Episode 151 - KXM - KXM - Part 2

[00:00:00] Speaker A: Foreign. [00:00:04] Speaker B: This is our musical reaction breakdown and commentary analysis of this song. Under Fair Use, we intend no copyright infringement and this is not a replacement for listening to the artist's music. The content made available on this podcast is for educational and informational purposes only, notwithstanding a copyright owner's rights under the Copyright Act. Section 107 of the Copyright act allows limited use of copyrighted material without requiring permission from the rights holders for purposes such as education, criticism, comment, news, reporting, teaching, scholarship and research. These so called fair uses are permitted even if the use of the work would otherwise be infringing. Now on to the Rock Roulette Podcast. [00:01:03] Speaker A: Foreign. [00:01:14] Speaker C: Hey everybody, welcome back to another episode of Rock Roulette Podcast. That's right, the crazy ass podcast that took over 1, 500 albums, stuck them in a list, stuck them in a wheel and typically every other week we spin the wheel. She picks a record for us and we go through a track by track. We talk about the music, the lyrics, the production, the melody and the arrangement and we give it scores. Just a bunch of guys who love music and want to do a pop podcast. As always, we really want to thank anybody who's listening. Spread the word, tell us what you like, what you don't like. Really appreciate any comments we get. Spread the word, Tell people, hey, you know these idiots are kind of fun sometimes. Check them out. Tonight we are a duo. We have Mark. Oh hi Mark. [00:01:50] Speaker B: What's up guys? [00:01:51] Speaker C: And I'm sad. Ciao buena sira and we wish well to Frank who has to take care of something. Hopefully everything's okay tonight. We Last week the Wheel picked a weird one for us, kxm and I actually have it written on my hand here because I couldn't remember the arrangement of the initials. It's the drummer from korn, the bass player singer from King's X and George lynch from Daken and Lynch Mob. I think Mark, what we found out, these guys just basically went into a studio, just started writing songs and kind of made a record. I don't know the order of how this stuff was written. We definitely figured out that first couple of songs were mishmash pieces. Again, we don't know what order they wrote this in, but as the side progressed it was definitely more cohesive. Although I did find that the interesting stuff in the first two songs were my favorite parts out of everything. Now obviously there's going to be some good musicianship. What do you think? And so far I think that the. [00:02:40] Speaker B: Last bunch of songs were better. Maybe not as interesting, but at least they were More cohesive. I think the first part was a little disjointed. [00:02:46] Speaker C: I would think that they probably did that stuff first. I could be wrong, but it feels as if they're like, hey, let's throw the shit against the wall. Here's what stick and this kind of sticks. So let's leave it. And then it seems as the songs progress, they do become more cohesive. And again, whether they're as interesting or not is up for debate. I'm looking forward to see what's going on the second side. I'm thinking this could be one of those second sides better than the first. I could be wrong, but you never know. I always like stuff like that. Obviously, before we get to that, we have to pick the New Bets in. [00:03:15] Speaker A: A world where new music is not easy to find. Welcome to New Bets. [00:03:30] Speaker B: Okie dokie. Can you see the wheel? [00:03:32] Speaker C: I see the wheel. [00:03:33] Speaker B: Here is the new Bets wheel. [00:03:47] Speaker C: Messer find out Any idea? [00:03:51] Speaker B: I have no clue. Things are on here and I have no idea. [00:03:54] Speaker C: I definitely feel that we have more stuff that we question than anything else. But it's fun. [00:04:00] Speaker B: I like that this is new stuff, so it's fun to listen to. [00:04:03] Speaker C: I'm curious to see what goes on here. [00:04:05] Speaker B: All right, well, here we go. This is Messer. Find out. [00:04:20] Speaker A: Everything Everything is trapped in me. Breaking out, rising up from underneath Setting fire deep inside and I can't breathe yeah and I can feel the way Stop Fuck. In my soul there's no escape you should know that Just when you thought you started to figure me out. All your life in control of me I'mma burn it all down Try to bury the part of me that can think for myself Keep on pushing me, pushing me f around and find out and I feel dislike a wrecking ball you build it up and I'm smashing down those walls you can only push a man so far yeah and I can feel that way Stop f my soul there's no one you should know that Just when you thought you started to figure me out. All your lives and control of me I'mma burn it all down Try to bury the part of me that can think for myself Keep on pushing me, pushing me, pushing me push they pushing down Just when you thought you started to figure me out. All your life ain't controlling me I'mma burn it all down Try to bury the part of me that can think for myself Keep on pushing me, pushing me around and