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[00:01:14] Speaker C: Welcome back to another episode of rock roulette podcast. That's right, the crazy ass podcast that took over 1, 900 albums, stuck them in a list, stuck them in a wheel. And every other week we spin the wheel. She picks a record for us and we go through it track by track. We talk about the music, the lyrics, the production, the melody and the arrangement and we give it scores. Just a bunch of friends who love music want to do a podcast and everyone who takes this trip of discovery rediscovery with us. Thank you so much. Keep listening, Spread the word. Tell us what you like, what you don't like. You know, maybe an album you want us to talk about, a song you want us to talk about. We're always willing to listen. We are a duo again. Tonight we got Mark. Oh hi Mark.
[00:01:50] Speaker A: What's up guys?
[00:01:51] Speaker C: And I'm Sev.
For a few weeks we've been asking the Wheel to give us a famous band and an album we may not know. And I think she delivered last week Technical Ecstasy by Black Sabbath. We knew of its existence. I've always meant to really listen to it, but never really did. So this is actually the perfect form, I think. I think it's sort of pretty strong. The first two songs to me are pretty good. The two middle songs are okay. And I think it picked up again at the end. Or actually no, it's four songs. So maybe the third song was but the last one wasn't too bad. Is it Do Me Gloomy Black Sabbath? Not necessarily, but I don't think it's this massive 180 that some people may have you believe. I mean, what do you think so far?
[00:02:31] Speaker A: Mark I think that it is not what Black Sabbath f.
I don't think the two songs at the beginning are bad. I do think that I understand if you're a real Black Sabbath fan, what you want to hear is not what they're giving you Right now, and they're trying to stretch out. If they don't stretch out, people say, oh, you do the same thing over and over. And when they do stretch out, the people go, why can't you do the old thing for me? Since I don't have an attachment that way? I like the first two songs. I think they were bad.
[00:02:54] Speaker C: Yeah, I think those are pretty good. I mean, I think as a Sabbath fan, as a music fan, you have to say, like, yeah, this is pretty good. I'm very interested in hearing what's on the second side. I think there's references, Mark, you said, to sounding like Kiss, who is massive at this point. And we'll see where it lands. I'm very curious. Before we get to Black Sabbath, we have the New Bets section in the Baby wheel.
[00:03:16] Speaker A: In a world where new music is not easy to find.
Welcome to New Bets.
All right, let's spin the new Bets wheel.
[00:03:47] Speaker C: Style by Red Voodoo.
[00:03:49] Speaker A: Don't ask me. I don't know.
[00:03:51] Speaker C: No idea. I won't. I've learned not to ask unless I know who it is. I'll just say, oh, I heard a snippet of this. Like, I want to put it on the wheel.
[00:03:58] Speaker A: I've heard snippets of all these. If you ask me what they are, I have no clue. Yeah, all right, let's do this. This is Style by Red Voodoo.
[00:04:15] Speaker B: Just one of them.
Telling what you want me to do.
Instant traction. You're the queen of satisfaction Straight out of the boat magazine Walking in those bare metal jeans. She's got sound, she wears it well.
She's got st.
Oh, I can tell, I can tell she's got moves that make me go wild.
My baby's got st.
I know what you want.
You're playing hard to get, baby but out of backing down oh, no, not yet.
Teach Enemy a thing or two With a smile you're. You're ready to. She's got self.
She wears it well.
Yeah, she's got sal.
Oh, I can tell, I can tell she's got move.
Oh, I can tell, I can tell she's got.
She wears it well.
She's got st.
Oh, I can tell, I can tell she's got moves there made me go well, my baby's got style oh, yeah, my baby's got style.
[00:07:31] Speaker C: It's not bad. It isn't necessarily my cup of tea, but I don't think it's bad. The productions are bad. It's definitely a bit of a throwback.
[00:07:38] Speaker A: What do you think it reminded me of? Rock City Machine Company.
It's very safe. It's very safe. Not bad. They're a young band, so it's nice to see a new rock band. That's not bad. There's not really anything that differentiates this from anything else.
[00:07:51] Speaker C: Are they on the list?
