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[00:01:14] Speaker B: Hey everybody. Welcome back to another episode of Rock Roulette Podcast. That's right, the crazy ass podcast that took over 1,400 albums, stuck them in a list, stuck them in a wheel, and typically every third of the week we spin the wheel. She picks a record for us and we go through it track by track. We talk about the music, the lyrics, the production, the melody and the arrangement. And we give it scores 1 through 10. Again, just a bunch of friends who want to do a podcast. Nothing serious here. We love music and as usual, first and foremost, I do want to thank all the listeners. It's been pretty consistent lately, so we really want to thank you. And to answer the question, yes, Frank is very sexy. So you know who you are. Who wanted to know that and we're confirming it.
Frank is sexy. So I guess saying that, why don't we lead into the fact that we are a trio tonight which includes Frank.
[00:02:05] Speaker A: My name is Frank and I'm sexy.
[00:02:20] Speaker C: Hello everybody.
[00:02:22] Speaker B: We have Mark.
[00:02:23] Speaker A: Oh, hi Mark.
[00:02:24] Speaker D: What's up guys?
[00:02:25] Speaker B: And I'm sad. Ciao Buena Sierra. Last week we got a very classic album, Leftoverture by Kansas, which includes one of the most famous classic rock songs of all time. Love it or hate it, we loved it. It's Carry On Wayward Son. We found the rest of the first side. We did the first side, obviously. Definitely some progressive elements in there. We all talked about the production and the, you know, the lyrics seem to be a common theme. Definitely a religious theme theme from somebody who discovering his religiousness, let's say, and then he developed it later on as we had spoken about that too. I thought that the songs in between were pretty good. I thought there were two very good bookends, Miracles out of Nowhere, which ended the side. Mark and I both gave pretty much nines too. I mean, Frank gave pretty. Overall, we've pretty good scores to this. So should I even ask, what do you guys Think, Mark, start with you. What do you think so far?
[00:03:16] Speaker D: So far it's been a great album. I think the production is great, the playing is great, the lyrics are great. It's just. It's a great album so far. I'm excited to see what they do on the second side. I know there's a long song at the end, so I'm curious to see what they do with that.
[00:03:28] Speaker B: Are you kind of going into it saying yes, long song? Because of how good that last song was on the first line. You're like, eight minutes of Kansas is probably going to be something good. It's not something that's going to suck. We don't know. But isn't that the feeling?
[00:03:40] Speaker D: I think so. I hope so.
[00:03:41] Speaker B: Frank, what are your overall thoughts so far?
[00:03:43] Speaker C: Well, I'm going to echo what Mark said. I mean, it's just great. It just reminds you of a time when producers and mixing engineers had to actually come up with creative ways and really focus on the art in order to make it sound so crisp, to make everything sound so great. It made me wonder, with all this technology, is the technology kind of making music less vibrant like we just finished hearing today?
[00:04:05] Speaker B: Well, I mean, I think it's a thing that's been discussed a lot ultimately, from my understanding. I know I complain a lot about when we do new stuff and the drums all kind of sounding the same and not having any dynamics to them. I guess it's the modern sound of what it is. Every generation kind of goes through, I think, certain sounds and that's kind of like what's going on. I think before this sound came, we were complaining about everything was just pushed to 11, it sounded like. And you didn't even need a producer at that point because there really weren't a lot of dynamics. And now it's kind of different again. I always say there's definitely a lot of good stuff out there. Not everything is produced the same. Not everything sounds the same. My biggest complaint is, is the drums. Mark, I know you have your. Your issues as well.
[00:04:45] Speaker D: Yeah, I think that there is definitely a sound. I don't think it's great right at the moment. Maybe it'll get better. The drums are a problem. Auto tune and tuning of vocals problem. It's just a problem. There's lots of problems trying to make everything perfect and then you end up with something that's really not as good because perfect is not always good. Now, this is not perfect. Obviously it's not 100% perfect. We could all say that you would Rather hear production like this, where there's a little more headroom and there's a little more dynamic than some of the stuff we've been hearing in the last 10 years or so, I would think.
[00:05:14] Speaker B: Speaking of complaining, we have our new bet segment where some of these songs that I guess the sound and things that we've. We've all spoken about, liked or not liked, come up especially with bands that we've never heard before. Without further delay, Mark, let's get to the new bets.
In a world where new music is.
[00:05:33] Speaker A: Not easy to find.
[00:05:36] Speaker C: Welcome to new bets.
[00:05:47] Speaker B: I see the wheel.
[00:05:48] Speaker D: Okay, you see the wheel? All right. Are we ready to spin the wheel?
[00:05:51] Speaker B: Oh, you got spirit box on here, man.
[00:05:53] Speaker D: I got stuff.
[00:05:53] Speaker B: It's good stuff. Spirit box.
