Episode 216 - Alice Cooper - Welcome To My Nightmare - Part 1

[00:00:02] Speaker A: This is our musical reaction breakdown and commentary analysis of this song. Under Fair Use, we intend no copyright infringement and this is not a replacement for listening to the artist's music. The content made available on this podcast is for educational and informational purposes only, notwithstanding a copyright owner's rights under the Copyright Act. Section 107 of the Copyright act allows limited use of copyrighted material without requiring permission from the rights holders for purposes such as education, criticism, comment, news, reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research. These so called fair uses are permitted even if the use of the work would otherwise be infringing. Now onto the Rock Roulette Podcast. Enjoy. [00:00:55] Speaker B: Ten, 987-65-43210. Happy halloween. [00:01:56] Speaker C: Hey everybody, welcome back to another episode of Rock Roulette Podcast. That's right, the crazy ass podcast that took over 2000 albums. Stuck them in a list, stuck them in a wheel. Every other week we spin the wheel. She picks a record for us and we go through a track by track. We talk about the music, the lyrics, the production, the melody and the arrangement and we give it scores. Just a bunch of friends who love music want to do a podcast and everyone who takes this trip with discovery and rediscovery, we really want to thank you. Keep the listens going. Tell us what you like, what you don't like. Suggest a song for the baby wheel or an album for the mama wheel. We're always listening. A few weeks ago we did a song that was suggested and we all really liked it. Keep the suggestions coming. We are a duo tonight, which hasn't happened in a while. We have Mark oh hi Mark. [00:02:36] Speaker D: What's up guys? [00:02:37] Speaker C: And I'm Seth. Last week we wrapped up Velvet Revolver's debut album and I was definitely pretty happy. I was expecting to like it. I hope to like it. I was scared if I didn't like it I may have gotten beaten up. It was pretty cool. It was actually heavier than I expected. It leaned a little bit more on the STP side which I actually like. Overall, it's pretty strong album. [00:02:59] Speaker D: Mark, I'm glad you liked it. I know I liked it. I forgot a bunch of songs on there but I liked a lot of that stuff. I'd say probably 10 songs a really good in that album and the other three aren't bad, they're just not as good as the other 10. I just thought it was great. I'm glad you liked it. I was worried at one point I was going to say oh boy, Savino going to like this. I figured Guns and Roses, Stone Temple Pods Together would be okay, but I didn't know it was going to happen. [00:03:23] Speaker C: Yeah, I think it leaned a little bit more into the heavy alternative side of things, which I'm definitely cool with. Very happy and organically. If we get the second one, I'm pretty curious to see how that one sounds as well. Before we spin the Mama wheel tonight, as always, we have the New Bets in the Baby wheel. [00:03:39] Speaker B: In a world where new music is not easy to find. Welcome to New Bets. [00:03:55] Speaker D: All right, let's do the New Bets wheel. [00:04:09] Speaker C: Oh, this is very fresh. And actually it ties into what we're going to talk about later. Dead Daisies Lift Me Up Mark, you know anything about this? I know that what's his name is the new singer from Foreigner. [00:04:20] Speaker D: Kelly Hansen's the new singer as so it seems John Karabi's gone. I look at their member list ones. Holy. There's so many people in this band. Temporary. Whatever. So many people. Mark Mendoza, Glenn Hughes. There's tons of people. [00:04:35] Speaker C: Yeah. Who's that guitar player, too, with White Snake. Wasn't he in this as well? [00:04:39] Speaker D: Doug Aldrich is in this now. [00:04:41] Speaker C: Oh, okay. He's still in it. [00:04:42] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:04:43] Speaker C: Yeah, I heard some stuff back in the day. Was it too bad? From what I remember, I don't think [00:04:46] Speaker D: I've heard one lick from them ever. I've heard the name, but I never heard anything from them. I'm excited to hear this. [00:04:51] Speaker C: I'm sure they're on the list. [00:04:52] Speaker D: This is Lift Me up by the Dead Daisies, featuring Kelly Hansen. [00:05:17] Speaker B: You pulling clothes Laughed in my ear Promising nothing Make the moment clear One spin in a room Two shaking hands we already know this was never the plan Lift me up high to the sky Just fall a minute Just fall tonight Bring me down easy Something hold me like a dove Then we say goodbye. Late checkout time Sign off the door Coffee's all gone now we know the score no taxi waste the trips all paid Whisper my name Then you turn away Lift me up high to the sky Just for a minute Just for tonight Break me down easy Something's a I Hold me like hello Then we say goodbye. We say goodbye no mixed speech no last J Just that Lord says we'll be fine. Lift me up high to the sky Just for a minute Just for tonight Break me down easy up there's a side hold me like hello Then we say goodbye. [00:08:07] Speaker C: It's reminiscent of Tangier. I don't know if you remember that band. It reminds me of somebody else as well. I don't know if it's giant. Stuff like that a little bit later on. It's not bad. I mean, the chorus is catchy. The production is a little bland. I feel. I don't think the drums sound that that bad. His voice is very high in the mix. I'd like a crisper production. What do you think? [00:08:27] Speaker