[00:07:52] Speaker A: I think they just have EP out. I don't think they have full length album out. I probably heard this and went, oh, that's not too bad. And it's not too bad. It's decent. No, but you knew exactly what was going to happen. It was fairly stock and that's not always bad. In this case though, there's nothing that really sets them apart. Not the guitar playing, not the song and the singer. Reminds me of someone. I can't place on who he reminds me of.
[00:08:13] Speaker C: Agreed.
[00:08:14] Speaker A: Is it bad? No. Will I go back to it? Probably not.
[00:08:16] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:08:16] Speaker C: But I'd be curious to see if the rest of it is the same. You know what I mean? If they branch out a bit.
[00:08:20] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:08:21] Speaker C: Know we've never done any pee on the show.
[00:08:23] Speaker A: No.
[00:08:23] Speaker C: I mean we could short episode.
[00:08:25] Speaker A: It is our show. We could do whatever we want.
[00:08:27] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:08:27] Speaker A: Let us know if you like it or you don't like it on social media. And let's rubber stamp this in a world where new music is not easy to find.
Welcome to New Bets.
All right, well, let's continue this. This is side two of Technical Ecstasy. This is all moving parts stand still.
[00:09:08] Speaker B: Super animation Turning on a nation at the same all mo since he was elected Adrenaline.
Just like the hero there's got them all on the run.
There's one.
Yeah, yeah.
[00:09:55] Speaker C: This is another one with an early guitar solo. There was one on the first night that was like that.
[00:09:59] Speaker A: Yep.
[00:10:00] Speaker C: It's got a little bit of a funk to it, I think.
I really like the production on this one. It's not bad. I kind of like the melody. His voice sounds a little bit different. Obviously you could tell it's Ozzy. It's not bad. I'm curious to see where it goes.
[00:10:12] Speaker A: I don't hate it. I just don't know if it's Black Sabbath. That's the only thing.
[00:10:15] Speaker C: It's Black Sabbath funky.
[00:10:17] Speaker A: It's like Black Sabbath light. But do I think it's horrible? No.
[00:10:20] Speaker B: No.
[00:10:21] Speaker A: But again, I don't.
Of some other bands that I have attachment to. For me, I can almost say this is not horrible. Why don't people like this? I've heard lots of stuff that's worse than this.
[00:10:31] Speaker C: Yeah. I think it's better to approach it that way and say, hey, we listened to Technical Ecstasy and it wasn't bad. And then you go back and listen to some of the classics and say, yeah, I mean, this shit's fucking really good.
And not that I'm saying, not that this is bad. Hey, this is really good. But that wasn't that bad. And I've heard everything. I think I've heard every single Black Tabith album, so. And yeah, they've got some stuff that borders on certain things.
[00:10:56] Speaker A: They're trying to take chances. They're trying to change things up a little bit. Trying to move a little bit away from the doom and gloom stone a rock that they do. But it's hard when that's your thing. I don't mind that they're trying. And I don't think this is bad. I just think that their fans probably weren't too happy about this. And I understand as being a Kiss fan or being a Van Halen fan, sometimes things come out, you're like, I don't know.
Sometimes time makes those albums better. You go back after the fact and go, oh, that's not horrible. I don't know why I didn't like that. Or it's not as bad as I thought it could be. Verse one, super animation Turning on a nation and they're all saying Moving parts Stand still since he was elected Adrenaline injected Hear him say all moving parts should kill Just like the hero he's got them all on the run yes, he's one, yeah, yeah. And I do like the fact that they put the chorus in the verse and there's not a real chorus.
That's pretty cool. It's a little bit different.
[00:11:49] Speaker C: Yeah, they experimented on the first night, too, with some of the arrangements. Some of it was pretty cool. They're great songwriters. Clearly they know how to arrange songs.
[00:11:57] Speaker A: Assuming this is going to be like masters of reality, it's just, how are you going to do that? It's impossible.