[00:05:55] Speaker D: I maybe to come up. Who knows?
[00:05:56] Speaker B: I don't know if you'd like it, but it's good stuff.
[00:05:58] Speaker D: I don't know. All right, Here we go.
[00:06:12] Speaker B: Mo, ups and downs. I remember Mo from the 90s.
[00:06:16] Speaker D: Yeah, I think there sounds a little different now than it was then. I've heard part of this. It was pretty good, I thought.
[00:06:21] Speaker B: Yeah, there's stuff back then was pretty good, too. Mellow.
[00:06:23] Speaker D: Yeah, it's kind of mellow.
[00:06:24] Speaker B: Cool. I'm looking forward to it.
[00:06:26] Speaker D: Frank, do you know anything about mo?
[00:06:27] Speaker C: Nope.
[00:06:27] Speaker D: Nope.
[00:06:28] Speaker B: He knows more about Larry and curly.
[00:06:30] Speaker C: There you go.
[00:06:30] Speaker D: All right, so here we go. Here's Mo. Ups and down.
[00:06:51] Speaker A: Take a moment in time sit it with a postage stand drive through town drop it in the mailman's life when it calls your eyes fancy the floaters floating are they the skies are the sugar coating don't change things.
Give him everything you got.
She looks at him, he coughs into his overcoat it smells like gin from a different moment. Standing on just a wounded soldier now carry on, carry on. But folder, don't change a thing.
Give them everything you got and send to the sound.
Straight up through the ups and saw the postman drive away today felt my body floating through every season that has come my way all the best ones are with you.
Ups and downs, ups and downs you're giving me ups and downs ups and downs forgive me ups and downs, ups and downs you're giving me ups and downs ups and downs forgive me ups and downs, ups and downs you're giving me ups and downs ups and downs.
[00:10:24] Speaker B: Not too bad. It's. It's not who I was thinking of. I was thinking of Po, not mo. So as soon as it started, said, oh, that sounds a bit different. They're in that Whole jam band kind of. Kind of genre. But yeah, not bad. The loud part was fun. It was just like garage jamming, which was pretty cool. Mark, what do you think?
[00:10:44] Speaker D: I actually like that a lot. The drum sound was really good. The production was really good. The dynamics of the music was good. I'm not a fan of mo. When I heard this, I heard part of it. I was like, I'm going to put this on there. And I really like it a lot. Frank, what do you think?
[00:10:58] Speaker C: I love the mellowness. It matches today's weather perfectly. Kind of a thing. Yeah, I'm not familiar with it for some hearing, but I like it.
[00:11:06] Speaker D: Yeah, it was very good. All right, well, let's rubber stamp this.
[00:11:10] Speaker B: In a world where new music is.
[00:11:14] Speaker C: Not easy to find.
Welcome to New Bets.
[00:11:29] Speaker B: And speaking of another one in the books, we can go back to Kansas Left Overture the second side, which again, like Mark said, I'm definitely looking forward to.
[00:11:38] Speaker D: So this is called Opus Insert.
[00:12:16] Speaker A: You're tired and so no matter where you go There is something for all who love There's a story in every book all of the pages between all the lines so much that you can.
[00:12:36] Speaker C: Find.
[00:12:38] Speaker A: But there's too many empty lies my friend and we just can't let em waste away well this life is a precious thing my friend and we.
[00:12:50] Speaker B: Can'T wait another day yeah so not completely feeling that one, but not uncompletely feeling it. If I. I'm kind of in between right now.
[00:13:00] Speaker D: I think it's just so funny. I hear Boston in there because it's very around the same time. Right. So I hear lots of that kind of stuff going on. But there's definitely a little Prague going on in here. The bass is really awesome. The bass is playing really good on this. I like that a lot.
[00:13:13] Speaker B: Yeah, bass has been very consistent.
[00:13:14] Speaker C: I like it just more the same. Just greatly prod and the range is great. Hear everything there. I'm going to pay attention to the base. I noticed that in the first run, but now I'm going to focus on that a little bit.
[00:13:24] Speaker D: Yeah, it's doing some good shit. So. Verse 1 There's a reason for all that rhymes It's a fact and the way of the times Moving in motion it's high and it's low no matter where you go verse 2 there is something for all who look There's a story in every book all of the pages between all the lines so much that you can find Then chorus is but there's too many empty lives My friend and we just can't let them waste away for this life is a precious thing, my friend and we can't wait another day. So is this more religious stuff?
[00:13:56] Speaker B: Could be. I mean, again, they said the general theme of this was that kind of the. The search.
[00:14:01] Speaker D: All right, let's continue on and see how it goes. Here we go.
