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[00:01:14] Speaker B: Hey everybody. Welcome back to another episode of Rock Roulette Podcast. That's right, the crazy ass podcast that took over 1, 400 albums, stuck them in a list, stuck them in a wheel and typically every other week we spin the wheel, she picks a record for us. So we talk about the music, the lyrics, the production, the melody and the arrangement. Just give it scores. 1 out of 10 with nothing fancy here. Just a bunch of friends who wanted to do a podcast. I love music. Tonight we are trio again, which is always great. We got Frank.
My name is Frank and I'm sexy.
[00:01:54] Speaker C: Great to be back with everyone.
[00:01:57] Speaker B: We have Mark. Oh hi Mark.
[00:01:58] Speaker D: What's up guys?
[00:01:59] Speaker B: And I'm Sav.
Last week got the first full length LP from Sonic Youth from 1983. I wasn't really following them as much as I kind of thought I knew their bigger stuff. Later on I didn't realize really how long they'd been around. So that was definitely a big surprise to to me. Ultimately I think the album, it isn't sounding necessarily like the stuff that I heard in the 90s considering it was 83 and kind of having read a little description of it before we started, it makes sense. Definitely not something very, very accessible. Not bad. And you can hear the creativity without a doubt in it. I would say that Frank is definitely giving it the highest scores. I'm kind of middle and Mark is the lowest for now. But I think Mark scores are definitely a pret appreciative of what's going on, even if he's not exactly liking everything. Right Mark?
[00:02:43] Speaker D: Yeah, it's not my thing, but I do understand why they're important to bands that I like. Later can see parts of stuff that other bands have taken from them. So as far as that goes, I get it. It's not something I kind of listen to and maybe I would like more stuff in the 90s than I would like here, but they're A new band. And they're trying to figure their way out too. But, you know, it's very noisy, it's very out of tune. I'm sure on purpose, from what I gather in that genre of music, it's kind of frowned upon if you're actually good at your instru. It's like being in punk, right. If anyone who's in punk, they want it to be raw and just in your face, maybe the sloppier to play, the better it is. So that's why I'm not particularly on that too much. We'll see what side two does.
[00:03:20] Speaker B: And Frank, you're. You're definitely digging it, right?
[00:03:22] Speaker C: 100%. The music style for that era. Much different sounding than we were listening to at that time. When I hear this Sonic Youth, to your point, Zav, I thought I was into them. I didn't realize they were long. They were around this long. I've always categorized them along with, like the Dinosaur Juniors of the World, the Mud Honeys and groups like that. I'm liking it. You can definitely hear a lot of how they influenced a lot of people, a lot of bands later on.
[00:03:42] Speaker B: Absolutely. I mean, a lot of the bands talk about how Sonic Youth influenced them. And you can hear it here. I mean, as early as this album, you can hear it. We definitely heard some tinges of Nirvana here. You know, there's always some. Some got things. If you go back to even the Cure around this era, they were kind of doing stuff like this. I mean, it's cool. It's kind of a curveball in sense. Again, to prove it's random. We're not getting two of their biggest albums that came out in the 90s. We got their debut LP. If this doesn't prove it's random, nothing does. Before we get to side two, typically we spin the baby wheel. We call it the new BET section and picks something random as well. For us, a single. But we read this week that BTO has released a new song after 40 years. I'd read on it and I spoke to Mark and Frank and said, hey, do you guys just want to kind of throw this up and see what it sounds like? It's been 40 years. We know at least two or three songs from them, if not more. So I figured, why the hell not? And they cool with it. Do you still want to do the intro?
[00:04:34] Speaker C: In a world where new music is not easy to find, welcome to New Bets.
[00:04:53] Speaker B: I don't even know what is the song called?
[00:04:54] Speaker D: Mark, you found it 60 years ago. We Listened to a little bit of the last single they put out from 84, 85, whatever it was, I think 85, what'd you think of that?
[00:05:04] Speaker B: I definitely found it of the era. It did, actually. I didn't know that they were a Canadian, believe it or not. But it did kind of remind me of Lover Boy. Kind of had that vibe and could picture that song, song being played on mtv without a doubt. I just. I don't remember hearing it or ever seeing. Well, 84. Who the hell even had cables? Frank, what did you think of it?
[00:05:21] Speaker C: Very 84. You could tell the 80 sounds for sure. So I can't wait to hear what they're going to sound like now if they're going to carry over that same sound.
[00:05:30] Speaker B: Curious too. Let's see, with the production and everything. Mark, what are you expecting, high or low here?
