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[00:01:03] Speaker B: Foreign.
[00:01:15] Speaker C: Welcome back to another episode of Rock Roulette Podcast. That's right, the crazy ass podcast that took over 1,800 albums, stuck them in a list, stuck them in a wheel. Every other week we spin the wheel. She picks a record for us and we go through it track by track and we talk about the music, the lyrics, the production, the melody and the arrangement and we give it scores. Just a bunch of friends who love music want to do a podcast and everyone who takes this trip of discovery and rediscovery with us every week, we really want to thank you. Keep those numbers consistent and we are a trio. Tonight. We got Frank.
[00:01:46] Speaker A: My name is Frank.
[00:01:53] Speaker C: And I'm sexy.
[00:02:01] Speaker D: Hello everyone.
[00:02:02] Speaker C: We got Mark. Oh hi Mark.
[00:02:04] Speaker A: What's up guys?
[00:02:05] Speaker C: And I'm sad. Ciao Buena Theater. Last week we wrapped up Foreigner's debut album and I think the general consensus was really good musicianship, amazing vocals. When they kept it interesting, I think we were interested. We like the hits, things like Star Rider and whatever the name of the last song was, which Mark and I really appreciated the musicianship. I think that's where we kind of got into it more and maybe something we'd definitely like to revisit. Mark, what was your general take?
[00:02:32] Speaker A: Obviously the hits are the hits and I like those hits. His voice is great. Those couple of songs where they were very deep, purplish, I thought that was pretty cool. I liked it.
[00:02:40] Speaker C: Frank, what about you?
[00:02:41] Speaker D: I was surprised how much I did like it. The vocals were absolutely great. I really did like the production overall. Is this something going to be listening to right away? Probably not, but I'm very happy we got it and I got to enjoy listening to it.
[00:02:52] Speaker C: I'm happy we got it too. And we get to spin the mama wheel tonight, which is always, always exciting. But before we get to the mama Wheel, we go to the baby wheel for the new bets.
[00:03:01] Speaker D: In a world where new music is not Easy to find.
[00:03:08] Speaker B: Welcome to New Bets.
[00:03:20] Speaker A: Okay, here's the new Bets Wheel.
[00:03:35] Speaker D: Cool.
[00:03:35] Speaker C: Aerosmith and Youngblood. My only Angel. I haven't heard anything from this record. I've only heard bad things about it, though. So I am incredibly curious to hear this. Do you guys know anything about it?
[00:03:47] Speaker A: I haven't heard anything about it at all either good nor bad. So I'm cautiously excited.
[00:03:53] Speaker C: Frank, you know anything about this?
[00:03:55] Speaker A: Nope.
[00:03:55] Speaker D: And I'm curious to hear this. I feel like it's a train wreck I see coming a thousand miles away.
[00:04:03] Speaker A: I don't know how his singing is going to be. I know he had problems. Steven Tyler. So we shall see. I haven't really listened to much of Youngblood. I thought he did great on the Ozzy tribute when they had him there. I thought it was great on that last Ozzy show. I thought he was awesome there. I don't know anything about his music, so I have no clue. But let's see. This is Aerosmith and Youngblood. My only angel Will you cry
[00:04:25] Speaker B: if I told you my Gotta leave Gotta, gotta leave you One more time.
Won't rest till I find you Won't rest till I like you One last time Take it when you want it never when you need it Said you won't struggle Call you from a row girl meet up 11 tell me all your problem One last time what do you care if I go on through my Gotta leave gotta leave gotta leave One more time goodbye my own left.
Gotta leave, gotta leave, gotta leave you f you say you want to keep me around your little finger but baby I'm a runner Baby I'm a gunner don't know where you find me I hope that you find me One last time along your desert road I tried to let you go I had to face the fact that I should let you know that after all this time the show was still gone. But I need a little something to remember you why will you cry if I know I do my Gotta leave, gotta leave gotta leave you one more time.
Gotta leave, gotta leave gotta leave you f.
Sam.
One more time.
Hell got.
[00:08:37] Speaker C: It's okay. It definitely sounds like Aerosmith. I think that main riff, the production sounds weird to me, though. Not bad, per se. Almost as if I'm hearing a bootleg copy of it. I don't know if that's just the way it was sounding to me, but I've heard worse.
[00:08:52] Speaker A: I like the riff. There's some effect going on on both of their vocals, which I don't know if it's on Purposely trying to help Steven Tyler sound better. He sounds good, but there's a lot of delay and some other kind of effect going on I don't particularly like too much. What did you think of the drums?
[00:09:09] Speaker C: They were fine. They definitely sound processed, but not too modernly processed. That's what I'm saying. I think the drums kind of sounded like Aerosmith drums.
[00:09:17] Speaker A: Do you know who's playing drums?
[00:09:19] Speaker C: No, it's not. What's his name? Right.
[00:09:21] Speaker A: No. Would you like to know?
[00:09:22] Speaker C: Please. I was going to look it up anyway.
[00:09:23] Speaker A: Matt Sorum.
[00:09:25] Speaker C: They sound to me like the drums on Pump. That's what they remind me of.
[00:09:28] Speaker A: I think my problem with Matt Sorum's playing is the same problem I had with Guns N Rhodes is Mad Sorm. There's very little swing in his playing. I know he's a good drummer. He's just, I don't know, too straight for me. And I think Aerosmith needs a little bit of that backbeat thing, which I don't know if he has. And I missed that when he replaced Steven Adler, because I think Steven Adler had a little bit of speedy kind of drumming going on. Even though they sound good, I don't think the drums sound horrible.
The missing backbeat, it just feels too straight.
[00:09:56] Speaker C: No, I mean, I think they were good for the song. And, I mean, they do kind of remind me of something. Oh, my God. What's his name? The drummer? I can't remember his name now.
[00:10:03] Speaker A: Joey Kramer.
[00:10:04] Speaker C: Joey Kramer. I mean, did kind of remind me of something he would do. But the way they were done and the way they were mixed, I think it was almost like an afterthought in a way. It really wasn't about what was going on there. I'd be curious to see what the rest of it sounds like.
[00:10:19] Speaker D: Man, that whole song sounded like it was AI generated. It literally felt like somebody put into a prompt, say, I want something that sounds like Aerosmith with a little bit of pop, and throw in this.
It wasn't for me. It sounded very manufactured and not a raw sound that I'm used to hearing Aerosmith play.
[00:10:41] Speaker A: I think it's more even than Pump or Get A Grip. It's more polished than even that. And to me, that's pretty polished. Aerosmith.
[00:10:50] Speaker D: Oh, yeah, definitely. Yeah, yeah.
[00:10:52] Speaker A: Does sound very fake. Even though I know it's Aerosmith and I know that they're playing on it, it just feels, I don't know, too manufactured. I think all the vocals are good. I think even Steven Tyler sounds good now, whether he has any help here?
[00:11:05] Speaker D: He has to.
[00:11:06] Speaker A: Which is very possible. Yeah, I think so.
[00:11:08] Speaker D: Because his voice was shot. He almost lost his voice altogether. Couldn't talk anymore. And Matt Stone was playing. Yeah, it's very flat, but it didn't do well here. But in Velvet Revolver was really good. It fit that style of band, I thought.
[00:11:21] Speaker A: Yeah, I didn't like him as much in Guns and Roses. I like Velvet Rover a lot.
[00:11:25] Speaker D: Yeah, he was a perfect fit for that band.
[00:11:28] Speaker A: Well, let us know what you think. Hit us up on the social media and let's rubber stamp this. Here we go.
[00:11:34] Speaker D: In a world where new music is not easy to find.
[00:11:41] Speaker B: Welcome to New Bets.
[00:11:53] Speaker C: As usual. Before we spin the mama wheel, let's do a little roundtable. Mark, if you had a request from her, what would it be?