find out Just when you thought you started to figure me out. All your lies in control of me I'mma burn it all down Trying to bury the part of me that can think for myself Keep on pushing me, pushing me pushing me pushing me pushing yeah Just when you thought you started to figure me out all your lies control of me Imma burn it all down Try to bury the part of me that can think for myself Keep on pushing me, pushing me pushing me pushing me pushing yeah Just when you thought you started to figure me out all your lives in control of me I'mma burn it all down Try to bury the part of me that can take for myself Keep on pushing me, pushing me around and find out Just when you thought you started to figure me out all your lies ain't control of me I'mma burn it all down Try to bury the part of me that can think for myself Keep on pushing me, pushing me around and find. [00:07:20] Speaker C: Out it's actually funny. Before they got to the chorus, I said to myself, are they gonna say, like, the whole phrase? I feel like it's coming. I like the chorus. I think the production is crappy, at least drum wise. I like the way the song ended, the way they kind of lowered the music and let the vocals keep going. What do you think? [00:07:37] Speaker B: I'm starting to think I don't like anything new because the production is really not great. I don't like the drums. You know what? It reminds me of Nickelback. I don't know why. [00:07:45] Speaker C: Yeah, I can hear that. Yeah, I can hear it in his voice. I think you're right. [00:07:48] Speaker B: Yeah, I'm not a big fan of that. Not that their songs are bad, really either. They get a really bad rap. I know people bust on them all the time. [00:07:55] Speaker C: Yeah, they're definitely the modern Winger. [00:07:58] Speaker B: It wasn't bad. It wasn't horrible. It's not like if you put it on that you would, like, turn it off. It's not horrible. [00:08:03] Speaker C: Oh, it's good. Something we've never heard of. Kind of looked them up quickly, and I think they only have one full length back in 2019 and this single just released. Or they've been just releasing singles. [00:08:12] Speaker B: They've been around since 2009, it looks like. It's not the worst thing I've heard. It's not the best thing I've heard. It's fine. If you guys like it, let us know. If you don't like it, let us know. And let's rubber stamp another New Bets. Here we go. [00:08:24] Speaker A: In a world where new music is not easy to find. Welcome to New Bets. [00:08:43] Speaker C: You did in honor of Frank. [00:08:45] Speaker B: Yeah, I Did it for Frank. He's not here, so I figured I'd do it in solidarity. It's time for the next side. There's no lyrics for any of this stuff out there, and I'm not gonna try to figure out what the lyrics are. We're gonna have to listen to it and hopefully try to figure out what the song is. Old school. Like we used to get a record and used to be no lyrics inside. That's what we're doing. I know. Me too. I was happy when there was lyrics inside the albums. Eventually, the next song is Sleep. [00:09:19] Speaker A: Now, my stepdad was the kind of man who liked his women submissive. A pop or a slap or a broken bone wasn't too far from his thinking. Now, my mom was a take no bullshit tomboy. She didn't mess around. She said, we're doing this 50 50, and she wasn't backing down. He shouted, woman, I know what you need because you have lost your head. Now she knew what was going down. And her reply was this. Do you plan on sleeping? Good night. [00:10:20] Speaker C: I find some of the chords interesting, but overall kind of not feeling it. [00:10:24] Speaker B: I like this one a lot. It's very king sex cord. [00:10:27] Speaker C: It just wasn't. Kind of like it could get better for me. I'm not going to judge it too quickly. [00:10:31] Speaker B: I think the lyrical content is kind of interesting about his stepfather and his mother and how his mother doesn't deal with the bullshit. And that stepfather seems to be the kind of guy who uses his fist more than his mouth. So it's kind of interesting. [00:10:42] Speaker C: Yeah, it sounds like a dick. [00:10:44] Speaker B: Yeah, it does sound like a dick. But I like the riff. I like the drums. I think it's pretty good. It's so funny. All the ones I like, you don't like. All the ones you like, I don't like. [00:10:52] Speaker C: I can feel like it could grow me. I'm not judging it too, because I like some of the chords and stuff. They're kind of some weird things. Maybe it's the melody that's throwing me off a little bit, But I'm hoping it'll grow on me. [00:11:01] Speaker B: All right, let's continue. Here we go. [00:11:02] Speaker A: Now, my mom's best friend was a beautiful girl. When she married my daddy's brother. She was so fun and he was jealous all the time. He was always beating on her. Once it got so bad, he beat her in the face, broke her bones. Could have been murder. He got away with it cause she put up with his shit. Not like my mother. He shouted, woman, I Know what you need because you have lost your head so she looked him straight in the eyes Dead and serious do you plan on sleeping tonight? Do you plan on sleeping Plan on sleeping tonight? Oh, I got one question but do as you like do you