[00:05:34] Speaker D: It's a little interesting to have someone release a single 40 years down the road, you know, I'm sure. I think they have a couple people passed away. I know some original people still in there. We'll see, I guess.
[00:05:44] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:05:44] Speaker D: This is 60 years ago by Bachman Turner Overdrive.
[00:06:03] Speaker E: I went back home things were not the same. You can't cross the street at Portage and Main those cross crossroads where the winds would blow Was Canada's home of rock and roll Me and Burton turn me up the Cassew Overdrive in Buffalo Springfield Teenage dreams of rockin rough we never thought we'd get this old 60 years ago so damn cold and so much snow 60 years ago.
[00:06:43] Speaker F: We rock.
[00:06:44] Speaker E: That roll Living on the road never getting back home Breaks you down kills your heart and soul when 1970 was over and done American woman was number one back to the prairie town fighting to survive Cut me and turn her into overdrive One thing left still on my mind there's always one more mountain.
[00:07:11] Speaker F: To climb 60 years ago summers were.
[00:07:18] Speaker E: Hot, those winters were cold 60 years.
[00:07:22] Speaker F: Ago so good it never got old.
[00:07:28] Speaker E: So damn cold and so much snow we stayed inside we rocked and rolled 60 years ago.
[00:07:46] Speaker F: Sama so many heartaches.
[00:08:15] Speaker E: That just won't heal so many what went wrong and the road of life goes on he was still rocking after all these years but he did so run away his tears and looking back at the prairie town it sure looks different now than 60 years ago when you bow down and set the load.
[00:08:45] Speaker F: 60 years ago we're on earning a.
[00:08:50] Speaker E: Place a rock and roll so damn cold and so much snow we stayed inside and rocked and rolled 60 years.
[00:09:01] Speaker F: Ago yeah, you stay inside and rock.
[00:09:06] Speaker E: And Rol.
[00:09:44] Speaker B: They did the fade for you. Is it me? The production's a bit weird, isn't it?
[00:09:48] Speaker D: I don't know what's going on. The vocals sound like someone's singing in a tin can.
[00:09:52] Speaker B: Yeah, it's weird, but the whole song sounds. I don't know. I'm not. I want to say, not in the studio, but almost in the back of the studio, you know what I mean? And kind of the mics weren't really close to them.
[00:10:03] Speaker D: Sounds like they put pops and clicks in there, like it was on a record. Playing was good. I mean, that sounds like what I would think Bachman Turner Overdrive should sound like. So that's the positive. I don't think the song is bad and I think the playing's good. Even they make a whole record like that that would be great for them at this stage of their career to sound that good.
[00:10:20] Speaker B: Well, you know who played the guitar solo?
[00:10:22] Speaker D: Neil Young. Frank, what'd you think?
[00:10:24] Speaker C: They sound pretty much how I remember them. Like with the Taking Care of Business. It sounds very similar in that piano opening part. I don't know. It's okay. I mean, it's not my jam, but it's not bad.
[00:10:35] Speaker B: Yeah, it's all right.
[00:10:37] Speaker D: It sounds like them. And that's not that easy to do when you're a legacy band trying to come up with something new. I think that's the impressive part. I mean, I'm not too happy with the way it sounded. Besides that, if you can get past that part of it, it. I thought they did a great job to make it sound like Bachman Turner Overdrive. It sounds like they're from the 70s. It sounds like a 70s song.
[00:10:55] Speaker B: I mean, the sun is in it. Tell Backman is in it. I don't know. Does Coco. I don't know if that's his wife. The bass player, who was actually a founding member, was in it. It's a party song, kind of. It's about Winnipeg, so it's like a dedication, because that's where they're from. So it's kind of like a. An homage to. It even mentions, like, a specific street in the beginning.
[00:11:13] Speaker D: I think they did a really good job. All right, let's rubber stamp this. Here we go.
[00:11:18] Speaker C: In a world where new music is not easy to find, welcome to New Bets.
[00:11:36] Speaker B: Now we get back to an album that is pretty much as far away from what we just listened to as you can possibly get. We have the Second side of Confusion is Sex from Sonic Youth. Again, I'm curious to Hear what goes on on the second side. I'm expecting pretty much more of the same.
[00:11:53] Speaker D: This song is called Inhum.
[00:12:15] Speaker E: Sa.
[00:13:16] Speaker F: My thought is a pad time my mind was.
[00:14:01] Speaker B: I am totally digging this song. I really am. It reminds me of Pill a bit. I'm digging it. Mark, what do you think so far?