[00:14:04] Speaker A: Every message in every word and it's all in the word you heard Moving emotion it comes like the sea washing all over me but there's nothing that we can do, my friend but the spirit is with us all all we're tearing it down is up and it's down you can feel it surrounding us O.
[00:15:15] Speaker B: I like that part the best so far.
[00:15:16] Speaker D: Yeah, I was just gonna say that that's the part I really like a lot because I feel like the verse and the chorus are kind of so close together that it's not a big differentiation between the two. But the bridge is really good. Yeah.
[00:15:27] Speaker C: Yep. I heard that bass pop. Yeah, I really like that. That, you know, like the way that it could just convert it over to this part of the song. The Orion's back there and I like it.
[00:15:35] Speaker D: So verse three. There's a message in every word and it's more than the word you heard. Moving emotion, it comes like a sea washing all over me and then back to the chorus, which I. Which is different again. But there's nothing that we can't do, my friend because the spirit is with us all it's here and it's now. It's up and it's down. You can feel it surrounding us all. And then Sabino's favorite part, which is the bridge is. After all, it's all the same. Only difference is the name and where we are in this crazy mixed up deal. There's so many things to feel near and far, it's where you are. This is definitely more about religion and finding religion, it looks like.
[00:16:15] Speaker B: Sounds like.
[00:16:16] Speaker D: I don't know if it's my favorite song on this album. There's nothing wrong with it. It's just. It's hard to stand up to some of the other stuff that I've heard so far.
[00:16:23] Speaker B: I'm more curious to see where it's going, especially after that bridge because now it sounds like they're going to something different.
[00:16:28] Speaker D: Yeah. Maybe instrumental, maybe. Who knows? Here we go.
[00:17:16] Speaker B: That's cool. A little circusy. Is that the word I'm looking for? Or rent? Fair E. I'm not exactly sure the word.
[00:17:23] Speaker D: It's very. It's very circusy. And Is there Xylone in there?
[00:17:26] Speaker B: Yeah. I mean, give them credit. They're like, it. Let's just do something like this.
[00:17:30] Speaker D: I was like, what the is going on here? That's just a weird thing to stick in the middle of that song.
[00:17:35] Speaker B: But it fits. It fits them as a band, I think. I don't sit there saying, wait, what? Like, okay, this is what they want to do here.
[00:17:42] Speaker C: Definitely didn't see this change coming. Yeah, I could see that very Amusement park theme song there. I can't wait to hear the rest of it. Is going.
[00:17:49] Speaker B: Frank was prancing around his room right now, juggling.
[00:17:52] Speaker C: Juggling on the unicycle.
[00:17:54] Speaker D: All right, here we go. Let's finish.
[00:18:02] Speaker A: All the life in the love again.
No more the asking it's for all of you if you would take it too but there's too many empty lives But I rent and we just can't let them waste away for this life is a precious thing, my friend and we can't wait Another.
[00:19:12] Speaker B: Yeah. I mean, that. That piece was. Was my favorite. I'm glad they actually kind of went back to it. That also reminded me of Genesis. The rest of it, it's. It's okay. It's just. It's kind of simplistic in a way, if that's the proper term. Obviously not completely simplistic, but it didn't reach me, I think. Or didn't. I didn't feel it as much as some of the other stuff.
[00:19:35] Speaker D: This is the filler song. I don't know. That makes sense. This feels like a filler track until.
[00:19:39] Speaker B: They get to that part, I feel. It's so grand. And it's. And again, it's. It's. I think the. Not that the production is bad for the rest of the song, but in that part, the production is just so perfect. It makes it as grand as. As it should be. And it sounds great. I kind of wish there was more of that. As catchy as the verse and the choruses were, it just didn't. It didn't hit me as much I could kind of. I think there was maybe the second song on the first side was like that or third, so I can't remember which one. Which shouldn't. As much like. We still probably gave it decent scores because, I mean, musicianship, you're not going to. Depends on what. What you're rating it on. How they play or what they play. Right.
[00:20:11] Speaker D: You go first. That.
[00:20:12] Speaker B: Oh, that's it. It's that quick, huh? Music. I'll say. A seven, I think. That part really saves it for me. Lyrics. They're fine. I mean, I'll say seven on the lyrics. Production was great. I'll say. I would say an 8 on the production. Ding. A little bit in this one arrangement was okay. I didn't really like that circusy part in the mid. Wish they had gone to that part that I really liked and built upon that. So Arrangement. I'll say seven again. It's not terrible. Melody was fine. I'll say seven. I know technically when we talk about the Spotify playlist, this would make it to me, it's more of respect thing because just thinking of this album in general, I don't necessarily know that I'd go back to this one. Definitely not as much as some of the stuff on. On the first side. Mark, what do you think?
