotten some of this stuff. [00:39:55] Speaker B: Mm hmm. [00:39:56] Speaker A: But, yeah, I mean, there's, like I said, there's some massively religious songs and look at some of their other stuff. It's more about struggle, I think. So. Which I think this song is as well too, though. I mean, when you think about it. [00:40:17] Speaker B: Mm hmm. [00:40:18] Speaker A: I mean, it's very religious. But he still says, I mean, the base of the songs I still haven't found, you know, I've done all these things, but I still haven't found what I'm looking for. You can't get more. [00:40:28] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:40:30] Speaker A: More explicit than that. [00:40:32] Speaker B: All right, let's do this. Here we go. Now, see, to me, just because, like, I just heard that now, and I didn't. I haven't heard any headphones in a long time. There's three guitar parts. There's. There's the more acoustic y thing. There's the delay thing that's pinging back and forth. Then there's a. A rhythm, like, dirtier guitar that just came out of nowhere. I didn't. [00:41:24] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:41:24] Speaker B: I don't know if I knew, like, all those parts were there, because I think I knew. [00:41:30] Speaker A: But again, when you hear things in headphones, it's great to pick up all the little intricacies that are going on, and then, I mean, the baseline is cool, too. It's like, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. [00:41:43] Speaker B: Yeah. He's very good at layering his stuff, so it just kind of sits in the right place. [00:41:48] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:41:48] Speaker B: And obviously, the production people doing production here are very, very good as well, so it doesn't hurt. [00:41:55] Speaker A: I always said that if we record an album, what are the two of them to do it? [00:41:59] Speaker B: Yeah. I mean. I mean, they made them sound great. [00:42:02] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:42:03] Speaker B: All right, let's continue. [00:42:13] Speaker C: Feel with you always be with you I am wrong I am grown I am scared these city walls these city walls. [00:43:03] Speaker B: So there's not a lot of hi hide in there, is there? And you would regularly, I think one drummer would. Any other drummer would have played hi hat in there. Yeah, he hasn't play any hi hat, which I think makes it sound a certain way. [00:43:20] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:43:23] Speaker B: So I appreciate that. And. And the vocals are pretty high. [00:43:30] Speaker A: Yeah. I mean, vocally, this is definitely. This is a big performance from him. So, I mean, again, this. And I'm still, you know, nodding my head and singing out loud and waving. [00:43:42] Speaker B: My arms, of course. I mean. I mean, it's a great song, man. There's nothing. Again, if you're a fan of rock music, I don't know how you don't like this. Although I know that people don't like you, too, so. But. And again, I get you guys. I get you. When I was a teenager in this game out, I didn't really like this that much. But, you know, after all the years later, you have to, like, give them credit. Like, this is a great song, and they're a really good band. It's just, you know, the time that they were out, like, they were in the middle, like, the hair metal stuff, so 87. Yeah. That was the height of metal. [00:44:19] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:44:20] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. Okay, so the verse is, I've climbed highest mountain I've run through the fields only to be with you only to be with you I run I have crawled I have scaled these city walls these city walls only to be with you but I still haven't found what I'm looking for but I still haven't found what I'm looking for and the course is so simple, but it's so memorable. It's just the melody is very good. [00:44:45] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:44:46] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:44:48] Speaker A: There's a great version of this unraveling home. You do. I think it's in Harlem with the big choir and. [00:44:53] Speaker B: Yeah, I think I remember that. [00:44:55] Speaker A: Yeah. That's a really good version of this song. [00:44:58] Speaker B: And this is. This is a good version of this. So I know this is not your favorite on here, but I. I mean. [00:45:04] Speaker A: Listen, this not being my favorite on this is, uh, still. [00:45:09] Speaker B: Yeah. Oh, wait, of course. Yeah. What if you have to pick something? Right? Yeah. All right, let's continue. Here we go. [00:45:23] Speaker C: Bring up fire this morning I know, I know the devil was one in the night I was caught in the snow but still. [00:46:13] Speaker B: And I have to say that, you know, he plays so well, the edge with his delay, like, he's playing to the delay, and that's, you know, not an easy thing to do. It sounds like he's doing. He's doing less than he actually sounds like he's doing, just because the delay is doing a lot of work. But you got to be good enough to play with that to make that sound the way this sounds. [00:46:34] Speaker A: Yeah. Because I've tried. I've tried writing rips with delay, kind of like the way he has it, and if you don't time it right, it sounds like nothing. Sounds like shit. It just gets lost. You don't have that effect. [00:46:48] Speaker B: And there's. And there's a. One of the lines I really like. I'll tell you what it is coming up. I've kissed honey lips felt the healing fingertips it burned like fire this burning desire now, these two lines I like a lot. I spoke with the tongue of angels and I've held the hand of the devil that's a great line. Great two lines. It was warm in the night it was cold as a stone and then back to the chorus again. And even, like, the riff in the chorus, it's just because the way he's playing with the delay just. It's great. I mean, I don't think you could write a riff like this. And now someone would go, that sounds like the edge something. You too. Yeah, you gotta be. You got to be kind of