[00:14:08] Speaker D: I have to be very honest about this.
[00:14:10] Speaker B: Please.
[00:14:11] Speaker D: I do hear a lot of stuff that happened in the 90s here, but in a very confused, schizophrenic way. I don't know. It's really not my thing. It's really, really, really not my thing. I can't get past the music being like out of tune and the stuff being weirdly dissonant. I don't know, it's just not me. But I do hear things in there that I heard that other people probably stole from them in the 90s. In that case I understand. But I'm saying that through the whole record, this is not something for me. That's the best I can say.
[00:14:39] Speaker B: I don't know if we have any pill on our list, but if you get some of the earlier stuff, man, you're going to be shaking your head too. You.
[00:14:45] Speaker D: Yeah, I am shaking my head here.
[00:14:47] Speaker B: I'm bobbing my head, believe it or not. I'm going, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:14:52] Speaker D: You can definitely tell there's no metronome because this was slow in the beginning, then went forward, which is fine. I have no problem with there not being a metronome or a click track. I'm okay with that. I just don't know what I would do with this. I'm going to read the lyrics because of the. Basically just two verses and choruses. The same thing. So here it goes. My body is a pastime My mind is a simple joy I learned my lesson the hardest way but you don't know me but you don't know me A complete inhuman Complete inhuman Complete inhuman Complete inhuman. I went from the most lyrics to no lyrics and two albums. Frank, what do you think about this?
[00:15:27] Speaker C: I'm digging it.
This is really great. Again, you just hear how influential they were to pains that follow them several years later. I like it a lot. I'm enjoying it.
[00:15:36] Speaker B: I read here Thurston Moore plays bass and sings on this song while guitars. Lee Ronaldo plays modified zither. This zither now resides in the permanent collection of the Rock and Roll hall of Fame in Cleveland. And to achieve a properly up vocal sound more fed his microphone into a blown out amp. In addition, Jim Sclavenus recorded His snare drum part in the studio bathroom to get the right tone. I love like that. Whether it's a song you love, don't love, whatever. But just hearing those things and picturing those things, it's just so cool.
[00:16:08] Speaker D: Here we go. Let's finish it out.
[00:18:00] Speaker B: Like that ending, too. How long was that one?
[00:18:03] Speaker D: That was a little over four minutes.
[00:18:05] Speaker B: It didn't feel that long to me at all. I mean, I was digging it. There's probably no more words to read, right? It sounds like he kind of repeats everything thing.
[00:18:11] Speaker D: Yeah. No, there's only one set of lyrics and that's it.
[00:18:13] Speaker B: I'll go first. I'm going to say a six on the lyrics and an eight on everything else. I really like that one. My kind of jam. I'll let Frank go next and then Mark. You can go last, Frank.
[00:18:25] Speaker C: I'm going to do the same. Six on the lyrics, eight across the board. Really digging it. Wow. Ever since we got this album, I just wonder be digging it as much during that time as I do now. So far. I love it, Mark.
[00:18:37] Speaker B: Be honest, Mark. It's cool.
[00:18:39] Speaker D: I don't know what I'm supposed to do here.
[00:18:40] Speaker B: Be honest. It's not about what it represents or what it was. There was other stuff that was out there that was like this. Judge it honestly. If you were. You're as you hearing that, someone's like, hey, man, check this out. And they don't tell you anything about it. You have no idea where it is in history or whatever.
[00:18:54] Speaker D: Can't go that low on this list. I'm not going to give it zeros. Oh, my God.
[00:18:59] Speaker B: I know you're going to give it zeros.
[00:19:02] Speaker D: It sucks. I don't really like this music at all. It's not my thing. I find very few redeeming qualities here for me. Hey, but that's just me.
[00:19:11] Speaker C: That's.
[00:19:12] Speaker D: But again, I have to rate it on what it did to other bands that I like. They took the parts, the things that were okay here and made it better than the sum of the parts that this is. That's my opinion. Whatever Nirvana took out of this, whatever other bands that became popular later took out of this, they took this stuff and made it better. That's my opinion. Or at least more mainstream and maybe more cohesive and more focused. I don't know. I saw some live stuff this week from them and I didn't like that.
[00:19:40] Speaker B: Very much from this era.
[00:19:42] Speaker D: No, but it didn't matter. It was later on. And they were probably better musicians at that Point, they weren't as young, so they were probably better musicians. I could just imagine what this was when this was happening. People are not going to like what I have to say. I'm going to be very nice about this, and I'm just going to give it fives across because I can't really consciously give it more than that. But again, I did hear stuff that I remembered that probably got stolen besides that and just not my thing. I just don't know what to do with this. I don't know what. What else to say. I'm going to probably say this for the next four songs. Three songs, whatever's left.