[00:12:02] Speaker C: Yeah. Anybody who knows anything about Black Sabbath. I don't know if I told the story of how I discovered this and Never say Die, but we had, When I was living and we had somebody in Yonkers, somebody who lived downstairs from us, and he had records he had gotten, I think, bought from the library. They were having a sale. And I'm flipping through and I'm like, what the hell is this? I assumed it was later on or whatever. And I look at, it's like Ozzy Osbourne. I'd never hear these two records before if I thought I'd heard of everything. Up until that point. Even the Tony Martin stuff. But he's like, yeah, they're Aussie. I was like, oh. I was like, let me know. You know, if you listen to them, let me know how they are. I don't think he ever did.
I don't even think he had a record player. But he bought them on vinyl.
[00:12:42] Speaker A: Yeah. I'm not hating this. Let's see what it does. I'm curious. All right, here we go.
[00:12:59] Speaker B: Moment. Should all be free.
What a combination.
It's radiation.
And he saying three men shall fight for me Just like his mama he seems to get his pleasure from fame and the rain Ain't that strange There is great.
Yeah.
I like choking toys.
You got to sing me before you make the boys.
Teachers from the school.
He's had enough of sticking through the road.
All right.
[00:15:18] Speaker C: A good arrangement. I like that part. I like whatever keyboard was going on there. And Black Sabbath is known to throw different pieces in into their music. It's not bad.
[00:15:28] Speaker A: The bridge was a little weird. I don't know if it need to be that long. I think maybe they should have went into the solo after the. The right part. I don't know. I'm okay with it.
[00:15:36] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:15:36] Speaker A: And the lyrics are pretty good, as usual. Verse 2. Since he passed a motion they're building in the ocean and he's saying all men should all be free what a combination Peace and radiation and he's saying free men should fight for me Just like his mama he seems to get his pleasure from pain and the rain Ain't that strange? Very strange. Bridge. I like choking toys. You got to see me before you meet the boys Teachers burnt the school he's had enough of sticking to all the rules all right. People stop and see he's got to be more decadent than me Just to pass the time Gets his kicks from licking off the wine Supposedly this is about a female transvestite who becomes the President of the United States. That's what this is about.
[00:16:15] Speaker C: Leave it to Geezer Butler to do that.
[00:16:18] Speaker A: Because America was such a misogynistic society at the time. It's just interesting take on stuff. I actually like his guitar soloing in this better than anything on this album so far.
[00:16:27] Speaker C: The bass is amazing in this song.
[00:16:29] Speaker A: I think everything's pretty good. Drumming was good, too.
[00:16:32] Speaker C: Yeah. Oh, yeah, absolutely.
[00:16:34] Speaker A: Ozzy sounds good. Lady.
[00:16:35] Speaker C: No, it's not a bad song.
[00:16:36] Speaker A: It's just not the typical Black Sabbath, that's all. If you can step yourself away from that a little bit, maybe it's A good thing. Listen, they don't want to be AC dc, which every song is the same. I think you appreciate it after the fact that they had a little bit of different things that they did. Just like you can say Kiss the same way. You know, the 70s stuff is the 70s stuff. And then they had a little bit of experimentation. Then the 80s, they did a certain thing. You have different styles. You may not like one or you may like them all. So it's a good thing that Black Sabbath did a little bit of this instead of staying to the same formula they time.
[00:17:07] Speaker C: But I mean, there's definitely elements of Black Sabbath in this. Of course this isn't completely left field where someone could say, well, I mean, I guess it's hard when you have such amazing albums. Yeah, it's understandable considering the discography that came before this. It's amazing.
[00:17:23] Speaker A: Well, that's the problem. There's such amazing stuff prior to this that this doesn't really hold up to that. But it's still not bad.
[00:17:29] Speaker C: Yeah, but it doesn't suck either. We're not sitting here going, oh God, wow, this is oo man.
[00:17:35] Speaker A: No, 100%. It's better than probably most people at the time give it credit for. Just cuz it was a little bit different, that's all. All right, let's continue. Here we.
[00:17:56] Speaker B: Take the number.
And she said she's married to a clown Just like a lady she'll be through yes and through the night and not tonight when I might.
Oh, all right.
Yeah, Ram,
[00:19:11] Speaker C: That's good.