careful with that because, you know, you're like, oh, this sounds great. Oh, yeah, I know why it sounds great. Because it's you, too. That's why. [00:47:34] Speaker A: Yeah, no, he. I mean, he owns. [00:47:38] Speaker B: Oh, he hundred percent owns it. As much as. As much as, like, Eddie Van Halen owns the tapping thing. He owns this delay thing. To me, anyway. [00:47:48] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:47:48] Speaker B: I'm not trying to, like, compare the two guitar players, because I don't think that's a fair comparison, but, no, he's just. He's just very good with making, like you said, ambient, like, soundscape stuff. [00:48:04] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:48:04] Speaker B: And then there's other people, like, you know, took that to another level. Like we said, the Kings. Leon has a little bit of that in there. I mean, I don't know if it's super totally, like, blatantly stolen. No, but there's a hint of it. Yeah. [00:48:18] Speaker A: Yeah, I definitely think. I mean, obviously. Which is, you know, it's. It's enough to kind of say, hey, obviously these guys are an influence, but not a blatant. [00:48:30] Speaker B: Yeah. Okay, let's continue. Here we go. [00:48:57] Speaker C: I believe in the king of God yes, I'm still running, still broken. [00:49:35] Speaker B: So there's the big super duper, like, religious thing right there. So I believe. [00:49:43] Speaker A: Well, I was just gonna say this. I mean, the first two lines on my high school yearbook, you know, you're allowed to put quotes, and I actually have that as a quote, the first two. [00:49:52] Speaker B: Oh, really? So I believe in the kingdom come and all. And then all the colors will bleed into one bleed into one but yes, I'm still running. You broke the bonds and you loosened the chains carried the cross of my shame of my shame you know I believe it. Yeah. I mean, still good lyrics, man. It's just. Yeah, it makes you think. And, you know, it's. It's in such a. Like a. I don't know if everyone really thinks about the lyrics on this song when they. When they listen to it. Probably not. And had a pretty cool little interlude thing that was there, you know, wasn't so, like, right in your face. There was more the acoustic thing in there. I thought I heard a little bit of the, like, ebo. You ever seen that little Ebol thing they use? We puts it on the strings and it makes it vibrate all over. He uses that in the next song a lot. And next one. [00:50:42] Speaker A: I know. I mean, I've seen him use it. There's a recording of them doing the. Not this album that I have, but the one before. And he's using it. [00:50:51] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. It's part of his thing, too, so. All right, let's finish it out. Here we go. [00:51:06] Speaker C: But I love. [00:52:08] Speaker B: I didn't realize all, like, the stuff that was in there. There was so much stuff in there I didn't realize. [00:52:16] Speaker A: Yeah, there's a lot going on in the vocals. [00:52:20] Speaker B: Well, not even just that. There was. There was what you would call it, the slide going on there. [00:52:30] Speaker A: Mm hmm. [00:52:33] Speaker B: Yeah. I didn't even realize that. And then I heard a little bit more that ebo thing and then. Because. And then there's some. There's some vocal going back behind there, too. [00:52:42] Speaker A: Yep. [00:52:43] Speaker B: That I didn't realize was there. So there's lots of cool stuff. [00:52:48] Speaker A: I mean, most of the vocals are pretty much like Bono and edge. Edge provides. [00:52:53] Speaker B: Mm hmm. [00:52:54] Speaker A: A lot of the way he backs Bono's voice, I think, is. Is really. Is really good. They compliment each other well. [00:53:04] Speaker B: Yeah, no, it's really good. So what am I gonna do here? I don't know. This is hard. It was very hard. Cuz I like this song just as much as I like the other one. I'm gonna. I'm gonna stay with my nines. I mean, it just. It is what it is. It's a great song. I don't. I didn't know about the, like, you know, Christian undertone thing. I didn't really realize that. Now we read the lyrics, like, oh, yeah. And the. And the course is so simple. It's two lines. Like, it's one line that's repeated, but it's just so. The melody is just so good, and the music behind is so good. And you almost forget about the drumming because it just. It's not really in your face that much. [00:53:47] Speaker A: No. [00:53:49] Speaker B: I mean, I would be a miss remiss if I didn't say anything about the drums and the bass, which are great, but the other stuff just seems to be more in your face a little bit more. And that stuff such in the background that you almost take for granted that it's there. [00:54:02] Speaker A: Exactly. [00:54:10] Speaker B: No, yeah, no, I mean, I'm sure I didn't really listen all the time. All right, go ahead. What do you. I know this is not your favorite, but what do you think about this one? [00:54:16] Speaker A: I mean, listen, I still really like this song. I actually was gonna say, it's funny because I heard it recently. I'm like, you know what? I was. Not that I didn't like it, but it's like, all right, I'm gonna say, you know, I'm gonna say nine on the lyrics. There are some really good lines in here. I'm gonna say nine in production again. And you know what? In the moment, I'm gonna do this in the moment. I mean, I was singing along, and I was like, you know what? I really like this now. And I don't know why whatever before, but I'll say nine, so go triple nines on this. [00:55:00] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean. I mean, yeah, I mean, you know what it is, too. It's probably because it was. So this song for you is probably, like, me listening to a kiss song. Like, I don't need to hear Detroit rock City again in my life because I heard it right. [00:55:14] Speaker A: You're gonna rate it high? [00:55:15] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, I'm gonna. I'm gonna rate it well, but, yeah, I understand, though. But it was. And it was in your face on radio all the time. You couldn't get