[00:20:13] Speaker B: Listen, it's. It's not completely accessible. I mean, who knows what accessible is? Obviously, that's in the ear, the interpreter. I think we all want to be honest, and I know that there's times where we kind of have given things better scores out of respect and things like that. But listen, if you don't like something, you don't like it. It doesn't matter. It's like a piece of art or a movie. Movies that everybody says, oh, my God, this is like one of the best movies ever. And you watch it like, right? Or a piece of art. You're like, look how beautiful this is. Like, okay. It's all about being honest. Fives are pretty good.
[00:20:48] Speaker D: I would like to like it because I've heard of them forever.
[00:20:51] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:20:51] Speaker D: And this is why I probably have never heard them, because I might have heard piece and went, oh, no. But you're saying the stuff in the 90s was a little different than this, I assume.
[00:20:58] Speaker B: I don't know a lot of. I mean, I think maybe Frank knows more stuff than I didn't know a lot of stuff. Honestly speaking, Thinking about, you know, Bull in the header, which was a really big MTV song, even that really doesn't have a lot going on. The production is better. I would.
[00:21:11] Speaker D: Is it on time? Does other guitars in tune? Like, yeah, like. You know what I mean? Was it produced?
[00:21:17] Speaker B: If you hear it, you'll know it because it was a massive MTV song.
[00:21:21] Speaker D: Alrighty. All right, let's go to the next one. This is the world looks red this.
[00:22:13] Speaker E: Place in the park where my body is too much to bear the memory.
[00:22:18] Speaker B: Drink life in the dark Just thought of curious remark before that little thing you did think comes at the end. Did you find that any more accessible, kind of, or closer to something unified?
[00:22:55] Speaker D: That was better. It was at least somewhat cohesive of some sort. I'd like that better if there's Anything to say? I'm not still a little dissonant for me, but I understand. At least it's more of a song as opposed to just noise. I think a lot of their stuff is just noise for the sake of noise, and I guess that's the movement that they're in. I guess. Guess this is a little bit better as far as that goes. So, yeah, I do like this a little bit better. Obviously, vocals and not anyone's forte here of any kind other than that. Can get a little more on board with this. I don't know. Is that what you wanted to hear?
[00:23:28] Speaker B: It sounded a little bit more like that. You know what I mean? So I was like, I'm thinking maybe he'll find a little bit more of that thread. I guess you want to call it, like, kind of straight thread.
[00:23:37] Speaker D: It's still weird, though. It's very weird, though. It probably wasn't accessible at the time either. I think it's more accessible now than it is then.
[00:23:44] Speaker B: Yeah. I mean, but listen, there was other ST stuff out there like this. Whether or not any of us would have been listening to it. I don't know anyone that we know that was listening to this back then. Without a doubt. I don't think we would have had any exposure to it, honestly. Frank, what do you think of this one so far?
[00:23:57] Speaker C: It's not my favorite.
It's okay. To your point, Sav. I mean, I don't think we would have known anybody listening to this music, this genre during that time. This song, so far, it's okay.
[00:24:07] Speaker D: I feel so weird now. I like this song more, but no one likes this. It's so strange.
[00:24:12] Speaker B: No, I don't think it's bad.
[00:24:14] Speaker C: It's just not as good as the other ones that we've heard so far.
[00:24:16] Speaker B: I don't think it's good as the one before, but I don't think it's bad either. It's kind of in between right now. Like, I'm. I want to hear more to see how it. How it goes.
[00:24:24] Speaker C: Exactly.
[00:24:24] Speaker D: Again, the best positive about this is no lyrics. So I can just read one time and I can just listen to the rest of the song. This is nothing for me to actually even read. So here's all the lyrics that they're going to just repeat. Push it away. The world looks red People with fish eyes the ground sucks Walk on my fingertips Displacing the fog the weight of my body is too much to bear the memory drained the life from the doll an ocean of insects worked like a Sheet the immovable fact Buried my mind in the horsehair coat in a pile on the floor I mean, I don't think the lyrics are bad. I'm trying to make some kind of imagery there. I don't know exactly what he's trying to push into my face. I can at least say that lyric wise, it's fine. I mean, there's not really much of a melody. I mean, I guess you could call it a melody sort of. Guy. I don't know. It's just not my thing, man. I just. I'm trying to be very respectful to what they've done and who they influence. Because there are bands that I do like that they're 100% influenced by Sonic Youth. It just wouldn't have been me. Just.