Not bad.
[00:19:14] Speaker A: I didn't hate it.
Verse 3 Pretty silly ladies all Cynthia's and Sadie's call him up and he takes their numbers down says he is a woman I should have seen it coming. And she's saying she's married to a clown Just like a lady she'll keep you guessing through the night not tonight well, I might. All right. Yeah, you go first. I'm curious to see what you do.
[00:19:34] Speaker C: I think I would do seven on the music and production and six on everything else. Definitely. So many songs I'd want to go back to and see how they hit. I say that about everything that I really haven't heard. Sometimes I do go listen to our podcast and certain songs that I gave higher scores to, I listened to like.
And then other ones were like, ah, that wasn't as bad as I thought back then. What do you give it?
[00:19:54] Speaker A: I think I'm gonna do the same thing. I like all the musicianship and I like production and still not bad. The Sixes on the other things are totally fine. Everything was really good. The drums were good. The bass was good. Guitar playing was my favorite so far. And Ozzy, as usual, sounds fairly consistent.
I didn't think it was bad.
[00:20:10] Speaker C: No.
[00:20:10] Speaker A: Okay. This is the one that supposedly is a little Kiss. Ish. This is rock and roll Doct.
[00:21:13] Speaker B: I gotta see.
[00:21:27] Speaker C: I don't really get KISS from that. I get more Grand Funk, maybe Nugent, at least Me, I don't really get Kiss out of that a little bit. Maybe in the beginning, the riff a little bit maybe.
[00:21:37] Speaker A: But I don't feel KISS in this at all. I feel more. It's a 70s basic rock thing. And I could see why people think this is not Black Sabbath. This more than maybe anything besides the one where Bill Ward sang on the first side. This is the anomaly so far.
[00:21:52] Speaker C: Yeah. This is a song that you say is straight 70s. And the other ones, whether or not you think they sound like Black Sabbath or not, they still have this thing about them. I'd like to go back and listen to everything again. Maybe the first two for sure were the standouts. But there was still something there that this one doesn't have. We've talked about Safe. This feels like that 70s safe. Like anybody could have done this back back then. I'm not feeling this one so much.
[00:22:18] Speaker A: Me neither. First one. Well, I'm sick and tired of hearing about the world and its hang ups Gonna get myself together Take a ride downtown Choruses Gotta see my rock and roll doctor. He does that three times. I gotta see him, see him today he's gonna blow me away Is it about drugs? Maybe the rock and roll doctor.
[00:22:35] Speaker C: Some kind of medication.
[00:22:36] Speaker A: I gotta see him, see him today he's gonna blow me away Cocaine maybe.
[00:22:39] Speaker C: The song is about the rock and roll band's drug supplier. When the protagonist feels down and wants to feel energy.
Rock and roll doctor to get his prescribed drugs.
[00:22:50] Speaker A: There you go.
[00:22:51] Speaker C: There you go.
[00:22:52] Speaker A: Let's see what it does. Here we go.
[00:23:19] Speaker B: Gotta see my.
[00:23:59] Speaker C: I like the breakdown. I thought that was pretty good. That's my favorite part of the song is that little instrumental bit.
[00:24:05] Speaker B: It's.
[00:24:05] Speaker C: I feel. I picture a 70s glamy band singing this more than Black Sabbath.
[00:24:12] Speaker A: Yeah, I can hear that. That guitar solo part. That's the most kissed part, I think, of the whole song.
[00:24:17] Speaker C: Yeah, I think so.
[00:24:18] Speaker A: Yeah. I didn't hate that part at all.
[00:24:20] Speaker C: No, I liked it. That was my favorite part. So.
[00:24:23] Speaker A: Of the song is just kind of meh.
[00:24:24] Speaker C: Yeah, it's fine. To me, that's what it is. It doesn't suck. It's fine. It's a song. If you're listening to an album and it comes on, you don't sit there going, oh, my. Turn this off. You're kind of like, ah, screw.
[00:24:37] Speaker A: Maybe this is what fans didn't like.
[00:24:39] Speaker C: Yeah. I can picture fans not liking this.