away from it. So. So then you tend to take songs that are, like, not the popular ones and make those your favorite because. Because, yeah, well, I don't want it to be the one that everyone's listening to because there's so much better stuff on here than this. But I'm a fan. [00:55:41] Speaker A: I like this, you know, third song on the second side. Not the first one. [00:55:47] Speaker B: Not the singles. I don't like the singles at all. [00:55:48] Speaker A: Yeah. You got to be tough as a fan of a band, you know? [00:55:53] Speaker B: Well, the next song is a song we've played ever since it was new, probably just like we played. Just like we played the Bon Jovi song ever since it was new. What you call it, which we wanted. Which would be on the record that we were going to do. [00:56:11] Speaker A: Exactly. Yeah. We'll talk about it when we get to it. Get back. [00:56:14] Speaker B: Yeah, but we've played. We've been playing this song since it's new. [00:56:18] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:56:21] Speaker B: And this is probably one of my favorites. This is probably one of my favorite songs. [00:56:25] Speaker A: Yeah, it's a great song. [00:56:28] Speaker B: And the bass. And the drums make the song. [00:56:31] Speaker A: Yeah. And, I mean, whatever little pieces that he adds to it on the guitar, it's just a really, really. Well word. And I mean, the bass line. Listen, you've heard that bass line a million times, whether you realize it or not, because I'm always like, hey, wait a second. I know that bass line. I know that bass line. [00:56:50] Speaker B: Mm hmm. Yeah. [00:56:52] Speaker A: But it's. [00:56:53] Speaker B: It's very. [00:56:54] Speaker A: Make a great song around that. I think that's. That's the genius of it. [00:56:59] Speaker B: 100%. Yeah. I mean, this is. This is gonna rank it just as high as the other ones. If maybe there's gonna be a little. I. Again, I don't know if I can do tens, but there's gonna be nines on this, too. I just. I just can't. I can't see this not being. Yeah. On the top of my list. All right, here we go. So this is with or without you. [00:57:46] Speaker C: See the stone set in your eyes see the thorn twist in your side I wait for you slight of hand and twist of fate on a bed of me she makes me wait and I wait without you. [00:58:29] Speaker B: So there's where the ebo is and which. I never had an ebo, so I never played it with an eebo. I would just kind of, like, play the notes and try to add some delay so it would, like, go on a little bit longer. [00:58:41] Speaker A: But I think we did a really good version of the song. Yeah, no, that I would get compliments from people like, oh, you guys do really good. You do it really well. [00:58:51] Speaker B: We should. We played this friggin song. [00:58:53] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:58:54] Speaker B: And I came in how many times? I played this song, and not just with you guys, like, when I was playing with other people, too. I played this fucking song. [00:59:01] Speaker A: I mean, it's. It just goes over well every time. [00:59:05] Speaker B: Yeah. So did I get to the second verse? No, I didn't get the second verse yet, right? [00:59:09] Speaker A: No. You haven't started the version? [00:59:13] Speaker B: No. [00:59:13] Speaker A: Wait, you mean playing it? Yeah, you did? [00:59:16] Speaker B: I did the second verse. So. So I got. [00:59:19] Speaker A: Yeah, well, I guess. Yeah, that little. [00:59:21] Speaker B: I was just paying attention to the other stuff. I wasn't even paying attention to the lyrics. I was like, I'm not sure I'm at. Anyway, so see the stones that. See the stone the stone set in your eyes and see the thorn twist in your side I'll wait for you sleight of hand and twist of fate on a bed of nails she makes me wait and I'll wait without you with or without you with or without you and. And the baseline kind of goes through most of the songs. The same exact thing. Right. I'm not. It doesn't change very much, but that they could weave a song around this one little. One little rhythm thing. [00:59:57] Speaker A: Exactly. There's little touches that builds. Yeah, that's the thing. There's little touches that build, and then obviously it, you know, has a big crescendo and then it. Quiet sound, and then it has, like, a. Another crescendo. [01:00:13] Speaker B: Yeah, no, it's a great song. All right, let's continue. Here we go. [01:00:23] Speaker C: I want more and I'm waiting for you with or without you with or without you I I can live without you. [01:01:18] Speaker B: That is such a good riff. Is so easy to play. It's so simple, but it's so good. Yeah, it's so simple. It's good. [01:01:27] Speaker A: Yeah, but that's what I'm saying, though, too, right? Again, it's a simple thing, but if you're not paying attention to, you don't notice that everything, it keeps building and building and building. Right? There's things that aren't there, and they're all suddenly there. Like the tambourine. Right. All of a sudden he's playing. Then once the drums kick in, right. It gets louder, and then it goes into the crescendo. So it's just. I think that's the genius of this simple song. [01:01:53] Speaker B: Yes. So the second verse is sleight of hand and twist of fate on a bed on nails she makes me wait and I'll wait without you with or without you with or without you so what is this song about? [01:02:08] Speaker A: So, supposedly it's a love song, right? Yeah, but they say it's kind of like the troubled love song, obviously inspired by Bono's conflicting feelings about the lives he led as a musician and domestic band, which, I mean, taken in that context, it makes sense, right? Because every line is kind of, you know, it's like through the storm we reach for sure. So that's positive. But then you give it all. But I want more. You know what I mean? There's always kind of a. It's like a give and take. [01:02:38] Speaker B: Did I get up to that part already? Like, I'm so, like, lost in the song. I don't even know where I'm at. I think you did okay if I did. If I didn't, I'll read it. I'll read it