[00:20:55] Speaker D: Yeah, my stuff's going to be very close. I'm gonna say seven on the music. Seven on the lyric as the melody's fine. Seven arrangement. I'm gonna dig it a little more. I'm gon it a6. Part was interesting and all, but I don't know if it fit the whole vibe of the whole song. Unless you just want to change things up. I mean, maybe that's why. I don't know. Production was good. I'm going to give it an 8. Very similar to your scores.
[00:21:14] Speaker C: Frank. I don't think this was so much to fill. It was more like an experimental song. Okay, let's just do something completely different, completely out there. And here it is. I liked it like the bridge, like the two of you said, and didn't see the song going in the direction that it was going to until the end. It was good. So I'm gonna give it the lyrics. I'm gonna give that a seven. The music, I'll give it a seven. Duction, I'm gonna give that an eight. And the arrangement, I'll give a seven. Melody, I'll give. I'll give that a six.
[00:21:40] Speaker D: I mean, we're all in the same kind of area.
This is kind of like middle of the ground for them. This is what they call filler or what a Kansas filler song is. Maybe the next song is Questions of My.
[00:22:20] Speaker A: When the sun is in the mid sky well he wears a golden crown and he soaks the world with such shine as he makes another Been a faster year than yesterday all the things that I had planned When I think I might be gaining I'm in the sunshine once again well I walk the road of life among the strong among the weak and I ask them for the shortcut to the answer that I seek but no one seems to understand what is the. That would be all the questions of my childhood we were of a mystery Just aware of mystery can you give me through these changes?
All I need is you we the door I don't want to face a world of disillusion I've come to one conclusion that I know you know is true In a game of silent searching the cost of love is rising and I'm just now realizing I'd be better off with you Better off with you.
[00:23:55] Speaker B: I think this one is Return to Form. I mean, I'm really digging this.
[00:23:58] Speaker C: This.
[00:23:59] Speaker B: It has a little bit of, to me, Angry young man vibes from Billy Joel, too. But I'm. I'm liking this one. What do you think, Mark?
[00:24:06] Speaker D: I wasn't sure at the beginning, but the more it went on, the more I liked it. It is very angry young man Billy Joel sounding, but it's good. Yeah. And this is kind of a. More of a popular song, too. This is like 337. This is short. I got to see if it was released as a single, but what did you think, Frank?
[00:24:21] Speaker C: I like the vibe. The musicianship in this is so good so far. And what was that that we hear in the background? Is that those violins?
[00:24:27] Speaker B: Probably, yeah. Violin is very prominent for them.
[00:24:29] Speaker C: They're not just. Wait. I mean, they're right there. You hear them. It was great. Love it.
[00:24:33] Speaker D: When the sun is in the mid sky well, he wears a golden crown and he soaks the world with sunshine as he makes another round Been a faster year than yesterday all the things that I have planned what I think I might be gaining I'm the sunshine once again yeah well I walked in the road of life among the strong among the weak and I asked him for the shortcut to the answers that I seek but no one seems to understand what is and what will be for the questions of my childhood Weave a web of mystery Just a web of mystery and chorus. Can you get me through these changes? Well, I sure don't know about life but one thing's for sure All I need is you, babe we can find the golden key to unlock the door and then there's a little bridge part I don't want to face the world of disillusion I've come to one conclusion that I know you know it's true In a game of silent searching the cost of love is rising I'm just now realizing I'm better off with you Better off with You. Oh, oh. I don't think this is definitely a religious thing. I think this is more relationship thing.
[00:25:33] Speaker B: I'm trying to figure it out a bit. I'm just wondering if the way he's speaking. He soaks the world with sunshine as he makes another round I'm just wondering if. Because again, it's childhood questions of my childhood. I don't know if that's like kind of a kid playing. I think about, like, a child's imagination and maybe growing up to finding this love. If this is like, love, love.
[00:25:54] Speaker D: Maybe.
[00:25:54] Speaker B: Maybe it's open to interpretation.
[00:25:56] Speaker D: Here we go.
[00:26:08] Speaker A: It's a game that I've been living Now I need to know what's real can you help me find the answers? Can you, you tell the way I feel Will you stay with me forever? Just stay with me tonight and we can talk about tomorrow if it all works out all right Guess if it all works out right can you get me through these changes?
All I need is you, baby.
[00:27:28] Speaker B: A little double time country for y'all.
That was good. I. I really like that one.
[00:27:34] Speaker D: I'm gonna say definitely poppy. It's definitely poppy. But you know what I heard, too, with a little bit of the violin, it was a little Dave Matthews. You can see with Dave Matthews might have got some of his stuff, too.
[00:27:44] Speaker B: I mean, pretty much when you think of prominent violins, at least in our lifetime, right, he comes up big. 10,000 maniacs use a lot of violin.
[00:27:54] Speaker D: It wasn't just a violin, though. It was just. It was the meter of the song and the way it pushing it reminded me of just his stuff a little bit.