[00:25:23] Speaker B: You can't force yourself to like something. Either you like it or you don't.
[00:25:26] Speaker D: Very true. Let's finish this out, cuz this is like a two minute something song. So we'll be done literally like in a minute and a half. So here we go.
[00:26:50] Speaker B: So Mark, in case you were wondering how they got those tones that you so much enjoy in this one, it says that this is the first song in which Moore used the guitar tempered with the broken drumstick shoved through the strings. A favorite technique of the bands.
[00:27:04] Speaker D: The sound that way.
I don't hate the dissonance there. I think this is a little more palatable. I kind of understand what he's trying to do. Again, this is noise rock. It's meant to sound this way. It's meant to be a little unnerving. It's meant to not be as pleasant as whatever pop and rock is around at the moment. They're the ante to whatever is around. I can kind of get with that. I'm gonna go first. I don't think the lyrics are bad. Not that there's a lot of them. So I'm gonna say six on the lyrics. The melody's okay. I actually don't hate his voice on this. I think it's better than the last one. So I'm gonna give that a five for me. Melody. I appreciate the weirdness of the music and the tone, so I'm gonna give that a seven. Arrangement's fine. Gonna do that six. And I think it's produced one of the best out of all the things that we've heard so far. So I'm gonna give that a 7 too. SAF.
[00:27:48] Speaker B: I think I'll go sevens across. I liked it going into that weird little guitar part. I was like, okay, this is A little bit much. But then, like going back into it, everything just sounded right to me. I'm gonna do sevens across.
[00:28:01] Speaker C: Yeah, it's Steve.
[00:28:04] Speaker B: And it's Quintuple seven Nikki Titty Baby. I gotta play that for him. I always forget to play for him. Frank.
[00:28:11] Speaker C: Not bad. It's just not my favorite one that we've heard so far over the last two nights. Lyrics. I'm gonna give the lyrics six. Actually. I'm just gonna go six across on this one again. It's not terrible. It's just when you compare it to the other songs on this album, it's just not as close. Good. I like the bass, though. I mean, I'm surprised. Sav, you haven't mentioned anything about the bass playing.
[00:28:31] Speaker B: I did like it in this one. I know I should have mentioned that and I didn't.
[00:28:35] Speaker C: Yeah, the bass was really solid here.
[00:28:37] Speaker B: Agreed. Six across.
[00:28:39] Speaker C: Just because when you stack it up against the other songs on this album, just not as.
[00:28:43] Speaker D: Okay. Very cool. This almost sums up the whole album for me. The name of the song, which is Confusion is Next.
[00:28:52] Speaker F: Sa.
I maintain that Chaos is the future and beyond it is Freedom.
Confusion is next and next after that is the truth.
You got the cult of it. I watch you need to sonic to sonic 2.
[00:30:06] Speaker B: This one might be a bit much for me. I kind of like the music going into it. I wish his voice was a little bit less dissonant because I think it would serve the song better. Me personally, this one, I'm having a little bit of. A little bit of problems with Mark. I think you're. You're probably loving this one, right?
[00:30:21] Speaker D: Strangely enough, I'm not loving it. I do understand this is an actual song that has verses and choruses sort of, kind of. I think if he used the voice from the last song in this song, it would have been better. His voice is really too out of key for me. The guitar is so weird. It's so weird. It's good weird. Is that strange to say?
[00:30:41] Speaker B: No, look, I'm kind of digging the music.
[00:30:43] Speaker D: Just weird. Out of tune. Dick Starr. I actually have words I have to read. This is strange. So verses. I maintain that chaos is the future and beyond it is freedom. Confusion is next and next after that is the truth. Chorus. You gotta cultivate what you need to need. Sonic tooth. Sonic tooth. Sonic tooth. Frank, what are you thinking of this so far?
[00:31:07] Speaker C: Yeah, I'm with Sav. This is a little bit too much for me. Not digging it so far, but may perhaps as it continues to play on And I might like it, but. Yeah, a little bit much.
[00:31:16] Speaker D: Can I tell you? I'm fucking confused. I don't understand how this is too much for you.
Can you explain to me why I'm wrong here? I just don't understand why this is not better than two songs ago.
[00:31:28] Speaker C: I don't know. It's. It was a different sound to me. A different sound. This one. I don't know. We'll see. Continue playing. It might grow to me so confused.
[00:31:37] Speaker D: Okay, here we go.
[00:31:44] Speaker F: Mouth.