[00:12:00] Speaker A: I don't know. I think I want an album, like you were saying, for a while, of a band that we know. A non famous album similar to Foreigner. We didn't get foreigner 4. We got the first Foreigner. So I would like a band that we know and maybe an album we don't know a lot of.
[00:12:14] Speaker C: Frank, what about you?
[00:12:15] Speaker D: I think I might want to listen to something like. Like a super group, an audio slave, A Velvet Revolver or Temple of the Dog. Like some kind of super group. That'll be interesting.
[00:12:28] Speaker C: Yeah, I mean, I guess I'll stick with my, like what you said. Mark, my other thing was I feel we haven't like. Yeah, Tiger Tales is like super glam, but it was technically 1990, so maybe something big and glammy that we haven't gotten yet would be cool.
[00:12:42] Speaker A: All right, are we ready for the Wheel?
[00:12:44] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:12:45] Speaker A: All right, here we go.
[00:13:06] Speaker C: Cool Soup by Blind Melon I do have this. I haven't listened to it in a while, though. I love the first one. I actually saw them live for five bucks. They were great. Before this album came out. Actually, it was only the first one. I still have my Blind Melon concert shirt somewhere. It's got big ass hole in the sleeve. Do you guys. Mark, you know anything about this one?
[00:13:26] Speaker A: I heard lots of people like it, but it was critically not received very well. Well, it could be a good album. I know he died a couple of months after this came out, so it kind of stalled the sales. I think it sold less than 300,000 copies.
[00:13:39] Speaker C: I'm in elite class because I haven't.
[00:13:41] Speaker A: Just don't know much about it. I probably heard the single, which is Galaxy. I think remembering hearing that, I remember the first time I saw him. He was in The Guns and Roses video was. That was Don't Cry right When they're on top of the roof.
[00:13:53] Speaker C: I think so, yeah.
[00:13:55] Speaker D: Yep, that's what it is.
[00:13:57] Speaker A: What do you know about this?
[00:13:58] Speaker D: Not a whole lot, to be honest.
[00:14:00] Speaker A: This is 1995, August 15th. Linked 4814 label capital producer Andy Wallace.
So he's produced Linkin Park, Slayer, Ven, Sevenfold, Jeff Buckley, he's worked on those records. I don't know if he produced. He produced Run dmc, Aerosmith collaboration, Walk this Way. He worked at the Cult, Prince, Bruce Springsteen, Sepultura, Nirvana, Jeff Buckley, Sonic Youth, Rage against the Machine, Guns N Roses, Linkin Park, Paul McCartney, avenged sevenfold, and Many.
I'm excited. I don't remember this that much. I know it came out. I know it just basically disappeared after he died. Obviously without any push from the company. After he passed away, it probably didn't go anywhere. Would it have gone anywhere? Who knows? I don't know. Let's do this. Okay, so the first song on Soup is Galaxy, hello Goodbye
[00:14:51] Speaker B: I'm in a random frame bomb bodied by indecision Where a man like me can easily let the day get out of control down this far in the corner I'm pushed hard upon the bottom But I'd rather be caught around now Instead of those say around the month of June but if I can leave a little bit of explanation and anywhere in the world I choose to go I haven't made.
[00:15:44] Speaker C: Lyrically it's good. I don't remember specifically hearing this because Galaxy is a lead off single which obviously doesn't sound like this. This definitely reminds me a lot of the New Orleans funerals that they show when they go through the cemeter reason the band is playing. I mean, just a quirky little intro really. I mean, what else can you say about this?
[00:16:04] Speaker A: You know what I say?
[00:16:05] Speaker C: What?
[00:16:05] Speaker A: Heroin is good drugs.
I think you have to be a little self absorbed to do something like that. That's just my opinion. Not that it's bad. I just don't understand what he's trying to do. Maybe when I hear the rest of the song I'll get an idea, but it feels like somebody who's really self absorbed in what he's doing and think this is a good idea to start something like this.
[00:16:23] Speaker C: Listen, where else are you going to put about this? I think it's a kind of a cool little trip because you don't know what's coming. I guess you do know what's coming.
[00:16:31] Speaker A: I don't know.
[00:16:32] Speaker D: I Think we're being set up for a good story here. Like Sabino said, it sounded like one of those New Orleans style funerals. Where is this going to take us? I think it's a pretty well known fact he struggled with addiction. Is that funeral him saying goodbye to his addictions and his habits, or him saying goodbye to the fact that he can never be sober?
[00:16:53] Speaker A: I do not know, but I will read the words for hello. Goodbye. I'm entering a frame bombarded by indecision where a man like me can easily let the day get out of control down this far in the quarter I'm pushed hard upon the border But I'd rather be caught around now instead of, oh, say around the month of June. But if I can leave with a little bit of explanation and anywhere in the world I choose to go, I'll have it made. I mean, I guess it's fine. Maybe it's a little foreshadow too, which is kind of scary. Similar to what happened with Lane Staley.
[00:17:21] Speaker C: He was found dead on the bus. Wasn't what's his name also found dead on the bus?
[00:17:25] Speaker A: Lane Staley?
[00:17:26] Speaker C: No, stp.
[00:17:27] Speaker A: I think it was a hotel room.
[00:17:29] Speaker C: Oh.
[00:17:29] Speaker A: Anytime they die right after an album like this and you get something like this, it feels like it's just a foreshadow of what's going to happen.
[00:17:36] Speaker C: Yeah, I mean, I remember hearing you, dad, I was pretty upset because, I mean, I really like them.
[00:17:40] Speaker A: Yeah, I like his voice too.
[00:17:41] Speaker C: Yeah, really good. Lot of soul. They have a lot of feel. The first album was like all feel.
[00:17:46] Speaker A: That's why I'm glad we got this, because it's not the popular album. So I want to see what happens in the non popular album. All right, let's continue. Here we go.
[00:18:05] Speaker B: Is this the place that I want to be?
Is it you I want to see?
Holding on, hold it high show me everything and you leave it now yeah, you leave it now you're leaving me with it Hating identity But I keep only coming here I'm standing in this state and I'm never really sure if you take what I'm saying the right way But I'm not upon the right brain but the rocket blade is as discreet as I can muster up a be because the Cadillac is sitting in the back Me, I'm all at home in my galaxy oh, yeah,
[00:19:09] Speaker C: yeah. Great.
I remember when I first heard this, I was like, oh, this is different. The chorus is very them. Very much like the first album. This was a little bit different. I think production is Good. Everything sounds good. I think it's a really good song.
[00:19:23] Speaker A: I think it's okay. I'm not too sure if I like the chorus that much. It feels a little bit much. But you say this is what they do. I'm only very peripherally knowing Blind Melon. I don't really know if this is what they do, but if you say is what they do, I have to take your word for it. I just think it's a little bit long for the chorus. I like the words.
I like how we got Galaxy in there, which supposedly is about his car, but this is supposedly about heroin addiction.
[00:19:48] Speaker C: Well, I mean, it sounds like. I know he mentions a Cadillac in the back. It isn't me. More at home in my galaxy. Maybe it's that whole stardom thing. They kind of hit it a bit. I mean, really, with the one song. I mean, unless I'm mistaken, I don't remember if there was another major massive song they had on the first album, other than no Rain.
[00:20:05] Speaker A: I don't remember. I just remember no Rain. There could have been another single after. It's possible. I have to look it up.
[00:20:10] Speaker C: I know it all because I loved it.
All things considered. I mean, that definitely pushed them into
[00:20:15] Speaker A: the limelight, which probably didn't do much for his heroin addiction either.