D: I didn't think it was too bad. It's very aor like Foreigner. I didn't think it was horrible. Guitar playing was good. I thought the drum sounded decent. Didn't have the crappy drums we normally have. [00:08:39] Speaker C: That scenario that I don't like. [00:08:41] Speaker D: Yeah, it wasn't that bad. I want to listen for more from them. [00:08:43] Speaker C: I've heard some stuff in the past. It wasn't too bad. [00:08:45] Speaker D: Yeah, I thought it was pretty decent. If you like it or if you don't like it, let us know on social media. Let's rubber stamp this in a world [00:08:55] Speaker B: where new music is not easy to find. Welcome to New Bets. [00:09:08] Speaker C: We do get to spin the mama wheel now, but we have a special mama wheel because this episode will air around Halloween. We made a spooky mama wheel. Love it. Love the Halloween season. We took some albums that we thought were a little bit darker themed or darker sounding themed or whatever and put them in a little smaller mama wheel. And we're gonna spin it and do a little Halloween episode. Mark, whenever you're ready. I'm excited. [00:09:40] Speaker D: All right, here we go. Here's the Halloween wheel. [00:10:02] Speaker C: Oh, yeah. Alice Cooper. Welcome to my nightmare. [00:10:07] Speaker B: Cool. [00:10:07] Speaker C: Yeah, she picked a good one. Other than the hits, I really don't know a lot of the old stuff at all. Do you know anything about this one? [00:10:13] Speaker D: No, I know nothing. I'm looking it up right now. It's the first solo album because the Alice Cooper Band broke up in 74. This was released February 28, 1975. It went platinum. Bob Ezrin is the producer. The personnel are Alice Cooper on lead vocals, Dick Wagner on electric and acoustic guitar. Vocals, Steve Hunter, electric acoustic guitar. Prakash John bass, and Panetti Whitey Glan on drums. The two guitar players seem to follow around Bob Ezran. They were on some Kiss stuff. Vincent Price makes an appearance. [00:10:47] Speaker C: Oh, that. [00:10:49] Speaker D: Tony Levin makes an appearance on bass. [00:10:51] Speaker C: Oh, very nice. [00:10:52] Speaker D: This should be good. I hear Alice Cooper stuff. I know 18 and things like that, but I know nothing else. [00:10:58] Speaker C: Unless there's stuff here that I thought I didn't know and knew. Welcome to my nightmare. I know that song. I'm super curious. This is a perfect Halloween record, I think. [00:11:07] Speaker D: Oh, yeah. I think it's Great. Especially since we don't really know very much about this. This is even better. All right, let's do it. Here we go. So this is. Welcome to my Nightmare. [00:11:36] Speaker B: Welcome to my nightmare. I think you're gonna like it. I think you're gonna feel you belong. Vacation unnecessary sedition. You want to feel at home. Cause you belong. [00:12:18] Speaker E: Welcome to. [00:12:19] Speaker C: It's kind of funky. [00:12:21] Speaker D: It is. [00:12:22] Speaker C: That's cool, though. So far I'm digging it. That bring guitar reminds me of the Elder. Yep, that echoey thing. It's funny because I actually remember this song from Beavis and Butt had watched a live video of it. I think that's what's sticking in my head. But it's pretty cool. [00:12:40] Speaker D: So far this reached number 45 on the Billboard Hot 100. It was later played on the Muppet Show. [00:12:46] Speaker C: Oh, nice. [00:12:47] Speaker D: In an episode where Cooper tries to get Miss Piggy and Kermit Silver souls. I'm sure I saw that, but I was really young. I'd have to see that again. [00:12:55] Speaker C: Yeah, I don't remember all that funny. [00:12:59] Speaker D: It's a little disco, it's a little jazz, it's a little funk. I wonder if there's gonna be some hard rock coming up. Production is really, really good, as tends to be with Bob Ezrin. [00:13:09] Speaker C: Yeah, sounds good. [00:13:10] Speaker D: Yeah, sounds really, really good. Verse 1 welcome to my nightmare I think you're gonna like it I think you're gonna feel you belong A nocturnal vacation Unnecessary sedation. You want to Long chorus Welcome to my nightmare Whoa, oh, oh this is what I expect from him. Hearing the other things that I've heard. [00:13:29] Speaker C: This tracks, he's got that theme. He's popular. He's a big influence on a lot of rock. That came after the showmanship. I actually saw him. I keep forgetting that I saw Alice Cooper live. I want to say 1996 or 1997. In Jones beach, there was a hair metal lineup and he was the headliner. I want to say he was good. I just didn't know a lot of this stuff. I felt badly, but ain was there. I think Slaughter. I don't remember who else. I'd have to see if I can dig up the tickets. But he was the headliner. [00:14:01] Speaker D: Well, he was in that phase a little bit at one point. All right, let's continue. Here we go. [00:14:07] Speaker B: Welcome to my breakdown. I hope I didn't scare you. That's just the way we are when we come down. We sweat and laugh and scream here. Cause life is just a dream here. You know inside you feel right at home here. Welcome to my breakdown. You're welcome to my nightmare. There's. Sam. Welcome to. [00:16:09] Speaker C: Gotta tell you, man, if I had some bell bottom pants right now, I go put them on. I'm digging it. It's got a dorsy feel to it as well. I think this is cool. I know this song. I don't think I've ever heard it straight through, though. That's what an Alice Cooper knew by him. [00:16:23] Speaker D: I've heard people pieces of this. I don't think I've heard it through all the way either. It's really good. It's so 