Squeeze your tongue and rant it out from. It's ugly fucking cancer. It's ugly fucking cancer.
[00:32:03] Speaker D: Gross.
[00:32:12] Speaker F: Me. Silent toes, silent toes.
[00:33:15] Speaker E: Stick your finger in your mouth.
[00:33:46] Speaker B: Since we stopped and came back to it. I like that part. I like this second half of the song better than the first. That resonated with me, and I was like Bob in my head when the song first started. I was hoping they would do, like, a slow melody time, and it was cool, and I was. I was happy that they did that. Maybe the mixture of that and his voice just wasn't clicking. And then once they kind of sped it up, it just. It started resonating with me. So I definitely like the second part of it better than the first. What? What do you think, Mark? Did it still kind of keep you.
[00:34:15] Speaker D: I mean, it was fine. I was surprised that that's where they went. Then his melody totally changed. Interesting. And hate it. It's. It's noise for the sake of noise. All right, so the only other part that's different is the verse two, which is stick your fingers in your mouth, squeeze your tongue, and wrench it out from its ugly fucking cancer. Its ugly fucking cancer root. Do we know what this song is about? They're saying what this song is about.
[00:34:39] Speaker B: It was the first song written for the record.
No, I'm not seeing what it was about. More of just that it was the first one.
[00:34:46] Speaker D: I'm gonna have Franco first on this. I want to see where he goes. Frank, go first.
[00:34:49] Speaker C: You see, I like the second part as well. It's the sound that came to appreciate throughout this album so far. And again, the bass playing was just really good on this one as well. I'm gonna go sevens across. I'm glad that they went the direction they went in the second part. It's great to be here. Thank you. It's quintuple seven just for Nicolo. Nikki Titty, baby Be Seth.
[00:35:10] Speaker B: Frank. You should just text him, like, when you're gonna do sevens, and then he can just play that and be like, oh, okay. Yeah, I'm gonna do seven on the lyrics because I thought the lyrics were good. This is a little bit hard because it's kind of like half and half. All right. Yeah, let's do it this way. So I'll do six on the music. I'll do a seven on the arrangement because I do like that second part. A six on the melody and a seven on the production. So it's kind of wavering. I think if that whole song was. Even though, like I said, I kind of wanted the tempo to be slow when I first the song start, but I think it really just kicked in. And if it had been like two minutes of that straight up going, I definitely would have given it higher scores overall. Mark.
[00:35:47] Speaker D: I mean, I hesitate that I say that I like any of this, but I think I'm going to do six on everything except arrangement. I did find it interesting that they decided just to turn into a 180 and go from the slow plotting thing to that fast part. And then he changed the whole melody up. I was like, all right, I can understand that.
[00:36:03] Speaker C: That's.
[00:36:03] Speaker D: I'm going to do sixes and then seven on the arrangement. And now we have reached the end. This is making the nature scene.
[00:36:38] Speaker F: Going back to these origins City is a natural scale Honor in details confusion, opera and the whole nature Reality is selection the tools of critical intervention Fragmentation is the rule Unity is not taught in you are in unnatural growth I'm a funny exciting street City has forgotten you the symbol of his past the meaning of its day the caller of day stand out in the car.
[00:37:44] Speaker B: That'S not bad. I mean, I like the drum sound. I think they sound pretty good. Her voice reminds me a little bit of like Patti Smith. Some of the stuff that she did back in the of day. It's building a little bit up on the guitar. I don't know if they're going to do it, but I think if they kind of switch to a fuller drum sound, it would elevate the song for me. It's okay. Right now. That's. I'm thinking it's okay. Mark.
[00:38:04] Speaker D: This is my favorite song so far.
[00:38:07] Speaker C: Nice.
[00:38:09] Speaker D: I can definitely hear what Nirvana took from them and probably a ton of other grunge bands of that time frame. You can just hear it. It's a little more cohesive. And there's actual lyrics in here, too. This is the whole note, the section. I'm surprised that there's even this much lyrics. And I'll read those and then we'll see what Frankie Thinks going back to these origins. The city is a natural scape. Order in the details, confusion, uproar in the whole, in nature. Reality is selection, the tool of critical intervention. Fragmentation is the rule. Unity is not taught in school. You are an unnatural growth on a funny sunny street. The city has forgotten you. The symptoms of its past, the meaning of its state, its order of decay. Standing now in a column and make the nature scene. I thought those are pretty good.
[00:39:00] Speaker B: Yeah, Lyrics are good.
[00:39:02] Speaker D: To me. This is their most cohesive song in the whole record. The one I can get behind the most. I think. Frank, what do you think?