plan on plan on sleeping tonight? Oh. [00:12:56] Speaker C: What do you think of that? [00:12:56] Speaker B: It's very hendrixy. [00:12:58] Speaker C: I was thinking that too. [00:12:59] Speaker B: I was very surprised by that. I've never heard George lynch play that bluesy. [00:13:02] Speaker C: Probably one of those guys who just do anything. Like, there's some drummers who just drum anything. And it's definitely not a bad song. Probably one of my favorites so far. Overall, did you think he was going to kind of stay in that zone the whole time? Or do you think maybe at one point he's going to break open? I wonder if he's going to do that at the end. [00:13:17] Speaker B: No, I think he was going to stay in that zone. It sounded like he was going to stay in the bluesy zone. I was very surprised that that comes out of him because I don't really hear him play that way. So to hear that from him is a little weird for me. But I liked it. I thought it was great. It seems like it's a really personal song. I wonder if this is a real thing. [00:13:32] Speaker C: Yeah, I don't know. I was thinking that too. Like, if this is stuff that really happened to him or if he's just singing about somebody else or maybe somebody he knows. [00:13:38] Speaker B: Yeah, I don't know. I like it, though. So far, I think it's my favorite song. All right, let's continue. Here we go. [00:13:49] Speaker A: He knew what he was gonna do no drama it was plain and simple conversation he backed up in the town he found himself another wife Wherever he's at it's a matter of fact I bet he's glad he's got his alive now. Mama didn't take no crap she always did what she said she has a button you don't wanna push. Cause you never know what you'll on sleeping. Good night. Do you plan on sleeping? Plan. Just one question. Do what you like. Do you plan on sleeping tonight? Oh. [00:14:57] Speaker C: I'm not crazy about that ending. I just feel like they were pulling us up and then they just, okay, we're done. We're just gonna stop it right here. To me, it needed something. [00:15:05] Speaker B: At the end it was okay. I could have liked a fade, maybe, or something else. I think I'll go first. I think I'm gonna do sevens across. Except for the melody. I'm gonna do five. I think the Melody is a little tough in the verses. I think it's my favorite song overall. At least one of my favorites anyway. What do you think? [00:15:20] Speaker C: Make it easy. I was thinking the same thing, so let's just make it easy. Same exact thing. Overall, it's pretty good. Pretty good stuff in it. [00:15:27] Speaker B: I think in general, with super groups, you have an expectation of the individual person's bands, and you kind of put that on the supergroup. That's a hard thing. Just like the Firm, like, had a big expectation because who they were. I think that's the same thing here. You have an expectation. I think individually, we probably like a lot of the stuff that they do, but, you know, when they put it all together, is it going to work? That's the question. Not all supergroups work. I think they're starting to hit their stride. [00:15:50] Speaker C: I do think, though, that. And it could be just because he's singing. If I had to pick who they sound the most like, it's definitely King's ex. I don't know if it's because he's writing most of this stuff. I feel like I can hear them more than anybody. And I'm not saying I need to hear Daken or Corn in this based on whatever. I would say. King's X is definitely the one coming through for me the most. Said a couple of times, like, oh, this kind of sounds like Hendrix and King X kind of thing. And, you know, maybe too, because of the voice and the way he sings, because he does have a style of singing. That could be it, but that's what I'm hearing more of. So if the next one is just straight up, like, I'm like, okay, there's docket. [00:16:25] Speaker B: Next one's called Love. [00:17:07] Speaker A: Well, I'm well alive and I'm sure it's good. And King get in high. Why should I stop When I'm floating on top of the mud? Well, I'm hot as a rock. That's been good on my luck I'll give you some. But if you're gonna do it, do it right. [00:17:31] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:17:32] Speaker A: Cause this could be the last day of your life, baby. Oh, it's what I want, it's what I need? It's everywhere it's hard to find? It's all I want is w. [00:18:12] Speaker C: I obviously have never heard this before, but clearly this is the most dark and sounding song on the album so far. I was gonna say. And I was just kidding. When I was like, here comes it. I was like, holy. You hear that? Beginning guitar playing and having heard him you would say to yourself, wow, that sounds like George Lynch. I'm definitely not digging the chords. I feel like the chorus is a bit of a letdown. The verses aren't bad. I mean, I kind of like, what's. I'm not crazy about the production on this one, though. I think it's kind of muddy. It feels like. I think there's parts of every song I've liked one way or another. [00:18:41] Speaker B: I definitely heard the George lynch at the beginning and the riff and little solo thing. It was just funny that you said, oh, yeah, well, it's gonna go. And there it is. I