[00:24:41] Speaker A: Yeah. If you don't like this type of thing and then Black Sabbath does, you're like, what the.
This is 1976. This is the kind of stuff that was popular. This kind of riffy rock and roll kind of thing was going pretty. He. Verse 2. He makes me happy when I'm feeling down yeah, it takes away my worry, takes away my frown Chorus is the same solo. And now I'll read the third verse and then we'll play the third verse. Verse three is, if you want to feel groovy give the doctor a call. Yeah, Dr. Rock will help you anytime at all. And it's gonna do the chorus and it's gonna ad lib at the end. So let's run this out. Here we go.
[00:25:26] Speaker B: Al.
Me foreign.
[00:26:24] Speaker C: It's not bad. And if Black Sabbath wants to make a song like this, then they can make a song like this.
[00:26:31] Speaker A: It is what it is.
[00:26:33] Speaker C: Yeah. Who are people to say you can't make a rock and roll song like
[00:26:36] Speaker A: this is maybe my least favorite on the whole record.
[00:26:40] Speaker C: My babe.
[00:26:41] Speaker A: I'm gonna make it easy. I'm gonna do fives across. It's fine. It wouldn't be something that I would leave on. I can see where people are trying to get the Kiss connection. The solo was a little bit kissy. The piano part in there. Although that's not solely attributed to Kiss.
That's everything. It's fine. What do you think?
[00:26:58] Speaker C: I'd say six on production and five on everything else. I'll throw a slight bone in there. You know it's them because it's Ozzy. This is almost as if someone listening to it might say, did Ozzy leave Sabbath? And now is doing this vibe.
You hear? It's him. That's for sure. Whether or not you know it's them might be a different story.
[00:27:19] Speaker A: Yeah, that didn't do anything for me, really. All right, the next one is. She'.
[00:27:28] Speaker B: Sam.
Sat for you I didn't want to
[00:28:25] Speaker C: see you go oh, no, no.
[00:28:32] Speaker B: I know it's nothing so much.
What can I do?
I wanted you to be my wife.
The days of blessings lovely since you come Your memories are all I.
See the awakening anything but you never show without you I can't carry on O my baby.
[00:30:11] Speaker C: Are people that love this. I don't think it's bad, but I'm not feeling this one either.
[00:30:15] Speaker A: It reminds me a little bit of solo azie.
It's only 451. It's not a long song, but it just feels like it's dragging on. Maybe it's the melody that's making a drag.
[00:30:26] Speaker C: I'm assuming it doesn't go anywhere else other than within this context.
[00:30:30] Speaker A: I mean, unless the first two changes, I doubt very highly it's going to go anywhere.
[00:30:34] Speaker C: I don't think. I mean, this is no changes. I mean, I love changes. And that's a ballad with the keyboard and. But I'm not really feeling this one.
[00:30:42] Speaker A: The playing seems to be pretty good.
[00:30:43] Speaker C: Yeah, there's nothing wrong with what he's playing or necessarily the melody. I'm not sitting here going, oh my God. I'm just going, okay, what's next?
Yeah, that's kind of where I am here.
[00:30:54] Speaker A: Verse 1. I've been a long long time waiting for you. I don't. I didn't want to see you go oh no, no. And now it's hurting so much what can I do? I wanted you to be my wife. These days are passing slowly since you've gone. Your memories are all I have Yes, I have. I'm sitting here, here waiting but you never show. Without you I can't carry on. Ooh, my baby. There's really no chorus. It's just basically two verses and they definitely don't say the name of the song. I just don't think it's going to go anywhere. I think that's going to be the problem.
The instrumental break was okay. It wasn't bad.
[00:31:28] Speaker C: No, the strings and stuff that's going on, that's not bad.
[00:31:31] Speaker A: Yeah. Okay, let's continue. Here we go.
[00:31:37] Speaker B: You said you always love me all of my life and then you said you're less Goodbye.
Yeah, goodbye.
Why the sudden changes?
Why all of the light?
I should have seen it in your ey night.
The endless hours of party awaiting for you.