[00:39:08] Speaker C: Like it? The beginning sound right there. I hear Thunderstruck. As soon as he started playing that. That song.
[00:39:14] Speaker D: Thunderstruck?
[00:39:15] Speaker C: Yeah.
Then, then, then.
[00:39:19] Speaker D: What was it last week? Savino, what did he say? It sounded like girl school.
[00:39:23] Speaker C: Oh, no, no, I didn't say girl.
[00:39:25] Speaker D: Yes, you did.
[00:39:25] Speaker B: No, I think that was. I don't know. Was it last week? Was. Yeah, you said Girl School by Britney Fox.
[00:39:32] Speaker C: Maybe. Play it again.
[00:39:33] Speaker D: You.
[00:39:33] Speaker C: You hear it?
Hear it? I hear.
[00:39:39] Speaker B: I know, typically it's electric boys with electric toys. That. What? Who?
[00:39:42] Speaker C: Pretty Boy Floyd.
[00:39:43] Speaker B: Floyd, yeah.
[00:39:46] Speaker C: No, but I definitely hear it right there. When you. When you in that opening thing, go back and listen to it. The beginning.
[00:39:52] Speaker D: I'll take your word for it. I don't hear any AC DC of any sort in this, but okay.
Okie dokie, here we go.
[00:40:16] Speaker F: Pay.
There is no resistance to the signs along the way Standing all the columns Waiting to make their pay Making the nature see Waiting for the day There is no resistance too There is no there's no resistance to salvation Means to count on you it just means to count on you make that nature see Making that nature see Making that nature.
[00:41:05] Speaker B: See do you hear Thunderstorm now, Mark?
[00:41:09] Speaker D: No, I don't.
[00:41:11] Speaker C: You have to go back to the beginning. You hear it in the beginning.
[00:41:14] Speaker B: Now.
[00:41:15] Speaker D: I don't know if this thing is finished. It stopped for a second, so let's see if it's done. Hold on.
There you go.
[00:41:24] Speaker B: That was quick.
[00:41:25] Speaker D: Yeah, it was quick. It's a fast song. It's just 328, so it's quick. Let me read the finishing lyrics. Standing in all columns. Making the nature scene Making the nature scene Waiting to make their pay There is no resistance to the signs along the way Standing in all columns Waiting to make their pay Making the nature seen Waiting for the day There is no resistance to There is no resistance to salvation Means to count on you it just means to count on you make the Nature seen, unfortunately, it doesn't really go anywhere. I wish it would have changed a little bit. Maybe that's the only criticism I have. It just is very one dimensional. Yeah, but I like the part of it. It's just. I wish they could have done something else.
[00:42:06] Speaker B: I think you should go first, then Mark.
[00:42:08] Speaker D: I was going to give it eights, but now I can't because it doesn't really go where I want it to go. I think I'll give it sevens across. I do like it. Again, I do wish that it would have changed up, but other than that, it's the most cohesive to me on this whole record. So if I did that, that means I have to do this. There's only one way to rock and it's Quinniple seven. Nikki Titty Baby Saf.
[00:42:27] Speaker B: I like that. Quinn Knopple Sevens.
It doesn't say quintuple. Says Quinn Knopple. It was okay. I mean, yeah. I think I kind of wanted to do a little bit more.
[00:42:36] Speaker D: I'm.
[00:42:37] Speaker B: I'm gonna say seven on the lyrics and six on everything else. Not bad. It didn't have as much energy, I think, as some of the other stuff on this side. Frank.
[00:42:44] Speaker C: I'm gonna go sevens all the way across as well. I like the beginning. I like everything about it. What I expected the end album to be and the Sonic used sound to go. Go so really great.
[00:42:53] Speaker B: Yes, that's right. It's me.
I know I've been gone for a long time, but I'm back. And it's Quintuple seven Nikki Titty Baby.
[00:43:01] Speaker D: Now, there is one last thing on here, but I think it's just a loop that was put on after the fact.
[00:43:05] Speaker B: Yeah, I think that's what I read too.
[00:43:07] Speaker D: Yeah. So I don't know if we want to even. Do we want to play a little bit of it so we can hear what it sounds like, Right?
[00:43:11] Speaker B: If you want to.
[00:43:12] Speaker D: Yeah, we'll play a little bit. We won't play the whole thing. We'll play part of it. Here we go. This is Lee is.
[00:44:28] Speaker B: It's cool. A little bit of a horror vibe to it.