was like, okay, so he's psychic now. He knows exactly what's gonna happen. Yeah, the chorus is a little interesting. It's. It's the love. And then at least I give him one thing. At least he tries to do interesting rhymes and not just do love through the whole thing and not say anything else. The chorus is a little bit of a letdown. Let's see. Maybe it'll grow on us. Who knows? All right, here we go. [00:19:31] Speaker A: And I'm blind as a bat but my eyes are intact and I'm aware. But if you want to do it, do it right. Cause this could be the last day of your life. Is what I want Is what I need where it's hard to find it's all I want Is why. [00:20:23] Speaker C: It'S not bad. Look, I mean, the chorus actually didn't bother me as much this time. Around worlds. It's a pretty good song. It's funny because when the drums are on their own, I think they sound okay, but kind of like when it's all blended together, to me, it could be just the way I hear it. It sounds a bit muffled. Not muffled, but muddy. And that's when they're all together. [00:20:40] Speaker B: I really wasn't paying attention to your shirt. I don't think it's a great drum sound in general, so I'd have to listen to it again when it comes around. I'm curious to see what kind of solo he does here, because I'm sure it's gonna be different than last one. Let's do it here. Mr. Lynch, let's see what you got. Here we go. [00:21:20] Speaker C: What you think? [00:21:20] Speaker B: Very subdued. I wasn't expecting. I thought it was going to be a little more ripping. But it was good, though. [00:21:24] Speaker C: Though I wanted more out of that. Me too, personally. And listen, you're never gonna knock the weak. Please. [00:21:29] Speaker B: No. And I didn't think the drums were as bad as you're thinking. Didn't sound as bad when I listened to it right then I think the. [00:21:34] Speaker C: Drums, when they're alone, they sound okay. Like when everybody's together, I feel like everything feels muddy. It's not just like a drum thing. It could be the way it's sounding to me. I know sometimes depending on how we're listening to it or how it comes across in our headphones, it could happen. Yeah. [00:21:47] Speaker B: I don't think it's too bad. I mean, I could have been worse. I assumed there wasn't a lot of production going on here because it got done so quickly, but another decent song. So at least they trying to get things a together, I think. Yeah, it's unpound and they like the one word song names, Sleep, Love. And the next one is in one word too. All right, let's continue. Here we go. [00:22:12] Speaker A: This could be the last day of your life if you're going to do it do it right oh, cuz this could be the last day of your life oh, it's what I want is what I need it's everywhere it's hard to find it's all I want it's all I need yeah it's all I want is all I need. [00:23:17] Speaker C: Yeah, love totally needs. [00:23:22] Speaker B: Do you like the ending better? [00:23:24] Speaker C: Yeah. Oh, yeah. Even in the last one, even if they kind of repeated the chorus, but I don't even think they did that. The chorus was kind of my favorite part of the song and they didn't even do that. They just ended on one chorus and boop, stop. [00:23:35] Speaker B: So why don't you go first? [00:23:37] Speaker C: I'll say six on the lyrics, seven on the music, six on the melody and arrangements, and I'll say six on the production. I was gonna give it five, but maybe if you're saying it's not as bad as it's not as muddy as maybe it's just coming through my way. Pretty decent song overall. I mean, it's something that I'd probably check out again. Kind of like this first time. Let me see if I like it better or less this time. So what, what do you want to give it? [00:23:59] Speaker B: I'm gonna do six on the lyrics, six on the melody, seven on the music, six on the arrangement. I think I'm gonna do five on the production. [00:24:06] Speaker C: All right, so I'll give it a 52 then. [00:24:08] Speaker B: Okay. You could have gave it a 5. [00:24:10] Speaker C: Before changing it to 5. It's not just me then. I wanted to give it a five. I thought maybe it was me. [00:24:15] Speaker A: Me. [00:24:15] Speaker B: No, it's not you. I'm gonna give it a five. I don't think the drums are bad. I think that overall, it's a little muddy. I don't think it's just the drum stuff, though. It wasn't bad. I like the song. So the next one up is Burn. [00:24:44] Speaker A: Sam. Love goes a long, long way and love will make you pay when love falls to the ground it's hard to count spins around I love where the burning be desire Be careful be concerned Love is a few on the fire Let it burn Let it burn Let it burn. [00:26:05] Speaker C: I think there's a feel of who's writing what. That sounds like a George lynch riff, without a doubt. I like the riff, and I like the beginning. I just feel that when it kind of. The chorus, I guess it kind of loses me. Only because at this point, I feel. Okay. I've kind of heard this already on this record. I feel like the beginning is kind of newish ground because a lot of stuff on the first side doesn't sound as George Lynchy Dawkins, but these last two songs kind of did. I mean, it's not bad. At this point, I'm like, okay, now