[00:28:01] Speaker B: I could hear that.
[00:28:01] Speaker D: The game that I've been living Now I need to know what's real can you help me find the answ? Can you tell the way I feel? Will you stay with me forever? Or just stay with me tonight and we can talk about tomorrow if it all works out all right yes, if it all works out all right. Then the chorus is. Can you get me through these changes? Well, I sure don't know about life but one thing's for sure All I need is you, babe we can find the golden key to unlock the door so this is the first time, like, the chorus is the same. It's usually different on every chorus. That's how you know, this was probably positioned a little more to be a radio thing. It feels that way. Anyway.
[00:28:35] Speaker B: I don't know if it was. What did you see? If it was a single? I don't know if it was.
[00:28:39] Speaker D: I didn't see if it was a single. But it feels that way, though. It's short, you know what I mean? There's not a lot of instrumental. It's much, you know, more of a poppier sounding song. So I don't know. That's what it sounds like to me.
[00:28:48] Speaker B: But it's funny, though, when the song starts and kind of gets going, I don't feel that it's going to be that short of a song. I feel like there's going to be more instrumentation. Not that there's anything wrong with what they did. They crammed it all in and it sounded really good to me, but I really was thinking, wow, that's it. It's that short word. I thought this was gonna. They were gonna jam a little bit more, Especially considering how many words there were.
[00:29:09] Speaker D: Frankie, go first.
[00:29:10] Speaker C: This is ultra short. I mean, a lot of lyrics there. I mean, I like the lyrics so far. I'm gonna give those a 7. As far as the music itself, I really do like the. The sound. Everything pops. I mean, it's just, again, more of the same clean engineering going on here. So I'm gonna go ahead and give that a seven as well. Production as eight and arrangement in eight.
[00:29:28] Speaker D: What did you want to do for the melody?
[00:29:30] Speaker C: Oh, I didn't do the melody. Yeah, the melody I like. I. I'll give that a 8. Savino.
[00:29:34] Speaker B: I'm going to say a 9 on production, I think, and an 8 on everything else. I'll make it simple. I really like the production on this one. Not that production has been bad on any of these songs. Again, everything is just so crisp and clear and even in times where you can hear, there's all these instruments kind of going. The levels are great and they did a fantastic job. I really like that one. Mark.
[00:30:01] Speaker D: I'm going to do eights across. I. I think it's a great song. It's very short. It's the point. Interesting with violin and stuff. And his voice has been great through this whole thing. Background vocals have been great. So, yeah, I'm going to do an eight, which means I have to play this.
We're bilingual. Don't you know that?
[00:30:17] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:30:17] Speaker D: This is called Cheyenne Anthony.
[00:30:34] Speaker A: From the mountains to the sun Life has only just begun we wet this land and pledged our souls to meet its end Life has only just begun Here my people roam the earth.
[00:31:08] Speaker B: In.
[00:31:09] Speaker A: The kingdom of our birth where the dust of all our hopes the sun we are mighty on the earth.
[00:31:28] Speaker B: On the earth.
[00:31:33] Speaker A: You have come to move me Take me from my ancient home land of my fathers I can't leave you now we will share it with you no man on this earth we're on now the wheels are rolling Hear the howling winds of war it's my destiny to fight and die but is there no solution?
Can we find no other way?
Lord, let me say under the endless sky and the upbeat. Oh, I was born to live and I will never go.
[00:32:38] Speaker B: When this first started, I wasn't feeling it as much, but once the piano came in, I felt it more. And it seems like they may be going into something else. I mean, clearly the subject is obvious. Meds and meds on this one so far. I do like the piano part, though, so I am curious to see where they go with that.
[00:32:53] Speaker D: I wasn't sure what this is about, but obviously the lyrics are fairly obvious what this is about. It's going to be more of a grandiose song than the last one because it's over six minutes so far. I like it.
[00:33:03] Speaker C: Yeah. Who's singing on this one? There's definitely not Steve Wall. It is.
[00:33:06] Speaker D: Is Robbie Steinhardt.
[00:33:07] Speaker C: Oh, wow. Yeah, I like it. Yeah, it's really good. I mean, one of the songs was the lead vocals on this one, Miracles.
[00:33:13] Speaker D: Out Of Nowhere, the last song.
[00:33:15] Speaker C: So two songs. Oh, well, I like it. You know, they changed it up. The vocalist. I like the vocals on this one. And join the pianos. Interested to see where the song is going to go from here?