[00:44:31] Speaker D: That's more in tune than any other song in the whole record.
Do you want to listen to the rest of it or. We had enough of that.
[00:44:40] Speaker B: How much is in how much left?
[00:44:41] Speaker D: It's like three something. We have about two minutes left.
[00:44:45] Speaker B: It's up to you guys. I mean, I like the beginning of it, but.
[00:44:48] Speaker D: Yeah, let's play it out. Here we go.
[00:47:05] Speaker B: I'd Use it for a soundtrack. Opening or end? Ending.
[00:47:09] Speaker D: Well, I say we vote on it. I say we do music arrangement, production. I'm gonna give it sevens. I thought that was pretty good. Interesting.
[00:47:18] Speaker B: Yeah, I'll do sevens, Frank.
[00:47:22] Speaker C: Yeah, I'm gonna echo the same thing. 7. So it's nice to see Mark give it, you know, give it high scores first.
[00:47:29] Speaker D: Well, it was in tune of some sort, so. Sort of, kind of. So I'm like, all right, Sevens are right there. Just because it's actually in tune. So I was like, all right. It's interesting, especially for that time. It's like, I guess a tape loop for 83. That's pretty cool thing to do.
[00:47:42] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:47:43] Speaker D: I'm happy we got this again. I always say that, but, you know, even though it's not something I would listen to, at least gives me an idea what they do. And then maybe we get another album down the road. Maybe we get a 90s album that I might, you know, attach on to myself a little bit more than this. I don't know what you guys think.
[00:47:59] Speaker B: I thought it was an interesting listen. Well, I mean, I guess it depends on what stuff you're used to, but, I mean, based on whatever. I mean, I definitely have tried to expand my listening. This Songs that I liked, I liked whatever scores I gave was based on whether I liked it in the moment. And, you know, again, there was other stuff like this at the times. I didn't try to base it on. On. On that. And I think I like the second side overall better than. Than the first one, which was something we don't say overall, a lot on this podcast. Frank, what about you? I mean, I know you. You pretty much dug it overall. Yeah.
[00:48:28] Speaker C: Overall, yeah. It's just for its time that this music's out there. Of course, like you said earlier, it's not something that we would have heard or anybody who was listening to this kind of music, just how far ahead of their time they were playing. That style, the influence that it had for bands to come. It's just really, really great to hear. Definitely going to go back and listen to this album a few more times. What about you, Seth?
[00:48:50] Speaker B: I think I would like to go back and revisit this. Maybe try and do it, like, kind of straight through. I mean, I know we've mentioned it here. Sometimes breaking it up, sometimes things don't have the same effect. And sometimes break. Breaking it up helps it better.
It's a short record. It isn't as if, you know, you got to go back and spend an hour listening to this thing. No, I mean, it's very short. I'd be interested in going back and just see how it hits me the second time and see if I still like what I liked and if I liked what I didn't like, more or less. Mark, I know this is going to be on your permanent playlist.
[00:49:19] Speaker D: Oh, yeah, sure it is.
Again though, I am interested to hear some other stuff to see, you know, later on to see if I like any of that.
[00:49:27] Speaker B: Right.
[00:49:27] Speaker D: So I've. Go do your thing.
[00:49:28] Speaker B: So we are part of the Deep Dive Podcast network again, like I always say, great bunch of guys took us in right away. If you want individual podcasts about bands, check them out. You know, Rush, Judas Priest, Uriah Heap, Tom Petty, you name it, it's probably on there. So go check them out. And Mark, where can they find us.
[00:49:44] Speaker D: On the Interwebs Rock pod on all the social media. Rockwelletpodcast.com submitting new bets on the website, Buy some merch, check out the poll polls, put us on your auto download wherever you get your podcast. That way we can get to you when we release a new episode. And Please review us. 5 stars does help us move up the algorithm. And next week we shall be spinning again and probably spinning the little wheel again. Unless some other song comes up that we want to do. But we got a bunch of songs on there that I don't know, obviously, because every song that comes up, I don't know, I'm excited for next week.
[00:50:16] Speaker B: I did forget to say thank you to all listeners. I did forget to mention that at the beginning. As always, we really want to thank anybody who's listening. So I'm sorry for not saying it in the beginning, but absolutely. Thank you. Spread the word, you know, tell us what you like and don't like. Thank you.
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[00:50:35] Speaker C: Yes.
[00:50:36] Speaker D: All right, we'll see you next week.
[00:50:38] Speaker B: Ciao. Ciao.
[00:50:38] Speaker C: Good night.
[00:50:39] Speaker D: Later.