I really feel like I've heard this on here already. I don't know. What do you think? [00:26:32] Speaker B: I kind of like the riffs. I think the drumming is a little interesting. I don't know if about the melody and stuff, the vocal. His voice is very specific. His voice really works in King's X. I don't know how much. Sometimes it doesn't work outside. It's okay here. I like the rhythm in the verses, like the staccato guitar and the little riffs he's doing. I don't think it's bad. There's a lot of love in the song for something called Burn, though. [00:26:52] Speaker C: Like the beginning, the riff. I like the drums. I just feel like kind of when the singing comes in, everything then I'm like, to me, there's not enough differentiation now where I'm saying, okay. I think that's kind of what it is. And maybe it just is the melody. I mean, obviously this was done quickly. No, not sold yet. [00:27:08] Speaker B: Let's see. Maybe they'll change on the second time around. And here we go. [00:27:15] Speaker A: Love like a rope around your neck the deep black holes of darkness I got a question I need to know. Cause God bless the child that's got his own I love With a burning desire Be careful, be concerned My love is a fuel Light of fire Going to burn Going to burn going. [00:28:01] Speaker C: I don't think it's bad. But now I feel like I'm getting a little bit of that second side burnout maybe. Even though it's interesting. So I will give him credit for that. I don't think this is really gonna get really. I'm not saying, oh, this is gonna get like fours and. No, absolutely not. I don't know. It's okay. [00:28:13] Speaker B: I like the verses a lot. The verses are real good. The chorus is ass. The music's very interesting. I like that little stick thing he did right before the second verse on the drums. [00:28:21] Speaker C: He did it before as well. [00:28:22] Speaker B: It was interesting. So that's pretty cool. I'm curious to see what they're gonna do now. It looks like another part's coming up, so I want to see what happens, happens. All right, here we go. [00:28:41] Speaker A: Inside my circle of fire. You're gonna ram. [00:29:33] Speaker C: What do you think of the solo? [00:29:34] Speaker B: I thought solo was good. I like the wawa. I like that little riff after the solo. I mean, it's not a bad song. No, I think the chorus is the worst part of the song. And even that it's not horrible. There's a lot of interesting stuff going on. [00:29:43] Speaker C: Yeah, I mean, listen, obviously these are great musicians and they're not boring musicians. In fact, a lot of this stuff seems to be impromptu. I was reading about the second record too and they said they kind of try to do the same thing. A lot of impromptu writing, without a doubt. Unless something really sucks. You have to give them credit for being able to do something like that. Especially considering their backgrounds. I mean, again, yeah, obviously there's rock and all their backgrounds, but it's just different type. I do give them credit. [00:30:04] Speaker B: While writing like that can be dangerous. Either going to be good or it could be really bad. The mere fact that they go into it like that and it's still halfway decent, you don't really have enough time to really work it out. You're just going in there and doing it and hope you work it out a little bit and hoping that it works out the way you want it to. [00:30:18] Speaker C: I mean, you would hope in 2014 at least Pinnock and Lynch would know, hey, this sucks, dude. [00:30:24] Speaker B: Sometimes you get too close though, and if, if you don't have enough, forget who the producer is. Is the producer a hands on guy? He's gonna let you know that it sucks. Or is it, oh, this is George Lynch. Like, can't tell him this sucks. One of those things. [00:30:34] Speaker C: Chris Collier. [00:30:35] Speaker B: Yeah. I don't know, you'd have to look him up maybe on the Next music. Or you can try to figure out who he is, because I forget. I don't think I even knew last time. [00:30:40] Speaker C: Yeah, I think he actually produced all three of them. [00:30:42] Speaker B: Oh, did he? [00:30:43] Speaker C: Yeah, he definitely did the next one, obviously. They must have liked working with him. [00:30:46] Speaker B: Not horrible. The last three songs have been pretty decent. Maybe these were written a little bit later on in the process. I don't know. Maybe the first ones. Who knows, really, what happens here? I didn't really notice anyway. All right, let's run it out. Here we go. [00:31:11] Speaker A: Light up fire. Gonna burn, gonna burn, gonna burn. [00:32:38] Speaker C: That's a cool ending. He branched out a little bit. I mean, I do like the main riff. [00:32:41] Speaker B: That end part was really good. I like the end part a lot. Solo was good. Everything was good. I guess I'll go first. I'm gonna give it six on the lyrics, five on the melody, and then seven on everything I else. I think the production is a little bit better here too. What do you think? [00:32:53] Speaker C: I'll say five on the lyrics, five on the melody, and six. Whatever. It's like, I don't think it's bad. This song gave me a little bit of burnout, even though there's some parts that I really liked. So