[00:33:25] Speaker D: Yeah, so far it's been good. Here are the verses. From the mountains to the sun Life has only just begun we wed this land and pledged our souls to meet its end Life has only just begun Here my people roam the earth in the kingdom of our birth where the dust of all our horses hides the sun we are mighty on the earth. On the earth. And then a bridge comes up. You have come to move me Take me from my ancient home Land of my fathers I can't leave you now we will share it with you no man owns the earth we are on now the wheels are rolling Hear the howling winds of war it's my destiny to fight and die but is there no solution? Can we not find no other way? Lord, let me stay. Chorus. Under the endless sky and the earth below Here I was born to live and I will never go. Oh, no. And they don't say the name of the song so far, which is cool. Yep. I always like that. All right, we got a lot to go here, so let's. Let's continue this. Here we go.
[00:34:27] Speaker A: Like the sun is rising.
[00:37:19] Speaker B: I'm not A big fan of the synth, the way it was used in there. I think, not to be too critical, it sounded a bit silly to me. I think that if it was piano, violin, organ, it would have had more impact for me. Not that it was bad. I mean, obviously it's well composed, but it felt a bit. At least that part felt a little out of place. Again, clearly this is about the. You know, the Cheyenne Indians. And that part comes in and all I think, again, is the medieval fair. That part especially the way it started. Maybe not with the since part, but kind of the way it started and then how it went into that part. I mean, that's just my opinion. Obviously, it's well played.
[00:38:01] Speaker D: Sounded a little Carnival y to me. It was very well put together, like all the parts and stuff. Really well put together. It did feel a little silly with that synth in there, like that. Although it is the 70s, so this is synth times, but still. Yeah, it would probably be better without it, I think.
[00:38:16] Speaker B: I think that's what I was going for. That was a very good term.
[00:38:19] Speaker D: It's carnival. Yeah. It's not Ren faire, it's carnival.
[00:38:22] Speaker B: It's carnival. Yeah, that's what I was thinking.
[00:38:25] Speaker D: It's like Frankie said, it's clowns juggling on a unicycle, which is really not what you want in the middle of this.
[00:38:30] Speaker C: Although I will say that for a little bit of a moment there, that sounded like you will find in the soundtrac track of Peewee's Big Adventure.
[00:38:37] Speaker B: That's even worse than what I said.
[00:38:39] Speaker A: Do you promise you won't laugh at.
[00:38:41] Speaker D: Me if I tell you something?
[00:38:48] Speaker B: I mean, that was a great show.
[00:38:49] Speaker C: But no, like. Like in the movie itself, like when he's having the whole dream sequence that he's running in the bike in the beginning, that's what it sounded like.
[00:38:59] Speaker D: I don't know how that fits into this. We're almost done, believe it or not. So let's finish it out. I guess I'll just read the bridge. Then there's an outro. So the bridge is. But we cannot endure like the earth and the mountains Life is not ours to keep For a new sun is rising. And obviously that's a children chorus in there, so that was interesting. They changed it up a little bit and then they went into Carnival's music. So whatever. So this is where sometimes the progressive rock stuff loses me a little bit. That's where some of it's just like. I don't really know. Like, did that really need to be there? I don't know. It's cool, and it's very well put together and produced and played. Some of it didn't feel like it belonged there. I don't know. Strange. Let's continue. Here we go.
[00:39:54] Speaker A: For our freedom we must pay.
[00:40:01] Speaker D: All.
[00:40:01] Speaker A: Our words and deeds are carried on the wind in the ground our bodies lay, you will stay.
[00:41:21] Speaker B: I like the music in that outro better than the music in the middle, personally. When he came back in with the acoustic, it was very cool, and it reminded me a lot of Day in the Life by the Beatles. I was kind of waiting for the piano to come in and go, yeah.
[00:41:36] Speaker D: Yeah, I like that part a lot. I think that might be my favorite part of the whole song. Is that end part right there because.
[00:41:41] Speaker C: It ended or because Another reason?
[00:41:44] Speaker D: No, no, I like the acoustic thing, and I like his singing there, but some parts in the middle kind of lost me. Like I said, I'm not a huge fan of prog rock, and I like some of it, but some of that is where it gets a little too much for itself. And that's kind of what I feel about the middle of this song. Oh, I got to read the end part, don't I? Soon these days shall pass away for our freedom we must pay all our words and deeds are carried in the wind in the ground our bodies lay here we'll stay. I mean, I guess the lyrics are fine. They are what they're about. They're not horrible. I'll give them a seven. Melody, I think was fine. I'll give it a six. I'm not gonna ding the musicianship as far as, like, the playing, so I'm gonna give that a seven. But in arrangement, I'll probably give that. I don't know. I mean, I hate to give it, like, a five, but I think I'm gonna give it a five because I think it didn't A, need to probably be as long as it was, and B, some of the inst choices were not what I would like, but production, I mean, everything sounded. With all that stuff going on, it still sounded great. So I'm gonna give that an eight. Frank.