anyway. And then if I. If it came up, it's fine. So through the storm, we reach the shore. You give it all, but I want more and I'm waiting for you then with or without you. With or without you. Yeah, you're right. They just. They keep adding little layers as it goes along. [01:03:02] Speaker A: Mm hmm. [01:03:04] Speaker B: So even though, like, the bass and, like, drums are kind of, like, staying the same, there's this one little. This is one little drum fill that I always, like, I'll try to point it out when it comes back. I think it comes in more than once, and so it's just. It doesn't change that much, but it just makes the song, for me so. [01:03:20] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:03:21] Speaker B: All right, let's go. [01:03:28] Speaker C: She got me with nothing win and nothing left to lose and you give yourself away and you give yourself away and you give and you give and you give yourself way with always out you without you I can live without you. [01:04:34] Speaker B: So there's the big crescendo, and it's. It's good. I mean, it just builds all the way up to there. [01:04:40] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:04:41] Speaker B: And vocals are really awesome. I mean, everything's really good in the song. I mean, drums are good. Bass is good. Guitars are good. Background vocals are good. Everything's good. So the verse four is. My hands are tied my body bruised she got me with nothing to win and nothing left to lose and then I guess I didn't say the refrain before. The refrain is. And you give yourself away and you give yourself away and you give and you give and you give yourself away and then the oh is in the. In that. They call that a bridge, but I don't think if it's a bridge or not. [01:05:17] Speaker A: But, yeah, it's cool. Like I said, I remember hearing the song the first time. I was like, wow, it's a really good song. [01:05:24] Speaker B: That's a really good song. Yeah. I mean, it's just. It's just weird to me that people, like, have a big hatred for this group. I don't know why. [01:05:31] Speaker A: Well, you know what I mean? Obviously, they're. They're very vocal politically and this. And so. And there's always a sigma. Well, you know, they still make money. They do this, they do that. [01:05:45] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:05:47] Speaker A: I'm talking about the music here. Right. Whether you agree with someone politically or. [01:05:53] Speaker B: Yeah, but the song is great. I mean, there's just no way you can. Again, I kind of almost understand because I wasn't a huge fan of them when they. When it was out, but, I mean, we still played their songs, and we were playing this when someone was new. This. I'd like the songs that I played. I actually think the next song is probably my favorite song. Yeah. And we definitely did that a bunch of times, too, so. All right, let's continue it. Here we go. [01:06:32] Speaker C: You without. [01:07:46] Speaker B: Yeah. And then that little. Then. Yeah, that guitar part. So simple, but it's so great. And then the other riff comes back on top of it. [01:07:59] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. [01:08:01] Speaker B: I don't know how the bass drops out. [01:08:02] Speaker A: Kind of, like, simple, and then it kind of. Then it goes back into the thing, and then the other tambourine at the end. [01:08:09] Speaker B: I mean, and there's. There's a bass synthesizer in here that I didn't know about either. Playing. Going under the bass guitar. I did not know that. Yeah, I think it's. It's awesome. I want you to see if there's any other, um. No. Vocals. Guitar. Bass. Guitar. Drums. Okay. Yeah, it's awesome. I guess you got to go now. It's your train. Go do it. [01:08:38] Speaker A: This is hard, man. I'm gonna say a nine on the lyrics. I mean, I've always really liked these lyrics. I think I gotta say fucking ten on the music and intent on the production. I mean, I just. You know, I've heard this song a billion times, right? And there may even be a time where it comes on the radio and I skip it. Maybe. Maybe not. Just like, all right, not today. But I mean, just hearing it now and just really paying. Even knowing what's going on and hearing it through headphones. I don't know that I've ever listened to this song through. Well, let me not say that. But, you know, really, really kind of, like, without just singing along or whatever, but, yeah, I mean, it's a fucking great song. What do you think? [01:09:25] Speaker B: Yeah. Now I'm gonna throw my double die, my triple nines across again. Because I don't think there's anything wrong with this song. I don't. I don't know if I've ever given songs a ten, maybe. [01:09:41] Speaker A: Well, you knew when these guys were coming up. I. [01:09:45] Speaker B: Knew. You know, that's fine. I don't. I may have thrown some tens in Hendricks stuff, maybe, but, I mean, you can't deny the lyrics are great, the music is great, and the production is great. [01:09:57] Speaker A: I think we threw some sense on Sabbath, maybe. [01:10:00] Speaker B: Yeah. Maybe Sabbath, too. [01:10:02] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:10:04] Speaker B: There may or may not be tens coming on the next song. It's very possible, because it is probably my favorite song on this record. I just like to. I'd like to. Opening drum thing. I just. I just. I think it's. I just think it's great. All right, so. And that will be bullet the bulls. Bullet to blue sky. Here we go. You know what? I never noticed, but I noticed it right now. There's a little Hendricksy thing going on there. Feedback. Some weird, like, guitar, like, tremolo string, flappy sound stuff. I never really. Never really, like, put those two things together till right now. [01:11:08] Speaker A: Yeah. I mean, for them, this is a pretty heavy song. [01:11:12] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:11:13] Speaker A: The way it's sung, the way it's produced. I mean, the drums are really up front and. And again, that riff. Simple. But if you don't do it right, it doesn't sound right. [01:11:26] Speaker B: Oh, the bass riff. Yeah, 100%. [01:11:28] Speaker A: No, though, the drums. The drums. [01:11:31] Speaker B: Oh, the drum riff. Okay. Yeah, that too. [01:11:33] Speaker A: Because, you know, he plays around with the hi hat in it. Because, I mean, you know, like you said, we've done this song and I'm hearing it and I was lit. I remember listening to it. I was playing it, but simpler. I'm like, that's not what he does. So I was like, I gotta do this. [01:11:50] Speaker B: So this is. [01:11:51] Speaker A: Remember, this drumbeat sounds like a Van Halen song. [01:11:57] Speaker B: Uh huh. [01:11:59] Speaker A: Uh huh. And I know because we did the Van Halen song, is it little guitars? [01:12:06] Speaker B: Yes. [01:12:11] Speaker A: It has a little thing, but then he goes into the thing. But his is played differently. It's not as the hi hat isn't close that they could just open. But he does play that to bum bum. But it's different. But it's kind of, you know. [01:12:26] Speaker B: You know, I never even thought of that. But, yes, this was true. So, supposedly, it's their most played live song with almost 650 live appearances. And this was never even released as a single, but it still reached number 14. [01:12:41] Speaker A: Yeah, I know. It's funny because, I mean, this is a. This is a popular song. A lot of people know this song. And, I mean, the solo is longer when he does it live. [01:12:52] Speaker B: Yeah. And this is a very political song about Central America in the eighties, places getting firebombed. He was there, I guess, then. So this is a big political song for them. Which is. Which is not. I mean, it's not a strange thing. They did that earlier on. Too. [01:13:16] Speaker A: Political. Absolutely. [01:13:19] Speaker B: All right, let's continue. [01:13:46] Speaker C: In the howling wind comes a stinging rain she travels the souls on the chill face from the firefly the red orange color see the place of fear running, scaling. [01:14:29] Speaker B: Yeah, that's just too good. [01:14:33] Speaker A: And again, the verse is just bass and drums. [01:14:36] Speaker B: Right. [01:14:37] Speaker A: And they're the ones that are holding it down. And I think some people, they probably don't think about those things if you're not paying attention to it. [01:14:46] Speaker B: But that's it. [01:14:47] Speaker A: There's nothing, really, until he comes, kind of like with the volume when, you know, when he goes into the chorus, it's just heavy bass and drums. And, I mean, it's recorded really well. [01:15:00] Speaker B: Oh, no, it's great. It's super duper. I mean, I like the little style. I like the slide part, the. It's great. Yeah. I have nothing bad to say about this at all. Um, I just. You sit there and listen to that, you're like, wow, that's just a great fucking song. And again, simple. Simple. Like, like with the worth that you. Simple with. With the. With the bass and the drums, but just so good. So the first verses. In the howling wind comes a stinging rain. See it driven nails into the souls of the trees of pain? On the tree of pain from the firefly a red orange glow. See the face of fear running scared in the valley below and then they're doing like, bullet the blue. Like that little background part. [01:15:51] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:15:51] Speaker B: And then bullet the blue sky. Bullet the blue sky. Bullet the blue bullet to blue. [01:15:56] Speaker A: And then you hear the sky. That's. [01:15:58] Speaker B: That's the sky stuff in the back. Yeah. That's pretty cool. [01:16:00] Speaker A: Yeah. That's the editing. [01:16:04] Speaker B: No, this is. This is awesome. I haven't listened to such a long time. I forgot how good the song is. [01:16:08] Speaker A: I forgot how heavy verse is. Like the basic dramas. [01:16:11] Speaker B: Super heavy. [01:16:12] Speaker A: But it's like. Yeah, it's dirtier than I remembered. [01:16:15] Speaker B: Mm hmm. Yeah, it's really cool. All right, let's continue. [01:16:35] Speaker C: You can't demonstrate. See them burning across there? See the flames higher and higher. [01:17:21] Speaker B: Red. [01:17:22] Speaker C: Like a rose in a bombers all the colors of a royal flesh and it's peeling off. Boost all our bills, slapping them down, 100, 200. And I can see those fighter planes and I can see those fighter planes across the mud hurts children sleep through the hours of quiet city street? We take the staircase to the first floor, turn the key and slowly unlock the door? The man breathes into a saxophone and through the walls we hear the city growing outside it's America? Outside it's America. [01:18:08] Speaker B: All right, before we get to the next part, it was a little bit of a led zeppelin thingy going there. I didn't. I totally forgot about that, too. [01:18:16] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:18:17] Speaker B: And the vocal part sound like a. [01:18:19] Speaker A: Little Jim Morrison, too, in the way he. [01:18:23] Speaker B: Oh, and then two things. Yeah, 100%. So let me read some of this stuff, then we'll talk about that. So the second verse is, in the locust wind comes a rattling hum. Jacob wrestled the angel, and angel was overcome. You plant a demon seed, you raise a flower of fire. We see them burning crosses, see the flames higher and higher, and then both the blue sky, all that. So in the next thing, even though they're verses, like, he reads them, which changes the. Changes the melody. A little bit of him. [01:18:54] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:18:56] Speaker B: So this guy comes up to me, his face red like a rose on a thorn bush, like all the colors of a royal flush, and he's peeling off those dollar bills, slapping him down, 100, 200. And I. And I can see those fighter planes and I can see those fighter planes across the mud huts as children sleep through the valleys of a quiet city street and take the staircase to the first floor turn the key and slowly unlock the door as a man breathes into his saxophone and through the walls you can hear the city groan outside its America outside its America America