I'm hoping that the next one kind of pulls me back. [00:33:06] Speaker B: So this is do it now. [00:33:16] Speaker A: Sam. I saw you play with it. You left the door cracked open, the curtains and the blinders on. I could feel the tension. I could feel the power and the thought, the temptation. I must confess I was impressed. You have my full attention. Do it. Yeah, do it. Come on. Yeah, do it. [00:34:46] Speaker C: Definitely interesting parts as a whole. I think it's okay. The melodies, I think, are the things we've complained about the most. And this is no knock on him, especially when you're doing things this quickly. And a lot of this stuff doesn't seem to be easy to sing over either. These are not straightforward riffs and things that they're doing. So that probably contributes to some of it. And it's actually funny. At some point, he reminded me of David Lee Roth a little bit in this song. I kind of of felt some channeling. [00:35:13] Speaker B: Of him, maybe, because writing over weird riffs is maybe what you're thinking about, because, yeah, you're right. A lot of stuff is not straightforward. And to even come up with melodies and stuff over riffs like this sometimes is very hard. I like the interesting little guitar stuff and the bass stuff. I mean, everything's good. You can't doubt their musical ability. [00:35:31] Speaker C: No, definitely not. [00:35:32] Speaker B: I agree with you. There's a lot of interesting parts. Is it all good as a song is the question. But again, it's only the first time we've heard the verse in the chorus, so let's see, maybe it hits us better the second time around. [00:35:41] Speaker C: Well, it's done it before. [00:35:43] Speaker B: Yeah. This is a short song. This is only 359. It's fairly short. All right, here we go. [00:35:49] Speaker A: It's your talk it's the static it's your mind it's your smell and how you bring it it's your timing, it's alive I know you got a reason doesn't matter I'm your kind It's a sticky situation and I've got an open mind do it, do it now do it Come on, come on, come on, oh, do it, do it, do it what a big surprise right before. [00:36:52] Speaker C: I like that part a lot. Kind of going into it sounds like chorus. Definitely interesting parts as a whole. It's not grabbing me individually. I like all the parts, which is funny. Except for the melody. I'm not really digging the melody too much. Not that it's bad, it's not terrible. As a whole, it feels a bit discombobulated. And I can also see an appreciation for what's going. [00:37:12] Speaker B: Gotta be hard writing this way and just not having much time to figure things out and just doing it and doing song and then going to the next thing probably. I don't think it's bad. Not going to give it bad scores. As far as a song, is it a great song? No, but this interesting parts and if you're musician, maybe you look at it and go, oh, that's pretty cool stuff that they're doing. If you're like a regular listener, maybe you don't get it as easy. I don't know. Now we could be looking through the musician point of view, maybe not through the non musician point of view. So sometimes that kind of skews the way we look at stuff. [00:37:37] Speaker C: Oh, yeah. Musician wise, I appreciate most of what's going on on this as individual parts. There's a lot of really good parts, I think. [00:37:45] Speaker B: What do you think about his drumming? [00:37:47] Speaker C: He's good. There's definitely a lot of similarity to what he's doing on a lot of the groove thing. I mean, clearly he's a good drummer. I don't really listen to corn, I'll be honest with you. But I'm assuming it's probably not easy stuff to play. At one point, I do want to kind of go back and see if I like anything by them. Initially I didn't but taste change, this. [00:38:04] Speaker B: Is true Here we go. Let's continue. [00:38:27] Speaker A: The power and the thought the temptation I must confess I was impressed. You have my full attention now, now, now, now do it, do it Come on, come on, yeah, do it, do it I wanna see you now oh, do it now. [00:39:21] Speaker C: Now, come on. That scream at the end, that was all David Lee Roth. That was so David Lee Roth. I think that kind of the way it sounded. [00:39:31] Speaker B: I like the chorus a little bit better now that I've heard it a couple times, actually. [00:39:34] Speaker C: Me too. I. I agree with that. You. I agree with you. [00:39:36] Speaker B: I was like, wow, that's not a bad chorus. [00:39:38] Speaker C: It could be a little bit of burnout, man. It just. Obviously, this is a long record. What song is this now? [00:39:42] Speaker B: 9 of 12. So it's long. There's no constraints here. You know what I mean? It's just all streaming. So what kind of constraints do you have? [00:39:49] Speaker C: Yeah, exactly. But I mean, this is a project for them too, right? This isn't. Hey, we need to make a record to make hits and make money. I mean, this is nothing to do with that, which is great. This is not a product, it's a project. [00:40:02] Speaker B: I'm gonna say six on everything and five on the melody. I think that's a fair number for all of. I like the guitar tremolo thing at the beginning and the end. I like the drumming. I like his vocals in the