[00:20:18] Speaker C: I'm sure I'm gonna have to take
[00:20:19] Speaker D: your word for it. Like, I'm not very familiar outside of that one hit. Maybe one other song, but, you know, so far it's okay. Only give it a little more listen before passing any thoughts.
[00:20:29] Speaker A: Okay. Lyrics. Verse 1 Is this the place that I want to be? Is it you who I want to see? Holding on, hold it high show me everything Pre Chorus and you're leaving me yeah, you're leaving me. You're leaving me With a hated identity Chorus But I keep on a comment here and standing in this state well, I'm never really sure if you'll take what I'm saying the right way, but I'm not appalled or afraid. Verbal pocket play is as discreet as I can muster up to be because the Cadillac that's sitting in the back, it isn't me. Oh no, no, no, no it isn't me I at home in my galaxy oh yeah I mean, I think the lyrics are pretty good. I just don't know if there's very much of a catchiness to the chorus. Maybe that's just the way he wanted to do it. I don't know. But let's continue and see what it does. It's a short song. It's only 351, so we're halfway through already. Here we go.
[00:21:20] Speaker B: Can I do the things I want to do and I don't do because of you?
And I'll take a left and I'll second guess into total mess Leaving there yeah, you're leaving there.
You're leaving me with a hated But I keep on coming here I'm standing in the When I'm always reassuring the situation's getting carried away But I'm not up all around your A purple marketplace as the screen desire because my Cadillac the sitting in the back it isn't me no, no, no no it isn't me no, no, no, it isn't me no, it isn't me no, it isn't me no, it isn't me no, it is me Galaxy.
[00:22:38] Speaker C: I mean, I personally think it's a really good starter. I was going to the record no matter what, but when I heard this, I was like, okay, cool.
I mean, I don't know if we grew on you guys, but I think it's good.
[00:22:48] Speaker A: The first part of the chorus I like. Then it devolves a little bit for me. I think there is possibly a better song here. Now, whether his drug addiction had anything to do with the way this is all working out, I don't know. I'm going to pass judgment, but I want to see what the rest of the album does. I vaguely remember this from being the single.
[00:23:06] Speaker C: Yeah, I remember the video too. They're like driving well.
[00:23:08] Speaker A: Yeah, there's lots of references to cars here, so, yes, I would assume they would be driving here.
[00:23:12] Speaker C: Like fake, you know. It's like all over the place from what I remember.
[00:23:16] Speaker A: It's interesting whether I would put this back on and listen to this again. I'm not sure. There's parts that I like. I like some of the lyrics. I just don't think the chorus is great. I like the beginning and then it just feels like it's a run on sentence to me. And if you're trying to to capture the same people from no Rain, it's probably not going to happen. Now, there may be other songs on here that are similar or have a little more of a poppy chorus. I don't hate it. It's discovery for me. So I have never heard it or I've heard it very little enough where I don't remember or know that I heard it before. Verse two is, can I do the things I want to do that I don't do because of you and I'll Take a left and I'll second guess into total mess. Pre chorus is the same. Chorus changes a little bit but I keep on a comment here and standing in the state when I'm always reassured the situation is getting carri away and I think then the rest of it is the same and then the no, it isn't me. No, it isn't me. Toward the end I'm in the Franco first because I'm not sure what I want to do with this.
[00:24:09] Speaker D: I'm going to say boat man. I think that we're being set up for something really good here. Like it's going to be. The rest of the album is going to be about something self reflecting what I think there is a direct analogy here with the Ford Galaxy, which was always considered a futuristic car. Spacey car, I don't know, this is growing on me a little bit. I'm going to give the lyrics, can see it going somewhere. I'm going to give the lyrics an eight, the medley a seven, the production and the music, I'll give those seven, I'll give sevens the rest of the way. But the lyric, I'm gonna give it
[00:24:41] Speaker A: a mark, I think the lyrics are okay, I'm gonna give them a 7. I like some of the stuff in there, the melody I'm not too on with. I'm gonna give that a 6. Music a 6. Arrangement middle of the road for me, 6 and production I thought was good. 7. I don't hate it, I just haven't heard enough. Maybe if I heard it a bunch of times, times it would be easier for me to listen to. But right off the bat I'd be hard pressed to say I want to listen to the rest of this. By hearing this SAP, I will say
[00:25:06] Speaker C: eight on the production and seven on everything else. I think it's produced incredibly well. Sounds great, crisp. I think it's a great song and the more it went, the more I liked it, the more I remembered how much I liked it when I liked it back then.
[00:25:17] Speaker A: Okay, let's continue. The next one is two by four.
[00:25:31] Speaker B: More, But I wanna feel.
[00:26:14] Speaker C: You will have a lot of guitar in this album, Mark, I'll tell you that for sure. I think it's good. I have my eyes closed, I'm just grooving. I think they have a lot of feel and soul which I really appreciate about them. I totally remember this one as well. I'm digging it. I don't know about you, Mark, I
[00:26:27] Speaker A: like this one than the first one, although the riff is almost very similar. Galaxy Or. Or just the feel of the way that's playing. Maybe that's just their thing.
[00:26:36] Speaker C: Yes, they have a thing. And you'll hear more of their thing from what I remember.
[00:26:41] Speaker A: And it doesn't look like they say 2x4 at all, which I kind of like. I like this better than the first one.
[00:26:45] Speaker D: This can very easily be a Jonas Joplin song.
[00:26:48] Speaker C: I can hear that it has that
[00:26:50] Speaker D: bluesy sound, that raspy voice. His voice does water raspy in this one here.
Liking it a lot of guitars, like you said.
[00:27:00] Speaker C: Yeah. When Janet sang, you felt what she was thinking. And I feel like you feel what he's singing.
[00:27:04] Speaker D: Oh, yeah.
[00:27:05] Speaker A: I do think he's engaged in what he's singing. I do like his voice. I think musician wise, they're doing a great job again, since I'm not too familiar with other stuff that they've done. And I just put it against no rain, it's a little different. So the refrain is, I'm talking, I'm talking I'm talking to myself more Verse, one needle, fetal. Someone's pouring one gravy all over me and you see that Synthetic therapy don't you know it seems to be so unappealing but oh, what a feeling Chorus. I wish that you would stop spitting when you're talking to me I'm not too sure what the 2x4 is right now. Because you want to hit him with a 2x4. I don't know what the 2x4 means.
Stop spitting on me. I'm gonna hit you with a 2x4.
[00:27:46] Speaker C: All right, come back.
[00:27:47] Speaker A: All right, let's continue. Here we go.
[00:27:54] Speaker B: The way. Oh, yeah but you see now I too barely get out into the lovely light of day oh, I'll do anything that you say oh, I'll do anything that you say But I wish that you would stop spinning when you're talking to me.
I'm talking to myself more I'm talking to myself more I'm talking to myself more I'm talking to myself more I'm talking to myself more I'm talking to myself more I'm talking to myself more.
One fire.
[00:29:23] Speaker C: What do you think of the overall guitar playing, Mark?
[00:29:26] Speaker A: I like the guitar playing, actually. It's very different. It's very complicated. Is it a word I want? There's lots going on. It's not just chords. Plays a lot behind things, which I remember from Norain, too. There was a lot of guitar playing in that too. And they break it up with a weird bridge before it goes into the solo. Actually, I like the music behind the solo better than the solo. I like that they changed it up into that riff. I like that riff a lot. Yeah, this is a better song for me.
[00:29:47] Speaker C: Yeah. I think the guitar playing is tight and warm. There's a warmth to their music, which I like. To me, it is a close your eyes music and just groove.
[00:29:56] Speaker A: And it's very different than lots of other stuff. You would never think that there's somebody else. They have a very unique style and what they do. His singing and the way the musicianship is behind it is very distinctive, which is always a good thing. You know who this is right off the bat.
[00:30:10] Speaker D: Yeah.