My summer love has turn to rain over pain.
The silent emptiness of one sided love.
My life is nothing now you got O my baby.
Sam,
[00:33:34] Speaker C: It's not bad, but maybe if it was shorter and an interlude piece that went into something or just a quick little standalone. It's okay. I don't think there's anything really bad on this record.
[00:33:45] Speaker A: No, I think it's too long for what it is. There's no change. There's nothing to take you to some other place. The bass was awesome, by the way.
[00:33:53] Speaker C: Yeah, he's a great bass player.
[00:33:54] Speaker A: That might be the best part of the whole song. Verse 2. You said you'd always love me all my life and then you said your last goodbye yeah, goodbye. Why the sudden changes why all the lies? I should have seen it in your ey the endless hours of heartache waiting for you My summer love has turned to rain all the pain the silent emptiness of one sided love My life means nothing now you're gone Ooh, my baby why don't you go first?
[00:34:18] Speaker C: Same same as the one before. Six on production, five on everything else. I was reading something where people were saying it's an underrated album and people don't like it because they compare it to everything else. When I listen to these things, I don't compare because my thing is this. If I like an album, I like it now. I don't care if it sounds like what it was before or it sounds like what it was after. If you'd like the stuff that came, you like the stuff that came after. I just listened to it in the moment. So I'm not sitting here saying, oh, this isn't paranoid or this isn't war pigs or this isn't this. Because we've complimented some of this stuff. Just to me, those last two songs were meh. What do you think?
[00:34:51] Speaker A: I think I'll do the same thing. Fives across in six production. Production was good. I thought the bass playing was good. Singing wasn't bad. It's just. It didn't go anywhere. It was two long verses and just some instrumental stuff. In the metal. These are two in a row where if you're a Black Sabbath fan, you're going, I'm not too sure about this.
Well, we're at the and this is a long song. This is 707. This is Dirty Women.
[00:35:36] Speaker B: Much of a friend.
I need a lady to help me to get through the night through the night if I could find her then everything would feel all right.
The sleepy city is dreaming the nighttime away.
Out on the streets I watch tomorrow becoming Today.
I see a man he's got take away Women for sale Guess what Sale and that's the answer. Just take away with. I mean, don't fail.
[00:36:40] Speaker C: I really like that main riff that I feel. The production is off on this one and it's not even the keyboard thing going on because it's that creepy organ. I want it to be heavier. That's what I think is missing. Here. It's a little bit too bright for me for what it is because that riff is really cool and I like that thing going on. I'm hoping maybe it'll wear off where I'm not digging the production. And by the end of it, I'm like, okay, yeah, like, that's cool. Because that main riff, I think, is really good.
[00:37:11] Speaker A: Yeah, I think the roof is good. I don't know why it needs to be seven minutes, though. I'm curious to see how they take this into seven minutes because there's not a lot of lyrics in this, so it's got to be a lot of instrumental, maybe a few changes. Yeah, I guess it has the potential to be okay if they can throw a whole bunch stuff of stuff in here, which I assume that's what's gonna happen probably. Verse 1. The neon lights are shining on me again I walk the lonely streets in search of a friend I need a lady to help me to get through the night through the night if I could find her Then everything would be all right verse 2 the sleepy city is dreaming the night away out on the street I watch tomorrow becoming today I see a man he's got takeaway women for sale. Yes, for sale. Guess that's the answer because takeaway women don't fail. So supposedly Geezer Butler wrote this about all the hookers he saw in Florida.
And supposedly this was one of the only songs from the album that was regularly played live. Even on the end tour, they played this, the one song out of Technical Ecstasy that they even played. All right, well, we're only a minute 23, and we have another six minutes to go. Or a little less.
[00:38:14] Speaker C: Let's see where it goes.
[00:38:15] Speaker A: Yeah, I don't know.
[00:40:19] Speaker B: They don't mess around.
They don't mess around.
[00:40:58] Speaker C: That banner here is very savage. I just wish they went back to the main rift. That part was a little bit shorter, but I mean, musician wise, it's pretty strong, I think.