chorus. The verse is a little. Not as much, but I think the guitar playing has been great. George Lynx is going to be good generally, whatever he does. It's not like you're gonna go and go, oh, yeah, that's a sucky solo. It could get done better. It's good. I really like it. I'm not a huge George lynch fan as far as guitar playing goes for me, but I do recognize that he's a great guitar player and he's not going to give you joke. What do you think? [00:40:34] Speaker C: I'm gonna say four on the lyrics, five on the melody, and six on everything. I did like it better as it went on. There's possibilities of listening to these things straight through. And I know, and we say this all the time, but I think this record really, really solidifies the point of. Sometimes when you break up a song, you don't necessarily get the full effect of it. And especially here, where we're saying, oh, this part's cool, this part's cool, this part's cool, but it's not gelling Maybe if we sat through a song straight through, like. Oh, I get it now. Now it does kind of. You know what? I. Because of all these weird little things, cool little things that they're doing when they don't sound gelled to us. I'm not saying that they would, but they may sound better to us if we were playing it straight through. [00:41:14] Speaker B: Yeah, I think that does happen. We do break it up. So you never really know how that really affects the way you hear the song or whatever. Well, the next one is long. Six minutes. This is human friction. [00:42:38] Speaker A: When it's dark outside the stars begin to shine so I go outside to see if I can see a sign if you didn't stop Are we the next in line? I like the way you look, yeah these are dangerous times I need an empty soul A place where I can hide A house of holies Fired up inside I'm challenging up the power I'm filling up with life I'm digging out the insides and I'm looking for fighting oh. [00:43:48] Speaker C: Not crazy about the chorus. The rest of it isn't bad. Again, definitely some interesting parts going on. It almost reminds me of kind of a heavy rush song at times. The. The riff, the main riff with the bass and what's going on. Yeah, that chorus is a little. [00:44:02] Speaker B: Yeah, of course it's not great. I like the beginning. I like that guitar with the extra low bass thing going on with it. A bass octave. That was pretty cool. Other than that, I like it so far. It's not dragging. It's already over two minutes through. It doesn't feel like a six minute song. Feels like it's going pretty good. [00:44:17] Speaker C: No. [00:44:19] Speaker B: So I think there is a pattern here, though, in the way his vocals go. Now this is the third song where it had. That stops in the verses, which I do like. You can see they're starting to repeat themselves a little bit. It's a long album. Let's continue. We got a lot to go. Here we go. [00:44:38] Speaker A: When it's bright outside it's hard to see the light so I find a place where I can burn all through the night before behind but now he's on the line I like the way you look these are dangerous, dangerous times I need a An empty soul A place where I can hide A house of glory Fire up inside I'm tired of the power I'm filling up with life I'm singing out the inside and I'm looking for a fight yeah, victory. [00:45:42] Speaker C: And even though I don't like what he's doing in the chorus, I can still appreciate what they're doing. It's definitely not a bad song. I like the music. I like the pre chorus. I think that's my favorite part so far. But in general, like, none of the music has really been bad. I think some of the melody is. These are not simple little things that they seem to be writing. And who knows what comes first? [00:46:01] Speaker B: I like the song so far. The first two songs I was a little sketchy on since that. I mean, I think in general it's been a good album again, it's not an easy thing. It's not an easy listening thing. There's lots of complicated stuff going on here. And you're right, they're not writing this for hits. They're writing this because this is what they want to write. Which there's some kind of freedom in that, I think. [00:46:19] Speaker C: Yeah. I mean, this is obviously three great musicians went into the student said, hey, let's do this. I mean, think about it. They were able to do it three times. A lot of times. Times these. These super groups don't last. They really didn't go past one thing. Clearly there was something there to get them going through two more records. [00:46:33] Speaker B: Curious to hear other stuff now. If it ever comes up, who knows? There's so many albums on the list. We may never get another one of these again. [00:46:38] Speaker C: Yeah, I'm surprised this came up, so. [00:46:40] Speaker B: Yeah, me too. All right, here we go. Solo. [00:47:23] Speaker C: Yeah. Good. The beginning part is like, okay, he's gonna be some two. But they kind of broke it up a little bit in the second part. Like he opened up and I look like that. And it sounds like they're doing. Now, obviously we got a little preview of the chorus, but it sounds like they're playing straight through, which could make it a better chorus. [00:47:37] Speaker B: I wish the second part would have