and while he's reading that, there's, like, all the slide stuff going on. There's the feedback. It's pretty cool. I always like playing the song just because of all that stuff. It's really fun to play. [01:19:41] Speaker A: That's a lot to do. [01:19:43] Speaker B: Yeah, no, I like it a lot. So now. [01:19:46] Speaker A: And the solo is pretty famous. [01:19:47] Speaker B: Yeah, that's what we're gonna do next. So here we go. [01:20:46] Speaker C: See, the sky rips open. See the rain compelling the women and children into the arms of America. [01:21:03] Speaker B: Yeah, so that's. That's very. Those spoken parts are very Jamora sent to me. You're right. Yeah, I like, the solo's cool, even though, you know. Is he like Dwayne Allman? No, but it's so simple. It's so simple and perfect for the song. And. Yeah, it doesn't have to be. It doesn't have to be one that he was not trying to impress anybody. And again, maybe he didn't have the skill at that point to kind of do stuff that maybe he might want to have done, but he. So he kept it simple and he made it. And it's great. [01:21:41] Speaker A: I mean, listen, can I picture some shredding going on in that part? Absolutely. I can definitely. You know what I mean? Like, if someone else. Whatever. But listen, he's not. He's not really a solo player. I mean, I can. I think of this one. I think of the one in New Year's Day, which, again, is very simple. It's made for the song. I mean, it's loud. And if you hear the stuff that's going in the background that, like, it's loud. You know what I mean? And it's funny because there's a thing of them doing. I think it was when they made Octagon baby. I think it's that documentary. And I think it's Larry speaking. He's like, yeah, you know, so then edge starts playing. He's always so fucking loud. Always so fucking loud. You may not think that, but. [01:22:30] Speaker B: No, I remember seeing the thing they showed. Like, this had to be like ten or twelve years ago. They showed his pedal board. Like, all the things that he uses is ridiculous. Like a. It was like fucking NASA. And he plays really fucking loud. Yeah, loud. So, this might surprise you, but I am gonna do tens across the board here. [01:22:54] Speaker A: Nice. [01:22:55] Speaker B: Yeah. This is. This is my favorite YouTube song. I think it's always been my favorite song. Anytime we got to play this, it was always. It was one of the songs I'd love to play, like I love with or without you, but I like this more. [01:23:07] Speaker A: Well, this has been rock. I mean, just straight up rock aspect. [01:23:10] Speaker B: Yeah, I like it a lot. It's just between the lyrics and all the music and the vocals and. And the production's great. It's just. I don't know how. It's just. It's just great. I can't say enough good things about this. What do you think? [01:23:29] Speaker A: I mean, again, this shit's hard. Um, I mean, the lyrics are really good. Well, have I given it? I'm giving it. I'm gonna say nine on lyrics, nine on music, and a ten on the production. So. 9910. I'm gonna let you have the spotlight in this one because, well, I rated the other one. [01:23:53] Speaker B: I'm giving you a higher. A higher thing on a YouTube song than you are. [01:23:56] Speaker A: Yeah, but that's cool, because I want. I want other people. You know what I mean? When you love a band, you want other people to enjoy it as well. That's why I'm always. I've always said, like, you know, I don't know if I want you two to come up, because then it could be some stuff that I love. And then you guys like, what the f. Is this? [01:24:16] Speaker B: Well, this is the right one. [01:24:18] Speaker A: This is. Yeah, but I mean, think about it, too, right? I mean, you know, and there's good differences between the songs as well, so far. You know, like, four songs. I mean, there's definitely some similarities. Maybe the first two a little bit, but, you know, four, four, four. They're definitely running a gamut on the stuff that they're doing. It's not like everything sounds the same just because he's playing certain things and. [01:24:46] Speaker B: No, no, it's a lot different. The first two songs have more in common, guitar wise, than the next. $2, though. This is more the same. Now, the next song, which is ends the side is running to standstill. I don't know if I've ever heard this. I probably have. It's been a long time. [01:25:03] Speaker A: I mean, you may have. It's not. I don't think it was a single or. [01:25:07] Speaker B: Well, running through this. I mean, this is almost a perfect fucking side. [01:25:12] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:25:13] Speaker B: So I don't know if running the stand still is gonna make it perfect. I don't remember it enough. You obviously know it. I don't know it enough. [01:25:19] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean, I really like this song. [01:25:21] Speaker B: I'm sure I'll probably like it, too. It's okay. [01:25:24] Speaker A: This is another one that kind of builds. [01:25:27] Speaker B: Okay, here we go. So running to standstill. [01:25:53] Speaker C: So she woke up woke up from where she was lying still said I gotta do something about where we go step on a steam train step out of the driving rain maybe run from the darkness in. [01:26:27] Speaker B: The night. [01:26:31] Speaker C: Singing high all the light. [01:26:48] Speaker B: Now that was interesting that they had that little sort of bluesy thing at the beginning, which I don't. I would never expect that from him. [01:26:56] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:26:57] Speaker B: And the piano comes in and the other guitar comes in, which is just basically having, like. I think it's still a little delay going on. Just very clean, plucky kind of notes. I like it. It's interesting. I mean. I mean, listen, it's hard after the first four songs, man. I mean, anything that comes after that, I'm hoping that this goes a little. Gets a little crescent crescendo ii, I should say. [01:27:26] Speaker A: I mean, it's. I mean, again, this could be the one where some people, like. I think