Like Mark, I was trying to figure out here, just reading, what can that 2x4 reference be coming from? And so far the only thing I've been able to catch up on it has to do with some kind of shock to the spiritual sense. A sudden waking awaking and realization. And read the lyrics. That's what it kind of reads like almost.
[00:30:29] Speaker A: This is obviously another Jug riddle, his song, because in the first verse he says, someone's pouring war gravy all over me. You see that? Synthetic therapy. Supposedly that's about methadone injections trying to get you off of heroin.
[00:30:40] Speaker C: Yeah. He went to rehab twice and I read that they hired a counselor for this tour and they fired him after a week.
[00:30:46] Speaker A: Probably needed to be around a little bit longer.
[00:30:48] Speaker C: Yeah. Unfortunately we have a lot of cocaine and heroin tinges in this podcast. I've noticed. That is one thing. Maybe we should start choosing things by drugs instead of type of music because, my God, we get so many drug related things. Things and sadness.
[00:31:04] Speaker A: And so many people from the 90s didn't make it out of the 90s. So many singers in general, almost all of them were gone. Eddie Vedder's still around.
Whether it had to be doing drugs or depression or whatever, not many people got out alive. Or if they did get out, they didn't last even if they got out.
[00:31:19] Speaker C: No, the 90s was the battlefield.
[00:31:21] Speaker A: It was a lot of depressing music and a lot of people had a lot of issues that were coming out in their music that they couldn't get away from. And getting so big probably didn't help their drug addiction because now they can afford more drugs than they could before and easier access, those things that come with being a big rock star. Unfortunately, something just couldn't get out of it. I think this is going to be another album similar to Dirt, where it's going to be autobiographical about the whole situation. And how he was doing it and what he was going through. Yeah, this is just a little more upbeat. It's not. It's not as depressing as Alison Chains music.
[00:31:54] Speaker C: Yeah, they're not like that. They're just not that kind of band. They're a groovy jam kind of band.
[00:31:58] Speaker A: But the funny part about it, it's all the same, though. All the lyrics are just. Is dark.
[00:32:02] Speaker C: Yeah, well, I mean, I guess when you're that addicted and it takes up so much of your time, it's almost like, okay, well, what do I write about? What do I know? You write what you know, right.
[00:32:11] Speaker A: They say first two and inside, air dry. I might want to go another way but you see now I'm too pale to get out and there's a bridge which is new. Into the lovely light of day oh, I'll do anything you say oh, I'll do anything you say and the chorus again, and then the refrain is, I'm talking to myself more. Does that about six times. And one by one, then the solo. And now we're coming out of the solo into some other place part that has nothing to do with anything.
So here we go.
[00:34:13] Speaker C: The baseline and the progression reminds me a little bit of whipping post. Kind of like a sped up whipping post.
[00:34:19] Speaker A: Yeah, I'd like to base a lot.
[00:34:20] Speaker C: Yeah, it's good. My only complaint would be that one part that was done a little bit too much. I think that if he would have traded off with some different things in between, it went from him singing to that part to nothing, then back to that part. That's really my only complaint. Because I think, again, overall, this is a pretty solid song. I like it.
[00:34:40] Speaker A: It's very frenetic. And I could see if you were a fan or your Rolling Stone, whoever gave this bad reviews, you're coming off no Rain and you're expecting that again. And you get this.
[00:34:51] Speaker C: Yeah. If you listen to the first record, no Rain sticks out. It's really not like that. It has that groove. No Rain is like this Diddy kind of song. And there's no ditties on there other than that. It's not where you listen to the other songs. You say, oh, my God, this sounds nothing like the vibe is there. But there's nothing as happy as that song. That is by far the happiest song on that record.
[00:35:15] Speaker A: I can see that the addiction here, though, is fueling and pushing these songs in the direction they're going to. Because it's weird arrangement and just weird stuff happening. I think that has to do with probably his addiction and how it's manifesting itself as the music and lyrics.
[00:35:31] Speaker C: If you listen to the first one, this is kind of their vibe.
[00:35:34] Speaker A: All right, well, I have to assume that the rest of it's gonna be like this. So the only other lyrics are man to man, stand to stand two by four, and then talking to myself in that little guitar thing that happened toward the end. Sav, why don't you go first?
[00:35:45] Speaker C: I'll say six on the lyrics, six on arrangement only because of that one part, and then seven on everything else. I could say eight on prediction production. Again, I think it's produced incredibly well. I think it sounds great.
[00:35:57] Speaker B: Mark.
[00:35:57] Speaker A: I think six on the lyrics, six on the melody, and, yeah, seven on everything else. For me, I think it's very well produced. I thought the musicianship was very well done. I think it's an interesting song. If you're a fan that only knows no rain and you never listen to the rest of the album, I'm assuming this is going to be a little bit of shock to the system for you.
[00:36:13] Speaker C: Well, the first one probably was the people too.
[00:36:15] Speaker A: Probably. I can understand this is not as straight ahead as what people might think it would be. I think that's where it catches me a little bit off guard, too. Frank.
[00:36:24] Speaker D: I'm gonna give this sevens across. I do like the lyrics. Again, as I told you, for me, this is telling of a story. I always enjoy that tell a story, especially one that's personal. Really liking the lyrics, the melody. It's okay. It's fine. Everything is well produced. The music is great. The guitars are great. I like in the drums. I'm liking everything about it. So sevens for me.
[00:36:45] Speaker A: Yeah, it's Steve and it's Quintuple seven.
[00:36:49] Speaker C: Nikki Titty baby.
[00:36:50] Speaker A: Okay. The next song is Vernie
[00:36:57] Speaker B: Sam.
All the time began just in your face.
Got to have your own space Playing the collection of glass Chicken over me what a God you.
[00:38:05] Speaker C: I may not like it as the first two. I really love the vibe. Anytime these songs are going on, I'm just sitting here with my eyes closed and just grooving. I just. I think it's still pretty solid. It has a really good vibe to it.
[00:38:15] Speaker A: I think this is my favorite song so far. Far. I do like the guitar playing. I like the way everything is very spacey. I just think it's much better song arrangement wise. It just feels like it flows a little bit better. Or some of the other ones had a little bit of frenetic going on. This is. Doesn't feel that way. I like this one so far.
[00:38:34] Speaker D: I don't know. For some reason I'm thinking Joe Cocker, Little Help of My Friends.
[00:38:39] Speaker A: That's interesting.
[00:38:39] Speaker C: I can hear that.
That intro.
[00:38:43] Speaker D: Exactly.
[00:38:44] Speaker A: Okay. Verse 1. Is it the way you're speaking? Is it because I'm peeking? Twisting your face, thumb in hand Chorus. But you got to have your own space to play in A collection of glass chickens O Vernie, what a garden you have. I have no idea what that means.
[00:38:58] Speaker C: I read it's about his grandmother.
[00:39:00] Speaker A: Oh, okay. I'm assuming his grandmother's name is Vernie. She got glass chickens and she had a garden, but maybe she had glass chickens in a case, like she collected chickens. I don't know.
[00:39:09] Speaker C: Yeah, it could be like little knickknacks.
[00:39:10] Speaker A: Let's continue.
[00:39:14] Speaker B: Baby, find me your lip maybe Come. Okay.
Christmas.
But I know I cannot deny the beauty if I had a heart One I would want it to feel like.
Roaming through the COVID jar Pickles Never open since 1983 Peanuts in a pile now it's down the aisle me.
I wish I could feel I wish I could feel Wish I could feel I wish I could feel Wish I could feel Little more like oh, I want to feel I want to feel a little more like.
[00:41:15] Speaker C: Yeah, they kind of did that weird little thing. I like it. It's in and out too. That's a short song. How short is that?
[00:41:21] Speaker A: 315.