70s, though. [00:16:28] Speaker B: Wow. [00:16:28] Speaker C: Yeah. Yeah, it's. It's very cool. And I like. You can hear the way he changes his voice, the deeper whatever. But then you hear that. I think that he does. That's so Alice Cooper. [00:16:39] Speaker D: I think that's coming soon. That voice of his is happening soon. [00:16:42] Speaker C: The musicianship is really good. [00:16:44] Speaker D: Yep. Production's really good. I'm still hearing tons of Kiss in this just because of his production on Destroyer and the Elder and to some extent Revenge. His fingerprints all over that stuff too. And he did Pink Floyd too, didn't he? [00:16:59] Speaker C: He did do some Pink Floyd. Peter Gabriel, he's done. [00:17:02] Speaker D: He's not the type of producer that you don't know he's producing. [00:17:05] Speaker C: Yes, he tells you he's producing. [00:17:07] Speaker D: It's just his sounds. You just hear it and go, wow, that's Bob Ezin. He's not the whatever the band wants to do guy. He's going to tell you what to do. [00:17:15] Speaker C: Yeah, he did the Wall, which is obviously a major monumentous album. You think about things that he's done. You think of something like this, you think of Destroyer, you think of the Wall, these bombastic albums. [00:17:27] Speaker D: He has a style in his production and it all sounds really, really good. You hear everything. Yep, it's awesome. First two. Welcome to my breakdown I hope I didn't scare you. That's just the way we are when we all come down we sweat and laugh and scream here. Because life is just a dream here. You know inside you feel right at home here Chorus welcome to my breakdown Whoa, oh Welcome to my nightmare yeah. Instrumental break, which was interesting. Horns and keyboards and a little bit of guitar. It's pretty cool. I like how they mix all the styles up. Patron just walking through the disco Fever style. [00:18:00] Speaker C: I don't know when Disco hits. I don't think this is Disco E in a sense. I think it's a little bit more funky, kind of like you said, jazzy. But I do picture being the intro of a 70s movie, maybe in a cop movie where you got the swagger character just walking through the club or walking through the street. [00:18:15] Speaker D: It's really, really good. [00:18:16] Speaker C: Yeah, it's good. [00:18:17] Speaker D: All right, let's continue. Here we go. [00:18:19] Speaker B: Nightmare. I think you're gonna like it [00:18:26] Speaker A: I [00:18:26] Speaker B: think you're gonna feel. We're sweating, laugh and scream hell. Cause life is just a dream. You know Inside you feel right at home yeah welcome to my nightmare. Welcome to my breakdown. Sam. [00:20:21] Speaker C: Next week on Nightmare Cops. That's cool. That's a good way to start the record. [00:20:27] Speaker D: Yeah. Great. Great song. This is going to be one of these albums. I'm going to be thinking to myself, why haven't I listened to this in the last 50 years? [00:20:35] Speaker C: I hope so. Hope it is kicked off pretty well. I hope it is. I've watched rankings of Alice Cooper albums from people that I watch on YouTube to get an understanding of maybe where it should start. Other than some of the stuff I've heard. And this is always, I would say, top three. [00:20:48] Speaker D: He does have a little bit of Jim Morrison when he sings that way. [00:20:51] Speaker C: Yep. There's definitely some Dorothy stuff going on here, which I like. I'm a fan of the Door, so I have no problem with that vibe. [00:20:58] Speaker D: Verse 3 welcome to my nightmare I think you're gonna like it I think you're gonna feel you belong we sweat and laugh and scream here Cuz life is just a dream yeah I know inside you feel home here Chorus welcome to my nightmare oh oh, oh welcome to my breakdown yeah why don't you go first? [00:21:14] Speaker C: I think I gotta go sevens across. That's what I was feeling. So I'm just going to go with those. Just go sevens across. [00:21:18] Speaker D: It's great to be here. [00:21:19] Speaker E: Thank you. [00:21:20] Speaker B: It's quintuple 7 just for Nicolo. Nikki Titty baby. [00:21:23] Speaker C: Luckily Frank can chime in. Unfortunately he's not feeling well, which is why he's not here. Hopefully he won't be angry that we're doing this, but maybe next week he can catch up on side too. What are you going to do? [00:21:31] Speaker D: I'm going to do seven across. [00:21:33] Speaker C: Listen up SMFs. That's right, you heard me. Now turn it up you bump beautiful freaks. It's quintuple seven. Nikki Titty baby. [00:21:41] Speaker D: Let's continue our exploration of this album. This is devil's food. [00:22:06] Speaker B: She's gonna be a treat. Simple, slightly till ready. Make her soft too. Make her sweet Lift the tears up from your chest and melt the walls of life to save you forever. I knew your precious life and I know you're. I squeeze the love out of your soul. All the crooked love that's in your soul. You're just another spirit on parole. Devil spoon, you. Devil spoon. [00:23:19] Speaker C: That's cool. It's weird. I wasn't too crazy about all of it, but then it started gelling a little bit. I'm curious to see where it goes. And apparently this is was reading. I've actually heard this before. This is a song where we first learn how Stephen treats his wife. Throughout the album, we learn that Steven is an abusive husband. And this gives us an implicit view on it. I think I've heard about this character Steven, and I forgot about that going into this. [00:23:42] Speaker D: He's cooking people. That's what I think. Oh, yeah, it's really cool. I like the phase