[00:41:08] Speaker A: Yeah, I think the solo parts are pretty good. I like the chorus a lot.
[00:41:11] Speaker C: Yeah, it's really good. I like that part.
[00:41:13] Speaker A: I. I just think it has a weird arrangement. If. Maybe if I had a more straightforward arrangement, it would be easier to digest.
Musicianship wise, it was good. I like that whole middle part. They changed it up a little bit. This is where they're being a little more experimental. The drums are really good.
[00:41:26] Speaker B: It.
[00:41:27] Speaker A: Guitar playing is really good. Everything's good. Bass is vocals. There's really not bad parts here. I think maybe it's just an arrangement thing. That they could have gotten to the chorus a little bit quicker before the solo.
[00:41:36] Speaker B: Maybe.
[00:41:37] Speaker A: I don't know.
[00:41:37] Speaker C: No, I would have cut a little bit off just having that main rhythm riff going on with nothing. Even though I like the riff. But when it's just bar after bar of it with nothing, I'm like, okay, maybe if you cut two bars of this to get to this chorus, it's really good, really strong. That's really my only complaint, I think, so far, I'm. Even the production, it's not bothering me as much now.
[00:41:56] Speaker A: Yeah, I thought it was pretty good. The chorus is. Oh, dirty women, they don't mess around. Oh, dirty women, they don't mess around. You got me coming, you got me going around. Oh, dirty women, they don't mess around. Let's go. And then there's going to be some kind of outro. I guess I'll read that now because we're getting to it. Walking the streets I wonder will it ever happen? Got to be good because then everything will be okay. If I could score tonight then I will end up laughing. A woman for sale is going to help me save the day. Dirty women, dirty women, Dirty women, dirty women. I'm assuming there's going to be more music interludes. I don't know. All right, let's do it. Here we go.
[00:42:34] Speaker B: Walking the streets.
This ain't my day.
It's sam.
[00:45:31] Speaker C: That is a good album Closer. I think it's exactly where it should be. Sometimes we talk about last songs and whether or not we imagine them as album closers, but I think that's a good album closer. Basically a guitar solo song, a lot of it. I thought it was pretty good. Honestly. I thought he did a pretty good job there with the Wawa and everything.
[00:45:48] Speaker A: I think, again, some of his best guitar playing.
I question why it has to be that long. Even though I don't care. As a guitar player, I'm really happy he got to do that, but as a song person, I just think it's a little bit too long. And that outro. What is the. That melody?
It's an Aussie song.
[00:46:06] Speaker C: Oh, maybe. I was listening to the soloing and the drumming. Then he went into the double bass drumming, which was pretty cool.
[00:46:13] Speaker A: Yeah. But that Walk in the streets, I wonder, will it ever happen? That part, that melody is definitely an Aussie thing. I'm sure people screaming at the thing now, saying, it's this, you.
I know what. I've heard it. I just don't remember what song it is. He obviously used it Again, probably. I don't think it was that bad.
Again, seven minutes maybe the problem. So I'm gonna give it six on the lyrics, six in the melody, seven on the music, five on the arrangement, and seven on the production. I can see why this song was played live a bunch of times. What do you think?
[00:46:42] Speaker C: I will say five on the lyrics, seven on the music, six on the melody. I'm gonna go six on arrangement. It didn't bother me. I mean, that one bit, I think could have been shorter, but overall, I still think they kind of gave him room to breathe, which was cool. And then they did a good job and take some production.
[00:46:58] Speaker A: It was definitely an album closer. It was the right place for that song to be.
[00:47:02] Speaker C: I mean, listen, overall, it's not bad. It's a. You have to take it as a. As a standalone record. That's what you need to do. Clearly, it wasn't exactly like the stuff that came before. I've never heard Never say Die, so I don't know if it's in that same category. From what I've heard and seen and album rankings, they kind of group together. Although this one is always more towards the bottom than Never say Die, so I'd be very curious to hear that, too, and see where they went right after this.
[00:47:25] Speaker A: Yeah, well, supposedly, I know I said that Black Sabbath produced it, but technically, like you said, Tony Iommi produced it. He said no one wanted to take the reigns. They all went to the beach because they did it in Miami and no one wanted to bring outside people in, so they left it all to him. So I think he's a little bit annoyed that that happened.