[00:41:22] Speaker C: Thought it was even shorter. This is what I really liked about the first album. It's all about feel. There's a feel to them, which I love. When bands have feel and a warmth to them. It's like a 70s album.
[00:41:34] Speaker A: They definitely have a style. I'm not sure I like what they do to songs.
He is a little weird. And what he does on his melody and the parts that he puts in at a no place, which I understand. And being a musician, I kind of like that part of it, But I definitely think it's probably a harder listen for someone who really wants a formulaic song. If you want a song that's very formulaic, this is definitely not that I think you have to be okay with it being a little. A little weird, but I do like it. Verse 2. Maybe it's the snuff under your lip or maybe caramel cake covered in Christmas oh, a flower you are to my land But I Chorus know I cannot deny the beauty if I had a heart I would want to be like Vernie's what a heart that she has. And the outro is roaming through the cupboard Jar of pickles never opened since 1983 penis in a pile and Elvis down the aisle singing gallantly I wish I could be I wish I could be I wish I could be I wish I could be I wish I could be A little more like Vernie oh, I want to be I want to be a little more like Vernie. And if it's about as great grandmother. I like the sentiment in that, but it's definitely a weird song. I like it, but it's weird.
[00:42:42] Speaker C: Why don't you go. I don't think you've gone first yet.
[00:42:44] Speaker A: I'm gonna say six on the lyrics. The melody's okay. I'm gonna give that a six. Musicianship's been good. The bass has been in your face through this whole record. 7 arrangement. I'm not too sure I like the end part, the way it changed up. I'm gonna say 6. And production. 7. Production's been good. Regardless of whether I think the songs could be arranged a little bit differently and not as weird. I would say that production's been great. All saf.
[00:43:10] Speaker C: Yeah. Say six on the lyrics.
Production is great, man. I'll say eight on the production. The vibe and the feel is so good. Melody has six on the melody, six on arrangement, and seven on the music. I'm okay going back to this and listening to everything so far, but again, I am a fan of the band. Right.
[00:43:28] Speaker D: Six on lyrics, six on melody, six on arrangement, seven on production, seven on music. This song. I appreciate sentiment, but I don't find it as good as the previous ones that we listened to so far. And I don't know how I feel fits into the overall scheme of the storytelling.
[00:43:41] Speaker A: I don't think it does. He just does whatever he wants. He just writes songs. Feels like there's not as much thought about or there is too much thought. I'm not sure how you take that. Is he really thinking about this and this is how he's constructing the song, or does he just jam together? I'm not too sure. It could be either way.
[00:43:57] Speaker C: I think it does paint a picture though, if you think about a grandmother.
[00:44:00] Speaker A: If you want to call this alternative. It is alternative. It's. You have to think a little bit more. Sometimes not as palatable. His melodies sometimes are a little off putting. There's not a lot of catchy chorus, sing along ability to the choruses, even though they are interesting. The casual person who came into no rain, even if they didn't listen to the other album, and they just like, oh, I like that. No Rain Song. Maybe I'll like this album.
[00:44:23] Speaker C: Yes.
[00:44:24] Speaker A: It's not going to be an easy listen.
[00:44:25] Speaker D: One thought that came to mind is May, perhaps again we're talking about. So far, what I'm gathering is the song. He's talking about his addictions, all his struggles, and may, perhaps what he's trying to say. Say he's hoping to be just like his grandmother. Decent person, simple life.
[00:44:39] Speaker A: It could be. Or may have nothing to do with that.
[00:44:41] Speaker D: Yeah, it may have nothing to do with that.
[00:44:43] Speaker C: Well, I should forget. I mean, if he loved her, I mean, she could have been a beacon for him.
[00:44:48] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, I'm sure.
[00:44:49] Speaker D: Yeah, there you go. Maybe she was the beacon in all of this.
[00:44:52] Speaker C: I mean, not everything has to be about the same subject, right? It's not like a concept album.
[00:44:57] Speaker A: No, but when you're in the throes of addiction that much, it tends to be a concept album, even if you don't want it to be.
[00:45:01] Speaker C: Yeah, well, wait till you, you know, see the subject in the next one. Then you be like, wait a second.
[00:45:05] Speaker A: Oh, great. Well, this is 1 minute, 58 seconds. This is skinned.
[00:45:13] Speaker C: You know, the little.
[00:45:15] Speaker B: Would be nice to see a little dumber like you walking around with a
[00:45:18] Speaker C: couple of hammers like that.
[00:45:20] Speaker B: At least that Gene would.
That Gene was a pretty good fellow. You know, I'll make a shoehorn out of your shin I'll make a lampshade of durable purple skin oh, don't you know that I'm always feeling able When I sit home and I'm carving out your navel I'm just sitting here Carving out your navel when will I realize that this kid I'm in hate is in my end? And when will the kill be too much of meat for me to hurt? Hide.
[00:46:02] Speaker C: Anybody who knows anything about serial killers. And one of the most inspirational serial killers for Norman Bates, what's his name from Silence of the Lambs. Leatherface knows what this song is about.
Yeah, it's about Ed Gein.
[00:46:18] Speaker A: You know, though, it's not the only song that has something to do about corpses, because Stone Temple P's Plush has to do about that, too.
[00:46:25] Speaker C: Yeah, I didn't know that until. Until you said it. And then I started thinking about it like I was like the. Does this song mean. I never looked it up, except this
[00:46:35] Speaker A: song is just very positive and happy and poppy and bouncy. Yeah, that's really a big dichotomy between the bounciness, the poppiness and then the lyrics about making a lampshade on the skin.
[00:46:48] Speaker D: Okay, I'm kind of confused right now.
Very poppy sounding. I'm not too sure how it fits in.
[00:46:56] Speaker C: I think this is a goof. This is just them having fun, having a goof. Especially considering how short the song is.
[00:47:03] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:47:04] Speaker C: And the way it starts out, too, with all of the speaking. This is just a. Hey, it.
[00:47:08] Speaker A: Oh, boy. All right. Verse 1 I'll make a shoehorn out of your shin I'll make a lampshade of durable skin and oh, don't you know that I'm always feeling able When I'm sitting home and I'm carving out your navel I'm just sitting here carving out your navel Chorus when will I realize that the skin I'm in hey, it isn't mine and when will the kill be too much meat from me to hide? It's very graphic. It's this dark lyric hidden. This very upbeat, poppy, acoustic song.
It's ridiculous. Okay, let's continue.
[00:47:38] Speaker B: Hey, I could really use a couple of hands to complete one A hell of a plan stand oh, and don't you know that I am caught here in the middle Making rib cages in the coffee table I'm just. And making them into coffee tables and when will I realize that this can happen in hey, it is in mine and when will the thrill be Too much a meat for me to find anymore because you know I can't hide it oh, how hard I try but this is just a shape I I'm in Although I know I can't have it oh, how hard I tried but this is just a shape I'm in oh yeah oh yeah.
[00:48:43] Speaker C: I'm going to say Drugs wrote that song.
[00:48:45] Speaker A: I don't even even think so.
[00:48:47] Speaker C: I don't know. Well, they said that he was interested in serial killers and reading. I had my serial killer face too, at one point where I just watched, like every documentary and I find them
[00:48:56] Speaker A: interesting just because of the craziness and how those people justify what they do. But he just wrote a little diddy song about Ed Game, the serial killer.
[00:49:06] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:49:06] Speaker A: Okay, let me finish reading this. Verse 2 Hey, I could really use a couple of hands to complete one. Hello, Plant stand oh, and don't you know that I'm caught here in the middle Making rib cages into coffee tables I'm just making them into coffee tables Chorus when will I realize that the skin I'm in hey, it isn't mine and when the thrill will be too much meat for me to find anymore and the outro is oh, because you know I can't hide but oh, how hard I try but this is just the shape I'm in Although I know I can't hide but oh, how hard I try but this is just the shape I'm in oh, yeah oh, yeah. Oh has taken an interesting turn. Sav, why don't you go first?