stuff that's going on. I like his vocals. The drums are really, really good. I like the sound on that. But everything's good. Guitar is good, bass. There's nothing bad to say about this. [00:23:55] Speaker C: That's interesting. [00:23:56] Speaker D: It's not the same as the last track. The last track had a little more of a funky, disco, jazzy thing. This is more psychedelic rock. I like the way he uses his voice. It's really co. Yeah. And the name of the song, Devil's Food. It's pretty funny if you think about it. Verse 1. Get ready for the lady, she's going to be a treat. Simmer slightly till ready. Make her soft to make her sweet. I kiss the tears off from your chest. I felt the poison fright that's in your breath. I knew your precious life and I know your death. I squeeze the love out of your soul. All the perfect love that's in your soul. You're just another spirit on parole. Chorus. You are devil's food. You are devil's food. You are devil's food. And a screen. Now we're in some weird intrigue area, which I think I'm gonna like. Let's continue. Here we go. [00:25:00] Speaker E: Leaving Lepidopter. Please don't touch the displays. Little boy. [00:25:07] Speaker D: Cute. [00:25:08] Speaker E: Moving to the next isle, we have Arachnida the Spider's our finest collection. This friendly little devil is the Heptothylidae, unfortunately harmless. Next to him, the nasty Lycosa raptoria. His tiny fangs cause creeping ulcerations of the skin. And here, my pride, the Black Widow. Isn't she lovely and so deadly? Her kiss is 15 times as poisonous as that of the rattlesnake. You see her venom is Highly neurotoxic, which is to say that it attacks the central nervous system, causing intense pain, profuse sweating, difficulty in breathing, loss of consciousness, violent convulsions, and finally death. You know, I think what I love the most about her is her inborn need to dominate, possess. In fact, immediately after the consummation of her marriage to the smaller and weaker male of the specie, she kills and eats him. Oh, she is delicious. And I hope he was. Such power and dignity unhampered by sentiment. If I may put forward a slice of personal philosophy, I feel that man has ruled this world as a stumbling, demented child king long enough. And as his empire crumbles, my precious Black Widow shall rise as his most fitting successor. [00:26:49] Speaker C: Vincent Price. Come on. [00:26:51] Speaker D: I'm not even trying to read that. That's not happening. [00:26:55] Speaker C: You don't have to. If this was Vincent Price just speaking over music, give me a whole album of it. I'm cool. Such a unique voice, such a unique character, such a great actor. I like how he built up. He built up. I'm definitely curious to see where it goes after this. [00:27:10] Speaker D: You remember him on Thriller and the little part he had there. It was so small compared to this. This is such a big part. Wearing Thriller. It was only a little piece. Very impactful in the little piece. It was. But this is much better. [00:27:23] Speaker C: Yes. He's really given a lot of space here and deservedly so. [00:27:27] Speaker D: I don't know what to do now because that part was really good. [00:27:30] Speaker C: Is that the end of the song? [00:27:31] Speaker D: Yes. [00:27:32] Speaker C: Oh, okay. Because I heard it building up. I thought it was going to go back into the. The music. [00:27:36] Speaker D: No, it's a lead up into the next song. [00:27:39] Speaker C: Do you want me to go first? [00:27:40] Speaker D: Yeah, you go first. [00:27:41] Speaker C: I want to say 6 in the lyrics because there's not a lot there. Actually. This is nothing to do what he read, though. I'm not counting that. I'm counting the crux of the song, say seven on everything. I was going to go sixes across until I realized that Vincent Price had a speech at the end. I can't give it less than that. [00:27:56] Speaker D: I'm going to do the same. I don't know what to do, but that sounds about right. There weren't a lot of lyrics, but what was there was good Y. This is not really a song to me. This is an in between intro thing. [00:28:06] Speaker C: Yeah, it's like an interlude thing. [00:28:08] Speaker D: All right, next song. As mentioned, the Black Widow. [00:28:11] Speaker B: These words he speaks are true. We're all human. Aries stew. We don't pledge allegiance to the Black Widow. The horror that'll bring the horror of his sting the unholiest of kings the Black Widow Our minds will be his toy and every girl and boy Will learn to be employed the Black Widow Love me yes, we love me Love him Yes, we love him Love me Yes, we love him. [00:29:25] Speaker C: That is great. It's a perfect song going into it. It's a good heavy riff. It's a simple heavy riff, but it works. I like what he's doing. [00:29:33] Speaker D: It's awesome. It's interesting, though. The Black Widow here is a man where technically you would think it would be the woman Black Widow or Scarlett Johansson. I think it's great. Yeah, everything's good. The bass is really good. Everything's good. And the kids in the chorus. [00:29:51] Speaker C: Yep. [00:29:52] Speaker D: Wow. I didn't realize he used that stuff everywhere. I figured he only used it on KISS stuff, but obviously not. [00:29:57] Speaker C: And wasn't it his kids or kid on Destroyer? [00:30:00] Speaker D: It was his kids. [00:30:02] Speaker C: I wonder if that's him here. [00:30:03] Speaker D: I don't know if that's his kids here. That's a good question. [00:30:05] Speaker C: And the first song also had. I was going to mention the little. Like Detroit Rec