[00:42:41] Speaker C: Yeah, I'm gonna give. Production arrangement. I'm gonna give those nines. I liked it, especially with that little peewee break kind of like in the middle there. I like that part. The lyrics. I'm gonna give that a seven. Melody. I give a seven, Musician. I'm gonna give that. I'm gonna give that a 9 there. I thought this was very well composed, very well done. So you know.
[00:43:01] Speaker B: Nice. I wasn't expecting such high scores from you. I would say a seven on the lyrics, a seven on the melody. I like the melody. I'll say an 8 on production. So if I'm judging music on music. Not a musicianship. Not because obviously they all can play. I'll say a six on the music. Maybe a five on arrangement. It's hard. I agree, though, Mark, when you said. Because I was thinking the same thing. The song didn't need to be as long song. And I think it's because maybe we didn't enjoy that middle part so much. But I can picture this song being shorter, more concise, and I think it would have had more of an impact, especially without that middle part or had they kind of used that end part in the middle and built around that again. It's not a terrible song. And I'd probably go back to it and maybe fast forward that middle section and then kind of hear everything else. Because I liked everything. Everything else.
[00:43:56] Speaker D: I mean, it's not horrible. I think, in general, I think side one is much better for me so far. That's just my opinion right now. But we have the last song. This is a big song. It's long. It's 8 minutes and 26 seconds. There's a lot of instrumental in this. This is called Magnum Opus. There's, like, little parts to it. I'm not going to read all the little parts. What they're calling all the pieces of the song. And there's not very much lyrics. So I think this is going to be a lot of instrumental. We'll stop it somewhere in between. This kind of gives some ideas, but we'll try to get through this as quick as we can. 8 minutes and 26 seconds. Magnum opus.
[00:46:34] Speaker B: I really like that. I thought that was really good.
[00:46:36] Speaker D: I'm gonna say I like that a lot. That's really cool.
[00:46:39] Speaker B: Yeah, I love.
[00:46:39] Speaker C: I love that. I really do like that beginning.
[00:46:42] Speaker D: Is there.
[00:46:42] Speaker C: I think there's a live version of this that was recorded. Yeah, there's one of those songs you wish you can hear live so far.
[00:46:47] Speaker D: So.
[00:46:48] Speaker C: Yeah, I like it.
[00:46:49] Speaker D: Yeah, it's cool. All right, so there's some words in this part of it. So that was part one of it. Father Padilla meets the perfect gnat. Or Father Padilla meets the perfect Gnat, depending on what language you're trying to speak.
[00:47:00] Speaker B: It's probably Padilla.
[00:47:01] Speaker D: You think so?
[00:47:02] Speaker B: I would think so, yeah.
[00:47:03] Speaker D: Okay, so now this next part is Howling at the Moon.
[00:47:13] Speaker A: This foolish game was still the same.
The Notes go flying off in the and don't you believe it's true Music is all for you it's really all we got to share Cuz rocking and rolling it's only howling at the moon it's told me how.
[00:47:55] Speaker B: It'S funny There are parts that throughout the album I've kind of heard music from the elder. And I say that probably because there are elements of Pink Floyd that I hear, which makes sense. If you think about Bob Ezrin producing the wall and then producing the Elder. I don't know if you pick up on that marker from just shooting Smoke.
[00:48:13] Speaker D: I think it's because of the synth and the keyboards and all that kind of stuff. Probably gives you a little bit of that problem. I mean, this is pretty good too, this little part here. I don't think there's any more words after this. Everything's instrumental. I think I read the words. Like I like this part a lot. Like this could be a song by itself. Like you could take this piece and make a song out of this instead of being part of something else. Maybe didn't have other parts for it and they kind of just stuck it in over here because it made sense. This foolish game oh, it's still the same the notes go flying off in the air and don't you believe it's true the music is all for you it's really all we've got to share because rocking and rolling it's only howling at the moon it's only howling at the movie moon the next part is called Man Overboard.
[00:51:15] Speaker B: It's nice hearing the electric guitar come back. I feel like it's been missing for a while and it's very prominent in this song.
[00:51:21] Speaker D: Second side has a lot less electric guitar. Run it. But I don't know where I'm at here. I can't even tell you what all the parts are at this point. There's no numbering, like where parts come in and out. So I don't know where we're at. But it's pretty cool though.
[00:51:32] Speaker B: Yeah, I think it's really good.
[00:51:34] Speaker D: There's lots of cool parts.
[00:51:35] Speaker B: Heavy at times.
[00:51:37] Speaker D: Oh yeah. Heavy at times and very complicated at times. Interesting rhythm and stuff. It's cool.
[00:51:42] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:51:42] Speaker C: I very well hold. Very well arranged. Like you're saying there's a lot of complexities in there. I mean, there's just something that's awesome jam know. Jamming out too. It's great.