[00:49:44] Speaker C: I don't know what to say. I guess five on the lyrics. I like the melody though, so I'm gonna say six on the melody. The music is fine. I'll say six on the music. Production is good. I'll say seven on that. And the ranger is fine. It's six. If I'm gonna skip a song so far on this side, this might be it. It's funny to say it's harmless because it's so not, but it is.
Frank.
[00:50:06] Speaker D: I don't know what this was.
[00:50:10] Speaker A: I don't know.
[00:50:10] Speaker D: I'm gonna give it sixes. Maybe it just. Just feels. I don't know, man. I'm confused by it.
[00:50:16] Speaker A: It just feels like a filler song
[00:50:17] Speaker D: more than anything to me.
[00:50:18] Speaker C: I agree. I think it's a goof.
[00:50:20] Speaker D: You think so?
[00:50:20] Speaker C: This is a song you either put here or you put at the end.
[00:50:23] Speaker B: All right.
[00:50:24] Speaker D: Or hidden track at the end.
[00:50:25] Speaker C: It's one of those. I feel you kind of break up because of how heavy the first three were. Kind of. In a sense. I mean, that Vernie technically isn't as heavy a topic as the first two, but when you think about somebody who's basically going to die soon singing about his grandmother as maybe the only last light of hope in his life is it does become sad. And all of a sudden you get this mark.
[00:50:47] Speaker A: I think I'm gonna do five on the lyrics, six on the melody, six on the music, six on the arrangement, and seven on production. It's an interesting song. He's making light of a really serious topic in a very light hearted song. And then he has the comb at the end playing the melody. Okay, whatever. I mean, again, like you said, drugs do some great shit for you, because I don't know who normally would do this, but again, it's not the first time I've heard serial killers be in songs. And I don't think he' making out like this is a good thing. He's just basically saying what this guy did.
But still, it's. It's a weird kind of song to put serial killer lyrics. So at least Plush is a little dark, which makes it feel a little like that's okay in the scheme of what it is. But this is just very.
Oh, and I'm skinning people and I'm wearing it. Oh, nice. Well, let's hope this changes up a little bit. This is Toes across the Floor.
[00:51:46] Speaker B: Doesn't anybody feel that all these killers should be killed all these healers should be healed so all these baggies can be filled and now tell me why you might lie if I'm home firm and feel the right to lie.
[00:52:50] Speaker C: I really like this and stuff. It really reminds me of something from the first record. I'm digging it.
[00:52:54] Speaker A: I wish that the verse had two more lines at the end because I don't really like the way it comes out of that into the chorus. I don't hate the chorus. I like the verse melody. I like the way he's singing it. But then he does doesn't have two more lines. I think he just it up for me. I don't know. That's my opinion. I like the music. The music's really good.
[00:53:11] Speaker D: Great bounce back song so far. I like in the lyrics. I'm liking the music. I'm liking the funk about it. I'm glad that they came back with this verse one.
[00:53:18] Speaker A: Doesn't anyone feel that all these killers should be killed and all these healers should be healed so all these beggars can be filled and now tell me why am I to lie if I'm holding firm and feel the right chorus to lie beside this dog of mine and let that perverted thought really run through my mind so through my mind I don't know what the he's saying there.
[00:53:36] Speaker C: Not sure yet.
[00:53:38] Speaker A: I'm not sure yet.
All right, let's continue. And have you noticed that most of the time the chorus is not the name of the song? Although Vernie did, I guess, was there. It just feels like he doesn't emphasize the name of the song in the choruses very much. Even if it is there, it's not emphasized at all, which is cool. It's okay a couple of times, but eventually you'd like to have some kind of a chorus that's a little more memorable. And I think that hurts the record a little bit because there's nothing to latch onto. And I think that's an issue. You should. That's the way they write.
[00:54:06] Speaker C: I latch on to the vibe. That's what I latch on to. And I think that's what carries me through. I understand what you're saying. There aren't choruses. You're like, yeah, I'm gonna go back and sing that. You're a love bomb, baby.
[00:54:17] Speaker A: They're a vi.
It's not much catchiness in the chorus, so let's see. Let's see how it goes. Here we go.
[00:54:31] Speaker B: Same as I was before and knowing sad I'm feeling giddy Always wrong for never giving myself that uninvaded door so now I take a little glue I'll put together a new glitter dream for you so oh, I can start sitting so pre.
Instead of sitting here, now sit. We're just sitting here. Now I sit here.
Nothing deep in here.
Where am I lo If I can't lay my head beside this God of my.
Friend in time.
[00:56:16] Speaker C: In and out. How long was that one? That was really short too.
[00:56:19] Speaker A: 307.
[00:56:21] Speaker C: I really like that one.
[00:56:22] Speaker A: I like the overall groove of the song and the overall vibe. Vibe of the song. I like the music and I like the rhythm. What they're using for the chorus. It's just very unmemorable. Maybe I'm looking at through the Eyes of Narain and that's very catchy and very trippy and it has a vibe. So do I think you have to do a whole album of that song? No. Be nice to have one though.
I could see people not wanting to listen to this. I appreciate the musicianship, being a musician. I appreciate that kind of stuff. Just that can't hold me through whole album though. I need some melody. I need a little bit of catchiness to make meld together with the weird vibey songs. I don't know. Does that make sense?
[00:57:03] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:57:03] Speaker A: Frank, go first.
[00:57:05] Speaker D: I'm gonna go sevens across for this one. For me, it has a really porno for pyros feel to it. He's. To me, he sounds very much like Perry Farrell in the song. So I like it for that. I like the weirdness. I think it was a great comeback from the other songs that we heard.
[00:57:20] Speaker B: So.
[00:57:21] Speaker D: Really like it. So for me, seven's across here.
[00:57:23] Speaker C: Yes, that's right. It's me.
I know I've been gone for a long time, but I'm back and it's quintuple seven. Nikki Titty Baby.
[00:57:31] Speaker A: I'll go next. I like a lot of pieces of this. I like a lot of stuff in there. It's starting to grade on me that there's nothing I can latch on to go, oh, I like this or I like that piece. I like all the little pieces. But so far I haven't had a full song where everything comes together yet. It just feels like A lot of pieces to me, and it's becoming more evident the longer it goes on. Lyric wise, I think he's interesting in his lyrics, so I'm going to have to give those a seven the melody. I wish that verse had two extra line, so I'm going to ding that to five. Music and musicianship. I mean, they're great. Seven Arrangement six. And again, production is really good.
[00:58:05] Speaker C: Seven Saf seven on the lyrics. I actually really like the melody in this one. Eight on the melody. Seven on the arrangement, eight on the production. Eight on the music. I really like this one. I want to say I want to do seven and a half for some things, so I'll round it up. I really like this one. I'm digging it and I understand absolutely what you're saying, but this is kind of their vibe, especially this one. I get vibes from the first album. It kind of puts me back into that feeling, like.
[00:58:31] Speaker A: Yeah, well, here's another short song. This is 247. This is walk.
[00:58:41] Speaker B: Find myself singing in the same songs every day.
Ain't okay around and over in between the se.
I need to be on top of a mountain Where I can see everything Paranoid getting.
Ram.
[00:59:50] Speaker C: Love it.
It's funny, Frank, because you said Perry for all in the other one. I didn't really hear it. I almost hear it here now. It's almost like Perry Pharrell does Neil Young.
[00:59:59] Speaker B: Yep.
[00:59:59] Speaker C: I think the melody's great. The harmonica was great. The feel is great. They got the guitar, the electric guitar going under the acoustic. I mean, I think this is really good.