City has the crash at the end. End. [00:30:12] Speaker D: Well, it shows you. Even if you didn't know, which I think most people do know, that he had a lot to do with that record. When you hear these things, you go, oh, okay. He's used these ideas before in differing places. Intro these words he speaks are true Will all humanaries stew if we don't pledge allegiance to the Black Widow Verse 1 the horror that he brings the horror of his staying the unholiest of kings the Black Widow Our minds will be his toy and every girl and boy Will learn to be employed by the Black Widow Love me, me yes, we love me Love him Yes, we love him Love me Yes, we love him I like how we use Love me Yes, we love me in third person. Then the kids who. I love him yes, we love him it was so smart. [00:30:57] Speaker C: Yeah. Really good. [00:30:58] Speaker D: Who wrote this? This is Alice Cooper, Dick Wagner and Bob Ezran. [00:31:01] Speaker C: Yeah, I was reading something. Dick Wagner. I remember standing in the studio with Bob and Alice and Bob said to me, can you come up with some kind of mid to tempo heavy rock thing? And I said, let's give it a try. Let me give it a try. Plugged in my guitar and just messed around and came up with it. It immediately fit and Alice started singing Black Widow. And later on he had the idea to bring in Vincent Price to do that Talk, which Alice and Bob wrote, they wrote that speech for Vincent Price. But that initial record, writing, the chord changes and stuff, I remember just doing on the spot. Just a momentary inspiration. I wasn't sitting somewhere trying to write a song. It was just a spontaneous combustion on the guitar. [00:31:35] Speaker D: Yeah. Yeah. Amazing you can write something like that just out of the blue. [00:31:38] Speaker E: Rip. [00:31:38] Speaker C: Good stuff. [00:31:39] Speaker D: That's usually how good songs happen anyway. [00:31:41] Speaker C: Yeah. It's not a complicated riff. It's just a good riff. [00:31:44] Speaker D: No, it's real awesome. [00:31:45] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:31:45] Speaker D: All right, let's continue. Here we go. [00:31:48] Speaker B: He sits upon his throne and picks at all the bones of his husbands and his wives he's devoured he stares with a gleam With a lamp Sobs Seen the virgins and the children he's deflowered Love me yes, we love me Love him Yes, we love him we love me yes, we love him. [00:32:51] Speaker C: Great stuff. Really good section. The bass is so good in this, but everything is good. The musicianship is really, really good. [00:32:57] Speaker D: Yeah. I have nothing to complain about here. Everything's really good. Guitar solo was great. I could see why. He uses him in places when other people can't be. Just bring this guy in. He'll just play a good guitar solo. We won't need the other guy. [00:33:09] Speaker C: Yeah, he'll do fine. [00:33:10] Speaker D: Yeah. Verse 2. He sits upon his throne and picks at all the bones with husbands and his wives he's devoured he stares with a gleam With a laugh so obscene at the virgins and the children's he's deflowered Chorus is the same guitar solo. I'll read the third verse and then we'll listen through it. Verse 3. Our thoughts are hot and crazed Our brains are webbed in haze Our mindless, senseless days the black widow these words he speaks are true we're all humaneries do if we don't pledge allegiance to the black widow this is going to be good. I want to hear the end. We got a minute and a half. Here we go. [00:33:43] Speaker B: My thoughts are hot and crazed Our dreams are webbed in haze Mindless, senseless days Like a black widow these things he says are true we're all human Aries too if we don't pledge allegiance to the black widow Widow. The black widow. [00:35:02] Speaker C: I wasn't 100 crazy about that thing before the end. I like the way it ended. It doesn't ruin the song for me. It's a good song. [00:35:10] Speaker D: All right, I'll go first. I have no choice. Seven's across. [00:35:13] Speaker C: Quintuple seven. Nikki, Titty, baby, wait. Quintuple means five, right? So that's 35 Nikki Titty babies. Man, I gotta lie down. I'm actually think I'm gonna do eight on the music and seven on everything else. I really like that riff. I love the drumming and the bass playing. That's a good. SO was good so far. I'm glad. I was hoping it was going to be good. [00:35:37] Speaker D: The more I hear this, the more I hear stuff that is in Destroyer. It's so funny. And since I don't really listen to a lot of Alice Cooper, I would never make that connection unless I had heard Destroyer and then came back to this and went, wow, that's just so interesting how he puts his stamp on things. [00:35:53] Speaker C: Do you remember when we did the Elder and we talked about stuff from the wall that was on the Elder? You could hear some of that on there. [00:36:00] Speaker D: All right, let's keep it going. This is Some folks, [00:36:11] Speaker B: Some folks love to see red Some folks never talk about it Some folks crave a blue lady Some folks folks no still they [00:36:26] Speaker C: doubt it [00:36:29] Speaker B: I'm just no good without it I'm not a man at all it makes my skin crawl. Baby, baby come on and say sa. [00:37:08] Speaker C: This is okay. I mean, after what's come before it sounds slightly goofy. [00:37:12] Speaker D: It's interesting nonetheless. [00:37:14] Speaker C: It is interesting. It just. I wanted to keep on that trend that it was to going, going. The music is funny when the lyrics are not. It isn't as if the subject seems to have changed. It's more like a show