[00:47:41] Speaker C: Frustrating when you're a band and people don't act as a band. It's one thing if you're a band and nobody's actually acting like a band. If that is the case and you expect one person to do it while you're off gallivanting, then, yeah, that sucks. That will not sit well.
[00:47:55] Speaker A: And again, I understand the earlier Black Sabbath fans who like the more doom and gloom stuff, but you have to admit there are a bunch of songs on here. It's probably a good four songs on here that are pretty good.
[00:48:05] Speaker C: I would say that.
[00:48:06] Speaker A: And the other ones are not horrible. They may not be Black Sabbath for you, but they're not bad. Bad. It's not like you're going, ah, this thing's so horrible, I can't listen to it.
[00:48:14] Speaker C: If it was an album full of rock and roll. Doctor. Yeah, I think then you'd really Singing a different melody. But for what it's worth, Black Sabbath was a progressive metal band, and in terms of what they did, a lot of their songs have different parts in them. They're not all paranoid, where it's a straight shot, straight through. A lot of the songs are not like that. And there's stuff here, whether or not you like where they took it, that's. You have a right to that. But, yeah, like you said, I would say there's a good four out of the eight songs are pretty strong. The other ones are, you know, they're not bad. They're okay, but you can always skip them.
Or you can skip the ones that we like and be like. I've read a lot of people saying the Bill Ward song is their favorite on here. I said as.
[00:48:51] Speaker A: As we were listening, it seems that everybody in the band really doesn't like this record. Said, this is that beginning of the end, which, when you're in it, it probably feels that way.
[00:48:59] Speaker C: Oh, one more album. He was out, and then they came back with Heaven and Hell, which is a fan favorite with Ronnie James Dio.
[00:49:05] Speaker A: You finally got your wish. You got an album that you don't really know from a band, you know.
[00:49:08] Speaker C: Now, I've always wanted to listen this. This is a perfect forum for something like this. Cool.
[00:49:13] Speaker A: All right, Sam, which do you think
[00:49:14] Speaker C: we are part of? The Deep Dive Podcast Network and the Boneless Podcast Network.
[00:49:19] Speaker A: Boneless, you don't like those chicken wings without the bone?
[00:49:22] Speaker C: Like, a bunch of guys both took us in right away. If you want individual podcasts about bands, check them out. You got Mega Death, Metallica, Tom Petty. Probably got Black Sabbath. You got Queen. Your name, it's probably on this. So go check them out. And mark, where can they find this?
[00:49:35] Speaker A: On the Interweb Rock with that pod on all of the social media. Rockerlpodcast.com to the polls. Do the merch. You know what to do. Put us on your auto download and rate us 5 stars wherever you rate your podcast, because it helps the podcast out and gets us spread out to more people. And next week we get to spin again. Who knows? Knows what will happen? We don't know.
[00:49:53] Speaker C: Yeah, don't know.
[00:49:55] Speaker A: This was a good one. This is something I would never listen to on my own. I don't even know if I knew this album existed. I'm not the gigantic Black Sabbath fan. I know some of the older things we did. Masters of Reality, which I knew, but I didn't know this thing existed. And from what I read, I was gonna worry a lot that it was gonna really be bad. But it wasn't really bad. It just wasn't the same old, same old. And that's okay.
[00:50:15] Speaker C: This isn't their third album or it's fourth, fifth. I mean, it's down the line. Even though it's 76. They had I forgot how many albums before this. That's how it was back then. Sometimes as a band, you want to stretch out a little bit, and you may lose some of the fan base. It happens. Or you may gain a fan base. I mean, I don't know how many gain. People jumped on this and said, hey, it's a new Black Sabbath sound. Because it's not necessarily kind of Black Sabbath through a different filter, I feel, more than anything.
[00:50:42] Speaker A: Yep. All right, guys, we'll see you next week.
[00:50:44] Speaker C: Ciao.
[00:50:45] Speaker A: Later.