[01:00:08] Speaker A: I hesitate to say I don't like it. It's not true.
[01:00:11] Speaker C: Obviously, we don't always agree on everything. I mean, I'm just digging it.
[01:00:15] Speaker A: I understand the vibe. Thought I'd liked it a little bit more when it started. Sometimes his melody choices are questionable. For me, the more harmonica sold, it was good. I like the music is great behind it. And I understand where people are saying the porno for pyro, Jane's Addiction thing, but I have to say Jane's Addiction songs are way more straightforward than this. They seem to put themselves together a little bit better. I think he has the possibility to write better songs. It's starting to get old for me that there's nothing for me to. To grab onto. I don't feel any kind of connection to this. It just feels too disjointed for me.
[01:00:48] Speaker D: I'm digging it.
Like Sam said, it just sounds wonderful. Pyros.
[01:00:52] Speaker A: I'm the odd man out, I guess.
[01:00:54] Speaker D: I suppose so.
[01:00:55] Speaker B: Mark.
[01:00:56] Speaker C: Mark, for what it's worth, I think I've been the odd man out more than anybody else.
[01:01:00] Speaker A: I want to like this. I really want to like this. There's parts I really do like and there's interesting things in here. I just wish for me that they could put it together a little bit better.
[01:01:11] Speaker C: See, I don't think it's weird, though. When he first comes in is a little bit odd. And I was like, I kind of hope he doesn't sound like that throughout. And maybe he did and maybe I just got used to it, but I just. I don't know. To me, it's not odd. It's just this Neil Young sounding song. And I think it's a strong melody, but that's me. I'm just saying how it's coming across to me. I just don't find this one odd. I found it kind of simple.
[01:01:34] Speaker A: It is the most simple. I can say that the acoustic stuff is pretty good. He comes in and certain parts I like. And then he'll do something, I'll like it a lot. And then he'll just left turn on me and make me not like it. That seems to happen almost every song. I like the beginning parts of it. The verse is good. I like the way the melody. And then he'll just fucking do something weird.
Why do you have to do that on every fucking song? I understand you want to make your statement. You want your artistic statement. This is what you want to do. And I didn't feel like this with Jane's Addiction. I like that record a lot here. It just throws me off. That's just me, probably. Verse 1. I find myself singing the same songs every day. Yeah, Once they make me feel good when things behind a smile ain't okay around and over and in between the seas I need to be on top of a mountain Where I can see everything Cuz the paranoia is getting old oh, yes. You know, and then the solo. See, I do like the lyrics. I think he's really good at painting a picture. It's just sometimes his choices befuddle me. All right, here we go.
[01:02:41] Speaker B: Family, you know I need them no, I've seen it all before My feet are so cold and I can't believe that I have to bang my head against this wall again and if those they have just a little more space in between Am going to take a breath and try to try again.
[01:03:56] Speaker C: They gave you a fade, Mark. If nothing else else to give you a fade.
[01:04:00] Speaker A: I like the fade out. Oh, boy. I Do like his lyrics. I just. Again, I. I'm not a big fan of the melody in this at all. First two. Now I just open my eyes to start another day I'm in a pile of puke Empty bag of excuses My love for friends and family, you know I need them and the sun that I've seen it all before My feet are so cold I can't believe that I have to bang my head against this wall Again with the blows. They have just a little more space in between them. Gonna take a breath and try again. Oh yeah. Oh, I'm going to go first. I don't really want to bang this. I understand what he's trying to do. So lyric wise, I think he's a good lyricist. So I'm going to give it on seven for lyrics. The melody I just not a big fan of. I'm going to say four on this one. Musicianship. Six arrangement. I guess it's sort of straightforward, but not really five and production's been good. Regardless whether I think the song is great or not, I think that it's produced very well. Right.
[01:04:51] Speaker D: Lyrics and melody. Six music. I'm going to go seven across so far. Look, one of the things, like you said, I think the production has been great so far throughout this whole album. And the music has been really good as well with Full Sword. Sometimes it's just the lyrics. So far I like this song. I just don't love it.
[01:05:07] Speaker C: I really like the song Hates Across.
I think it's really, really good. I like everything about it. The lyrics. I completely understand obviously what he's trying to say and some of the way he puts it is really, really good. I really like the melody, the music. The only thing I wasn't crazy about was that little solo at the end. It was a little bit dissonant, so that bottom bothered me a little bit. But it's at the very, very end.
[01:05:29] Speaker B: I don't know.
[01:05:30] Speaker C: I think this is really good. I think overall this is a really strong side. I do remember liking you when I heard it. But for whatever reason, I hadn't gone back to it for a long time. It's like, I don't remember this song. I'm like, why didn't you go back and listen to this?
[01:05:44] Speaker A: This is the end of the first part for us. So this is dump tr.
[01:06:13] Speaker B: I don't want to go down I don't want to go down I don't want to go down like she did and I can't understand why something has got to down.
[01:06:31] Speaker C: I'll defer to you, Mark. I'm assuming the verse annoys you.
[01:06:35] Speaker A: It's okay. The chorus is better, at least. It's a little sort of catchy. Sort of, Kind of. It's an interesting lyrical context.
He's a weirdo man who writes weird.
Is it better? I like this better than last song. Song, I think, so far.
[01:06:51] Speaker C: Do you like that opening riff?
[01:06:52] Speaker A: It was interesting that it went from that really fuzzy, distorted thing to this straight weird. Yeah, Very strange. They don't like to repeat their riffs in places. Doesn't seem like I thought when we got this that I was gonna like this more.
And again, parts I do like. I can't say that I don't. Overall, it's not for me. I don't think at least this side. Maybe second side might be a little bit different. Who knows? Maybe I like more stuff on the second side. But right now I really wish that there was something for me to grab onto and go, hey, I like that song. This song was a. Whatever. There's just parts in each song that I like, but not a total song that I could say, I like this. Maybe I only like no rain. And that's it. Maybe that's just what I like. That's all I'll ever like.
[01:07:30] Speaker C: That could be it.
[01:07:32] Speaker A: Could be it.
[01:07:33] Speaker D: The beginning has a very morphine sound to it. When I first heard, it was like, wow, this sounds a lot like a morphine intro to a song. I like it.
[01:07:41] Speaker A: I'm starting to think I'm wrong about this.
[01:07:44] Speaker C: You can't like everything that everyone else likes. Remember Tragic Kingdom? I mean, you guys praise the shit out of that race record. I'm like, it just wasn't for me.
[01:07:51] Speaker A: Yeah, I guess. Okay, first one. New York City. Soothing. My itchy, itchy month of May Time has passed for Ms. Onasis decay on display Chorus. I don't want to go down I don't want to go down I want to go down like she did. I can't understand why something's good got to die before we miss it. I like the sentiment in those lyrics. Like I said, I think he's a good lyricist.
[01:08:10] Speaker C: Yeah.
[01:08:10] Speaker A: I think for me, where it fails is the melody, generally. Let's continue. Here we go.
[01:08:19] Speaker B: In my heart and Hastings is wasting away religiously they seem to see if I sell the trick.
I just don't want to feel I just don't want to feel I just don't want to feel like that.
Way I think you know I love you.
[01:09:26] Speaker C: When it first started, like, by the end of it. I liked it. I think from what I remember solos on the first one a little bit more constructed here. This is really only the second technically solo. I don't know. I kind of. The more the song goes on, the more I like it. It's all over the place in a sense, but I kind of appreciate it. I don't know. I mean, Mark, I'm assuming it hasn't grown on you.
[01:09:46] Speaker A: I like the solo part. I thought that was okay.
Like the bass playing on that. Everything was good on that.
[01:09:51] Speaker B: I thought.