[00:51:51] Speaker D: Yeah. We're only five minutes in, so we have another three and a half minutes probably. Here we go.
[00:55:08] Speaker B: Is that it?
[00:55:09] Speaker D: That's the end of it.
[00:55:09] Speaker B: That did not feel like three minutes. I don't think there's any bad part in that song.
[00:55:14] Speaker D: My question would be, does it need be one big song? That's the question. I think more than that, Anything. All the parts are good. Could there have been a couple of songs here? Maybe. I don't know.
[00:55:22] Speaker B: Maybe they were just like, ah, it. Let's just jam it all together.
[00:55:26] Speaker D: I guess so.
Well, then go first.
[00:55:30] Speaker B: I don't know what to say about the lyrics. I mean, they're fine. There's barely anything in there. I'll just say a seven on the lyrics, but I'm gonna say nine on everything else. I think every part of that was great. It all flowed together. Nothing was abrupt. There were no bad changes. It was nice to hear the guitar make a comeback and really play some heavy stuff. I mean, this thing recorded heavily would sound really heavy. I thought it was a great song and a great way to end the album, honestly. Mark.
[00:55:56] Speaker D: Yeah, I was happy to hear the guitar come back. I think I'm gonna have to do eights across on this again. I question whether it needed to be all together, but you're right. There was no abrupt pieces that changed up and didn't feel like they were all together. I think it was great. But since I did eights, I got to do my eight thing again again.
Right.
[00:56:14] Speaker C: You know what? You're gonna have to play that again because I'm giving it all eights, too. I think it was very well composed. I. I do like the concept that it was just one song. Just different areas, different emotions going through it. I can see a point, Mark, where it could have been, hey, listen, maybe a couple of different songs, but I just like how they did the whole thing as one and just give us all those different variations there. So definitely going to give that a total cross.
[00:56:35] Speaker D: Well, I think that it was a awesome record to get. I do think that I like side one better, but there are parts of side two that I really like. I like Magnum Opus I Opus Insert. You know, I think I liked almost everything. I just think side one, I was a little more. Maybe it was just because it hit me a little different. I don't know. Like I wasn't expecting some of the stuff I listened to. I think maybe that did it. It's a good album.
[00:56:53] Speaker B: Yeah. Overall, it's a very good album. Without a doubt. Clearly they were great musicians, Pretty good composers. The production, we all like the production.
[00:57:01] Speaker C: I think one of the things we. We Agreed on throughout the whole album is how well produced it was. The stock difference of going from what we heard the last go around, where that album just felt like it was just poorly executed to this one. The stark difference just goes to show you how great production can just really make an album memorable. Never heard the album from track one to the final track until today, but I like it. It's something I'll definitely gonna give another listen to at some point.
[00:57:25] Speaker D: That's a great album. I don't know a lot about Kansas, obviously. I know the big hits, but it's interesting to listen to some of the stuff that would not have gotten played on the radio, see some of the deeper tracks and how musical they are and how they don't feel like any of the parts. Even though there's lots of parts. It doesn't feel like they're jammed together. Some songs you feel that parts are jam together, but that's not the case here. And you do a great job. All right, Saf, why don't you do your thing?
[00:57:47] Speaker B: So we are part of the Deep Dive Podcast network again, like I always say, great bunch of guys took us in right away. If you want individualized podcasts about bands, check them out. You got Rush, Judas Priest. I don't think there's Kansas, but pretty much everything famous is on there. And Mark, where can they find us.
[00:58:01] Speaker D: On the Interwebs Rockwellet pod on all the social media. Rockwelletpodcast.com for our polls, our merch. Put a new bets idea in. Shoot us an email about an album that we can put on the list. Interact with us on all the socials and stuff. We try to be active on there. Try to get you guys active, share us out, leave us a review on whatever podcast app that you listen to and put us on auto download because release every Tuesday so you can get the next album and next week we get the spin again. Which is the most fun part of this whole thing is to get something new. Just like we got this us, who knows? We're just going to throw at us next time things we.
[00:58:39] Speaker B: We know and things we should know.
[00:58:41] Speaker D: Yeah, I think this is an album that we never really got into. We say this a lot. Albums like this, someone would have had to have given me this. I never would have listened to this on my own back in the day. This is brand new. It's a discovery. I know one song and then the rest of them I don't know. So that's great.
[00:58:55] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean, I had this album floating around my childhood and I definitely should have listened to it. I had this album floating around in two different countries, so I definitely should have listened to it. So I'm glad I got it now. Without a doubt.
[00:59:06] Speaker D: All right, I guess we'll see you next week.
[00:59:08] Speaker B: Ciao. Ciao.
[00:59:10] Speaker C: Have a good night.
[00:59:11] Speaker D: Later.