tune, if anything, which I guess fits in. I'm not saying it doesn't fit in, but I've liked it where it was. Let's see. I mean, it could grow on me. [00:37:32] Speaker D: I'm not too sure exactly what's going on here, lyric wise. I'm reading some stuff about the Blue lady, which is heroin. People love to see red. That's about blood, supposedly. It's very campy. [00:37:42] Speaker C: Yeah, don't laugh. Blue Lady, I thought was necrophilia. She was dead. That's what I thought. [00:37:52] Speaker D: Yeah. This is a super campy song. I like it for what it is. It's campy. I don't know if I like it better than the stuff for it. It's not bad. It sounds great. It's played great. [00:38:00] Speaker C: Oh, yeah. Definitely played well. It's full sounding. [00:38:03] Speaker D: I think a lot of his stuff is campy, though. [00:38:05] Speaker C: Well, I don't know. I don't know enough. [00:38:07] Speaker D: Even the big hits and stuff that I've heard, those have been campy too. Really? If you think about it, school's out 18. It's kind of campy. It's the time too. This is mid-70s, 75. This is right along what's going on. But he has a style. You expect it to be heavier. I expect it to be heavier hard rock. And it's not. [00:38:25] Speaker C: The other stuff was the song before. This was heavier than I was expecting. I think I was thinking probably some classic rock sounding. But that was definitely a little bit in the heavier vein. I think, from what I was expecting. Yeah, this is, like I said to me, it's kind of like a show tune. I think this is somewhat of a concept album. It isn't far fetched. I'm just not digging it as much as what's come before. [00:38:45] Speaker D: It's a musical theater song. Supposedly. There were talks about this being made into a musical theater thing. I could see that. Especially with a song like this, with the finger snaps. [00:38:55] Speaker C: I can see it. Definitely. [00:38:57] Speaker D: Verse 1 Some folks love to see red Some folks never talk about it Some folks crave a blue lady Some folks know and they still doubt it Pre Chorus I'm just no good without it I'm not a man at all it makes my skin crawl Chorus Baby baby, come on and save me Save me my baby baby come on and save me now all right, let's see. We can figure out what's going on here. Let's continue. Here we go. [00:39:20] Speaker B: Some folks love to feel pain Some folks wake up every morning Some folks live for no reason Some folks die without a warning I'm just no good without it I'm not a, a man at all it makes my skin crawl. Baby, baby, come on and save me Savior Baby, baby, come on and save me now I can't live without it Just can't live without it I don't want to think about it don't want to think about it I just can't live without it I can't eat that kettle I can't live without I just can't. Yeah, nothing to ok. [00:41:05] Speaker C: That part where it changed sample. That was great. I really like that part. I like the music in that. I have something in my head of what I'm supposed to be singing over this, and I can't think of what it is. It's so obvious to me. I can't remember what I'm singing over it. [00:41:22] Speaker D: The more it goes on, the more I like it. It's very catchy. [00:41:25] Speaker C: It is. It's fun. [00:41:27] Speaker D: Verse 2 Some folks love to feel pain Some folks wake up every morning Some folks live for no reason Some folks die without waring Pre chorus is the same. Chorus is doubled. The bridge is. I can't live without it I just can't without it I don't want to think about it don't want to think about it I just can't live without it I can't live solo. And then basically what's going to happen is pre chorus and chorus out. Let's finish it up. [00:42:07] Speaker B: Baby, baby, come on and save me Save me My my baby baby come on and save me Save it My my baby baby come on and save it Save it My my baby baby baby, come on Sa Just can't live without it I just can't live without it and I I don't want to think about it I don't want to think about it no I just can't live live without it I don't want to do what I think about it now I just can't live without. [00:43:14] Speaker C: I really like that part. If the song was in that vein, I'd be singing a different tune. Overall, it's not bad. It's fun more than anything else. [00:43:22] Speaker D: That weird change of up at the end. He loves to do that, doesn't he? [00:43:26] Speaker C: I like that part. [00:43:27] Speaker D: I don't know if that's him or Ezrin. I'm not sure who does that, but it's really cool. [00:43:31] Speaker C: Yeah. I mean, I liked it in the middle of the song, too. [00:43:33] Speaker D: I forgot to mention, I like the guitar that plays behind the verses. Just mirrors the vocals. That was pretty cool. And all guitar playing was really, really good. [00:43:40] Speaker C: Yep. No musicians are really good on this record. For sure. [00:43:42] Speaker D: I'll go first. I'm gonna do sixes on everything. Music. I'm gonna do seven. I think it's really good. I could have done sixes across, but I think the music is so good. I have to give the music 7s. [00:43:51] Speaker C: I'll say 5 on lyrics and 6 on everything else. It's okay. It's not bad, though. It doesn't suck. [00:43:58] Speaker D: No, I think it's really good. Again, I don't know what my expectations are with Alice Cooper you expect because of his theatrical look and the way he looks. And it's. Everything's going to be really heavy and dark and not really. It's campy and upbeat and it's kind of funny. All right, we're at the end of the first side. Here we go. This is only women