[01:09:52] Speaker A: Again, there's pieces I do like and I do appreciate some of the things.
But I'm going to. Once we have finished this, I'm going to read some quotes where people said when it came out, it's 100% right when I was reading. That's exactly how I feel.
The verse 2 is mumble talk to Pigeon park and Hastings is wasting away Religiously they seem to sin, buy seller, trade for amens. And the choruses. I don't want to feel. I just don't want to feel. I just don't want to feel like they feel. Hollow body for sound. Trade my car coat for a gown. And there's a bridge. And now way up in my arms you know I love you. Just a little bit. Just a little bit. Just a little bit more. The solo. And now we're back into another verse. So let's hear this. Here we go.
[01:10:43] Speaker B: It.
And. Oh, well. I know that you could fly a mile high.
You tell me nothing's ever gonna come between.
Nothing's ever gonna good between.
Nothing's ever gonna come between My down truck and me.
[01:12:20] Speaker C: When that last part first started, I'm like. I don't know if I like this riff, but I really liked his melody over it. And yeah, it's all over the place. The more I was went on, the more I liked it. Can't help it. Maybe I'm just a fan of the band.
[01:12:31] Speaker A: I like that last chorus. I thought the last chorus was the best chorus so far in the whole record. It was the most together. Speaking of that, here's the verse phrasing. Nose down to chin. Smoke after smoke they all trickle in. Anything for anything and ending up with nothing. Chorus. Simple pimpled young man. Sores all over his hands. He's sleeping not so silently I'll mop the floors for you all. I'm not flying the wall really big and listening outro burned the hand of a friend of mine. And no bu. I know you could fly a mile high you told me nothing's ever going to come between a. Nothing's ever going to come between. And nothing's ever come. Going to come between my dump truck and me. Which I think dump truck is a metaphor for drugs from what I read. So another drug song before we do our review. This is what some people said. People said in 1995. The approach sounds a bit maddening. It can be. But at least they've accomplished an important task establishing a musical life beyond the B Girl. It is maddening, 100%.
[01:13:27] Speaker C: They did that on the first album. If you listen to it, though, if you like it.
[01:13:32] Speaker A: Yeah. Rolling Stone didn't like it, they said, which was slight, fair to offer. And no kid in the beu Soup puts blind melon in hot water. I don't know if I agree with that. And then one of the others is Karang said soup. Bold, barmy and borderline great. And I agree with that. For me it's borderline. It could be better if they just tighten some stuff up. Had a couple courses that. That did something somewhere like the last couple chorus there. If they could do more of that, I would like it more. It doesn't always serve the song. And that's how I look at it. What they do doesn't always serve the song. It's being weird sometimes just for being weird. And that's okay. In a couple songs you can do that. But to have a whole album's worth of that, you know, it's a hard sell. Probably why there wasn't another single from the first album. More than likely they couldn't probably find anything that they thought that they can push. And probably why Galaxy was single for this. Because that's really the only song so far that I can see that you could release. At least on this side anyway. I don't know about the second Inside I have no clue. There's another seven songs on the other side. It's just a very weird, eclectic thing that gets you mad. Because there are parts I really do like. For me, it feels like it's not all together. It feels like someone who's just dyslexic or they can't figure out what they want to do with the song. So let's just do all this weird. And if people don't like it, it. Which, you know what? Good for you. If you can say that to someone, that's what I'm going to do. If you don't like it, you. I guess if you have the B Girl money, you could do that.
I don't know if you can do that at the beginning, though.
[01:14:55] Speaker C: Yeah, they had that song. The rest of the album doesn't really sound like that. I remember. When was it Walking on the Sun? I think that was the one where I said, oh, this is cool. I like the vibe of the song. I bought that. And I think the rest of it was Scott. And if I'm wrong, please tell me I'm wrong. Oh, okay. Well, I bought it for this, hoping it was sounded like that, but it didn't. I can understand you go into that and meanwhile, they're like a jammy vibe band. That's really what they are. I think that's what I take away from this, and maybe that's what it is. I've kind of closed my eyes to. To almost all these songs and just vibed along with them.
[01:15:29] Speaker A: Well, why don't you go first?
[01:15:30] Speaker C: I was just thinking, did we score this song yet or no.
7 on the lyrics, 8 on the production. I'm gonna go sevens on everything else, man. In the beginning, that heavy into the jazzy kind of thing, which almost reminded me a little bit of Sting I wasn't crazy about. But then I liked the echo on his voice. By the end of it, I liked it. I liked it more and more. I think overall, to me, it's a pretty strong song. Right.
[01:15:55] Speaker D: For me, that intro was great. It had more of a morphine sound to me than Sting, but I could definitely hear the sing sound in there, that jazzy sound. I'm gonna go seven across the board. It was funky. It was different than what we've heard so far. I'm beginning to like the album a lot more because we're not getting the same sound. It's a little bit of all over the place. And this was keeping it interesting. Nikki titty baby, quintessential tuple seven Mark.
[01:16:21] Speaker A: I'm going to do five on the lyrics, five on the melody, six on music, five on arrangement, and seven on production. The only thing I can say is for production for me has been very consistent through the whole thing. I do like the production. I just really wish that for me the songs were a little more put together.
[01:16:37] Speaker C: You are killing it.
[01:16:39] Speaker A: I really haven't given a bad score this.
I really haven't given it bad scores.
[01:16:46] Speaker C: Dude, man, listen, you could give it all zeros. I mean, opinion is opinion. That's why we do this. We're not not sitting here saying, oh, I, I, I should like this, I need to like this. Or, I mean, remember when we did Sonic Youth? I mean, There was some stuff we're. Frank and I were like, yo, this is great. And you're like, what the is this? I can understand that why we do this. We're being honest. And you could be respectful to a certain point and say, well, this is who it is, or whatever it is, but if you don't like something, you don't like it.
[01:17:13] Speaker A: It's not that I don't like it.
[01:17:14] Speaker C: Your scores are reflective. All of our scores are reflective of. Of what we think. So what? But we do say sometimes where. Well, I. I don't dislike this song, but I can't give it more than a six, which is middle ground.
[01:17:26] Speaker A: I do like his vocals and I do like a lot of the music. I. I am very appreciative of some of the music in there. I think some of the stuff is really good. It just, for me, feels like it's just not put together enough for me.
[01:17:39] Speaker C: So I don't think you've never really heard the first album then, right?
[01:17:43] Speaker A: Probably not.
[01:17:44] Speaker C: Yeah. I don't think you have. I mean, I thought you would like it, but. And now I'm saying to myself, because it's very guitar heavy. I mean, obviously this album too, it's really guitar driven. The first one as well.
[01:17:55] Speaker A: We have some more songs next week. We shall see. All right, Sav, why don't you do your thing?
[01:17:58] Speaker C: We are part of the Deep Dive Podcast Network and the Boneless Podcast Network.
[01:18:02] Speaker A: Boneless, you know, like those chicken wings without the bone, like we always say.
[01:18:06] Speaker C: Great bunch of guys took us in right away. If you want individual podcasts about bands like Rush, Judas Priest, Uriah Heap, Tom Petty, you name it, it's probably on there. So check them out. And mark, where can they find us?
[01:18:17] Speaker A: On the Interweb Rock roulette pod on all the social media. Rockwallettepodcast.com put a new beds to the merch. You know what to do. Put us on your auto download so you get our episodes every week and rate us 5 stars wherever you rate your podcast because that helps us move up the ladder. And next week we will finish this. And hopefully I won't have a coronary before the end of the album or pull my hair out or whatever I'm gonna do, we will see you next week.
[01:18:42] Speaker C: Ciao, ciao.
[01:18:43] Speaker A: Later.
Stop stealing my thunder.
[01:19:05] Speaker B: It.