lasted just a little bit longer. I think he just got his stride and then it got cut off really quick. But yeah, it wasn't bad. I liked it. It was good. Am I going to expect bad solos from Georgia Lynch? Probably not. It's a long song. We're only four minutes in. We got another two minutes to go. It's long. Here we. [00:48:24] Speaker A: Sun shining up the power Fill it up with light get up inside Looking for fire yeah Looking for a fight Human friction yeah I'm looking for a fight Human freaking yeah Come on, come on, come on, come on. [00:49:48] Speaker C: It'S cool. I like that. I like the ending. I think the chorus works better without the stop jumping. I can understand why they did it. Before, maybe if they did it only the first time and they kind of did it this way the second time, and that would have been better again. I mean, musically, it's pretty strong. [00:50:02] Speaker B: Yeah. I like the chorus better at the end. All right, why don't you go first? [00:50:05] Speaker C: I'll say six on the lyrics again. We'll say five on the melody because I like half of it. I was gonna say sixes, so I guess I'll stick with that. We'll stick with that for now. What do you think? [00:50:15] Speaker B: I'm gonna do six on the lyrics, five on the melody, and seven everything else. The music's really good. Jordan of the melody being a little weird. I think it's a strong song. [00:50:23] Speaker C: I mean, overall, and it. Honestly, it didn't really feel like six minutes. [00:50:26] Speaker B: Oh, no. 100% felt like four, maybe. [00:50:29] Speaker C: I would say. [00:50:29] Speaker B: Yeah. All right, we're at the end. This is Tranquilize. [00:51:44] Speaker C: So is this an instrumental? [00:51:45] Speaker B: I think so. [00:51:45] Speaker C: You know, it's funny, I was saying to myself, this either sounds like the first song they wrote or the last song they wrote. Doesn't sound like a middle song to me. I could be wrong, though. [00:51:53] Speaker B: Yeah. I wasn't expecting an instrumental. It is a bonus track, so who knows, you know where. [00:51:58] Speaker C: Okay. [00:51:58] Speaker B: Did they add this later or not add this later or whatever they did. But it's cool sounding, though. [00:52:02] Speaker C: Yeah. I mean, that last song sounds like a good album, closer the way it ended and everything. Yeah, I can understand if this is kind of a bonus. [00:52:09] Speaker B: It's pretty cool, though, I have to say. All right, let's continue. Here we go. [00:52:38] Speaker A: It. Sam. [00:53:37] Speaker C: I mean, this is okay. It's not bad, but I could have done without it at this point. [00:53:42] Speaker B: It's interesting sounding, though. I think the drums are doing really cool stuff. [00:53:44] Speaker C: Yeah, no, he's definitely. I mean, the whole thing. It's definitely no bad musicianship on this record, that's for sure. [00:53:49] Speaker B: It's pretty cool. All right, we're almost done. We got a minute left to go. Let's finish it out. Here we go. [00:54:02] Speaker A: Sam. [00:54:42] Speaker C: That's fine. I didn't really do much. [00:54:44] Speaker B: For me, it was a cool little jam, though. I'm glad we got this, even though we didn't know what to expect. Again, super group. You're not too sure how it's going to work out. I think after the first two songs, I kind of liked it a little bit more. Once Gunfight Hit, I thought it was better. I'd have to go back and listen to the first two again to see If I may maybe change my mind about this, but it was a cool album. [00:55:03] Speaker C: I would like to go back at one point and kind of just let it play and see how it hits me if the parts that were cool didn't necessarily fit together. Breaking it up all of a sudden. Yeah, you know what? This. That's actually all ties in and it makes sense to me now. I'm glad we got it. I don't remember if we mentioned or ever talked about them doing anything, but obviously I'm assuming now that if the other two albums were not on the list, they will be on the list, right? [00:55:27] Speaker B: No, they're on the list. They've been on the list. [00:55:28] Speaker C: Okay. They're definitely. [00:55:30] Speaker B: All right, why don't you do your thing? [00:55:31] Speaker C: We are part of the Deep Dive Podcast network. Like I always say, great bunch of guys took us in right away. If you want individual podcasts about bands, check them out. You got Van Halen, you've got Judas Priest, you've got Rush, Tom Petty, Uriah Heap, you name it, it's probably on there. So definitely check him out. And Mark, where can they find this. [00:55:47] Speaker B: On the Interwebs, Rocker Lip Pod on all the social media, go to rockwelletpodcast.com, put in new bets, go to the polls, do the merch. You know what to do. Put us on your auto download and give us five star ratings wherever you rate your podcast because that help us move up the algorithm. Next week will be another wheel spin. What will we get? Will I finally get my grunge album? Probably not, but you never know. Hopefully Frank will be back next week. [00:56:09] Speaker C: Yeah, hopefully. Everything's cool. [00:56:11] Speaker B: So we'll see you next week. [00:56:12] Speaker C: Ciao, ciao. [00:56:13] Speaker B: Later. [00:56:31] Speaker A: It.