it's a really good song. [01:27:36] Speaker B: And no drums. [01:27:37] Speaker A: Really good yet. [01:27:40] Speaker B: Well, I'm saying. But not yet, though. There's nothing. Right? [01:27:41] Speaker A: Yeah, no, no. [01:27:44] Speaker B: All right, so verse wises. And so she woke up woke up from where she was laying still said, I got to do something about where we're going. Stepping on this step on a steam train step out of the driving rain maybe run from the darkness in the night singing ah la la la day a la la lady day a la la lady day now, what is this song about? [01:28:08] Speaker A: Couple addicted to heroin. [01:28:11] Speaker B: Okay. [01:28:11] Speaker A: Living in a certain part of Ireland. Yeah, I think it's kind of like irish projects. [01:28:15] Speaker B: Mmm. Yeah, see, they were still, right now in. Still doing that kind of stuff. Right. Still referencing Ireland and stuff. Still. [01:28:25] Speaker A: Yeah. I mean, listen, they're irish at heart. I don't think they would ever. [01:28:29] Speaker B: Later on albums, they still kind of reference that still as much or. No? [01:28:34] Speaker A: Yeah, no, there's some kind of change a little bit with octom baby and, I mean, even rattle and holm, but not all of rattle and home was written at that time. I mean, some of the stuff was kind of laid around a bit, so it was. I think they kind of changed more into relationships and stuff and things like that. I mean, he's been married forever, Bono, so he's been married a long time. [01:29:03] Speaker B: Well, because, I mean, so they're not. Not doing as much political and as much stuff of Ireland as much like once this album is finishes, it's not as much later on. [01:29:14] Speaker A: Yeah, because. Yeah, because, I mean, often maybe is really more about. I mean, think about what's on October, baby. Right? Like one even better than the real thing. Mysterious ways, you know, you think about songs like that. I mean, but then it also has until the end of the world, so. But I think it's more personal, political, you know what I mean? Like that as opposed to. All right, here's what's going on in the world. Because, again, I remember too when that album came out, I was like, oh, they kind of shed that stuff, but they were still doing protests for Greenpeace and thing, you know, they're like, listen, just because we're not singing about it doesn't mean we don't support it. Yeah. [01:29:54] Speaker B: Yeah. Cool. I'm curious to see where this goes. I haven't heard this in a long time. If I have ever. I'm sure I have, but it's been a long time. All right, here we go. [01:30:08] Speaker C: Sweet the sound, bit of a taste. In my mouth. I see seven towers, but I only see one way out. You gotta cry without weeping. Talk without speaking. Scream without raising your voice. You know, I took the poison from the poison stream. Then I float in out of here. [01:31:20] Speaker B: Alright, so before we get to that, let me read some lyrics. Sweet the sin, bit of the taste. In my mouth I see seven towers. But I only see one way out. You gotta cry without weeping. Talk without speaking. Scream without raising your voice. You know, I took the poison from the poison stream and then I floated out of here. So you can see how this is about. That's definitely about drugs. So it's pretty, uh. It's pretty cool. I like it. [01:31:51] Speaker A: Yeah. The seven towers are specifically about a place. Like, it's literally seven towers. [01:31:56] Speaker B: Mmm. [01:31:57] Speaker A: Because even when I heard, I was like, oh, I see seven towers. Like, no, it's actually Bali mun flat. Dublin's towers have since become associated with the song, but. [01:32:09] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:32:09] Speaker A: But now, you drums kicked in, right? [01:32:11] Speaker B: Yep. I was gonna say the drum in. I like, I like the. What he's doing on the drums, too. It's. It's not what you think would happen a lot of times. [01:32:22] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:32:23] Speaker B: No hi hat, right? Is any high hat yet? [01:32:26] Speaker A: No, no, I think he just kind of. But he's pounding them too, though, right? I mean, it's. It's not like a light little. It kind of starts off light. But if you hear it. So cool. [01:32:37] Speaker B: All right, I'm back at it. Just a little bit. Here we go. [01:32:47] Speaker C: Belly of cloud in the rain in through a doorway she brings me white golden pearls stolen from the sea she is raging she is raging and the storm blows up in her eyes she will suffer me don't you she's running to stand still. [01:34:18] Speaker A: Yeah. Such a quiet way, you know what I mean? [01:34:20] Speaker B: Kind of like a long face. [01:34:22] Speaker A: You just went through that big ass song. Right. And now it's kind of like. I mean, as serious as the subject is, right? [01:34:31] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. It's very, very, very calming, even though. So the last verse is she runs through the streets with eyes painted red under a black belly of cloud in the rain in through a doorway she brings me white golden pearl stolen from the sea she is raging and she. And she is raging and that. And when they did raging, raging, it was like a big low tomorrow under raging. I didn't know that. That was weird. And it never came back again, so that's pretty cool. And the storm blows up in her eyes she will suffer the night the needle chill she is running to standstill and a harmonica solo, which I wasn't expecting. [01:35:11] Speaker A: Yeah, it's funny because, I mean, obviously they're really good friends from Bruce Springsteen. And I had, like, one thing. It could have been this long, actually, where he did. He actually did the solo for them at the end. [01:35:26] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. I gotta look to see. [01:35:28] Speaker A: I mean, I think he's. Who's in the middle something a lot like Springsteen, too. [01:35:33] Speaker B: Yeah, I can say. I can hear that. I want to see if it says anything here about this, but I want you. Why don't you do your. Your