bleed. [00:44:30] Speaker B: Man got his woman to take his seat he got the power oh, she got the need she spends her life through Pleasing up a man Feed some dinner oh, anything she can she cries alone at night too often he smokes and drinks and don't come home at all Only women bleed Only women bleed Only women bleed. [00:45:22] Speaker C: I definitely know the title. I don't know if it reminds me of something else or if I've actually heard this one before. It's okay. The melody is okay. I'm not judging it yet, because especially now with the drums coming in, I'm curious to see where it goes. [00:45:33] Speaker D: It was an interesting title. I thought it meant something that it's not. This was a single, believe it or not. Not. They had to change it to Only Women from Only Women Bleed because they couldn't really do that in 1975. But it's not about menstruation. It's about an abusive marriage. Meaning bleeding, I assume is he hits her and she bleeds. [00:45:52] Speaker C: Yeah, you can take it different ways, right? It's not about that. It's about something else. It's about domestic abuse. [00:46:00] Speaker D: People protested it, which just makes sense. You read the name and you don't know it's from this guy who wears makeup and chops people's heads off on stage. So have snakes. And what do you expect to happen? But, you know, as Gene Simmons says, all press is good press. As long as you spell my name right. [00:46:13] Speaker C: I wonder too, if people, based on his act and everything, would think, yes, the only Women Bleed. Fine. But then you can also be like, oh, what is like a slasher? You know what I mean? Like his thing as well, Especially based on what's going on in the album, which I'm sure people didn't listen to. [00:46:26] Speaker D: Yeah. So they had a shortened version of this song, which was the single. In this version, there is an orchestral movement, which is. Bob is probably in the middle, I would assume. It does remind me of something, but I don't know. Like you said, did I hear this song or do I have a melody that this song sounds like? [00:46:41] Speaker C: Ye. What I'm trying to figure out. [00:46:43] Speaker D: Yeah, I'm not sure yet. First one. Man got his woman to take his seed he got the power oh, she got the need she spends her life through Pleasing up her man she feeds him dinner or anything she can pre. Chorus. She cries alone at night too often he smokes and drinks and don't come home at all Chorus. Only women bleed Only women bleed Only women bleed now the drums are coming in. I want to see where this goes. Let's continue. Here we go. [00:47:06] Speaker B: Man makes your hair gray He's a your life's mistake all you're really looking for an even break. He lies right at you, you know you hate this game. Slaps you once in a while and you live in love and pain. She cries alone and I too often he smokes and drinks and don't come home at all. Only women bleed Only women bleed Only women bleed. Black eyes all over time don't spend a dime, clean up this grime. And you there down on your knees begging to please come watch me please. [00:48:46] Speaker C: If you listen to the lyrics, it's blatantly obvious what the song is about. There's no hiding and it isn't even written from a masochistic standpoint. The guy's an. [00:48:55] Speaker D: Well, people just look at the name, [00:48:57] Speaker C: they look at the title, look at [00:48:59] Speaker D: the title and they go, oh, we know what this is about. Let's just protest this. [00:49:02] Speaker C: Which you probably said, hey, I'm gonna write a song about this. I'm gonna call it this. I bet you people are gonna freak out and not even listen to what I'm saying, which is what happened. [00:49:11] Speaker D: It's publicity. Good publicity, bad publicity. You like us or you hate us. As long as you're not in the middle, that's all we want. Verse 2. Man makes your hair gray, he's your life's mistake. All you're really looking for is an even break. He lies right at you, you know you hate this game. Slaps you once in a while and you live in love and pain. Pre chorus is the same, Chorus is the same. Then that orchestral part in the middle. Boy, again, I got flashbacks. Backs to destroyer on that. And the bridge is Black eyes all the time, don't spend a dime, clean up this grime. And you there down on your knees, begging me please come watch me bleed. And I guess the chorus is going to be the outro. Let's finish it up. We got 47 seconds. Here we go. [00:49:50] Speaker B: Only women bleed. Only women bleed. Only women bleed. Only women bleed. Only women bleed. Only women bleed. Only women bleed. [00:50:31] Speaker C: Yeah, not bad. [00:50:33] Speaker D: It went to number 12. [00:50:34] Speaker C: I've definitely know of the song and the verses sound familiar, but I don't remember ever really hearing this song, but it could be. [00:50:44] Speaker D: It sounds very familiar, but I don't know if it's because I've heard the song or it sounds like something else. Only in the verses though. [00:50:52] Speaker C: Agreed. [00:50:53] Speaker D: I think it's a good way to end the side. [00:50:55] Speaker C: It is. It is a good way to decide. [00:50:57] Speaker D: Why don't you go first? [00:50:58] Speaker C: I think I'm Gonna go sixes across. I don't like it as much as some of the earlier stuff, but it's not bad. What do you think? [00:51:05] Speaker D: I was gonna do sixes across too. [00:51:06] Speaker C: And there you go. [00:51:07] Speaker D: His voice is very soft in this. It's just weird how he goes from one extreme to the other extreme. I kind of like that. But