review? [01:35:47] Speaker A: I mean, I've always really liked the lyrics of the song. I think they're really good. You know what I mean? They paint a picture, and you can get the gist without it knocking it over your head. So I'm gonna say nine on the lyrics. I'm gonna say an eight on the music, and I'll say a nine on the production. I mean, it's. You know, I think the elbows, like, exquisitely produced. [01:36:22] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. I think. I think I'm gonna do the same. 989. It's a weird thing to end on, but I don't know. Where. Where could you go after the four songs ahead of it? Like, there's nowhere to go. I mean. I mean, it's almost a perfect side of a record. Almost a perfect sight. You know, I don't. I don't hate the last song. But if it ended on the four song and on those four, I would be totally fine. It's just. They're just four great songs in a row. How do you. How do you even. How do you even top that? [01:36:55] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:36:57] Speaker B: So it's just gonna be. [01:36:58] Speaker A: I think the second set is good to the second set. It's funny, there's a couple songs, you'll see, where the production kind of changes. [01:37:04] Speaker B: Hmm. [01:37:05] Speaker A: So I don't know if maybe they were recorded in different studios. I mean, it's the same. The same people, but in this song, really specifically, just kind of looking at the, um. At the titles. But, I mean, again, I like. I like every song on this record, personally. So second sides, probably a little bit different. [01:37:28] Speaker B: Yeah. For me, I'm sure I remember exit. For me, it's. The second side is gonna be more of a discovery, I think, or rediscover, because I know I've listened to this album before, but it's been a long, long time. I couldn't exit to. [01:37:41] Speaker A: Pretty heavy for them, you know? [01:37:44] Speaker B: Yeah. Cool. Well, this is. This was a. This was a surprise. [01:37:49] Speaker A: It was big. [01:37:51] Speaker B: This is. I was surprised. I'm glad you didn't get a YouTube album you didn't like. That would sell. It sucked. [01:37:59] Speaker A: Yeah. But you know what? I would have been. I would have been okay with it in terms of. So I have to say that the one that pop is probably the one that I know every song, but I'm not really a big fan of. And then kind of all that you can leave behind was kind of them rebuilding towards, like, their older sound, you know, when you think of, like, beautiful day, you know? But then, to me, how to dismantle an atomic bomb was that bridge that I really liked was like, okay. And then after that is when I fell off a bit, so I'd be okay with getting one of those. So, I mean, again, sometimes you hear it in the moment, right? And they hear it on the headphones and all the stuff you pick up on. [01:38:46] Speaker B: Mm hmm. So was the atomic bomb one the one they put in everyone's I itunes and. Yeah, no one wanted. [01:38:53] Speaker A: That's the one. Vertigo. [01:38:55] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. Well, Vertigo is a great song. We played that song a million times, too. That's a great song, too. [01:39:01] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:39:02] Speaker B: Well, I'm glad we got this. [01:39:04] Speaker A: Me too. I'm glad. [01:39:08] Speaker B: No complaints here, you know. [01:39:10] Speaker A: I'm glad you're liking it. I mean, I know. You know. You know what I mean? But again, like you said, right. Sometimes when the stuff comes out fresh you're not in that mindset, or you just don't. It doesn't click. But sometimes later on, like, oh, shit. I mean, the Foo fighters. I remember, like, those first couple of songs, it's like, oh, I don't really remember liking this, but hearing it now, I kind of like it. [01:39:41] Speaker B: Yeah. I mean, I obviously, all these songs I. All these songs I liked because we played these songs before, so it's not like. It's not like I hated these songs at all. Just. I wasn't a gigantic fan theirs then. But like I said, you know, there's. There's no way that, you know, you can't listen to those, you know, four songs. I mean, if this whole record was just for these four songs, it would be great. Yeah. So, I mean, yeah. [01:40:12] Speaker A: Is a little bit different. You probably know at least one of the songs. I think one that was, uh, was a decent hit. [01:40:21] Speaker B: Okay, cool. [01:40:22] Speaker A: And then. [01:40:22] Speaker B: All right, so, um, I I'm excited for next week. Maybe we'll have one of our other people on next week and they can hit a second side. [01:40:28] Speaker A: So, yeah, I'd like to have a. I mean, maybe have, um, like, other Seaford Nick talk about the bass playing. [01:40:39] Speaker B: Mm hmm. [01:40:39] Speaker A: Because I'm. Well, Nick. I mean, obviously, Nick playing the songs, he's gonna know. But maybe Steve, as. I don't know where they sit with him, I'll be honest with you. But kind of listening to it and saying, yeah, you know what? That's pretty good, even if it's repetitive, but. [01:40:57] Speaker B: Yeah. All right. Why don't you watch? Do you think? [01:41:01] Speaker A: So, we are part of the deep dive podcast network again. Like I always say, great bunch of guys took us in right away. If you want more individualized podcasts about certain bands, you got Tom Petty, Raya heap, you got rush. Shout out to our buddies at Rush, rash, Judas Priest, another shout out. You name it. It's probably on there. So check them out. And, Mark, where can they find us on the interwebs? [01:41:23] Speaker B: Rock would let pod on all the platforms. Make sure you go to whatever podcasting app and set our things for auto download so you don't miss any. So you don't miss any episodes when they come out. And please leave us some five star reviews if you like what we do. That helps move us up in the podcast list in the world. So that would be great. And next week, we get to finish off this album, and it's awesome. I'm glad we got this. So I guess we will see you guys next week. Thanks for listening have a chance later.