it gives you this real weird dysfunction or schizophrenic album. It's just so different from one track to the next, which I usually like and I do like here. It's just I'm expecting to be more macabre. I'm expecting more horror related stuff. And it's not that at all. [00:51:29] Speaker C: Some of it is. And it's funny because I feel that he had range in Trash, which is with Poison, which was a massive album for him. I always thought of, oh, you know, could he carry a lead vocal? I give him credit. He has range. He's at stretching his voice to any weird limit or anything where you're like, oh, boy, he's out of his limit. He's got range. He has a few little things that he does and everything. He's doing pretty well in holding it together. [00:51:52] Speaker D: I think this has been a cool record so far. It says to say that it took this many years for me to listen to this. [00:51:57] Speaker C: My thing was I've always wanted to do it and some albums, we've probably mentioned this before where I've had years of never listening to. I said, I'm not going to do it now. I'm just going to wait for it to come up on the Wheel. [00:52:08] Speaker D: You could be waiting a long, long time. [00:52:10] Speaker C: I know y over 2k. [00:52:13] Speaker D: I don't really know if this is a Halloween album. I know they say it is and that's why it's on the Wheel. But really, I don't find this to be Halloween. I find this just to be a very eclectic bunch of songs put together. And let's side two changes it up. [00:52:25] Speaker C: Any album you got Vin Prize doing a speech. It's funny because I told my wife that we were doing a Halloween. She goes, you're doing Thriller. I said, it's on the Wheel. I said, but that's really the one song though, when you think about it. But the song itself is really. It's named after the song. But there's nothing else that's really deemed like that on the album. [00:52:43] Speaker D: No, this has been cool. I like the stuff that I've heard from him. It's interesting to listen to an album straight through like this. You start to feel what they're trying to do. This Steven guy, does he go through this whole album? Because it doesn't feel very comfortable. Concept is Stephen the guy who's beating people up is Stephen the black widow. Who's Stephen? [00:52:59] Speaker C: I don't know, but there's a song called Stephen on the second side, so maybe this will make sense. [00:53:03] Speaker D: It could be concept, if you think about it. [00:53:05] Speaker C: And I think he's used this guy before or he's used him since. Was Stephen on the album we did? Do you remember? [00:53:12] Speaker D: No, I don't remember. Along came a spider. [00:53:14] Speaker C: Yeah, along came a spider. I wonder if it was the Steven dude. [00:53:17] Speaker D: I don't know. We'd have to go back and look at that again to see if it was related to this. It may be. And all the album Cougar fans are probably yelling at us. Of course it's related. [00:53:24] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:53:24] Speaker D: We know nothing. Don't you understand this already? [00:53:27] Speaker C: Yes, I say it in the beginning. Discovery and rediscovery. This is a discovery for us. We fully admit when we don't know something and things that we should know and just haven't gotten around to it. It happens. [00:53:38] Speaker D: I think this has been good so far. [00:53:39] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:53:40] Speaker D: The two albums that we've done, I really like. The Long King Spider was a good album, too. [00:53:43] Speaker C: Yeah, there was some good stuff. I mean, Frank gave it a bunch of tens. [00:53:47] Speaker D: Well, I think that's because it was his first time on the podcast. He was like tens on everything. [00:53:50] Speaker C: He was so excited. [00:53:51] Speaker D: I know. All right, so I want you to do your thing. [00:53:54] Speaker C: We are part of the Deep Dive Podcast Network and the Boneless Podcast Network. [00:53:59] Speaker D: Boneless, you know, like those chicken wings without the bone. [00:54:02] Speaker C: Like I always say, Great bunch of guys took us in right away. If you want individual podcasts about bands, you got Metallica, you got Megadeth, you got Judas Priest, Uriah Heap, Tom Petty, Rush. Like I said, you name it, it's probably on there. And Mark, where can they find us on the Interwebs? [00:54:17] Speaker D: Rock with that pod on all the social media. Rockwoodlabpodcast.com to the polls. Do the merch. You know what to do. Put us on your auto download, rate us five stars. Wherever you rate your podcasts next week, hopefully Frank will be here. We'll have him listen to side one, give us an opinion if he comes, and then we'll finish this thing out and see if Stephen is the guy in this whole record. [00:54:36] Speaker C: He's on the second side on the song. I looked ahead. I don't know what it sounds like, but he's there. [00:54:41] Speaker D: It sounds like he could be. [00:54:42] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:54:43] Speaker D: Is he the black widow? Is he this guy that's beating women up? [00:54:46] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:54:46] Speaker D: I don't know. Is it a person walking you to his nightmare? I don't know who the Steven guy is. [00:54:51] Speaker C: Curious. [00:54:51] Speaker D: Yeah. So far it's been cool. [00:54:53] Speaker C: Yeah, I agree. [00:54:53] Speaker D: All right, guys, we'll see you next week. Go. Later. [00:55:02] Speaker B: 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1, 0. Happy halloween.